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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WILL CALL THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER

[1. Call To Order]

[2. Roll Call]

10TH, 2018 TO ORDER. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

[3. Pledge of Allegiance]

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: HERE. WILL EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

[4.A. Ordinance No. 36-2018 Appropriation - Fire Station and Municipal Building Roof Projects]

PLEASE BE SEATED. WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON LEGISLATION.

4.A ORDINANCE NO 36-2018.

>> MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW IT'S NOT OUR CUSTOM TO PUT PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA BUT IF YOU RECALL WE HAD TO REBID THESE ROOF PROJECTS.

AND THEY ARE, BY THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. WHITE -- OUR SERVICE --

ENGINEER. >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON. AS MR. GREESON NOTED THIS IS A RESULT OF REBIDDING THAT THE ROOF'S PROJECT THAT IS FOR THIS BUILDING AND THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, THE FIRE STATION. WE DID ADD ONE COMPONENT TO THE BID.

RECOGNIZING THE SIDE ON THE DORMER AND COOPER BUILDING WERE IN VERY POOR SHAPE.

SO WE ADDED THOSE AND CAME OUT WITH SUCCESSFUL BIDDING NUMBERS AND ARE PROPOSING TO ADD TO THE PROJECT. THE TOTAL BID FOR THE FIRE HOUSE ABOUT $138,000 AND MUNICIPAL BUILDING $ -- THE SELECTED BIDDER WAS E. LEE CONSTRUCTION.

RECOMMEND HIRING THEM. THE PROJECT, NOT EXACTLY SURE WHEN THE PROJECT WILL BEGIN, WE NEED TO WORK OUT DETAILS FOR THOSE SORT OF ISSUES, MAY PUT IT OFF UNTIL EARLY IN THE SPRING SO THEY CAN GET BETTER WEATHER AND PROGRESS A LITTLE MORE EASILY WITH THAT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS I'M OFTEN ASKED ABOUT THE LIFE CYCLE OF THESE PROJECTS, THE ROOF ITSELF SHOULD HAVE ABOUT A 30-YEAR LIFE CYCLE. THE CEMENT BOARD HAS GOT A VERY LONG LIFE CYCLE, UPWARDS OF 50 YEARS. AND THAT WILL REPLACE ALL THE

WOOD SIDING AND DORMER SIDING ON THE FIRE HOUSE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ANSWERED TWO QUESTIONS I NORMALLY ASK.

SO WILL THIS THEN PREVENT ALL THE LEAKING AND WATER COMING INTO THE BUILDING CURRENTLY?

>> THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE PROJECT, CORRECT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. DOES IT INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL

INSULATION FOR THE ROOF? >> THERE IS NOT ANY INSULATION INCLUDED FOR THIS PROJECT, NO,

MA'AM. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY, I JUST HAD TO ASK.

THANK YOU. IT WILL BEGIN MAYBE IN EARLY SPRING AND WE WILL HAVE A 30-YEAR LIFE CYCLE, LIFE SPAN FOR IT. THANK YU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, ONE QUICK ONE.

THERE'S A

>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR FINAL SCHEDULE YET BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT

THREE MONTHS FOR BOTH PROJECTS. >> THE QUESTION IS PROMPTED BY DRIVING TO THE REC CENTER EVERY WEEK AND NOTICING, IS THAT PROJECT EXPECTED -- OKAY. I WON'T PRESS, I JUST WONDERED

IF WE HAD AN END DATE THERE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MR. FOUST MOVES WE REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. SECOND BY MR. SMITH.

ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT REMOVING IT FROM THE TABLE? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN. IT'S REMOVED FROM THE TABLE.

MR. MYERS MOVES THAT WE AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATION $483,000 AND

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AWARDING IT TO E. LEE CONSTRUCTION. SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS? IF NOT, MS. THRESS CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THIS ORDINANCE. FIRST, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

NOW THE ORDINANCE IS AMENDED. MS. THRESS, THE AMENDED ORDINANCE.

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[5.B. Regulation of Massage Establishments]

NEITHER ARE FOR COUNCIL ACTION TONIGHT. THEY ARE JUST FOR DISCUSSION POLICY ISSUES THAT WE'VE DONE SOME WORK ON, THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND HAVE SOME FEEDBACK BACK FROM YOU, ABOUT IS THE REGULATION OF MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS.

YOU KNOW FROM A MEMORANDUM I WROTE YOU RECENTLY THIS IS A CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY WISHING TO REGULATE THE ACTIVITIES OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. LINDSEY WHO WILL GO OER THE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.

AND WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU FURTHER AT YOUR PLEASURE.

>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER GREESON. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THE ORDINANCES WE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET INCLUDED ONE PASSED BY THE CITY OF WESTERVILLE, AS WELL AS ONE BY THE CITY OF COLUMBUS.

THERE'S ONE PRINCIPLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO VERSIONS.

-MADE THE DECISION TO PROHIBIT WHAT IS GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS RELAXATION MASSAGES.

RELAXATION MASSAGES NOT BEING THERAPEUTIC MASSAGES AND ARE THEREFORE BY DEFINITION ARE MASSAGES -- YOU ARE LICENSE TODAY PROVIDE UNDER VARIETY OF CATEGORIES, THROUGH MEDICAL, THROUGH THE CHIROPRACTIC BOARD. YOU COULD ALSO BE LICENSED TO PROVIDE MASSAGES IN CONNECTION WITH COSMETOLOGY, WITH BARBER AND SALONS. SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS UNDER STATE LAW THAT YOU CAN BE LICENSED AND THERE'S A REGISTRATION AND LICENSING PROCESS FOR THOSE. THE CITY AT THE TIME THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THIS, ATUALLY IMPOSED A MORATORIUM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME SO THEY COULD INVESTIGATE IT FURTHER.

THEY HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE TRAFFICKING TRADE. AND THEY DID NOT WANT ANY, AT THAT TIME THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY RELAXATION MASSAGES THEY WERE AWARE OF. DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY STUDIED THIS. THEY COMPLETED THEIR STUDY, THEY MADE THE DECISION, THEIR COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO PROHIBIT ALL FORMS OF RELAXATION MASSAGE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS TEY HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNED A MASSAGE PARLOR, ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THAT PARLOR WERE LICENSED WITH THE STATE EXCEPT FOR THE OWNER.

AND SO THE OWNER WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS GOING TO BE IMPACTED.

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO DO THAT. THE COLUMBUS MODEL TAKES THE APPROACH OF NOT PROHIBITING RELAXATION MASSAGES BUT LIE SENSING THEM AND REGULATING THEM. SO THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES AN EXCEPTION FOR ANY OF THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS OR ANY OF THE MASSAGE THERAPISTS WHO ARE LICENSED BY THE STATE.

SO IT'S FOCUS ONLY ON THOSE UNLICENSED BY THE STATE AND THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO REGISTER, OBTAIN A LICENSE AS PART OF THAT LICENSING PROCESS. ACQUIRING INFORMATION ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS EMPLOYED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT.

SO THE PRINCIPLE POLICY QUESTION, ADOPTING ANY FORM OF

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RELAXATION MASSAGE PARLORS. SECONDLY, WHETHER TO PROHIBIT THE RELAXATION MASSAGES OR WHETHER TO PERMIT THEM BUT RANK

THEM THROUGH A LICENSING SCHEME. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO THEY DEFINE IT AS RELAXATION MASSAGES?

>> THEY DON'T, I THINK THE STATE HAS A DEFINITION WHAT CONSTITUTES THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE FOR PURPOSES OF STATE LICENSES.

BUT THEY ALL DEFINE MASSAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF RUBBING, TOUCHING, PRESSURE, OTHER, APPLIED TO THE BODY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A MAIN COMPANY LIKE MASSAGE ENVY OFFERS RELAXATION MASSAGE.

THAT HAS ME A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THAT'S A COMPANY

EVERYONE HAS TO BE LICENSED. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT, ALL THEIR PEOPLE ARE LICENSED, EVEN THOUGH TEY MIGHT REFER TO, THAT'S WHY I SAY RELAXATION IS MORE OF A GENERIC TERM BETWEEN THE SORT OF THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE AND OTHER FORMS OF MASSAGE THAT AREN'T.

PROBABLY UNDER A STATE LICENSE MASSAGES AND NON STATE LICENSED MASSAGES. THAT MIGHT BE AN EASIER WAY TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS CERTAINLY FROM A REGULATION OR ENFORCEMENT OR CONCERN OF TRAFFICKING AND OTHER THINGS, THAT ARE OTHER TOOLS IN OUR TOOL BAG, IN A LITTLE BIT I WILL ASK CHIEF STRAIT TO DESCRIBE THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, ONGOING EFFORTS OF THE TASK FORCE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, CITY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE PURSUING NUISANCE ACTIONS WHEN THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THAT PROSTITUTION ACTIVITY IS OCCURRING IN A GIVEN ESTABLISHMENT. THAT REQUIRES UNDERCOVER OFFICERS TO GO IN, TO OBTAIN THAT EVIDENCE, TO DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT IS A CIVIL NUISANCE ACTION.

FINAL COURT AND THE RESULTS, YOU COULD HAVE CLOSURE OF THE BUSINESS FOR UP TO A YEAR. SO THAT'S AN OPTION.

THAT YOU CAN PERMANENTLY INSTITUTE WITH THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, MAKING SOMETHING ALREADY ILLEGAL ILLEGAL UNDER THE ORDER OF THE COURT AND THEREFORE SUBJECT TO CONTEMPTIVE TOOL. WE DO HAVE, WORKING WITH THE COLUMBUS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW THAT APPROACH, I WE CHOOSE TO, ASSUMING WE WOULD HAVE THE NECESSARY EVIDENCE TO MAKE THAT CASE, FRANKLY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT TASK FORCE AND IN GENERAL HAVE PROVIDED THEIR UNDERCOVER AGENTS IN THOSE INSTANCES. WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL

TURNOVER -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: JUST SO, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS ADDRESSES HUMAN TRAFFICKING? SO WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A PERSON WHO WORKS THERE, HOW IS THIS ADDRESSING HUMAN TRAFFICKING?

>> THE ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE REGULATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THE REQUIREMENT OF PHOTOS AND INFORMATION AS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS, THEN PROVIDE YOU THE BASIS IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT REGISTERED.

SO IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAY.

FOR THE MOST PRT, AND I WON'T SAY EXCLUSIVELY, I DON'T KNOW IT TO BE TRUE OR NOT. FOR THE MOST PART, THE TRAFFICKING ACTIVITY IS MORE OFTEN FOUND IN THOSE UNLICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS. AND WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF BEING LICENSED ARE DOING S FOR A LEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESS, NOT FOR PROSTITUTION ACTIVITIES, ANY ILLEGAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY OR CONDUCT GOING ON IN SOME INSTANCES.

SO FOR THE TRAFFICKERS, IT IS LIMITING THE LOCATIONS IN WICH IT CAN OCCUR. THIS DOES NOT, OF ITSELF, ADDRESS TRAFFICKING, BUT IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR TRAFFICKING TO OCCUR IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

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AND CITIES HAVE ALL BEGUN TO IMPLEMENT THESE, THEN THESE BUSINESSES LOOK TO GO ELSEWHERE AND SO ONE THOUGHT, ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD, IT'S NO EASIER TO DO THAT ACTIVITY HERE THAN

IT WOULD BE -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SO ON PAPER, WE WOULD HAVE LICENSES OF PEOPLE, BUT WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHO IS ACTUALLY PERFORMING WHAT SERVICES, UNLESS WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING IN ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY, YES, WE CAN MATCH UP PAPER AND PAPER, BUT UNLESS YOU ARE ACTUALLY IN THAT ESTABLISHMENT SEEING IT, WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> CORRECT. AND THAT WOULD BE TRUE OF BOTH LICENSED OR UNLICENSED FACILITIES, THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE TRUE FOR ANY LOCATION WHERE THAT ACTIVITY IS GOING ON.

UNTIL YOU EITHER RECEIVE TIPS OR HAVE UNDERCOVER AGENDAS INVOLVED, YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN ANY OF THE

ESTABLISHMENTS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO MATCH UP PEOPLE IF WE SAID EACH PERSON PROVIDING SERVICES HAD TO HAVE THIS PAPERWORK ON THEM?

>> RIGHT. IT'S EASIER TO MOVE THE TRAFFICKING VICTIMS FROM LOCATION TO LOCATION IF THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY WHO IS OR ISN'T WORKING AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT, BASED ON THE REGISTRATION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES, BUT THAT ENFORCEMENT, THEN

WOULD WE SWITCH OVER? >> YEAH.

SO WE ARE ABOUT TO SWITCH OVER. THE LAST POINT I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE BFORE SWITCHING OVER TO CHIEF STRAIT IS WHILE THESE ARE SET UP REGULATORY LICENSING SORT OF ORDINANCE, THERE'S ALSO A ZONING COMPONENT THAT IS IN MID ORDINANCES BY WHERE THIS ACTIVITY COULD BE LOCATED SO FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, IN FACT THE CITY OF GAHAN, AT LEAST BY MY REVIEW OF THEIR ORDINANCES EXCLUSIVELY DEALS WITH THE ISSUE BASED ON A CONDITIONAL USE ZONING OF MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS AS TO LICENSED ESTABLISHMENTS AND MASSAGE THERAPISTS.

SO THAT IS HOW THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO ADDRESS IT AND HAVE A SEPARATE STAND ALONE LICENSING ORDINANCE.

SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO ADD THAT.

THE YEARS THEY HAVE OR HAVEN'T ADDRESSED ISSUES TO RELOCATE AND HOW IT FALLS UNDER OUR ZONING CODE, NOT THAT I TOLD HIM HE WAS GOING TO HAVE THAT ACTIVITY, BUT HE WILL KNOW IT BECAUSE HE HAS TOLD ME BEFORE. CHIEF STRAIT WHO WE HAVE TALKED TO, HE WILL HAVE SOME EXPLANATION AS TO THE

ENFORCEMENT. >> ON OUR ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WE GET YOUR PHONE CALLS, WE GET YOUR CONSTITUENTS PHONE CALLS FREQUENTLY AS TO THESE ARE TAKING PLACE, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT. WE SEND INVESTIGATORS IN, WE USE OUTSIDE RESOURCES WITH THE CENTRAL OHIO HUMAN TASK FORCE, OR TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE. WE HAVE USED THEM.

THIS TIME THE F.B.I. WAS INVOLVED.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST A LOCAL ISSUE, THIS IS A FEDERAL AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THE LAST TIME WE HAD 1,000 HIGH, THAT NETWORK ACTUALLY TIED BACK TO LOS ANGELES AND ALSO TIED BACK TO NEW YORK. SO, AGAIN, WE ARE COMPETING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS.

AND AS DIRECTOR LINDSEY SAID, WE'VE GOT THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY ARE BRINGING THESE LADIES IN, THEY HOUSE THEM IN THE LOCATION -- THEY ARE BATHING, THEY ARE EATING. IF WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING SOME SORT OF LICENSING PROCESS, IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHO IS IN THERE. AND IF THEY ARE ROTATING, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO TRACK THESE INDIVIDUALS.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A FEDERAL DATABASE TO TRACK THESE PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. BUT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THEY ARE ROTATING THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY STRUCTURED IN DIFFERENT TIERS, AS TO WHAT BUSINESSES THEY ARE GOING TO. SO IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT OPERATION TO DEAL WITH. WE BECAME AWARE O THIS ONE FROM DIRECTOR LEE'S NETWORK IN THE ZONING OFFICE THAT THIS NEW ESTABLISHMENT WAS GOING IN JUNE. SO WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS SINCE JUNE TO FOLLOW IT. SO, AGAIN, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF DETECTIVES AND YOU KNOW MY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW WITH REGARDS TO PERSONNEL. WE ARE DOING MULTIPLE THINGS WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE DID BRING IN SOME GREAT

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PARTNERS ON THIS ONE. AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE ARE DEALING WITH TOO, WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, IS WE ARE NOT GOING AFTER THE LADIES WHO ARE PARTICIPATING.

WE DON'T WANT TO REVICTIMIZED THE VICTIMS ALREADY BING BASICALLY SLAVES TO THESE LOCATIONS.

SO, IT LEADS US TO TRY TO BACKTRACK TO EITHER THE JOHNS, OR TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOUSING THESE FOLKS.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A CRIMINAL CASE WHEN YOU HAVE JUST THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS, THE LADIES, AND YOU ARE TRYING TO BACKTRACK TO THE MAMASANS OR IT'S INDIVIDUAL WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE PREMISES OR THE BUSINESS.

MOST OF THESE ARE A CASH BUSINESS, SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A TRACKING SYSTEM, FOR OUR WHITE COLLAR INVESTIGATORS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO TRACK CASH.

THEY AREN'T REPORTING TAXES. SO THAT DOES GIVE US SOME VENTURE ON THE TAX SIDE WITH STATE LEVEL AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

WE BROUGHT BOTH IN THIS TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

AGAIN, IT'S A CHALLENGING OPERATION TO TRY TO FIND THESE PEOPLE AND PIN THEM. I THINK BY HAVING AN ORDINANCE WHERE WE ARE LICENSING INDIVIDUALS WE ARE MAKING THEM SHOW THEY ARE STATE LICENSED. OR IF THEY ARE NT, WHERE THEY ARE FROM. AT LEAST WE COULD HAVE SOME IDEA WHO IS WORKING IN THESE BUSINESSES.

AND YOU ARE CORRECT, MS. DOROTHY, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO SOME INSPECTIONS. WE CAN'T DO IT AT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE BECAUSE WE ARE ON A DIFFERENT ELEMENT BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHO IS WORKING IN THOSE FACILITIES SO WE COULD HOPEFULLY STOP SOME OF THIS, ON THE CIVIL SIDE.

SO I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OUR CASE IS STILL ONGOING. IT WAS A SOFT ENTRY AT WINWORTH'S ASIAN SPA, WE HAD THE NECESSARY ELEMENTS TO GET A WARRANT. WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE GOT IN QUICKLY AND QUICKLY GOT THE TWO VICTIMS OUT.

WE PASSED THEM TO THE SALVATION ARMY.

THEY HAD INTERPRETERS FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

BUT, THIS CRIME IS STILL ONGOING AND I AM HOPING WE CAN GET SOME CHARGES. LAST TIME AT 1,000 HIGH WE CHARGED A GROUP WE LEAD BACK TO L.A.

WE NEVER DID GET THE NEW YORK CONNECTION BECAUSE POPLE WERE WITH ANOTHER AGENCY IN LOS ANGELES CONNECTED AND CHARGED.

SO GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

>> HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER INCIDENTS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU

MENTIONED? >> THERE ARE OTHERS AROUND THE CITY IN CENTRAL OHIO THAT WE ARE AWARE OF BUT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY OTHER. THE THOUSAND HIGH WAS THE FIRST ONE WE DID, AND THEN WE -- ACTUALLY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL START-UPS SINCE WE STARTED THIS INVESTIGATION.

BUT THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO FOR WORTHINGTON THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY MADE CHARGES FOR ENTRY ON.

>> GOING BACK TO THE INVESTIGATION, DO WE KNOW HOW THIS WILL IMPACT EXISTING BUSINESSES, HOW MANY BUSINESSES

MIGHT BE IMPACTED BY -- >> WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE AN INDICATION THAT MIGHT BE OFFERING THIS. SO SHORT OF KIND OF A PHONE, WE DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO KNOW. UNLESS THEY HAVE HAD TO COME IN FOR SOME FORM OF APPROVAL IN WHICH THEY INDICATED THE NATURE OF THEIR BUSINESS AND DIRECTOR BROWN MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK TO HOW MANY OF THOSE WE HAVE OR HAVEN'T SEEN OVER THE YEARS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS OF STAFF BUSINESSES, WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SOMETHING LESS THAN 10 AND MAYBE ONLY IN THE 5-6 RANGE.

LICENSED PRACTITIONERS. >> TO ADD ONTO MR. LINDSEY'S COMMENTS, AT LEAST CURRENTLY IN THE OFFICE YOU ARE REQUIRED A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY, IF A TENANT MOVES OUT AND A NEW TENANT MOVES IN, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO WORK WITH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY PERMIT.

AND WE USUALLY COORDINATE WITH CHIEF'S DEPARTMENT ON THAT ALSO.

TYPICALLY IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WE DO ALLOW FOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TERM YOU USED.

THE CERTIFIED, OR YOUR LICENSED MASSAGE.

IF YOU ARE NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE, WE DO ASK IT TO BE AS A

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CONDITIONAL USE IN THE DISTRICT AND THE CONDITIONAL USE GOES BEFORE A MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

SO WE DO HAVE RECORDS OF THOSE THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE A MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION, OR IF THEY APPLY FOR A CHANGE IN OCCUPANCY. AGAIN USUALLY SOME OF OUR CHANGE IN OCCUPANCY, YOU DON'T CATCH THEM UNTIL THEY DO THEIR YEARLY FIRE INSPECTION AND WE WILL GET A CALL SAYING HEY DID YOU KNOW THIS BUSINESS WAS IN THERE AND WE WILL GO THAT DIRECTION. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE WHO RECEIVED AN ACTUAL CONDITIONAL USE IF THEY HAVE

GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CHIEF STRAIT. I'M LOOKING AT THE SANDARDS FROM COLUMBUS AND HILLIARD, INCLUDES PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION, PHOTOGRAPHS, CERTIFIED COPY OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE, CURRENT CRIMINAL HISTORY, FINGERPRINTS. BASED ON YOUR SAMPLING OF THESE COUPLE EXPERIENCES HAD WE HAD A PROCESS LIKE THAT IN PLACE, WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENT TO PREEMPT THE HUMAN

TRAFFICKING COMPONENT? >> I BELIEVE, MY PERSONAL BELIEF, UNFORTUNATELY THE OWNERS DON'T WANT THEIR SLAVES TO BE KNOWN, SO THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM TOTALLY REMOTE.

I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US, AT LEAST OUR AGENCY AND LONG TERM IT HOPEFULLY IT WOULD HAVE BENEFITED THESE LADIES BY NOT

HAVING TO BE SUBJECTED TO THIS. >> DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE.

YOU PUT THESE MEASURES IN PLACE, IN SOME WAYS COULD THIS JUST BE MOVING THE SAME TRAFFICKING PROBLEM FROM WORTHINGTON TO SOMEWHERE ELSE OUTSIDE WORTHINGTON THAT DOESN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF REGULATION?

>> YES. I CAN STILL SEE, AND YOU KNOW WITH PROSTITUTION, MANY OF THE LOCAL HOUSES OF PROSTITUTION WOULD MOVE TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS TO TRY TO AVOID MUNICIPAL POLICING DISTRICTS. SO THEY WOULD GET SOMEWHERE QUIET WHERE HOPEFULLY NO ONE WOULD SAY ANYTHING.

SO YES, I COULD SEE THIS PUSHED TO ANOTHER DISTRICT OR CITY THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE THESE ORDINANCES IN PLACE.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE INCLUSIVE AT THE STATE THAT WE CAN ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND KEEP TRACK OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TO PUT A STOP TO THIS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MASSAGE PLACES ARE SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE I THAT ORDINANCE TO SUGGEST TO KEEP OPPORTUNITIES OPEN TO WORK WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES?

>> W CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP ON THAT LEVEL, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT.

>> IAM NOT AWARE OF ANY -- CHALLENGE TO THE ORDINANCES.

JUST REGULATORY. SO I DON'T KNOW OF IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T.

>> I HAVE TO BE VRY CAREFUL HOW I -- THIS.

I DON'T FREQUENT DAY SPAS. MAYBE THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO DO. DO WE KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE? IF I GO TO A FULL SERVICE DAY SPA AND COULD GET MY HAIRCUT, I COULD GET NAILS, GET A MASSAGE, ARE THOSE ALWAYS PERFORMED BY LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPISTS?

DO WE KNOW? >> I DO NOT KNOW.

AND OPENED IT SOMEWHERE IN WORTHINGTON, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD THEN SHUT THAT BUSINESS DOWN?

>> AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE ONE IN WESTERVILLE WAS A MASSAGE ENVY, BUT I KNOW THE ONE WHERE THE OWNER WASN'T LICENSED BUT ALL THE WORKERS WERE LICENSED.

AND IN THAT INSTANCE, MY UNDERSTANDING UNDER THE WESTVILLE CODE, THE BUSINESS WAS GOING TO REMAIN.

THE OWNER WAS SIMPLY GOING TO STOP PERFORMING ANY MASSAGES AND/OR GET LICENSED HIMSELF OR HERSELF.

>> FRANCHISE I HAVE INVESTED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN AND

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BUILT UP MY GOOD -- AND THIS ORDINANCE COMES ALONG DO I HAVE A TAKINGS ACTION? THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION AND THAT'S WHERE I COULD PERCEIVE IT BEING CHALLENGED.

WHILE THERE'S NO QUESTION GIVEN THE TWO INSTANCES WE HAVE HAD, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT WE NEED TO TAKE SOME STEPS TO PREVENT TRAFFICKING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NETTED -- THAT WE ALSO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS AND I AM THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE MASSAGE ENVY SPAS AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY OPERATE TO KNOW. SO I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON THIS UNTIL I HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. BECAUSE NOT ALL NON-THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE OPERATIONS ARE -- BUT WE ARE PAINTING ALL NON-THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE PARLORS WITH THE SAME BRUSH IF WE ARE

TOO BROAD IN OUR REGULATION. >> YES, AND CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THERE AND CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ONE, MAKE FURTHER INQUIRY AS TO ANY CHALLENGES OF THESE ORDINANCES

LOCAL STATE. >> I WOULD ALSO SAY COULD WE CALL MASSAGE ENVY'S HEADQUARTERS AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER BIG CHAIN DAY SPAS AROUND HERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE. >> RIGHT, AND HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING THEIR LICENSE, DON'T THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROBATIONARY PERIOD. ISN'T THERE SOME SORT OF

APPRENTICESHIP? >> I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I WILL ASK, I WILL ASSUME THAT COLUMBUS SINCE THEY ARE THE FORERUNNER AND THE BIG PLAYER, I'M ASSUMING THEY HAVE APPROACHED THE MEDICAL BOARD.

TO GET THE MEDICAL BOARD'S FEEDBACK.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A JOINT REGULATORY -- BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY REGULATED BY THE MEDICAL BOARD.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHY MOST OF THESE ORDINANCES TO ONLY APPLY

TO THE UNLICENSED ACTIVITY. >> WE ARE REQUIRING A LICENSE.

>> WE ARE REQUIRING A LICENSE. IN SOME INSTANCES ONLY REQUIRING THE LICENSE OF AN UNLICENSED BUSINESS OR UNLICENSED MASSEUSE, SO NOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING I LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD, THEREFORE ALL PEOPLE WHO DO MASSAGES EITHER HAVE TO HAVE A STATE LICENSE IF THEY QUALIFY UNDER STATE LICENSE OR HAVE ONE OF YOUR LOCAL LICENSES.

>> THAT'S WHY I WONDER. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN W AREN'T RUNNING AFOUL OF THE MEDICAL BOARD'S SCHEME, WE ARE GRANTING A LESSER LICENSE TO A LESSER INDIVIDUAL.

AND THAT'S BEGINNING TO SCREAM TO ME OF STATE-WIDE CONCERN, ALMOST. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STATE WIDE PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

ONCE WE REACH CRITICAL MASS THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING. BUT WE HAVE TO REACH CRITICAL MASS FIRST. MY CONCERN HERE, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE INDUSTRY WORKS. I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE THE MASSAGE ENVIS. THEY ARE A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.

IF ALL THEIR MASSEUSES ARE LICENSED, NO PROBLEM.

IF ALL OF THE MASSEUSES AT MCKENNIS, FINE.

>> ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE COPIES OF LICENSES OR A FORM SAYING ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE LICENSED? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO IS LICENSED AND WHO ISN'T? IF YOU DON'T REQUIRE LICENSING. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, MASSAGE ENVY OR MCKENNIS OR OTHERS HAVE LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPISTS. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THEM DO SOME REPORTING OR EVERYONE IN THE MASSAGE COMMUNITY HAVE TO REPORT? THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES.

>> IT COULD BE AN INFORMATIONAL RECORDING TO VERIFY THEY ARE LICENSED UNDER STATE LICENSING, SO THAT COULD BE AN ELEMENT ALSO BY DEFINITION WE ARE ONLY REQUIRING IT TO THOSE WHO AREN'T LICENSED AND THEREFORE THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE LICENSED ACTIVITIES WOULD STILL FALL UNDER STATE LAW WHICH ALREADY REQUIRES IF YOU ARE DOING THERAPEUTIC MASSAGING, YOU NEED A LICENSE AND YOU GET A LICENSE IF YOU FALL UNDER ONE OF THE

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VARIOUS LICENSING OR EXCEPTIONS. WE WILL DO RESEARCH AS TO THE INDUSTRY. THE CONCERN ABOUT NOT PUTTING LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES OUT. CERTAINLY NOT THE SUGGESTION THAT ALL NON-LICENSED MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS ARE ENGAGING.

I THINK IN THE CASE OF WESTERERVILLE.

-- WESTERVILLE, TALKING TO THEIR CITY ATTORNEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, THEREFORE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COMPLETE PROHIBITION OF UNLICENSED MASSAGES IN THE CITY. AND SO THEREFORE NOT FORECLOSING THE ABILITY, YOU JUST REQUIRE PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH STATE LICENSING. LOOK INTO OTHER BUSINESSES, THE

MCKINNIS. >> LICENSE TO ADMINISTER NON THERAPEUTIC MASSAGES IF THEY HAD A LICENSE GRANTED BY COLUMBUS?

WESTERVILLE DOESN'T HAVE THAT? >> CORRECT.

>> ALL WE REQUIRE FOR LOCAL LICENSE IS IDENTIFICATION AND BACKGROUND CHECK, ESSENTIALLY. SO THERE'S NO STANDARD PRACTICE.

THERE'S NO MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.

IT'S NOT A MORE TRADITIONAL LICENSE AS WE WOULD THINK OF IN

A REGULATORY CONTEXT. >> IN TERMS OF TRAINING OR EXPERTISE, TESTING OF THOSE SKILLS THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY OF THAT, IT'S A REGISTRATION OF THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR

CLEANLINESS. >> MY PEFERENCE WOULD BE TO CALL IT A REGISTRATION. CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

BECAUSE WHEN I THINK OF LICENSE, I THINK OF DUE PROCESS RIGHTS THAT COME WITH LICENSES. IT'S WHERE I LIVE.

BUT TO ME IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH A LICENSE AS IT IS A

REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT. >> I SEE NO NEED TO DEBATE YOU

ABOUT IT. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

MORE BLUNTLY, MR. LINDSEY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.

IS THERE A GENERAL CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME TYPE OF REGISTRATION OR SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE ON THIS TOPIC? IS THERE A GENERAL CONSENSUS? IF W ARE GOING TO HAVE STAFF PUT FORWARD THIS IS A TOPIC WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE ADDRESSING?

>> I THINK SO. >> THE TWO CASES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING THAT HAVE BEEN CAUGHT, I WOULDN'T DOUBT WE HAVE MORE WITHIN THE CITY SO I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO AND HOPE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WORKS.

>> I AGREE. COUNCILMEMBER MYERS HAS IDENTIFIED INFORMATION FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO COMING FORWARD?

>> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT JUST A SMALL SAMPLING WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN COLUMBUS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD START BUT IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF NATIONAL BOARD OR SOME WAY OF LOOKING OUTSIDE COLUMBUS AND MAYBE EVEN OUTSIDE OF OHIO. WHAT'S THE TREND IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES AND STATES DOING. I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE IT A BIGGER PROJECT THAN IT ALREADY IS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO

KNOW OUTSIDE OF COLUMBUS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I AGREE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S USEFUL WE CAN FIND OUT ABOUT, THAT WOULD

BE AWESOME. >> SOURCE. ROUTE 50.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE TASK FORCE? >> THE TASK FORCE HAS WORKED

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HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE

AFFILIATION. >> THAT'S A

JURISDICTION. >> THE F.B.I. IS ASSISTING WITH THIS AND I KNOW THEY BRING IN TRANSLATORS.

THE THOUSAND HIGH-END. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD AND MAYBE DOING SOME REVISIONS AND COMING FORWARD, MAYBE A REGISTRATION THING, RIGHT?

>> DON'T USE THAT WORD, OKAY, PLEASE.

LET'S JUST DROP THAT WORD FROM THE VOCABULARY RIGHT NOW UNTIL MR. LINDSEY AND I CAN HAVE AN "OFF THE RECORD" DISCUSSION.

WHICH COULD GO LONG INTO THE NIGHT.

[5.C. Transmittal of Proposed Carryover Fund Balance Policy and Investment Policy]

SIR. WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE

CARRY-OVER FUND BALANCE. >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR FINANCE STAFF ABLY LEAD HAS BEEN CONDUCTING REVIEWS AND UPDATES OF OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES. EARLIER THIS YEAR YOU ADOPTED A REVISED, OR NEW DEBT POLICY AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING MORE RECENTLY ON DRAFTING AN UPDATED INVESTMENT POLICY AND AN UPDATED CARRYOVER FUND BALANCE POLICY FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

THESE ARE IMPORTANT POLICIES IN THE LIFE -- THE POLICY TYPICALLY HAS BEEN AN ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION.

YOU SEE IT AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR.

WE WANTED TO MOVE IT INTO A COUNCIL-ADOPTED POLICY AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GOT THOROUGH REVIEW.

MR. BARTER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT. AND OF COURSE OUR GENERAL FUND CARRYOVER FND BALANCE OF DISCUSSION, OUR POLICY THERE REQUIRES THAT WE UPDATE IT OR REVIEW IT 2019 IS THAT FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME BUT GIVEN THE DISCUSSION OF THE FUND BALANCE MORE RECENTLY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD B GOOD TO UPDATE IT FR THIS BUDGET CYCLE. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SHARING IT WITH YOU, PUTTING IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN SHARING ON THESE POLICY DRAFTS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS OVERVIEW IT BRIEFLY, SHARE WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE AND THEN HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS. AN ATTEMPT TO COMPREHENSIVELY ANSWER THOSE, CONSIDER THE FEEDBACK AD LATER ONCE WE HAVE COLLECTED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, COLLECTED THE FEEDBACK AND THOUGHT ABOUT IT BRING FORWARD ANY REVISED PROPOSALS WE MAY HAVE REGARDING IT.

SO THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.

IN OUR MIND WE WOULD LIKE UPDATED POLICIES IN THESE AREAS PROBABLY LATER THIS FALL WITH THE BUDGET.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. BARTER AND HE WILL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON WHAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS IS A COOKIE-CUTTER POLICY, SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS POLICY LAST UPDATED IN 1997. THE CHANGE HERE IS THAT WE ARE REFERENCING THE OHIO CODE SECTION 135 AS OPPOSED TO COPYING AND PASTING THE LANGUAGE INTO THE POLICY.

THIS CREATES AN -- EFFECT SO IF THEY CHANGE THE OHIO REVISED CODE. SHORT OF THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THE INVESTMENT POLICY.

IT'S THERE FOR YOU TO READ AND FEEL FEE TO EMAIL ME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON IT. THE CARRY-OVER FUND BALANCE POLICY, THAT ALSO HAS SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.

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OTHER TRIPLE-A RATED CITIES WERE DOING, WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD SUSTAIN. WE LOKED AT OUR REVENUE SOURCES AND SUSCEPTIBILITY TO ECONOMIC FLUCTUATION.

WHAT I AM PRESENTING INITIALLY POLICY WITH RANGES FROM 35-50% IS THE RANGE WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR A FUND BALANCE.

WE INCLUDE TRANSFER MECHANISM, THAT I STOLE FROM THE CITY OF DUBLIN. YOUR AMOUNT OVER 50%, 50% OF THAT GETS TRANSFERRED INTO THE C.I.P.

IT WOULD BE UP TO YOUR APPROPRIATION OF THAT TRANSFER.

WE ALSO INCLUDED STEPS WE COULD TAKE IF THE FUND BALANCE FELL BELOW DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS, BELOW 55% WE LAID OUT SOME STEPS BELOW 25%, WE LAID OUT STEPS AND BELOW 15% WE HAVE LAID OUT SOME STEPS. WE ARE CALLING THIS THE FINANCIAL INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE DEBT GENERAL FUND RESERVE POLICY. WE ARE ALSO USING THE CASH BALANCE TO AN UNENCUMBERED BALANCE.

THE UNENCUMBERED BALANCE IS AN AMOUNT, THAT IS COMMIT TODAY BE PAID SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE CALCULATION OF THE FUND BALANCE.

THOSE ARE KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

AGAIN, ALL OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU, ESPECIALLY MY MEMOS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE ALREADY GOT QUITE A FEW, WE WILL CONSOLIDATE THOSE

AND GET THEM BACK OUT TO YOU. >>

>> WE ARE ABOUT 56% OF PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES AS OF AUGUST 31ST. IT'S TOUGH TO LOOK AT THAT ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS BECAUSE AUGUST IS A LITTLE BIT, WE RECEIVED THE SECOND HALF PROPERTY TAX DISTRIBUTION.

SO ONCE THAT RUNS OUT OVER THE REST OF THE YEAR IT WILL PROBABLY END UP BEING A LITTLE LOWER BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE GIVE OR TAKE ABOUT $9.5 MILLION OVER THE FLOOR.

>> YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THE DETERMINATION?

>> THAT DATE EVERY YEAR SO WE HAD A CONSISTENT BENCHMARK?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HOW THIS WOULD WORK. IF WE ENDED UP OVER THE 50%, IF THAT'S WHAT WE END UP WITH, WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE THAT TRANSFER.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHATEVER IS OVER THE 50%?

>> 50%. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FROM PREVIOUS YEARS TO INCREASE OUR FUND BALANCE.

BEEN THERE. BEEN THERE.

>> BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS POLICY WHICH WOULD KEEP US FROM A DEFICIT OPERATING BUDGET, IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR?

>> THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD GET THERE.

YOU WOULD SPEND MORE THAN WHAT COMES IN.

>> I AM ASSUMING THAT JUST BASED UPON YOUR ADVICE, YOUR COUNSEL AND YOUR REVIEW, PROJECT THAT OUT AND HOPEFULLY

CERTAINLY IN 2010 WE KNEW? >> IT IS.

AND OF COURSE WE DO THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. THAT WOULD IDENTIFY ANY FORTHCOMING ISSUES. BUT ONE OF THEM YOU KNOW YEAR TO YEAR WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OUR INCOME TAX REVENUE, SINCE THAT IS 74% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE AND 13% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE YEAR TO YEAR WE CAN PROJECT BUT WE DON'T KNOW

FOR CERTAIN. >> I AM MY OWN FIDUCIARY SO I GET TO MONKEY WITH MY BOOKS ANYWAY I WANT TO BUT LET'S ASSUME WE HAVE A STRING OF 3-4 YEARS A RW WE ARE TRANSFERRING

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MONEY INTO THE C.I.P. BUT WE ARE DOING THAT WITH AN EYE TOWARD SOME GOAL IN THE FUTURE.

THAT WE, LET'S SAY, GIVEN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT WE WANT TO BUILD MORE BYPASS. THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO TAKE THAT EXTRA AND SEGREGATE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE EVEN IF WE DIDN'T

SPEND IT THAT YEAR, CORRECT? >> THERE WOULD BE A WAY, YES.

LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE, I PUT THIS IN THE POLICY.

WE HAVE AN UPCOMING 27TH PAY, IN WHICH CASE IT'S GOING TO SPIKE OUR PAYROLL. WE SPENT ABOUT $550,000 EACH PAYROLL. NORMALLY 26.

EVERY 11 YEARS THERE'S 27. I WOULD LIKE A SPARATE SUB FUND OF THE GENERAL FUND WHICH 1/11TH OF PAYROLL GES INTO SO WHEN HE ARE SAVING THAT FOR A TIME WHEN THE 27TH PAY COMES IN.

THEORETICALLY WE CREATE A SEPARATE FUND ONLY FOR THE DESIGNATED PURPOSE AS THE COUNCIL DECIDES.

WE HAVE THAT WITH THE C.I.P. AND THE THOUGHT, I THINK WOULD JUST BE, YOU WOULDN'T SPEND IT UNTIL YOU GOT TO THE AMOUNT

THAT YOU NEEDED. >> WE HAD THAT IN THE PAST IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT MOST OF US COULD NEVER GET OUR HEADS AROUND EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.

IT DROVE DR. SHOESY OFF COUNCIL. I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF SAVING -- MECHANISM, WHETHER WE MOVE IT INTO THE C.I.P., KEEP IT IN THE GENERAL FUND, IN THE FUND BALANCE.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT WE COULD SAVE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. WHICH IS TYPICALLY ONE-TIME

EXPENDITURES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE ALWAYS TRANSFERRING 50% TO THE C.I.P.

>> I DON'T TINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ISN'T SOMEONE WHO HAS GONE THROUGH IT ALL, SO TO SPEAK, DIDN'T EVEN DISCUSS ABOUT FUND BALANCE BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH FUND BALANCE, WE DIDN'T EVEN DISCUSS THAT WE EVEN LOWERED PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE WE HAD SO MUCH FUND BALANCE COMING IN, WE HAD SO MUCH LEFT OVER EACH YEAR.

GOING INTO THE RECESSION, GOING THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT, THE ESTABLISHING A DECENT FUND BALANCE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITY. HAVING GONE THROUGH IT ALL, ON THE CAUTIOUS SIDE OF WHAT WE DO, ENSURING WE HAVE THE FUND BALANCE, IF WE HAVEN'T AN EXCESSIVE FUND BALANCE WE COULD ALWAYS SPEND THE MONEY BUT SINCE WE DO HAVE SUCH A VOLATILE BACKGROUND AND FINANCES, IT'S VERY, VERY SARY FROM TIME TO TIME. I'M ON THE CONSERVATIVE PRUDENT SIDE AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON FUND BALANCE AND CHANGES IN

FUND BALANCE. >> SINCE YOU SAY THAT, I KNOW WE GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE PERIODICALLY, BUT MR. GREESON, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME WE REVIEWED FEES?

>> I THINK IT DEPENDS WHICH FEE YOU ARE CONSIDERING.

BUT WE HAVE THAT -- >> A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT OUR PERMIT FEES, OUR INSPECTION FEES.

>> AND WE ARE DUE AGAIN. IN FACT, AS PART OF THIS BUDGET PROCESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE MAY ACCOMPLISH THAT.

MR. BARTER AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY BRINGING SOME OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE.

GOING TO TACKLE SOME OF THAT IN-HOUSE.

>> WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT REVENUE

DIVERSIFICATION AND ENHANCEMENT. >> IT'S REALLY BECOMING MORE CRITICAL. I THINK WE NEED TO, WE DEVELOP A SYSTEM TO CALCULATE THOSE FEES, DETERMINE THE --

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CONSCIOUSLY DETERMINE THE AMOUNT WICH WE WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THINGS AND HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR POLICY CONVERSATION. WHICH IS ONE OF THE DESIRES WE HAVE TO BRING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE AND THEN GIVEN THE INCREASED RELIANCE ON TAXES AND LOSS OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FROM THE STATE, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER, YOU WILL HEAR US TALK ABOUT IT IN THE COMING BUDGET, SOME APPROACHES TO FINANCING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT ANYTHING THIS YEAR BUT DISCUSS THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN FINANCING, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT DON'T INCLUDE -- PERMISSIVE LICENSE TAX AND FLEXIBILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO STAY TUNED.

>> I JUST WANT TO RECAP. ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE DOING THIS IS WE HAVE HAD UPS AND DOWNS IN OUR GENERAL FUND AND PREVIOUS CASES STARTING IN 2004, I BELIEVE IT SAYS, OR 2006. 2004 WE RAISED 6.5% TO 2% AND THEN 2007 WE HAD A PROPERTY TAX 3MILS TO 5MILS WHICH IS NOT A LOT OF MILS OVERALL FOR MUNICIPALITIES.

AND THEN IN 2010 WENT FROM 2% TO 2.5% TO BE IN LINE WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. SO THAT'S OUR REVENUE AND THAT HAS BROUGHT TO APPROXIMATELY 75% OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS FROM INCOME TAX, ABOUT 10% TAX SO POLICY IS WE ARE BETWEEN, WE WANT TO BE BETWEEN 35-50% BUT WE ARE STILL GOOD WITH BETWEEN 25-35%. FOR OUR FINANCIAL ACTION PLAN

IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO. >> FOR THE FINANCIAL ACTION PLAN IT STARTS TO KICK INTO PLACE UNDER 35% AND YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN THE DRAFT POLICY THERE'S 4-5 STEPS WE MAY TAKE IF WE FALL BELOW TE 35% TO TRY TO GET TO G ETBACK OVER THE 35% THRESHOLD.

. >> THEN START TRYING TO REDUCE OUR EXPENDITURES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE INCLUDING LIMITING OUR EMPLOYEES AND INCREASING FEES, AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN STEP THREE IS DOING ALL SORTS OF REVENUES.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE GONE OVER THOSE STEPS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW THAT WAS WRITTEN DOWN, THAT IS

OUR STATED POLICY. >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND IN YOUR FUND BALANCE IS OUR BOND RATING.

BECAUSE I WATCHED OUR BOND RATING GO DOWN WHEN OUR FUND BALANCE WAS TOO LOW AND WE WORKED HARD TO BRING OUR FUND BALANCE BACK UP AND OUR BOND RATING WENT FROM AA TO AAA WHICH MAKE IT'S MORE ECONOMICAL THE MONEY WE BORROW.

PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN BALANCE IS HOW LOW DO WE GO AND NOT ABLE TO IMPACT OUR BOND RATING.

JUST AS ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDERATION TO JUST HAVE IN THERE, I THE MIX OF THINGS WE LOOK AT.

I HAD THE FUN OF WATCHING THE ROLLER COASTER.

OKAY, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE. ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WHO

HAVE ANYTHING? >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, IF YOU WILL, IN THE COMING COUPLE WEEKS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU COULD SUBMIT THEM TO MR. BARTER BY EMAIL, WE WOULD LOVE THEM. AFTER YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST THE MATERIAL MORE AND WE ARE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE, AS WE SAID EARLIER, TRY TO GIVE A COMPREHENSIVE RSPONSE TO THE QUESTIONS WE GET. CONTEMPLATE THEM AND PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THE DRAFT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WE GET FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. MR. MICHAEL BATES.

YOU ASKED TO HAVE A FEW MOMENTS. >> MICHAEL BATES 6560 EVENING STREET, WORTHINGTON. GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT BUDGETS AFTER HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS QUITE THE CHANGE.

LAST YEAR OCTOBER TO BE PRECISE PROPOSED CREATING A CITIZENS

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ADVISORY PANEL. HE RECOMMENDED I LOOK AT SEE F THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, I DID DO THAT AND RESPONDED BACK TO MS. MICHAEL LAST YEAR. THE POINT OF HAVING THIS, AS COUNCIL DISCUSSED TONIGHT, HAS A LOT OF ASKS IN FRONT OF THEM FOR DOLLARS INCLUDING THESE POLICY CHANGES, THINKING IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION WITH THE CITIZENRY ON THIS ITEM. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR BRINGING THIS BACK UP. I DID TALK TO MR. BARTER, HE HAS CLEARLY DONE HIS HOMEWORK, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE.

BUT THE QUESTION I HAD AFTER SPEAKING TO HIM IS 50% NUMBER SHOULD IT BE MORE, SHOULD IT BE LESS? AND AGAIN, SHOULD THE CITIZENS HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE DOLLARS? I APPRECIATE COUNCIL WANTING TO BE FRUGAL BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN A CITY.

IF WE KEEP DELAYING INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL WE ARE DOING IS CREATING FUTURE MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY THAT IS THEN COMPOUND OVER TIME. SO SOCIAL SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE SUPPORTED AS WELL AS ONGOING GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS BRING BACK UP PUTTING SOME ADVISORY BOARD TOGETHER.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A STANDING BOARD.

I THINK I MENTIONED THIS IN CASUAL CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMEMBERS IT COULD BE DONE BUY ANNUALLY OR DURING AN AUDIT PROCESS OR BUDGET TIME, LIKE WE DO RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE'S A POLICY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE IS A CONCERN HERE ABOUT MOVING THE POLICY, IS THERE A CONCERN THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO MOVE AND IF YOU HAVE THESE 3-4 EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION WITH THOSE EMPLOYERS, ARE THEY GOING TO HIRE MORE, IS THERE A FINANCIAL PICTURE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, TO MAKE THE POINT THERE'S MAJOR EMPLOYERS I ASSUME YOU HAVE HAD SOME LEVEL OF DISCUSSION WITH EMPLOYERS THAT GENERATE THIS INCOME TAX REVENUE.

WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING IN THEIR CRYSTAL BALL? ARE THEY HIRING MORE OR SUSTAIN WHERE ARE THEY MOVING? THAT WOULD BE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE IT SORT OF SEEMS MAYBE AN UNDERLYING PREMISE IS YOU THINK THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO TURN AND START TO GO DOWNWARDS EVEN THOUGH THE ECONOMY IS DOING QUITE WELL RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN

APPROACHED WITH THESE EMPLOYERS. >> YES.

TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. WELL, HOLD ON, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION? TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, YES, MR. MCKERKLE, MR. BARTER IN OUR FIVE-YEAR FORECAST SPEND TIME TALKING TO EMPLOYERS AND HAVE DONE THAT THIS SUMMER TO GET WHAT INTELLIGENT INFORMATION WE CAN ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES. THAT PRIMARILY INFORMS OUR 5-YEAR FORECAST WHICH WE WILL BE IN EARLY OCTOBER.

THE POLICY DOCUMENT HOWEVER IS ROOTED IN WHAT WE THINK IS LONG

TERM BEST PRACTICE FOR THE CITY. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. >> I WOULD JUST GO ONTO MAKE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS. INCOME TAX, IT APPEARS THAT HAS GROWN BY WHAT MR. BARTER SAID, 24% SINCE 2011 AND 2017 YOU SPENT 92% OF YOUR BUDGET. SO THE TREND, IF YOU LOOK, IS SHOWING THAT SAME SORT OF PATTERN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR YOU ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH. I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER FACTOR THAT HASN'T BEEN CONSIDERED IN THIS POLICY THAT OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT IS ON THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE SIDE, THERE'S A COST TO DEFERRING MAINTENANCE. THERE'S A COST EVERY YEAR THEY ARE INCURRING BY INCREASED LABOR COSTS, MATERIALS COST AND

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YOU AREN'T MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S IN YOUR C.I.P. AND BY DEFERRING THAT, I THINK COUNCIL OUGHT TO BE AWARE OF THOSE ARE COSTS THAT OUGHT TO BE FACTORED IN, I BELIEVE, AS YOU THINK ABOUT FUND BALANCE AND ANY TRANSFER TO THE C.I.P. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PROPOSED CHANGE PROPOSAL. BECAUSE I THINK THE TRESHOLD THAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED IS VERY HIGH FOR A TRANSFER TO THE C.I.P. IT'S AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THE 35% LEVEL YOU TRANSFER 50% AT THAT LEVEL AND AT THE 50% YOU TRANSFER 100%.

LOOKING AT THE 2017 FUND BALANCE YOU WOULD BE TRANSFERRING 2.2 MILLION TO THE C.I.P.

AND AT THE 50% IT WOULD BE A HALF MILLION.

UNDER THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED YOU WOULD TRANSFER 250,000 AT THE 50%. I THINK THERE IS THE THRESHOLD EXTREMELY HIGH, MAYBE YOU COULD ADJUST THAT DOWNWARD TO A LEVEL THAT GIVES MORE MONEY INTO THE C.I.P.

SO THOSE ARE MY FEW COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, A REQUEST, I WAS NOT ON THIS SIDE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITIZEN ACTION PANEL OR OTHER CITIZEN, POTENTIAL CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IN BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN THE INTEREST OF PURSUING TRANSPARENCY, EDUCATION OF HOW TO PRIORITIZE THE BUDGET I WAS NOT INVOLVED I DIDN'T GET INFORMATION ABOUT IT, I WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING THAT. IT SHOULD BE DONE, BUDGET 101, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO OCTOBER STAFF SPENT SO MUCH TIME PUTTING IT IN PLACE THE CHANGES IN THAT INVOLVEMENT SHOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING.

BY THE TIME YOU GET TO OCTOBER, THE STAFF HAS SPENT OVER THE SUMMER AND EVERYTHING ELSE PUTTING THESE IN PLACE, BASED ON WHAT WAS AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT AND DIRECTIONS THEY HAVE BEEN, IF THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES AND OTHER INVOLVEMENT I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND NOT THE FALL. I AGREE THAT DOING SOMETHING MAKES SENSE BUT I THINK THE TIMING SHOULD BE EARLY IN THE

YEAR, NOT LATE IN THE YEAR. >> THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PURSUE FOR NEXT YEAR'S PROCESS AND LOOK AT IT.

[5.E. Financial Report - July and August 2018]

ANYBODY ELSE? WE WILL MOVE ONTO OUR FINANCIAL

REPORT. >> I WILL HAVE MR. BARTER DO

EVEN MORE OF IT. >> A BIG COUPLE MONTHS FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. YOU WILL PROBABLY HEAR A LOT FROM ME OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU HAVE JULY AND AUGUST FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

A FEW HIGHLIGHTS, THE FUND BALANCE $26,697,378.

ON JANUARY 1ST 2018, $29,313,909 AS OF AUGUST 31ST 2018, FEDERAL FUND BLANCE INCREASED.

IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS REPORT FOR THE RECORD. ADDITIONALLY, I WILL LET YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT AND I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED?

>> THE 2016-2017 AUDIT IS COMPLETE.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE AUDITORS WHO GAVE THE

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POST-AUDIT CONFERENCE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY WANT TO POST OUT OF CONFERENCE? IF NOT, MS. KOWALCZYK MOVES IT. SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? MR. GREESON IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD?

>> NO, WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, MA'AM, WE REQUEST AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

[6. Reports of Council Members]

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. MS. THRESS, ANYTHING?

>> ACTUALLY, I HAD THIS OPEN MEETING RECORDS TODAY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU.

>> SO YOU ARE ALL COVERED. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: APPRECIATE THAT. WERE YOU ABLE TO STAY AWAKE?

>> WHEN ARE WE DUE FOR AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE LIME BIKE PROPOSITION. THE REASON I ASK, IT SEEMS LIKELY ALL OF THE SUDDEN THERE'S AN ABSENCE OF THEM IN PLACES THEY USED TO BE. THERE WERE POCKETS AT NORTH STREET THEY SEEM TO HAVE VANISHED.

>> WE ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH OUR SIX-MONTH PILOT.

WE JUST RECEIVED AN AUGUST MONTHLY REPORT.

WE HAVE BEEN SHARING THOSE REPORTS WITH THE BIKE AND PED BOARD EACH MONTH BUT I CERTAINLY CAN FORWARD THAT INFORMATION ONTO YOU AND/OR SCHEDULE A LITTLE MORE OF A PRESENTATION, WHATEVER WOULD BE THE PLEASURE.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL? ADDITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENT, I

APOLOGIZE, I INTERRUPTED. >> GLAD TO BE BACK.

THANKS. MY BRAIN IS A LITTLE DELAYED.

I HAVE A NEWBORN AT HOME. I HAVEN'T SLEPT MUCH.

BUT I DID WATCH YOU GUYS ON THE VIDEO AND LOOKED GOOD AND IT'S GOOD WHEN YOU TURN YOUR MICS ON. SO JUST BE SURE THAT YOU DO THAT. BUT ONE THING, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT WITH ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE MS. KOWALCZYK JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD START, IF WE ARE INTERESTED AS A COUNCIL HAVING SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR BUDGET COMMITTEE AS IT WERE STARTING THAT PROCESS NOW FOR THE 2020 BUDGET BECAUSE AS WE KNOW SPEED OF GOVERNMENT IS SLOW AND KNOWING THIS BUDGET FOR 2019, LIVING THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WE MOVE INTO 2020 BUDGETING. JUST MY TWO CENTS THERE.

ALSO I NOTICED ON THE 5-C OF OUR HANDOUT WHICH LOOKS LIKE A TRIPLE A RATED CITIES I DIDN'T SEE THE CITY OF BRECKSVILLE.

THAT WOULD BE A COMPARABLE CITY. THEN THE LAST THING IS COMMUNITY STAFFORD VILLAGE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SAW THAT AND WAS READING THAT AND TAKING THAT IN.

THERE ARE A COUPLE POINTS ON THAT REPORT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD BUT I WILL SHOOT A NOTE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND N.C.R.

REPRESENTATIVES. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANKS, GLAD TO BE BACK. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. DOROTHY?

>> NOTHING. >> WE HAD THE CENTRAL OHIO MAYOR MANAGER'S MEETING LAST FRIDAY AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF TOPICS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND PARTICULARLY INTERESTING WAS THAT 80 YEARS AGO WAS WHEN THE OHIO LEGISLATURE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY OF CITIES TO BE ABLE TO USE SALES TAX TO FINANCE THINGS AND FOR 70 YEARS THEY HAD THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND.

IT'S ONLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS OUT OF 80 YEARS WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND. I FOUND TAT INTERESTING AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, AS WE HAVE AN ELECTION YEAR COMING FORWARD, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS TO ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING ON BOTH SIDES IS THE THOUGHT REGARDING LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING AND NOT REDUCING HOME RULE.

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THERE IS A MEETING WITH THE AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES.

WORTHINGTON HAS BEEN INVITED. I WILL DEFINITELY BE AT THE MEETING. I HAVE ALREADY SAID YES.

MR. GREESON, I THINK WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE PEOPLE, ONE IS AN OLDER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL AND I WILL REPORT BACK. AND THAT'S ALL.

MR. GREESON, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE?

>> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TOMORROW IS -- DAY AND CELEBRATION COMMEMORATING EVENT, COMMEMORATION ON THE VILLAGE GREEN. IT'S ALWAYS A WONDERFUL ACTIVITY AND ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO ATTEND IF THEY CAN.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO

[8. Executive Session]

BRING BEFORE COUNCIL? MR. GREESON, THE ONLY THING YOU NEED AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR IS BOARDS AND COMMISSION

APPOINTMENTS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. FOUST MOVES THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF NEGOTIATIONS SECONDED BY MS. SMITH. MS. THRESS CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ONGOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> NOW OUT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

A MOTION TO ADJOURN, SECONDED BY SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.