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[1. Call To Order]

[2. Roll Call]

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>> CLERK:

[3. Pledge of Allegiance]

EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS IN THE BACK THERE. WHAT SCHOOL? THOMAS? WHICH CLASS? WE HAVE ONE OF YOUR COMPATRIOTS AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO SOMEONE FROM THE RED CLASS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING, YOU AREN'T SURE, IF WE ARE GOING FASTER OR WHATEVER, RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE WILL EXPLAIN AND FILL IN ANY BLANKS. SOME OF US HAVE READ THIS STUFF AND WE KNOW A LOT OF IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SERIOUSLY, IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THE ONLY VISITOR COMMENTS I HAVE RELATES TO AN AGENDA ITEM SO I WILL MOVE ONTO THE CONSENT

[5. Consent Agenda]

AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA COMPRISES -- THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS UNLESS IT'S REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE WILL BE APPROVED BY ONE MOTION. A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR THE PUBLIC REQUESTS DISCUSSION OF A PARTICULAR ITEM, PLEASE LET US KNOW SO THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

THE FIRST PRT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS OF OCTOBER 21, OCTOBER 8TH, SPECIAL MEETING AND OCTOBER 8TH REGULAR MEETING. ORDINANCE 45-2018 AMENDING ADOPTING AND RATIFYING THE AMENDED AND RESTATED CENTRAL OHIO HEALTHCARE CONSORTIUM JOINT SELF INSURANCE AGREEMENT AND PARTICIPATION BY THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON AND CENTRAL OIO CONSORTIUM FOR THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2018. ORDINANCE 46-2018, AMENDING ORDINANCE 41-2017 TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TIF FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE.

RESOLUTION 57-2018 AMENDING THE STAFFING CHART OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO PROVIDE FOR 25 FIREFIGHTER E.M.T.-P. POSITIONS IN THE DIVISION OF THE FIRE FOR UP TO ONE YEAR.

MOVED BY DOROTHY, SECONDED BY KOWALCZYK.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I BELIEVE WE ONLY NEED THE INTRODUCTION

ON THAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: RESOLUTIONS WE HAVE USUALLY NEEDED THE OTHER.

>> AND SECOND FOR THE WHOLE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE

SUFFICIENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. AMENDING THE 2018 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN NEW AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT LIST INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON AND REAPPOINTMENTING MEMBERS TO THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS INTRODUCED BY MR. FOUST.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO HAVE ANY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PIECES OF LEGISLATION REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> R. DOROTHY: YES I WOULD LIKE 5-C AND 5-F REMOVED?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHICH ONES ARE THOSE?

>> R. DOROTHY: 46-2018 AND 58-2018.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL REMOVE THOSE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA? IF NOT, MR. MYERS MOVES WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ON ACCEPTING IT? MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS AMENDED.

>> CLERK:

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CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN PASSED. THE REASON FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR OUR STUDENTS, THERE ARE ITEMS WE DO VERY ROUTINELY, THINGS WE HAVE EITHER DISCUSSED BEFORE OR VERY ROUTINE, WE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THEM SEPARATELY

[5.C. Ordinance No. 46-2018 Additional Appropriation]

AND WE CAN MOVE THE MEETING. ORDINANCE 46-2018.

AMENDING ORDINANCE 41-2017 TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND IN DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TIF UNFUNDED BALANCE FRMT MR.

GREESON? >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER MS. DOROTHY'S QUESTION. ONE IS OVERTIME IN THE DIVISION OF POLICE AND DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO FRANKLIN COUNTY, ASSOCIATED WITH THE DOWNTOWN TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT. IS THERE A PARTICULAR QUESTION

YOU MAY HAVE? >> R. DOROTHY: SO, EVENTUALLY, AS OUR TIF FUNDS IMPROVE FOR THAT TIF FOR DOWNTOWN, I BELIEVE THE MONEY IS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT DISTRICT, WHEN WE EVENTUALLY HAVE MONEY IN THAT TIF?

>> YES, MA'AM. I THINK THIS YEAR THE DISTRICT, WHICH ENCOMPASSES OLD WORTHINGTON AND IS WHAT'S CALLED A DISTRICT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT, AS OPPOSED TO A TIF APPLIED TO AN INDIVIDUAL PARCEL DID START PRODUCING REVENUE AND IN FACT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WE ARE PROPOSING TO FINANCE USING THOSE TAKSIM PROVEMENT DOLLARS.

>> R. DOROTHY: SO I HAD SOME RESIDENTS ASK IF WE COULD HAVE SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS PUT IN OUR PUBLIC PARKING. THAT WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE USED.

>> IT'S POSSIBLE WE GET THEM FOR FREE BECAUSE I BELIEVE A.E.P. HAS SOME GRANTS RIGHT NOW.

>> R. DOROTHY: THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.

THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE -- WIT, ROLL CALL ON ORDINANCE 46-2018.

>> CLERK: ORDINANCE 46-2018 HAS PASSED. NOW WE ARE GOING ON TO THE

[5.F. Resolution No. 58-2018 Service & Engineering Standby Generator - 2018 New & Replacement Equipment List]

DISCUSSION OF RESOLUTION 58-2018, AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, NEW AND REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT LIST.

MS. DOROTHY? >> R. DOROTHY: YES, THE MEMO WAS VERY WELL DONE, IT HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT, INCLUDING THE ANTICIPATED LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE NEW GENERATOR BEING 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A WHILE THE LIFE CYCLE OF NEW EQUIPMENT, NEW BUILDINGS, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, TINGS WE WILL HAVE A COST FOR.

I WAS JUST WONDERING THEN, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT PROJECTS OUT INTO A C.I.P. AT THIS TIME. IF WE KNOW WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED LIFE EXPECTANCY O THE ROOF OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE GETTING ALL THIS DATA NOW.

THANK YOU. DO WE THEN DO PROJECTIONS INTO THE FUTURE? OR KEEP ON THE FIVE YEARS?

>> ASKING FOR 25 YEAR C.I.P., NO.

BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING FOR, WITH THE HELP OF, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, OUR FLEET MANAGER, AND IN MOST CASES OUR SUPERINTENDENT STEVE AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEERING GROUP, DEFINITELY TAKING A MUCH HEAVIER FOCUS ON STRATEGIC LOOKING FORWARD ANTICIPATING REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES AND INTENDED PROJECTS OVER THAT FIVE-YEAR PROJECT FOR THE C.I.P.

WE ARE PROJECTING BEYOND THAT BUT WE DON'T OFFICIALLY RECORD

IT IN THE C.I.P. DOCUMENTS. >> R. DOROTHY: OKAY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN. RESOLUTION 58-2018 IS PASSED.

[6.A. Ordinance No. 42-2018 Final Plan and Variances for 181 East Wilson Bridge Road]

OKAY, MOVING BACK ONTO THE AGENDA.

PUBLIC HEARING ON LEGISLATION, ORDINANCE 42-2018.

FINAL PLAN AND VARIANCES FOR 181 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, AUTHORIZING THE FINAL PLAN TO WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR FOR 181 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. AND AUTHORIZING VARIANCES.

MR. GREESON? >> YEAH, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR

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YOUR SUPPORT OF LETTING US USE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS A MEETING MANAGEMENT TOOL ON THIS AGENDA. THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO FOCUS TIME ON THE TWO IPORTANT MATTERS, MOST IMPORTANT, LESS ROUTINE MATTERS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDE THE FINAL PLAN FOR 181 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND LATER, THE CITY'S PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN HERE IN A SECOND.

DID YOU REMOVE IT? DID YOU REMOVE IT FROM THE

TABLE? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NO.

>> SO I WILL RECOMMEND YOU REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: KOWALCZYK MOVES WE REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE, SECOND BY MR. ROBINSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING FROM THE TABLE SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? IT IS NOW MOVED FROM THE TABLE.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. SO THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING. TWO COUNCILMEMBERS AT THAT TIME WERE ABSENT, AS WELL AS THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT HAVE HEARD IT AT THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN WHO WILL GO THROUGH A SIMILAR STAFF PRESENTATION AS BEFORE, BOTH FOR TE RECORD AND THE APPLICANT, MR. DON KENNY REPRESENTED BY MR. DAVID HODGE ARE HERE THIS EVENING.

MR. BROWN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AS MR. GREESON MENTIONED SOME OF YOU WERE HERE FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND THE AUDIENCE, SOME WEREN'T. I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH IT RATHER QUICKLY, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW.

STARTING WITH WILSON BRIDGE ROAD CORRIDOR, BACK IN 2011, CITY COUNCIL, ACTUALLY STARTED THREE YEARS BEFORE 2011 IN LOOKING AT RIVER-TO-RAIL OF WHAT TO DO WITH THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. IT WAS A STREETSCAPE OFFICE REDEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY AND THIS IS WHAT WENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN 2011 FOR APPROVAL. AGAIN, IT CREATED TEN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AT THAT TIME OF RECOMMENDED DISTRICTS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT. AGAIN, WE HAVE EXISTING ZONING IN PLACE. AND WHEN WE WHITTLED DOWN THE PROPOSED ZONING WE CREATED FOUR NEW ZONING CATEGORIES YOU APPROVED FOUR YEARS AGO, FOUR NEW DISTRICTS, MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, MIXED USE AND OFFICE IN THE CORRIDOR.

AGAIN, THIS WAS THE PROPOSED ZONING, PRIMARILY OFFICE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, IN THE CENTER AROUND HIGH STREET, WE HAD A MIXED USE AREA AND ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, ALONG EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, AREA FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND AREA RECOMMENDED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. WHEN THIS WENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TWO YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE LOOKED AT THAT WAS REALLY A DEVIATION FROM THE 2011 PLAN WAS RELATED TO HEIGHTS AND SETBACKS AND USES IN THE CORRIDOR.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE 2011 PLAN CALLED FOR SIX STORIES, EIGHT STORIES IN HEIGHT. THROUGH OUR SIX-MONTH REVIEW PROCESS AFTER IT WENT FROM PLANNING COMMISSION TO COUNCIL, WE RVISED THOSE HEIGHT DENSITIES FOR WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO IT RECOMMENDED 3-4 STORIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

THE SOUTH SIDE WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE 2011 PLAN AND WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS FOR TWO AND A HALF STORIES AND HEIGHT FOR THAT AREA.

THE FOCUS AREA WE LOOKED AT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS BEEN THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

AGAIN, SOME VERY DEEP LOTS. USUALLY 100 FEET IN FRONTAGE.

ABOUT AN ACRE IN SIZE STARTING FROM WEST VIEW OVER TO THE COMMUNITY CNTER, ABOUT 18 DIFFERENT PARCELS INVOLVED.

THE PROPOSAL YOU WILL SEE IN THE COMING FEW MINUTES WAS THE TWO PARCELS OUTLINED IN RED. THERE ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE AREA RECOMMENDED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, EVERYTHING FROM THE EAST TOWARD THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS THE AREA RECOMMENDED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND EVERYTHING TO THE WEST IS RECOMMENDED FOR OFFICE. AGAIN, AT THE SAME TIME WE DID THE 2011 PLAN. IN 2015 WE STARTED THE EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD PLAN, RIVER TO RAIL, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS MULTIUSE PATHS, STREETLIGHTS, STREET TREES.

SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, IT STILL FOCUSED ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND THE OFFICE COMPONENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AGAIN, KIND OF THE CONSISTENT THEME WAS BUFFERS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, ALONG NORTH HIGH DRIVE AND HEIGHT LIMIT OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES ON HEIGHT.

AGAIN THIS IS THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE RECOMMENDED FOR THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, TWO AND A HALF STORIES IN HEIGHT. AGAIN, THE 2011 WILSON BRIDGE

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CORRIDOR STUDY KIND OF OUTLINED WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND HOW TO USE THE PLAN TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

IT ALSO MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO LOOK AT CHANGING OUR ZONING CATEGORIES AND CREATING NEW USES FOR THAT CORRIDOR YOU PREVIOUSLY SAW. AGAIN WITH WILSON RIDGE CORRIDOR, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2011.

WE WENT THROUGH THE CORRIDOR ZONING.

PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD IT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2015, AND THEN WE DID ABOUT A SIX-MONTH DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL AT OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING IN 2016 AND THEN ADOPTED ON APRIL 18TH, 2016. AND OUR EFFECTIVE DATE WAS IN JUNE, AFTER THE REFERENDUM PERIOD.

AGAIN, WITH WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE COMING MINUTES WITH 181 EAST WILSON DRIVE WITH ZONING, IT DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION, ORIGINALLY. FOR THE REZONING OF THE ENTIRE CATEGORIES. APRIL 2017, APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN MAY, AND REZONING OF THOSE PARCELS JULY 3RD.

JUMPING INTO THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU, 181 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. THE ZONING IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

THE REQUIREMENT IS TO DO A PRELIMINARY PLAN, FINAL PLAN APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. FINAL PLANS ARE REQUIRED TO COME ON TO CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN, THE TWO PARCELS BEFORE YOU, THERE ARE TWO EXISTING VACANT LOTS.

SO THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU IS FOR -- SORRY, 32 UNITS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WLSON BRIDGE ROAD, TWO BUILDINGS WITH A PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE. SO THE PROPOSAL IS BEFORE YOU.

THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, 200 FEET TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OCCUR.

EACH PARCEL WAS 111 FEET IN WIDTH.

THOSE PARCELS WERE CREATED AS PART OF THE NORTH HIGH SUBDIVISION IN 1923. THE CITY WILL REQUIRE THEM TO COMBINE THOSE PARCELS TO ONE LOT OF RECORD.

THE TWO BUILDINGS WITH 16 UNITS, TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT.

THE FIRST LEVEL WILL HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS AT GRADE FOR THE UNITS AND SECOND STORY UNITS WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY STAIRS. THERE'S ALSO A DISCUSSION AT THE TIME WITH THE MULTIUSE PATH THAT WILL BE REQUIRED ALONG THE FRONT AND THE FUTURE. THE APPLICANT IS DEDICATING 15 FEET OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF WILSON BRIDGE ROAD WE WILL USE TOWARD FUTURE INSTALLMENT OF THE MULTIUSE PATH FROM HIGH STREET OVER TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE FUTURE. AND AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THEY WILL DO STREET TREES, STREETLIGHTS AND LIGHTING AND DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR SITE. WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT TE LAST MEETING RELATED TO INGRESS AND EGRESS, THERE'S A VARIANCE REQUESTED FOR THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH OUT AT THE CURB, WHICH WAS ABOUT 76 FEET IN WIDTH. HOWEVER, WHERE IT NARROWS DOWN TO THE RECREATIONAL PATH AND THE SIDEWALK INSTALLED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT NARROWS DOWN TO 26 FEET IN WIDTH TO 30 FEET IN WIDTH. AGAIN AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, ACCESS DRIVE AROUND THE MIDDLE AND GARAGES ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE.

BEFORE YOU IS THE NEW LANDSCAPING PLAN AND EXISTING TREES THAT WILL B PRESERVED AS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT, NEW PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPING ALONG EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, ALONG NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO THE WEST, ADDITIONAL VEGETATION TO HELP SCREEN IN WITH THAT. ALONG THE REAR, THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON NORTH HIGH DRIVE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE ZONING TEXT, WHEN WE DID THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT.

LOOKED AT THE LANDSCAPING AND IT WILL BE A SIX FOOT CEDAR FENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE PRESERVING 404 CALIPER INCHES OF TREES, SLATED TO REMOVE 1600 CALIPER INCHES OF TREES AND THEN THEY WILL BE ADDING BACK ABOUT 343 INCHES.

THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT FOR THE DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR UP TO 75% OF IMPERVIOUS SERVICE, THEY ARE ONLY PROPOSING 60%, SO THEY

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ARE EXCEEDING AND ADDING PERENNIALS SHRUBS AND GRASSES AS PART OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, THEY ARE ASKING FOR 16 UNITS TO THE ACRE, WHERE CODE ALLOWS FOR MAXIMUM OF 14 TO THE ACRE. SO VARIANCE TO DEVIATE FROM THAT REQUIREMENT IS REQUESTED. RENTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE $800-$1250 RANGE. 1, 2, AND 3 BEDROOM UNITS ON THE SITE. THERE WILL BE BICYCLE RACKS, DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES AND BENCHES ON THE SITE.

AGAIN, IN THE ZONING CATEGORY ON THE SITE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND IT HAS A LIST OF PERMITTED USES. AND ONE IS MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS. MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES. IT MEETS THAT.

DENSITY HAS A MAX DENSITY OF 14 UNITS.

AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO DEVIATE FROM THAT REQUIREMENT TO 16 UNITS. THERE ARE FOUR VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUESTED FOR YOU TONIGHT. ONE IS FROM SECTION 903.10.

IS TO ALLOW THE DRIVEWAY TO EXCEED THE 45 FEET IN WIDTH AT THE CURB LINE AND AGAIN, SECTION 1181.05 SUBSECTION A, SUBSECTION 1-C, BUILDINGS CLOSER TO 50 FEET TO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. AS YOU MAY RECALL FROM OUR LAST PRESENTATION, WHEN WE REZONED THOSE TWO PARCELS, THE OIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO REZONE THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

IF WE HAD REZONED THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GRANT VARIANCES TO DEVIATE FROM THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.

AND THEN AGAIN, SECTION 1181.05, SUBSECTION C-1 REQUIRES ALL HEALTHY TREES, SIX INCH CALIPER OR LARGER TO BE RETAINED OR REPLACED, OR FEE OF $150 PER CALIPER INCH.

FOR WHAT'S NOT REPLACED. AGAIN, FROM OUR LAST DISCUSSION, THAT WAS A TREE FEE EXCEEDING $201,000 IF WE WENT WITH THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS IN THE CODE.

AND AGAIN SECTION 1181.06 SECTION A-3 HAS MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 14 UNITS FOR THE ACRE. AGAIN WITH TE DRIVEWAY EXCEEDING THE 45 FEET, WE HAD A HEALTHY DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING, RELATED TO THE ENTRANCE DRIVE AND HOW IT NARROWS DOWN TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT O 22 FEET REQUIRED IN CODE FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ENTERING AND EXITING THE SITE.

ALSO WITH THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE 50 FEET FOR BUFFER FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS, AGAIN, IF WE LOOK AT THE TIME REZONE, THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR WE WOULDN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT. BUT AGAIN WHEN THIS DID GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION WE ADDED ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THIS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE WITH SECTION 1181 RELATED TO THE TREE FEES.

AGAIN, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS LINDEN AND I HAVE MET WITH DEVELOPERS WHO WANTED TO DO THINGS USUALLY AT A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY, INSTEAD OF 16 UNITS TO THE ACRE, IT WAS 20.

THE TREE FEE WAS AN ISSUE WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS.

WITH THIS ONE WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH MR. KINNEY AND MR. HODGE TO GET BETTER DEVELOPMENT, LAYOUT AND MATERIALS AND SUPPORTING OF THE WAIVER FOR THE TREE FEE BUT ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ANY WAIVER OF TREE FEES. AGAIN, IN TALKING WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS AND THE CURRENT DEVELOPER, THE STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THAT MAKES THAT PARCEL IMPOSSIBLE TO DEVELOP AT ALL WITH THE COST. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO LOTS IN THE ENTIRE CITY THAT HAVE THAT TREE FEE REQUIREMENT TO THEM.

SO AGAIN, THAT TREE FEE, WITH WHAT THEY ARE TAKING AWAY, WHAT THEY ARE ADDING BACK AS A CREDIT, IT WOULD BE $201,750 AS A FEE THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE FINAL ONE IS THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IS 14 UNITS TO THE ACRE AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROCESS THE CORRIDOR ZONING WENT THROUGH, THE REZONING OF THOSE TWO PARCELS AND THEN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IMPLEMENT PLAN FOR 181 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. AND I RAMBLED AND STUTTERED A LITTLE, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY

HAVE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. SMITH?

>> D. SMITH: IN GENERAL, WHAT PARAMETERS APPLY TE TIF MODEL

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TO A DEVELOPMENT? >> WHAT TIF MODEL?

>> D. SMITH: SORT OF TIF FUNDING THAT CULD BE ASSIGNED

TO A DEVELOPMENT. >> TYPICALLY WE DON'T TIF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO TO THIS MODEL THERE ISN'T A

TIF ASSOCIATED. >> D. SMITH: UNDERSTAND, BUT

WHAT ARE THEY LEGALLY. >> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER OR IF

MR. GREESON KNOWS. >> TAX INCREMENT IS A TOOL USED TYPICALLY TO FINANCE, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. EXAMPLES OF THAT COULD INCLUDE STREETSCAPING INTERSECTIONS, TRAILS, UTILITIES.

>> D. SMITH: HIGHER LEVEL - IN THEORY THIS DEVELOPMENT

COULD BE TIF'D? >> CORRECT, IT COULD BE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROBINSON, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE

ABOUT READY TO -- >> D. ROBINSON: MR. BROWN, WHEN DID YOU HAVE THE PRIOR CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT THE PARCELS WHERE THE TREE ISSUE CAME UP?

>> I WOULD SAY, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATES, BUT I WOULD SAY SINCE I STARTED HERE IN 2013, AND IN 2014.

MULTITUDE OF OTHERS. >> D. ROBINSON: AND WHEN WERE THE PARCELS REZONED? INCLUDING THE TREE ORDINANCE?

>> BEFORE YOU IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, MAY 1ST, 2017 AND THEY WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 3RD.

>> D. ROBINSON: THAT LEADS TO MY QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE AWARE THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE, AS WRITTEN, THAT WOULD BE PROVE TO BE ONEROUS IN YOUR JUDGMENT, WHY WAS IT REZONED LAST YEAR WITH THAT

PROVISION IN THE ZONING? >> I THINK WE SILL LOOKED AT THE TREE ORDINANCE AS A TOOL TO GET A BETTER PRODUCT IN DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T THINK WE LOOKED AT IT AS THE ABSOLUTELY END-ALL PERFECT SCENARIO OR SOLUTION

FOR THE TREE FEE ITSELF. >> D. ROBINSON: IS THAT WHAT COUNCIL INTENDED? THAT IT'S A TOOL?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ABOUT THAT POINT IN TIME WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUE ABOUT SOMEBODY COMING IN AND CLEAR CUTTING ALL THE TREES AND THERE BEING NO TREES LEFT ON A PARTICULAR PARCEL.

A FEW PEOPLE COMING IN THAT RESPECT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ACTUALLY FIGURED HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.

IF YOU TAKE ALMOST ANY OTHER PARCEL ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, EXCEPT THESE, THERE'S NOWHERE NEAR THE TREE COVERAGE.

THERE'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TREE COVERAGE, SO WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT A POLICY ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

I DON'T THINK WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THE TREES. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HAVING SOME SORT OF WAY WE HANDLE TREE AND TREE CUTTING ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST TWO PARCELS IN THE WHOLE CITY AND NOTHING ANYWHERE ELSE.

BUT THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR A JANUARY RETREAT, YOU KNOW.

I'M JUST THINKING, WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY.

THE ONE PARCEL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY LOOKED AT AND SAID WOW, THIS IS GOING TO COST $200,000.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WENT OUT THERE TO MEASURE THE TREES TO KNOW THAT. BUT THE PHILOSOPHY IN GENERAL IF YOU CUT DOWN BIG TREES, LET'S HAVE SOME REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL'S MIND SET WAS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IMAGINED THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY BIG TREES THAT WOULD LEAD TO THIS KIND OF MONEY.

>> WE DIDN'T KNOW THE FEE WOULD BE THAT UNTIL WE MET WITH THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL FROM -- CASEY.

WE HAD NO IDEA. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS 450 PER CALIPER INCH, BUT WE HAD THE DIRECTION, SO WE ADJUSTED IT FROM THE 450 TO THE 150. BUT LINDEN AND I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL WE WALKED THE SITE WITH MR. VACASY PROBABLY IN 2016-2017 THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY TREES MEETING THAT.

>> R. DOROTHY: I WAS ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.

I THOUGHT WE WERE PASSING AN ORDINANCE WITH THE INTENT OF TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME TREES AND, IF THEYBE PRESERVED, GET SOME REPLACEMENT, BUT DEFINITELY NOT AS A MONEY MAKER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY FOR TREES, I HAVE IN THE PAST, I HAD THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE ASK FOR INCREASE IN THE BUDGET IN THE C.I.P. AND ONGOING.

BUT I DIDN'T INTEND THIS ZONING CODE WOULD BE A WAY TO INCREASE THAT BUDGET IN OUR C.I.P. I THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE THE

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INTENT OF SAVING OR REPLACING SOME TREES.

BUT -- >> NO CLEAR CUT.

>> R. DOROTHY: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS? MR. SMITH?

>> D. SMITH: TO THAT POINT, THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP, AND THIS MAY BE A MR. LINDSEY QUESTION AS WELL.

I DO REMEMBER THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE TREE FEE, AS WE ARE CALLING IT.

I KNOW A SPECIFIC INSTANCE CAME UP WHERE IT WAS PLANNED TO BE USED ALL ALONG, I THINK, AS A NEGOTIATION MECHANISM.

HOWEVER, NOT GIVING KIND OF NO-HOLDS BAR ZERO DOLLAR FEE OR A COMPLETE WAIVER IN THIS CASE. AND THE SCENARIO I WAS JOTTING DOWN A SECOND AGO, I THINK I EVEN ASKED MR. GEESON AT THE TIME, ISN'T IT POSSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, FOR US AS A CITY TO MANDATE, AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER DONATE TO OUR PRKS FOUNDATION OVER A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE? AND I TINK THE ANSWER ON THAT WAS YES.

AS A WAY TO, MS. DOROTHY'S POINT, REPLENISH SOME OF OUR STREET TREE PROGRAM, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

>> R. DOROTHY: I DON'T WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS ISN'T A COMPLETE WAIVER BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

THEY ARE DEFINITELY KEEPING SOME TREES.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE INTENT TO KEEP TREES.

AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY REPLACING SOME TREES.

WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE SAYS ABOUT $50,000 OF THEM.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED WHEN THEY COME FOR THEIR BUILDING PERMIT, THERE'S A FEE, I BELIEVE $250 PER UNIT.

SO FOR THE 32 UNITS, THERE WILL BE THAT FEE CHARGED TO IT THAT

GOES TO IT -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE TREE FEE WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE OPEN SPACE FEE.

OKAY. ANYTHING?

>> MR. -- WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE PROVIDED FOR THE INCREASE IN DENSITY? I ASSUME THEY GAVE YOU SOME REASONING OR EXPLANATION, OR --

>> I WILL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER.

FOR THEIR REASON, THEIR JUSTIFICATION TO US WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS THEY NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORK AND FOR THE PRODUCT AND LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS, ANYTHING FURTHER I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO MR.

KINNEY AND MR. HODGE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM?

AND ADDRESS? >> THANKS.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DAVID HODGE, I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, OXFORD CIRCLE L.L.C., 8,000 MOLTON PARKWAY. NEW ALBANY, 43054.

WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. AND WE HAVE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRINK SOME COFFEE AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND TO DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS, PUT SOME NEW INFORMATION OUT ON THE TABLE AND OUR EFFORT HAS BEEN TO CHANGE MINDS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TOTALLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT. WE WILL SEE.

THE STANDARD THAT ANY DECISION MAKER IN AN AREA VARIANCE SUCH AS THIS TO CONSIDER, FROM THE DUNCAN CASE VERSUS MIDDLE FIELD, AN OHIO SUPREME COURT DECISION, AND IT LAYS OUT SEVEN CRITERIA. ITS INCUMBENT UPON AN APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE TO A DECISION-MAKING BODY THEY MEET THE CRITERIA. AN APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET ALL SEVEN OF THE DUNCAN FACTORS.

THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE THEY MEET SEVERAL AND HOPEFULLY THE DECISION MAKERS, WHEN YOU ARE DEVELOPERS ADVOCATE THE SCALE IS TIPPED IN FAVOR OF A VARIANCE.

LET ME TALK ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL MEETS THE DUNCAN FACTORS FOR EACH OF THE VARIANCES. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND DO THE INDIVIDUAL FACTOR ANALYSIS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR VARIANCES, BUT JUST IN SUM. WHETHER THE VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL. NONE OF THESE VARIANCES IS SUBSTANTIAL AT ALL. SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, HEY THE DENSITY VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL, BUT IT'S NOT.

WE CAN PARK THIS SITE, WE CAN MEET YOUR HEIGHT CRITERIA, WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WHATSOEVER BY THE ADDITION OF THESE FUR

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UNITS TO THE PROJECT. >> MR. HODGE, WHAT IS

SUBSTANTIAL? >> WLL, SUBSTANTIAL IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT FOUR UNITS ACROSS THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL.

IF WE, I WOULD SAY WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL IF WE COULDN'T ADEQUATELY PARK THIS UNDER YUR CODE, IF WE WERE ASKING TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT TO GET MORE UNITS, OR BE BELOW THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES OR AN ISSUE WITH THE BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTH. THOSE WOULD LEAD ONE TO A CONCLUSION A VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL BUT FOUR UNITS ACROSS TWO ACRES THAT DOESN'T BURDEN ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY NOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO ME, IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL.

BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHETHER THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED OR WHETHER ADJOINING PROPERTIES WOULD SUFFER SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT AS A RESULT OF THE VARIANCE, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. NO ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO SUFFER ANY DETRIMENT. I THINK SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST WEEK, ONE OF THE A JOING PROPERTY OWNERS WROTE A LETTER TO COUNCIL IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST.

I THINK I MENTIONED WHEN WE WERE HERE A COUPLE WEKS AGO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CITY STAFF, OUR FIRST MEETING HERE WITH THE NORTH HIGH DRIVE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.

THEY WERE ALL IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL AND THEY WERE ALL ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN BOTH THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR PLAN AND ALSO THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR ZONING ADOPTION.

WHETHER THE VARIANCE WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE DELIVERY OF GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES, NONE OF THESE VARIANCES WILL MAKE A FLIT OF DIFFERENCE TO THE DELIVERY OF ANY GOVERNMENTAL SERVICE TO THE PROPERTY. NOT A FLIT.

WHETHER THE SPIRIT AND INTENT BEHIND THE ZONING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE OBSERVED AND SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE DONE BY GRANTING A VARIANCE. I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. WE DISCUSSED THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK. I SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THERE TO LOOK AT THIS THROUGH THE LENS OF THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR PLAN, WHICH THIS COUNCIL ADOPTED. THAT PLAN TALKS ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY SHOULD DEVELOP, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT AS TIMES CHANGE, AS CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE DECISION MAKERS HERE, COUNCIL, TO BE FLEXIBLE IN THEIR APPROACH.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SPIRIT AND INTENT BEHIND THE ZONING REQUIREMENT, IT'S EBODIED IN THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR PLAN AND WE MEET THAT, IN MY OPINION, TO THE LETTER.

THAT'S FOUR OF THE SEVEN. AND I BELIEVE THAT BY DEMONSTRATING WE MEET AT LEAST FOUR OF THE SEVEN, THAT TIPS THE SCALE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE PLAN IN TOTAL AND ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL VARIANCES AS THEY RELATE TO THE PLAN.

>> D. ROBINSON: MY BASIC ISSUE WITH YOUR READING OF THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO GRANT A VARIANCE IF SOME OF THESE CRITERIA ARE MET.

WHEREAS IT READS THE B.Z.A. OR COUNCIL MAY GRANT A VARIANCE.

WE ARE NOT COMPELLED TO GRANT A VARIANCE IF THESE CRITERIA OR

ANY OF THEM ARE MET, ARE WE? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

I LOVE THIS CONVERSATION. SO, YOUR QESTION, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IS ARE YOU COMPELLED TO SUPPORT A VARIANCE WITH A MEETING OF THE DUNCAN FACTORS.

WE CAN DEBATE THAT ALL DAY LONG. COURTS CAN DEBATE IT ALL DAY LONG, AND SUPREME COURTS CAN DEBATE IT ALL DAY LONG.

BUT TO ME, ZONING, IT'S A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION IN A WORLD THAT IS NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

AND SO THE LAW BY ITS VERY NATURE PUT THIS VARIANCE PROCESS IN PLACE. BECAUSE IT RECOGNIZES IT WOULD BE UCONSTITUTIONAL TO IMPOSE A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL REQUIREMENT TO INDIVIDUAL UNFORESEEABLE CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND SO, IS THE COUNCIL COMPELLED TO APPROVE THESE VARIANCES? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE ABLY DEMONSTRATED THAT WE MEET THE DUNCAN FACTORS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR VARIANCES WE ARE REQUESTING AS A PART OF THIS PLAN.

I WULD SAVE IT -- LOOK, IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED.

WE ARE GOING AWAY. WE DON'T WANT TO FIGHT WITH THE CITY AT ALL. DON'S GOT A VERY IMPORTANT

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PROJECT IN THIS TOWN AND WE ARE HERE TO DO OUR VERY BEST ON THE CORRIDOR THAT WE BELIEVE MEETS THE CITY'S PLAN.

BUT HYPOTHETICALLY, IF SOMEBODY HAD A DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN WE DO, AND THIS PLAN WAS DISAPPROVED AND THEY WENT TO COURT, I DON'T KNOW. TOSS A COIN.

I THINK COURTS GET IT WRONG ALL THE TIME.

BUT MAYBE. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING MAYBE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTIONS?

>> D. SMITH: WHILE YOU ARE UP THERE.

DO YOU CONSIDER THIS DEVELOPMENT SINGLE-STORY LIVING?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SINGLE FLOOR.

>> D. SMITH: SINGLE-FLOOR LIVING.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO PEOPLE LIVE ON ONE FLOOR?

>> D. SMITH: DO YOU CONSIDER IT SINGLE FLOOR LIVING?

>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE SINGLE FLOOR LIVING,

YES. >> D. SMITH: SINGLE FLOOR

LIVING DEVELOPMENT. >> THERE ARE SECOND STORY UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO I GUESS, NO.

BUT THE CODE ALLOWS TWO AND A HALF STORIES HERE.

>> D. SMITH: BUT THERE ARE NO ELEVATORS PROPOSED?

>> NO ELEVATORS PROPOSED. >> D. SMITH: THANK YOU.

>> CAN I CLARIFY AN ANSWER I GAVE TO MR. SMITH EARLIER? HE ASKED ME IF THIS PROPERTY COULD BE TAX INCREMENT FINANCED AND I ANSWERED SIMPLY YES. I THINK THE ANSWER IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. WE WERE GOOGLING OUR TIF LAWS, WE DON'T OFTEN DO RESIDENTIAL TIFS, SO IT'S NOT A PRACTICE THING LIKE PRCEL TIFS AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.

THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE DONE THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER IS THE HEIGHTS. THERE IS SOME COMPLEXITY TO IT, WE WOULD NEED TO RESEARCH. IT IVOLVES DECLARING BLIGHT.

AND ALSO SOMETIMES INCLUDES COMPENSATION AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES.

I CONVOLUTED MY YES. >> AND IF I COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION, I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES.

I THINK MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS A WONDERFUL THING TO TIF, BECAUSE UNLIKE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ONE DAY THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS C, AND THEN IT GETS BUILT IN SIX-TEN MONTHS AND THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS S. AND THAT INCREASE IN VALUE GETS CAPTURED IN THE TIF. NOW THE QUESTION IS, IS IT WORTH THE EXERCISE ON 32 UNITS. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT QUESTION. A TIF OF THAT SIZE IS NOT LIKELY TO GENERATE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIF PILOTS, PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES TO THE CITY. BUT I SEE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS GET TIF'D ALL THE TIME.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE W.B.C.1 DEFINITION, IT READS MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS ALLOWED PER ACRE OF DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE 14. WITH A DESIRED NUMBER BETWEEN 10-14. DESIRED NUMBER BETWEEN 10-14.

THAT'S A MAX. IT'S A SHALL.

THOSE WORDS ARE PRETTY CLEAR TO ME.

THIS RMINDS ME ALMOST OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH REGARD TO SOLAR PANELS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE, AS COUNCIL, MY COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED, NOT TO YOU, SIR, BUT TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE. THE QUESTION TO ME, WAS THE OVERLAY, WAS IT GUARDRAILS? IS IT PAINTED DASHED LINES ON THE HIGHWAY MEANT TO B PASSED OVER, OR IS IT SOMETHING IN BETWEEN? I DON'T THINK WE, AS COUNCIL, HAVE FULLY DEFINED WHAT WE MEANT IN THE SAME WAY WE DID SAY WTH THE SOLAR PANELS, AS TO HOW FLEXIBLE WE WANT TO BE.

BUT WORDS LIKE MAXIMUM AND SMALL, TO ME, DON'T LEAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.

SO THE PRIMARY QUESTION, WHAT DOES THIS ADD TO THE COMMUNITY TO JUSTIFY THE EXCEPTION? IF YOU WILL BEAR WITH ME HERE FOR A MINUTE. I WENT OUT FOR A DRIVE SUNDAY.

AND I NOTICED AS I LEFT MY HOME, ICOULDN'T GO FOUR HOUSES WITHOUT IS PAING A SIGN OUT FOR ISSUES 9 AND 10.

AND I THINK OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE VOTERS HERE. NOW, IF THIS WEREN'T THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS BEEN TESTED, MAYBE I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER THREE VARIANCE ISSUES, TREES AND DRIVEWAYS AND SUCH. BUT I DROVE OVER TO LINWORTH AND TE DISTRICT AT LINWORTH AND I DROVE BY THE HEIGHTS AND

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I GET UP TO CROSS WOODS AND I SEE STAFFORD HOUSE AND NORTH GATE CROSSING AND THE HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS THAT HAVE GONE IN HERE. AND I PASS BY LINCOLN POINT, DON KENNY DEVELOPMENT. AND OUT FRONT THEY HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS, AND I QUOTE, TOP-NOTCH WORTHINGTON SCHOOLS.

SO HERE WE ARE FACED WITH ISSUES 9 AND 10 AND THEIR SCHOOLS AND THEIR QUOTE ON THEIR BILLBOARD IS THEIR SCHOOLS NEED US NOW. THE LAST FIVE YEARS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CITES ITS ADDED 1,000 STUDENTS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

IT'S DUE TO ADD ANOTHER 800-1,000 IN THE NEXT FIVE, I BELIEVE. I THINK WE NEED A DIALOGUE WITH THE SCHOOL BEFORE WE EXACERBATE THIS ISSUE.

IS FOUR UNITS GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK THE WORLD? NO. BUT TO THE ARGUMENT, AND I HEARD FROM MR. BROWN THE HEIGHTS ONLY ADDED A LIMITED NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE WORTHINGTON SCHOOL SYSTEM BUT I HAVE STUDIES FROM RECENT TIMES THAT SHOW THE AVERAGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, NEW COMPLEX, IS GOING TO BRING ABOUT 21%, EITHER MARRIED COUPLES WITH CHILDREN OR SINGLE PARENTS.

THE HEIGHTS WAS AN OUTLIER AND AN ANOMALY, IT DOESN'T FIT WITH WHAT WE ARE SEEING NATIONALLY. IT TROUBLES ME TO THINK WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR FIRST REVIEW OF AN ISSUE UNDER THE NEW OVERLAY, COMING OUT OF THE GATE, THAT, YEAH, WE DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT. IT SAID DESIRE 10-14.

MAX OF 14. WE WERE ONLY FOOLING.

16 IS FINE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL, BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT PATH WITH ANY PROJECT BE A LITTLE MORE JUDICIOUS IN IDENTIFYING

EXACTLY WHAT THE GUARDRAILS ARE. >> DEPENDING ON WHICH DATE YOU USE, THIS IS EITHER SEVEN OR THREE YEARS WORTH OF WORK.

THIS PROJECT IN THE MAKING. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR STUDY TWICE NOW. THE LATEST INCARNATION, WHICH GAVE RISE TO THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, THE ZONING MAP WAS LARGELY CITIZEN-DRIVEN. THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER WAS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY COMPRISED OF AFFECTED PERSONS. COUNCIL THEN ADOPTED IT AND IN FACT, COUNCIL -- I THINK AGAINST THE BETTER WISHES OF STAFF, PROACTIVELY REZONED THESE PROPERTIES.

AND THERE WAS A VERY GOOD REASON FOR PROACTIVELY REZONING THESE PROPERTIES. I THINK WE KNOW WHY, WE WERE AFRAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY CREEP.

THE PLAN FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITIZENS AND ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL WAS TO PUT MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON THESE TWO PARCELS AND ATUALLY THE PARCELS FURTHER TO THE EAST. SO THAT'S, IN MY MIND, THAT'S BEEN DECIDED. WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE APARTMENTS HERE. THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL, AFTER SEVEN YEARS OF STUDY, AFTER TREMENDOUS CITIZEN INPUT. THERE WS ONE PERSON THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS WHO OBJECTED.

HE IS HERE THIS EVENING. HE WAS ACTUALLY, THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO ADDITIONAL SCREENING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO FURTHER BUFFER HIS PROPERTY. WE HAD CITIZENS WHO ACTUALLY EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THIS. THIS IS A CITIZEN-DRIVEN, CITIZEN-APPROVED, COUNCIL-ADOPTED PROJECT.

SO THE DISCUSSION WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE APARTMENTS OR NOT

HAVE APARTMENTS -- >> THAT WAS NEVER MY POINT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT NUMBER OF UNITS.

DENSITY OVER 14. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT ZONING. THE IDEA OF ZONING FOR AESTHETICS ISN'T IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS DESIGNED TO CREATE RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONES.

YOU DIDN'T WANT THE SMELTING PLANT NEXT TO THE HOUSE.

THAT IS ORIGINALLY THE IDEA BEHIND ZONING.

IT'S THEN BEEN REFINED AND LITIGATED EXTENSIVELY AS TO HOW FAR WE ARE ALLOWED TO DEFINE IT. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE NOTION, AS WAS EXPRESSED BY THE APPLICANT, THAT WHEN YOU GET

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FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT CORE CONCEPT OF ZONING, IT GETS, BY IT'S VERY NATURE MUCH MORE FLUID.

SO IT BECOMES A NEGOTIATION. AND I LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE GTTING AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR FUTURE TRAIL.

WE ARE GETTING BIKE RACKS. WE ARE GETTING BENCHES.

WE ARE GETTING THE ONE THING THAT THE CITIZENS TO THE SOUTH WANTED THE MOST, WAS A 50-FOOT SETBACK, WE ARE GETTING THAT.

WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING A FENCE AND A 50-FOOT SETBACK AND MORE SCREENING. WE ARE GETTING A 75-FOOT CURB CUT WHICH WAS ACTUALLY AT THE RECOMMENDATION, I BELIEVE, OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO THEY GET THE LADDER TRUCK IN.

SO THAT'S NOT EVEN THE DEVELOPER'S VARIANCE.

AND REALLY, IN THE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON A.P.C. AND A.R.B., DENSITY AND VARIANCES ARE TYPICALLY THE LAST THING THAT COMES UP. WE LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IF WE GET A QUALITY PRODUCT, THAT IS GOING TO DRIVE THOSE OTHER NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE A HIGHER RENT FOR A QUALITY PROJECT WHICH WILL REDUCE THE DENSITY. THE FIRST DEVELOPER THAT CAME IN AND WANTED TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, IT WAS 22-24 UNITS PER ACRE. IT WAS ALUMINUM SIDING, IT WAS PRESSURE TREATED WOOD STEPS, IT WAS VINYL WINDOWS.

VERY LITTLE LANDSCAPING. PRETTY MUCH CLEAR-CUT.

AND HE WANTED A 100% ABATEMENT. WHAT WE GOT NOW, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC AMENITIES, IN ADDITION TO THE SCREENING, IN ADDITION TO THE SETBACK, W GET SEMITICIOUS PRODUCTS, PLANK IS MORE HEARTY THAN VINYL SIDING. WE ARE GETTING A QUALITY PRODUCT AND THAT COSTS MONEY. WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SITS DOWN WITH US AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF A PROCESS, I SAID YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH COUNT ON THE FACT YOUR PROJECT WILL TAKE TWICE AS LONG AND COST TWICE AS MUCH IF YOU ARE BUILDING IT IN WORTHINGTON. BECAUSE WE DEMAND A BETTER PRODUCT. WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO GET THAT PRODUCT TO GIVE UP SOMETHING.

THIS DEVELOPER ASKED FOR TWO THINGS.

HE ASKED FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL UNITS AND A WAIVER OF THE TREE FEE. I THINK THAT IS A FAIRLY INSIGNIFICANT GIVE, GIVEN WHAT WE ARE GETTING BACK IN RETURN ON A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE CITIZENS WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED. WHEN IT COMES TO THE DUNCAN FACTORS AND WHETHER WE ARE FORCED TO, I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THE APPLICANT JUST BECAUSE I'M ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO THINK I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT TO DO. BUT ONE OF THE LINES I FIND INTRIGUING FROM DNCAN IS THE STANDARD FOR GRANTING A ZONING VARIANCE THAT RELATES SOLELY TO AREA REQUIREMENTS.

WHICH MEANS, THE ZONE ITSELF. SHOULD BE A LESSER STANDARD THAN THAT APPLY TO STANDARDS THAT RELATE TO USE.

IF HE WERE GOING TO PUT A DAYCARE CENTER HERE, THAT WOULDN'T EVEN BE A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A VARIANCE USE. THAT GETS A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD. THE COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED THIS IS A MORE RELAXED STANDARD. AND I THINK HE FITS THE STANDARD FROM DUNCAN. AND I THINK THERE ARE APPROPRIATE VARIANCES WE WILL GET A QUALITY PRODUCT, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR ALL ALONG, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY THE CITIZENS. I DON'T SEE WHERE WE ARE TO

OBJECT. >> D. ROBINSON: IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION.

I THINK YOUR COMMENT THAT DENSITY IS THE LAST THING CONSIDERED PROBABLY GETS TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER.

THREE YEARS AGO, TO ME, IT'S A QUESTION WHO DO WE SERVE? DO WE SERVE THE BUILDERS? OUR OWN PERSONAL INDIVIDUAL AGENDAS AS COUNCILORS OR THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED US. THREE YEARS AGO THE MESSAGE WAS CLEAR, ISSUE 38 ABOUT DENSITY AND DRIVEN BY 400-UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING GOT MRE VOTES THAN ANYBODY IN THIS LAST

ELECTION LAST FALL. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT'S

APPLES AND ORANGES. >> D. FOUST: NO IT ISN'T.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR FIRST ACT ON THIS TURN OUT TO BE A

VARIATION ON DENSITY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I GUESS PART OF WHERE I'M COMING, FOUR UNITS ISN'T A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DENSITY. AND FOUR UNITS ISN'T GOING TO

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MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE WORTHINGTON SCHOOLS.

EVEN IF ALL FOUR UNITS HAD A COUPLE KIDS IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

SO PART OF THAT -- AND I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROJECT WITH ISSUE 38 WAS DIVEN, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PARCEL OF PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THIS PARTICULAR WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR HAVE COME OUT, THEY HAVE WALKED. THEY HAVE MET, THEY HAVE AGREED AND HAVE SUPPORTED. AND SO THEY HAVE NOT BEEN OPPOSED TO THE DENSITY FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF DENSITY

DIFFERENCE WHERE THEY ARE. >> D. FOUST: ALL GOOD POINTS.

I AGREE WITH ALL OF IT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS GO FORWARD JUST WITHIN THE DENSITY GUIDELINES WE LAID OUT.

>> D. ROBINSON: MADAM PRESIDENT, ONE MORE COMMENT.

FOR THE RECORD, MY RESEARCH TELLS ME THAT, IN FCT, DENSITY WAS AT THE VERY HEART OF THE EMERGENCE OF ZONING LAWS IN THE UNITED STATES. THE FIRST ZONING CONFLICT I LEGISLATION, I BELIEVE EMERGED OUT OF BROOKLYN WHERE SOMEONE WANTED TO BUILD A 40-STORY SKYSCRAPER IN A BROWN STONE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT IS WHERE ZONING FIRST EMERGED IN THE UITED STATES, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DENSITY.

MY ISSUE WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS WITH THE VARIANCES PARTICULARLY, THE DENSITY ONE IS THE PRECEDENT IT SETS.

I DO NOT SEE HOW WHEN A FUTURE DEVELOPER COMES BEFORE A.R.B., M.P.C. AND US, ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, HOW WE CAN SAY NO.

IT SEEMS TO ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT THAT THEREFORE MAKES THE CODE BUILDING IN A 14% OR 25% VARIABILITY.

14% IS THE 2-UNIT INCREASE INCIDENTALLY.

SECONDLY, TO ME, THE VARIANCE INTRODUCES ISSUES BETWEEN ME AND STAFF, AND MAYBE STAFF AND COUNCIL IN GENERAL.

IF YOU COME TO US IN THE FUTURE REQUESTING A REZONING, ARE WE TO ASSUME THERE WILL BE A BUILT-IN NEED FOR VARIANCES? SHOULD I ASSUME THAT TEN REALLY MEANS 12 AND SO ON? I DON'T THINK THAT'S A HEALTHY DYNAMIC.

THIRD AND LASTLY AND I WOULD SAY MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC WITH THE RELATIONSHIP OF OUR RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY IN THIS SENSE. IF TEY APPEAR BEFORE A.R.P., M.P.C. ASKING FOR A VARIANCE AND WE DENY IT AND THEY CLAIM FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, WHICH, FRANKLY IS HOW I INTERPRET THE REQUEST FOR 16 UNITS INSTEAD OF 14.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FINANCIAL ARGUMENT.

THAT THE DEAL CAN'T BE DONE, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE, DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE, SO IT'S REALLY A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP ARGUMENT. IF WE LISTEN TO THAT AND GRANT A VARIANCE FOR A DEVELOPER BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, HOW DO WE DENY THAT TO A RESIDENT.

A YEAR AGO A GENTLEMAN BOUGHT A HOME ON 161, WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN AND PUT IN A SCHUMACHER HOME.

CAME BEFORE A.P.R., M.P.C., IT WAS DENIED AND HE WAS TOLD TO COME BACK WITH A CUSTOM BUILT HOME THAT WOULD COST HIM 20% MORE. WHAT IF HE SAID I CAN'T AFFORD THAT, THERE'S A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, WHY CN'T YOU GIVE ME SUCH A VARIANCE. WHY CAN WE GIVE SUCH A VARIANCE TO A DEVELOPER BUT NOT A RESIDENT?

TO ME, THAT SEEMS BACKWARDS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MYERS, FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SERVED ON A.P.C.

MY UNDERSTANDING WTH THE VARIANCES THEY ARE PROJECT-SPECIFIC AND THERE ARE VARIANCES THAT ARE APPROVED AND

VARIANCES NOT APPROVED. >> D. ROBINSON: FIRST, M.P.C.

DOESN'T APPROVE VARIANCES. COUNCIL AND B.Z.A. APPROVE VARIANCES. I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A REQUEST FOR REZONING. THERE'S NO REQUEST FOR REZONING HERE, THIS WAS A COUNCIL-INITIATED REZONING TO MULTIFAMILY UNITS, SO WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT IN THERE. 161 PROPERTY CAME BACK, HE WAS DIRECTED, NOTHING WAS DENIED THERE.

AND MOST OF THE VARIANCES THAT ARE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM I WILL USE IT GENERICALLY, DENIED, WE NEVER SEE, IT'S THE PROPERTY THAT WANTED TO PUT IN 24 UNITS.

THAT GETS CUT OFF. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S STAFF TELLING THEM, OR IF A MEMBER OF M.P.C. MEETS WITH THEM, OR THEY

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HAVE COFFEE WITH ME, WE LET THEM KNOW RIGHT UP FRONT, THAT WON'T FLY. WE THINK THIS YOU COULD TRY, BUT 22 ISN'T GOING TO FLY. SO MOST DENIALS NEVER GET THIS FAR. AS TO RESIDENCES, IF YOU LIVED ON MY BLOCK YOU COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT VARIANCES.

THREE YEARS AGO WE PUT A PORCH WHICH EXPONENTIALLY INCREASED THE VALUE OF MY HOME, I NEEDED A VARIANCE.

EVERY HOUSE ON MY BLOCK VIOLATES THE SETBACK AS IT SITS.

WE WERE GRANDFATHERED IN BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO YOUR HOUSE YOU NEED A VARIANCE. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST VARIANCE GRANTED BY B.Z.A. CORRECT ME I I'M WRONG, IS REAR SETBACKS FOR SHEDS. THEY ARE FAIRLY UNIVERSALLY APPROVED. IT'S PRETTY RARE THAT A RESIDENT DOESN'T GET HIS VARIANCE APPROVED BECAUSE OF THIS IDEA THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE COST TO A RESIDENT IF THE NEIGHBORS THINK IT'S OKAY.

AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT, IF WE, IF M.P.C. WILL RECOMMEND IT, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL HEAR FIRST, ARE THE OTHER RESIDENTS OKAY WITH THIS. THEY HEARD THE RESIDENTS ARE OKAY WITH THIS, THAT CARRIES A GREAT DEAL OF WEIGHT.

IT CERTAINLY DOES, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ELECTED ME.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY HERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? YOU HAVE BEEN VERY QUIET, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK. MR. SMITH?

>> D. SMITH: SOMETHING THAT KEEPS STICKING WITH ME, I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO IWLL THROW IT OUT THERE AS REGURGITATION, THE DUNCAN FACTOR. THE INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THIS ZONING, COULD YOU BRING THE SLIDE UP WITH THE DIFFERENT COLORED ZONINGS? I SAID THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THIS WHOLE IDEA, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A VERY PROMINENT NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER YEARS.

AND WE ARE SEEING THAT NEED MORE NOW THAT OUR BABY BOOMERS ARE GETTING OLDER. OUR EMPTY NESTORS ARE TRYING TO DOWN SIZE. THAT NEED IS SINGLE FLOOR LIVING SPACE. THIS CORRIDOR, SPECIFICALLY THE REZONED PORTION FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WAS ALL ALONG THE INTENT TO HAVE SINGLE FLOOR LIVING SPACE.

WHETHER THAT BE A COUPLE DIFFERENT ENCLAVES OF DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER IT BE PATIO HOMES, APARTMENTS WITH ELEVATORS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT IT WAS NEVER THE INTENT OR THE SPIRIT OF TIS ZONE TO HAVE APARTMENTS.

I JUST CAN'T GET PAST THAT. >> D. ROBINSON: THAT'S WHAT WE ZONED IT FOR. 10-14 UNITS.

THAT'S APARTMENTS. WE GET 16 OF THEM HERE.

>> D. SMITH: EXACTLY. >> R. DOROTHY: IN THE HISTORY OF HUMAN KIND, WE DIDN'T HAVE ZONING, WE HAVE APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT OLDER AREAS IN HISTORY, THAT WE HAVE MULTI-USE, MIXED-USE ZONING AND ALL OVER EUROPE, PARIS IS THE DENSEST CITY IN THE WORLD AND PEOPLE LOVE IT BECAUSE IT HAS MIXED USE AREA ALL OVER WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT HOUSING AND RETAIL AND PEOPLE FINANCE ALL SORTS OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AND HAVE A COMMUNITY BUILT AROUND.

AND I DO THINK OUR ZONING IS A BIT OUT OF WHACK HERE IN THE UNITED SATES, THAT WE HAVE SO MANY SINGLE USE ZONING.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT WE ARE GETTING BACK TO OUR DOWNTOWN CORE WHERE WE HAVE MIXED USE AND WE ARE LOOKING FR MORE MIXED USE OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK GIVING MORE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME INTO WORTHINGTON, OR STAY IN WORTHINGTON IN THESE DIFFERENT HOUSING SCENARIOS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR WORTHINGTON. I THINK PEOPLE OF ALL AGES SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE IN WORTHINGTON AND PEOPLE ARE DESPERATELY LOOKING TO COME TO WORTHINGTON OR STAY IN

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WORTHINGTON IF THEY HAVE A PLACE THEY WANT TO DOWN SIZE AND THEN HAVE A PLACE TO MOVE INTO OR GET INTO, IF THEY ARE PART OF FAMILY AND THEY WANT TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE CLOSE BY.

I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE WANTED HERE. AND I THINK WE WANT, I WANT MORE MIXED USE IN A VARIETY OF MANNERS, I THINK THIS IS A

GREAT PLACE TO START. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK A LOT OF US ARE REPEATING I THINK A LOT OF THINGS IN A CIRCLE, I WILL TRY TO BRING US TO A STRAIGHT LINE.

I WILL TAKE THE DIFFERENT VARIANCES AND SEE IF WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME. WHAT I'M HEARING IS NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DRIVEWAY.

DRIVEWAY VARIANCE. OKAY.

KIND OF GUESSING THIS. TO PERMIT THE BUILDING TO BE CLOSER THAN 50 FEET. THE 50-FOOT SETBACK.

IS THAT ANYBODY HAVING ANYTHING? I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING ON THAT? THE TREES.

IS THERE ANY BIG ISSUE ON THE TREES WE ARE HAVING?

MR. SMITH? >> D. SMITH: YES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING REGARDING THE TREES AND THE TREE ORDINANCE?

>> D. SMITH: IF I'M ALLOWED TO SUGGEST AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE MANDATE AS PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENT, IF IT GOES THROUGH SOME SORT OF FEE OR IF THEY PREFER A DONATION TO THE PARKS FOUNDATION OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE A "PARKS FOUNDATION" IN WORTHINGTON. PEOPLE CAN DONATE TO THE CITY IN GENERAL, THEY PUT INTO A SEPARATE FUND.

BUT WE HAVE NOT CREATED A WORTHINGTON PARKS FOUNDATION.

>> D. SMITH: THE MECHANISM I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT YEARS AGO WAS SOME WAY FOR THEM TO GET A TAX DEDUCTION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> CLERK: I HATE WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THIS. MOVING ONTO THE FINANCIAL

[7.A.I. Financial Report - September 2018]

REPORT. MR. GREESON?

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE ALWAYS

HUMOROUS MR. SCOTT BARTTER. >> YOU HAVE THE SEPTEMBER FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE FUND BALANCES INCREASED $26,936,378 JULY 1ST 2018 $32 MILLION -- IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS INTO THE RECORD.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? NICE AND SUCCINCT REPORT.

[7.A.II. Proposed 2019-2023 Capital Improvements Program]

MR. GREESON, MOVING ONTO THE PROPOSED C.I.P.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU JUST SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DO IN THIS COMMUNITY. NOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE AS THE CITY GOVERNMENT WILL DO TO IMPROVE THIS COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS THROUGH CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. STEWART.

SHE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A POWERPOINT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED IN YOUR PACKET AND IT WILL COVER HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE

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PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR 2019-2023, A FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO.

>> WE INCLUDED THE PRESENTATION GOALS FOR THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION PACKET THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS HOW WE GET TO THE C.I.P. DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY APPROVAL OF THE C.I.P. THE CAPITAL PLAN, WE BEGIN TALKING ABOUT THAT IN JULY, WE TALK TO YOU BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AUGUST RECESS TO DISCUSS ANY PRIORITIES OR OBJECTIVES YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO KEEP MANY MIND AS WE LAUNCH THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE PROPOSED DOCUMENT. ADVISORY BOARD AND OTHER GROUPS THAT STAFF INTERACTS WITH, SO THOSE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. WE UPGRADE OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND EQUIPMENT TO SEE WHAT MIGHT NEED REPLACEMENT OR REINVESTMENT IN THOSE AREAS. THAT GETS BOILED DOWN TO SUBMITTALS EACH DEPARTMENT MAKES FOR THE AREAS WHERE THEY PROVIDE SERVICES AND THOSE REQUESTS WERE EVALUATED AND PRIORITIZED IN SEPTEMBER AND WE TRIED TO BALANCE ANY EXPENDITURES WITH PROJECTED REVENUE FOR THE CAPITAL FUND.

WE ARE NW IN OCTOBER WHERE WE PRESENT THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR COUNCIL AND BEGIN TO WORKSHOP IT WITH YOU.

THIS IS REALLY JUST TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PLAN, IDENTIFY ANY FOLLOW-UP ITEMS YOU WANT TO HAVE BROUGHT BACK IN NOVEMBER, AND ULTIMATELY WORK TOWARD ADOPTION IN DECEMBER TAT'S TYPICALLY SLATED FOR AVOTE AT THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL TRENDS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WITH THE C.I.P.

YOU WILL SEE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED PLAN INVEST IN OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, EXISTING EQUIPMENT AS WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN AND KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND UTILIZE.

WE HAVE IN THIS FIVE-YEAR PLAN THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CENTER AND RENOVATION OF THE POLICE STATION, SO THIS DEBT WILL MAKE THE LAST PAYMENT IN THE YEAR 2021, SO YOU SEE THAT IN OUR DEBT PICTURE, OUR DEBT DROPS A LTTLE BIT IN TERMS OF PAYMENTS ON IT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NEW DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, BAND-AIDED SEWER PROJECTS AS WELL AS OTHER PROJECTS THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED, SO WE ARE ADING TO OUR DEBT, SO WHILE SOME OF THE DEBT PAYMENTS DROP OFF WTH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND POLICE STATION, WE DO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL DEBT SO THAT SOMEWHAT OFFSETS SOME OF THOSE PAYMENTS.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGE OF THE CITY'S BUILDINGS. THIS SLIDE, YOU SAW LAST WEEK IN OUR BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE C.I.P.

SO I DIDN'T INTEND TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN BUT IT GIVES THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT INVESTING IN FOR PROJECTS AND EQUIPMENT OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

WE LIKE TO LOOK HOW MUCH WE LEVERAGE CITY DOLLARS AND ACCESS OTHER FUNDING FROM OTHER ENTITIES WHETHER FEDERAL FUNDING, STATE FUNDING, GRANT FUNDING, AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE LINE FOR THE PERCENT OF THE OVERALL EXPENDITURES IN THE

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C.I.P. AND HOW MUCH IS THE CITY'S SHARE.

YOU SEE 2019 IS QUITE LOW COMPARED TO THE OTHER YEARS AND THAT'S DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT AND OTHER ITEMS FOR FUNDING ELSEWHERE REFLECTED IN THE C.I.P., WE WILL PURSUE A GRANT FOR THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS. IN 2020 WE ANTICIPATE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FROM GRANT SOURCES, PERHAPS STATE SOURCES FROM MCCORD PARK AND IN 2021 LICENSE TAX REVENUE IS FOR ARTERIAL AND PORTION OF HUNTLY. 2022 AND 23 DON'T SHOW MANY EXTERNAL SOURCES BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IF THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES THERE. REVENUE SOURCES WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK. SO I WAS GOING TO SKIP BY THE TRENDS WITH THE REVENUE SOURCES. WE HAD A COUPLE SLIDES IN FR OUR EXPENDITURES ACROSS THE 5-YEAR PERIOD.

FOR OUR VARIOUS AREAS OF EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES.

I WILL SKIP BY THESE BECAUSE WE HAVE TREND LINES LATER IN THE PRESENTATION I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS INSTEAD.

SO THIS SLIDE LOOKS AT REVENUE TO EXPENDITURES COMING FOR THE C.I.P. FUND. YOU WILL SEE THIS SLIDE AND I HAVE A COMPANION SLIDE AFTER THIS ONE, THEY SHOW A SIMILAR PICTURE BUT THIS INCLUDES THE BOND PROCEEDS AND BOND EXPENDITURES. YOU COULD SEE SOME SPIKES IN CHANGES IN REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES BECAUSE OF IMPACT OF THOSE BOND PROCEEDS AND EXPENDITURES COMING IN AND OUT OF THE FUND. WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE BOND INFORMATION YOU SEE OUR REVENUE EXPENDITURES ARE PRETTY WELL ALIGNED. THE LINES ARE VIRTUALLY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER FOR THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF THE PROPOSED PLAN.

NOW WE GET TO THE SLIDES WHERE I SAID WE WOULD HAVE TREND LINES FOR THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF EXPENDITURES FOR THE C.I.P. SO PROJECTS AND EQUIPMENT ARE THE TWO CATEGORIES WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS PRESENTATION. WE ALSO HAVE PAYMENTS ON OUR DEBT SERVICE. SO PAYMENTS FOR BONDS, OR LEASES THAT WE HAVE ENTERED INTO, AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES. THOSE RELATE TO THE COST OF COLLECTING INCOME TAX REVENUES THAT COME INTO THE CAPITAL FUND AND ANY OTHER INSURANCE, LEGAL SERVICES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAPITAL FUND. SO YOU SEE HERE, THIS INCLUDES ALL THE BONDED PROCEEDS AND EXPENDITURES.

YOU SEE THE PROJECTS LINE IS QUITE HIGH IN 2019 '20 AND '21 NORTHEAST GATEWAY AND SEWER PROJECTS.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR C.I.P. BUT DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT APPROXIMATELY THAT DEBT SERVICE GOES OUT? ARE THOSE 20-30 YEAR BONDS? I MEAN, IT'S A VARIETY OF BONDS, BUT, DO WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF THEM WHEN THEY WILL

SUNSET? >> WE KNOW ALL.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME WE HAVE YET TO ISSUE.

........ >> WE KNOW WHEN ALL WILL SUNSET.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEASE FOR THE RADIOS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK WHEN YOU PULL THOSE OUT, THE CASH FLOWING YOU CAN SEE THE INVESTMENT IN THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE.

DEBT PAYMENTS, FOLLOWED BY EQUIPMENT AND ADMINISTRATIVE

EXPENSES. >> D. SMITH: SOMETHING MS. DOROTHY ASKED EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT OR FORECASTING 25 YEARS OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK MORE CORE T THE POINT DO WE EVER SET ASIDE FUNDS FOR BIGGER, FIRE TRUCK FOR EXAMPLE, DO WE EVER SET ASIDE LIKE $100,000, INTERNALLY AND IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE OR WE JUST DON'T DO THAT?

>> WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR RECENT YEARS.

WE HAVE ON THE FLIP SIDE USED BONDING OR LEASES TO TRY TO LEVEL OUT THOSE EXPENDITURES BUT IT'S AFTER THE PURCHASE WHERE WE HAVE FINANCING COST AS OPPOSED TO DIVERTING THE FUNDS IN ADVANCE TO STORE THEM UP. SOMETIMES IF WE HAVE PROJECT

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THAT'S COULD BE SPREAD ACROSS SEVERAL YEARS AND PAY CASH FOR THEM, WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER PARKING LOT, SPREAD THOSE EXPENSES BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, WE CAN DO PART OF THE PARKING LOT ONE YEAR AND ANOTHER PART ANOTHER YEAR, TO AVOID A BIG SPIKE WE HAVE JUST DIVIDED UP THE PROJECT. WE HAVE USED THOSE TYPE OF STRATEGIES BUT IN RECENT YEARS NOT WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

>> D. ROBINSON: TO HELP ME GET ORIENTED TO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SAY THE TOP LINE ITEM ON PAGE 9, WHICH IS TOTAL COST UNDER CITY SHARE PROPOSED C.I.P. AND THE NUMBERS ARE AOUND, LET'S SAY $4 MILLION. IT'S ABOUT $6 MILLION.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TOTALS?

>> WHICH PAGE NUMBERS? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE PRESENTATION? I PULLED MY C.I.P. DOCUMENT BUT

THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE LINING UP. >> D. ROBINSON: THE NUMBERS 9 SAY FOR 2022 ARE $ MILLION BUT THEN IF YOU GO TO PAGE 16, LOOKING AT EXPENDITURES OF 5.8 MILLION.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WITH THE

TWO NUMBER SETS. >> I NEED TO PULL THAT UP.

I PRINTED MY PRESENTATIONS DIFFERENTLY, SO I DON'T HAVE

THE SAME PAGE NUMBERS YOU HAVE. >> D. ROBINSON: I CAN GET YOU THE HARD COPIES IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> YOU GOT TO PULL OUT THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY COST AND CANYON BROOK SEWER COSTS AND SO FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND THEN -- >> D. ROBINSON:

>> 16 EXCLUDES BONDS. SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THEM.

>> D. ROBINSON: WHY WOULD THE UNBONDED BE A LARGER NUMBER

THAN THE BONDED? >> WHICH NUMBER ARE YOU LOOKING

AT THAT YOU SAID IS LARGER? >> D. ROBINSON: 2022-

ON PAGE 16. >> BECAUSE 9 ONLY INCLUDES PROJECT AND EQUIPMENT EXPENDITURES AD 16 ASO INCLUDES DEBT SERVICE AND ADMINISTRATION.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE LOOKED AT THESE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST SLIDES THAT LOOK AT OUR FUND BALANCE TARGET AND HOW WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF MEETING THAT TARGET.

SO IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM ON THOSE, BUT I WASN'T GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THEM SINCE WE TOUCHED ON THEM LAST WEEK.

THESE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED BY CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THEY WERE NOT BROUGHT UP THIS JULY BUT INCLUDED REPORTING BECAUSE THEY WERE RAISED LAST YEAR. I WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T NEW ITEMS IDENTIFIED BY CITY COUNCIL BUT WE WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE HAVE RELATED TO THOSE PRIORITIES LAST YEAR.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WAS THE HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THAT PLAN.

>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.

THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF DID THEIR WORK IN REVIEWING EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR SUBMITTAL. THESE WERE THE ITEMS PROPOSED.

IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE SOME THINGS WERE PUSHED OR SLIPPED IN THE NUMBERS BALANCING. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

>> YES, AS YOU RECALL, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, THERE WERE A PRIORITY LIST OF ITEMS AND THOSE DO INCLUDE THOSE, YES.

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>> THERE WERE A NUMBER OF UNCERTAINTIES STILL RELATED TO THIS FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM. JUST ITEMS WE DON'T HAVE FULL INFORMATION AND SO ARE NOT FULLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THIS PROPOSED PLAN. FIRST WE KNOW WITH THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED TO OCCUR SOONER THAN THE CURRENT SCHEDULE FOR RECEIVING THE FEDERAL FUNDS. SO WE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME SHORT-TERM FINANCING TO ENABLE US TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT AND LATER BE REIMBURSED OR PAY OFF THAT SHORT-TERM FINANCING WHEN THE FEDERAL FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE.

THERE MAY BE AN INTEREST COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THE PROPOSED SOURCE WOULD BE THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, OR S.I.B. LOAN. THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT TIMING WILL WORK AND HOW THE FUNDS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THIS C.I.P.

WE MY HAVE ADDITIONAL FINANCING COSTS WITH THE GATEWAY NOT SHOWN IN THIS PLAN. WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK AND CITY COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED THE EVALUATION AND PLANNED FACILITY INVESTMENTS AT SWIM INC IS DISCUSSING THE OUTDOOR POOL FACILITY. WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC FUNDING REQUEST MADE TO THE CITY AT THIS POINT.

WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT AND THAT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS PROPOSED PLAN. WE ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF CONSOLIDATED OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHING AND 9-1-1 ANSWERING CENTER WITH THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER OPERATED BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THAT EVALUATION BUT DEPENDING ON WHETHER THAT CONSOLIDATION OCCURS OR DOESN'T OCCUR THERE MAY BE IMPACTS ON THE C.I.P. WE ALSO ARE SHOWING A GRANT FOR SELF CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS FOR THE FIRE DIVISION.

WE HAVE NOT -- WE DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF THAT GRANT PROCESS YET. SO WE WILL NEED TO APPLY AND AWAIT THE RESULTS OF THAT PROCESS THAT IS COMPETITIVE.

THE PROPOSED C.I.P. IS REFLECTING GRANT FUNDING.

IF WE DO NOT RECEIVE IT, WE WILL HAVE TO FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO PROCEED WITH THE ACQUISITION OF THE APPARATUS.

MCCORD PARK FUNDING IS ALSO SHOWN FOR SIGNIFICANT EXTERNAL FUNDING. THAT PROCESS WILL STILL NEED TO PLAY OUT AND WE WILL NEED TO SEE IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN WE HAVE IN THE PROPOSED 2019 OPERATING BUDGET SOME FUNDING FOR EVALUATION AND ASSESSMENT OF OUR WATER LINES AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS DEPENDING ON THE RESULTS OF TAT ASSESSMENT WE MAY NEED TO INCORPORATE INVESTMENTS IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN THE C.I.P. WE HAVE PROPOSED FUNDING FOR FOUR YEARS FOR WATER LINES, HOWEVER, THE ASSESSMENT WILL INFORM US AS TO

WHETHER THAT IS SUFFICIENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WANT TO RUN THROUGH THIS SLIDE REAL FAST.

THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY IS INTERSECTION WILSON BRIDGE, WORTHINGTON, GALLINA SANCAS. IT'S A HUGE PROJECT.

SWIM, INC, IT'S LOCATED, IT'S THE WORTHINGTON POOLS.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT RENOVATING THE POOLS AND THEY WILL PROBABLY COME AND ASK FOR SOME FUNDING HELP.

THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH WE ARE LOOKING AT CONSOLIDATING OUR DISPATCHING UNITS WITH DUBLIN INTO A CONSOLIDATED DISPATCH PLACE IN DUBLIN SO ANY DISPATCH FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE WOULD BE COMING OT OF THIS CONSOLIDATED FACILITY.

AND SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUSES, BASICALLY YUR SCUBA TANKS USED BY FIREFIGHTERS WHEN THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FIRES. MCCORD PARK, REVAMPING THE PARK.

AND WATER LINES AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

YOU GOT THOSE. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. >> THE JULY DISCUSSION WITH CITY SO ITEMS THAT WERE DELAYED OR ELIMINATED. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO BALANCE BECAUSE THE REQUEST SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDED REVENUES AVAILABLE.

WE LOOKED AT MOVING SOME ITEMS INTO BONDING AND LEASING AWAY FROM CASH TO LEVEL OUT SOME EXPENDITURES.

PARTICULARLY THIS RELATES T LARGE ITEMS, LARGE COST PROJECTS. SOMETIMES WE REDUCE THE SCOPE OF PROJECTS TO TRY TO GET THE COSTS LOWER.

WE DELAYED ITEMS FROM THE YEAR WHICH THEY WERE ORIGINALLY

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REQUESTED, PARTICULARLY REQUESTED FOR FUNDING NEXT YEAR IN 2019, WERE DELAYED TO LATER YEARS.

STAND ALONE WERE INCORPORATED INTO ONGOING PROGRAMS WHERE THE CITY PROVIDES FUNDING EVERY YEAR AND SO THAT'S GOING TO CONSTRAIN ONGOING PROGRAMS, ONE EXAMPLE IS WINDOWS FOR THE GRISWOLD CENTER WERE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED AS A SEPARATE PROJECT.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVED TO THE ANNUAL BUILDING IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THAT'S GOING TO CONSTRAIN THAT PROGRAM, WE WILL HAVE LESS FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR ROUTINE INVESTMENTS IN THE BUILDING. WE MOVED ITEMS TO THE PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET, ASSESSMENT WATER LINES AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE MOVED AND WE DLETED SOME ITEMS, JUST DIDN'T FUND THEM. A DETAILED LIST OF THOSE ITEMS IS INCLUDED LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

THESE NEXT SLIDES INCLUDE DEBT INFORMATION.

IT IS LISTED IN YOUR DOCUMENT. SO I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT OUR EXISTING DEBT.

A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN ITEMS LISTED FOR FUTURE DEBT THAT WE WILL BE ADDING TO OUR DEBT FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN GETTING INTO PROJECTS. I WANT TO TOUCH ON PARTICULARLY 2019, SINCE THAT IS THE YEAR THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST OFFICIAL, FOR LACK OF ABETTER TERM, IN THE C.I.P.

BECAUSE EACH OF THE OTHER FOUR YEARS IN FUTURE YEARS WE UPDATE THE C.I.P. EVERY YEAR, BUT THE 2019 ONE IS REALLY THE PLAN THAT IS SET AND WON'T GET MUCH MORE DISCUSSION AFTER ITS ADOPTED. EXCEPT FOR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT COME BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF RECURRING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE C.I.P.

AND RECURRING EQUIPMENT THAT SHOWS UP EVERY YEAR, EVERY OTHER YEAR. BUT IN 2019 WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING FUNDED. I WILL TOUCH ON THE LARGER ONES.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CANYON BROOK TRUCK SEWER, THIS HAS BEEN UNDER DISCUSSION AND DESIGN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

CONSTRUCTION IS SLATED FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE ALSO HAVE ARTERIAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR EAST WILSON RIDGE ROAD. -- BRIDGE ROAD.

FIRST WE WILL TACKLE THE WATER LINE AND THEN OVERLAY THAT STRETCH OF ROAD. WE ARE STARTING AN ARTERIAL MICRO SURFACING PROGRAM YOU WILL SEE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2019. THIS WILL BE ADDRESSING THE SURFACE OF SOME OF OUR BETTER CONDITION, I MAY ASK FOR MR. WHITED TO HELP ME. STREETS THAT AREN'T REALLY OLD AND AT THE POINT OF OVERLAY, IF WE INVEST IN THEM NOW WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE BEFORE THEY NEED AN OVERLAY.

IT'S A LESS EXPENSIVE APPROACH TO STRETCH OUT THE TIMING FOR THE OVERLAY. MR. WHITED, DID YOU HAVE

ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? >> NO, THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION AS PART OF THE PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM TO SPEND OUR MNEY LONG-TERM FOR PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE AS OPPOSED TO REACTIVE MAINTENANCE WHEN IT BECOMES MUCH MORE COSTLY TO DO SO. THIS IS WORKUP NEAR THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY AND MUST OCCUR IN ORDER FOR THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED.

SO THOSE TWO PROJECTS ARE TIED TOGETHER.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT 2019 WITHOUT MENTIONING IT, SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN 2019, THOUGH IT'S A MULTI-YEAR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW. AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE SOME INVESTMENTS IN MCCORD PARK IN 2019.

ON THE EQUIPMENT SIDE, THE RADIOS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, WE ARE PROPOSING THEM FOR LEASE.

WE HAVE A MEDIC VEHICLE, WHICH IS A $300,000 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE WILL BE REPLACING NEXT YEAR AND YOU SEE THE SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS.

AT $300,000, WE ARE PROGRAMMING $250,000 OF GRANT PROCEEDS IN THE C.I.P. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT SMALLER IN DOLLAR AMOUNT AND FAIRLY ROUTINE.

THE SAME HERE ON THIS SLIDE. I ALSO INCLUDED SLIDES HIGHLIGHTS FOR EACH OF TE FOUR YEARS BUT I WASN'T GOING TO TOUCH ON THE REMAINING FOUR UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. AND THEN THESE LAST SLIDES GET INTO THE MORE SPECIFIC IMPACTS FOR THE CONSTRAINED FUNDING, SO THIS IS THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WERE DELAYED FROM 2019 AND IT NOTES THE YEAR THEY WERE DELAYED TO.

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OTHER YEARS, BEYOND 2019, PROJECTS NEED TO MOVE TO TRY TO BALANCE OUT THE NUMBERS. THESE FIVE PROJECTS WERE SIMPLY DELETED, NOT FUNDED. EQUIPMENT ALSO DELAYED FROM 2019. DELAYED FROM OTHER YEARS TO BALANCE OUT THE NUMBERS. AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE DELETED. THEN WE HAD A FEW OTHER CHANGES.

I MENTIONED GRISWOLD WINDOWS MOVING INTO BUILDING IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE REDUCED THE OLENTANGY RIVER ROAD GUARDRAIL PROGRAM. WE MOVED THE ASSESSMENTS TO THE OPERATING BUDGET. WE MOVED, SINCE THE DOWNTOWN TIF IS STARTING TO HAVE SOME PROCEEDS COME IN, WE MOVED SOME OF THE PAY-FOR-REPAIR ON THE VILLAGE GREEN AND DOWNTOWN AREA TO BE FUNDED FROM THE TIF AND WE MOVED SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS INTO EXISTING ALLOCATIONS. AND THAT'S ALL MY PREPARED COMMENTS. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ANY THOUGHTS?

FROM THE COUNCIL SIDE? >> WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, $800,000 IS GONE, RIGHT? OR NOT AT ALL.

FOR THE STREETSCAPE -- WE WERE ON A PROGRAM TO FUND $800,000 A YEAR FOR WILSON BRIDGE ROAD ENHANCEMENTS.

WE HAVEN'T MADE IT YET, HAVE WE? >> NO, AND THE $800,000 FOR ONE YEAR IN THE CURRENT C.I.P. WAS DROPPED.

WE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS SUFFICIENT TO GET THE NUMBERS TO BALANCE WE DROPPED IT AND SAID WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER STRATEGY TO APPROACH IT.

SO IT'S STILL OUT THERE BUT IT'S NOT FUNDED IN THE C.I.P.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WE HAVE PUT A $1.225 MILLION LINE ITEM FOR MCCORD PARK BUT THAT'S UNFUNDED?

>> YES, CORRECT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL COME FORWARD WITH MONEY.

DIDN'T WE ASK MR. DUFFY TO BE IN THAT FOR US IN THE LAST STATE CAPITAL BUDGET AND HE DECLINED?

>> WE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED A CAPITAL BILL AND WE THINK IT'S A GOOD CANDIDATE IN THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE ONES

WE WOULD RECOMMEND. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT WOULD BE IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

>> IF COUNCIL SO DESIRES. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: AND THERE'S NO PLACE HOLDER FOR SWIM, INC, BECAUSE WE DON'T

HAVE AN ASK? >> CORRECT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: HAVE WE ALLOCATED ANYTHING FOR THE DISPATCH TRANSITION? AND DO WE EXPECT THAT WOULD BE

A CAPITAL OUTLAY? >> IT'S POSSIBLE IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH. SO WE TOOK SOME STEPS, FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED OR MAYBE NOT THE DROP OF THE PRO Q&A SOFTWARE NOT FUNDED, THAT'S AN INVESTMENT WE WILL NEED TO MAKE IF WE REMAIN IN THE DISPATCHING BUSINESS.

ON THE SDE OF IF WE MOVE TO CONSOLIDATE DISPATCHING OPERATIONS THERE'S FIRE STATION ALERTING IN HERE, THERE ARE A FEW STEPS THAT REFLECT CONSOLIDATION, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS, MODIFICATIONS OF POLICE STATION

-- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'M TALKING ABOUT HARD COSTS TO HELP MAKE THAT TRANSITION WHICH COULD B SIGNIFICANT AND COULD TAKE OVER A YEAR.

>> YES, ANY KIND OF TRANSITION WILL LIKELY TAKE A YEAR OR MORE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: HAVE WE NOT PUT A PLACE HOLDER IN?

>> WE ARE STILL EVALUATING, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT AT THIS

JUNCTURE. >> RIGHT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I ALSO NOTE IN THE BUDGET TEXT THAT YOU MADE MENTION OF POTENTIAL FUTURE ASSESSMENTS FOR SIDEWALKS? DOES THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING

YOU HAVE WRITTEN? >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE REFERENCE IS FOR.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THOUGHT I HAD READ SOMETHING IN OUT YEARS THAT BEING A POSSIBILITY, THAT'S NOT A VALID POSSIBILITY.

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>> FOR MANY YEARS WE HAVE LISTED --

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: NOT WITHOUT DIRECTION.

>> RIGHT, FOR MANY YEARS WE HAVE LISTED $25,000 ASSESSMENT AS PART OF THE STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE SIDEWALKS WHEN WE GO INTO OVERLAY THE STREET, WE INSPECT THE SIDEWALKS AND INDICATE RESIDENTS NEED TO REPLACE SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE A TRIP HAZARD AND OTHER ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. IF THEY UTILIZE OUR CONTRACTOR THOSE ARE ASSESSED BACK TO THEM. THERE'S THAT REFERENCE OF SIDEWALK ASSESSMENTS BUT IT'S OUR ONGOING SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, I DON'T RECALL A SEPARATE MAINTENANCE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I READ, THE MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENTS, AS OPPOSED TO EXPANSION ASSESSMENT.

I WOULD HATE FOR THAT CONCEPT TO BE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT WHEN THIS COUNCIL IS A LONG WAY FROM AGREEING ON ANY OF THAT.

>> AND THE STAFF WAS NOT INTENDING TO PROPOSE ANY NEW PROGRAM WITH SIDEWALK ASSESSMENTS.

THE REFERENCES IN THERE, I BELIEVE ONLY RELATE TO THAT ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE FOR YEARS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT REQUEST FAR EXCEEDED THE MONEY. I KNOW GIVEN THE SEWERS AND NORTHEAST GATEWAY OUR C.I.P. IS INCREDIBLY CONSTRAINED AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK. THAT BEING SAID, AND WHILE I THINK THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT STEPS TOWARDS THIS, I BELIEVE MR. NORDSTROM ASKED, PROPOSED MANY YEARS AGO, THAT THIS IS AN EXPRESSION OF OUR PRIORITIES AND OUR GOVERNANCE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER DOCUMENT WE HAVE. THIS IS WHERE OUR PRIORITIES ARE EXPRESSED. WE SET OUR PRIORITIES AT OUR RETREAT EVERY YEAR. I DON'T SEE THIS BUDGET PUT TOGETHER BASED ON -- WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IS YOUR TOP PRIORITY FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN TO FUND THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR AND WE CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.

I HAD TO FIND THAT. OKAY? I'M STILL PUSHING FOR THAT KIND OF BUDGET PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE THE NUMBERS. I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK IT IS TO DO THAT, OKAY? BUT THAT MEANS LESS T ME THAN ARE MY PRIORITIES BEING EXPRESSED IN THIS BUDGET, AND THEY'RE NOT. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

AND THAT'S FINE, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

TELL ME THAT. BUT IT'S MY JOB AS A COUNCILMEMBER, OUR JOB AS COUNCIL TO SET PRIORITY, IT'S YOUR JOB T EXECUTE ON THOSE PRIORITIES AND REPORT BACK TO US WHETHER YOU CAN OR CAN'T. WHAT YOU PUT AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THE FRONT.

WHAT PRIORITIES CAN'T I ACCOMPLISH NEXT YEAR LIKE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, LIKE MCCORD PARK, LIKE SWIM, INC.

WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

I WILL GET OFF MY SOAP BOX. >> WE WILL CERTAINLY WORK TO INCORPORATE MORE OF THAT IN THE NARRATIVE OF THE C.I.P.

WE ATTEMPTED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I SEE THE EVIDENCE OF THAT.

THE NEXT PART WHEN YOU ARE TELLING ME WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT YOU JUST CAN'T GET ACCOMPLISHED, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR UP FRONT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT OR CORE FUNCTION AS COUNCILMEMBERS ARE TO SET THE BUDGET PRIORITIES AND OUR GOVERNANCE IS EXPRESSED MORE THAN ANYTHING IN A C.I.P.

ACTUALLY, MR. MYERS KIND OF TOOK A LITTLE BIT IF NOT ALL OF MY THUNDER.

WITH HIS COMMENTS ABOUT PRIORITY AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THIS SYNCHRONIZE WITH THE RETREAT BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO I APPRECIATE YOU TOOK ABOUT

80% OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. >> GOOD NIGHT, THEN.

>> WELL, MY FINAL 20%, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT WAS DUE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET ANY ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT. I SEE THAT ACTIVITY WAS WITH THE COMMISSIONS AND ADVISORY BOARDS BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE WE HAVE

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DONE ANY OUTREACH ON A BUDGET PRIOR TO ACCEPTANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. MY COMMENTS, WHEN WILL WE DO THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT MR. MYERS WAS AT THE MEETING. BUT I ASKED WHERE WERE WE AT WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD. PRESIDENT MICHAEL SAID WE WOULD DELAY THAT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME WORKSHOP SESSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET IS AND THIS IS HOW IT SYNCHRONIZES TO THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE SET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

THAT WAS MY COMMENT. >> I THINK THIS DOVE TAILS WITH WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. THIS BUDGET BEGAN 15 YEARS WHEN COUNCIL MADE A DECISION THAT WE SHOULD EXPLORE THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY IMPROVEMENTS. AND IT FINAL CAME TO FRUITION IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. PARTICULARLY THE C.I.P. BUDGET.

THE OPERATING BUDGET THERE IS SO LITTLE DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IN THAT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER THAT.

ONCE POLICE AND FIRE AND PAYROLL IS DONE, THAT IS ABOUT IT.

THE C.I.P. IS REALLY AN EXPRESSION OF PRIORITIES.

AND THE PRIORITIES REALLY DON'T GET SET IN THE BUDGET CYCLE.

THEY GET EXPRESSED IN THE BUDGET CYCLE.

THEY GET SET AT OUR COUNCIL RETREAT, DISCUSSIONS DURING THE YEAR. AND I THINK FOR THE NEXT CYCLE OF BUDGETS IT IS GOING TO GET SET BY THE LONG RANGE PLANNING THAT WE ARE BOUT TO EMBARK ON. AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT IS WHERE IT WILL BE THE CITIZENS AN COME IN AND EXPRESS WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, THEN WE CAN EXPRESS DOWN THE ROAD IN THE BUDGET. THAT IS AS ACTIVE A ROLE THAT THE CITIZENS CAN PLAY IN DETERMINING WHAT THE BUDGET IS WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THAT.

THAT IS ALL THE C.I.P. IS, AN EXPRESSION OF OUR PIORITIES.

SO I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BASICALLY GO TO THE CITIZENS AND SAY, HEY, HELP US ESTABLISH THESE PRIORITIES.

AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE INVOLVED. BUT I HOPE ACROSS THE BOARD

PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT AS THAT. >> AND IN THINKING ABOUT THIS AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, I THINK YOU WOULD WANT THAT.

YOU KNOW, REASSURANCE IN THERE, HEY, THE COMMUNITY WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. AND I AM NOW EXECUTING WHAT MY

CONSTITUENTS WANT. >> PRES. PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT IS REALLY MORE ABOUT PRIORITY SETTING.

I HATE TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN A BUDGET WHEN THAT IS NOT REALLY THE SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION. THE SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION IS PRIORITIES. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS LONG RANGE PLANNING WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE CITIZENS

WITH. >> AMAZINGLY, WE AGREE.

>> PRES. PRO TEM S. MYERS: AND I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON C.I.P. BUDGETS IN THE FUTURE, THAT THE TWO OF THEM, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THE TWO.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING A LOT WITH MR. GREESON, WE IDN'T GET VERY FAR ON THE LONG RANGE VISIONING PLAN AS WE DID THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE TO MOVE IT UP AS A MUCH HIGHER PRIORITY.

THIS COMMUNITY AS CHANGED OVER YEARS, CHANGED OVER TIME, AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET OUT AND HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING, WHERE THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, AND DOING A VERY WELL-PLANNED OUT LONG RANGE STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOW, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE TOMORROW, AND HOW WILL WE GET THERE? AND WE HAVE STARTED TALKING TO A CONSULTANT ABOUT IT.

AND WE ARE STARTING TO WORK THERE.

BUT WE NEED TO AKE SURE THAT IS ONE OF OUR HIGHER PRIORITIES NEXT YEAR, THAT WE GET THIS VISIONING PROCESS UP AND GOING.

THIS IS WRING PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.

THEY HAVE THOUGHTS HERE AND THERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET IT HERE. I TALKED TO ONE PERSON HERE AND HERE. I THINK THIS VISION PROCESS IS WHAT GETS EVERYONE TOGETHER AND IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT.

>> AT THE CITIZEN LEVEL THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A COHESIVENESS OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY.

AND UNDERSTANDING THE OPERATING BUDGET IS LIKE YOU SAID, PAYROLL AND ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD. SO THE ONLY THING THAT THE CITIZENS CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET BASED ON PRIORITIES AND THAT IS WHERE THE CONFUSION SETS IN.

WHY ARE WE -- AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS NOT A PRIORITY.

BUT WHY ARE WE PRIORITIZIING WILSON BRIDGE ROAD OVER SHORT STREET, AS AN EXAMPLE. THAT IS WHAT GETS FOLKS THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

>> RATHER HAVE TEN MILES OF SHARED USE ATH OR NEW SEWER LINES DOWN NORTH STREET. THAT IS THE KIND OF CHOICES THAT

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WE HAVE O MAKE. >> RIGHT.

>> AND MAYBE THE CITIZENS SAY I DON'T CARE ABOUT CLEAN WATER.

I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WILL

HAPPEN EITHER. >> I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY IS THE DECISION MATRIX SOMETIMES.

AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE CAN GET A BETTER

UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

TIME. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY. AND THANK YOU AND THANK ALL THE STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO THIS.

WE ALL KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT AND TIME-CONSUMING. IT IS A WONDERFUL JOB YOU HAVE DONE AND A HELPFUL DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER, AND WE SAY THANK YOU.

[8. Reports of Council Members]

ALL RIGHT. REPORTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT.

MS. THRESS. MR. LINDSEY.

>> NOTHING TO ADD. >> WE ALSO HAD OUR FIRST DOG EVENT AT MCCOURT PARK LAST WEEKEND THAT REPLACED THE OLD FIDO FEST THAT WAS RUN BY WOOF.

THIS WEEK WE ARE DOING SOME OUTREACH ON YOUR ELECTRIC AGGREGATION PROPOSAL. OUR CONSULTANT AND STAFF ARE TALKING TO A CHAMBER COFFEE AND CONVERSATION EVENT.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION SCHEDULED WITH THE A.M. ROTARY AND ALSO WITH SOME SENIORS AT THE GRISWOLD CENTER.

THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR OUT REACHES ON THOSE ISSUES.

AS FAR AS THE MEMOS I DISTRIBUTED LAST WEEK TO THE COUNCIL, ONE OF THEM WAS RELATED TO COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION NON-DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE AND THE PROCESS THAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THAT SUBJECT.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JACK MINOR, THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMISSION, THIS WEEK, AND HE IS READY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND OTHER CRC MEMBERS TO START THE PROCESS THAT WAS OUTLINED IN THAT MEMO. AND I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH COUNCIL BEFORE WE STARTED IN ON THAT EFFORT IN EARNEST TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU.

>> CITY MANAGER M. GREESON: THE SECOND MEMO I DISTRIBUTED, IDEAS ABOUT THE PROCESS PREPARED BY DR. MARLOW WHO INTERVIEWED YOU ABOUT ISSUES WITH UCH, CRAFTED IDEAS ABOUT COMMUNITY VISIONING AND UMCH AND REALLY HOW TO MANAGE HOPEFULLY A NEW CONVERSATION ON THAT ISSUE WITH THE HOPE OF DEVELOPING CONSENSUS. THERE WAS A STRONG DOSE OF COMMUNITY ENVISIONING CONTEMPLATED IN HAT PROCESS.

I AM PROPOSING TO SCHEDULE HIM TO RETURN AND MEET AGAIN ITH STAKEHOLDERS, GO OVER SOME OF HIS PROCESS IDEAS THAT I DISTRIBUTE TODAY YOU, GET MORE INPUT AND REVISE THEM, AND AFTER THAT SECOND ROUND WE WOULD COST IT, DEVELOP AN ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT WOULD COST TO UNDERTAKE SUCH A PROCESS AND BRING T BEFORE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, I PLAN TO GET HIM UP HERE AGAIN TO CONTINUE

THAT PROCESS. >> WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE HIM RETURNING, AND CAN YOU FORECAST WHEN YOU WOULD BRING THIS BEFORE

COUNCIL FOR MOVING FORWARD? >> PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAD IT ALREADY DONE, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD GET THE GO, N-GO DECISION MADE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

I'M GOING TO CONTACT HIM ND WORK OUT SCHEDULE ISSUES THIS WEEK. GIVEN THE NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS AND DIVERSITY OF SCHEDULES WE WERE DEALING WITH, IT TOOK A WHILE, BUT PREFERABLY NOVEMBER, END OF OCTOBER OR EARLY NOVEMBER

HAVING IT UP HERE. >> DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD E

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AN ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH MARLOW?

>> THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL. A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.

>> CITY MANAGER M. GREESON: I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IF WE UNDERTAKE ANY KIND OF PROCESS, IT IS ONE THAT KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNCIL HAVE TO AGREE ON, SO, YES.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF WHEN IT IS INTRODUCED WHEN WE FIRST, IT WAS A WELL-PUBLICIZED MEETING.

>> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. >> MR. ROBINSON.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT, NOTHING TO ADD.

>> A QUICK COMMENT ON THE REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I QUESTION THE FIRST STATISTIC, THE CARBON DIOXIDE, 1670 POUNDS. IS THAT BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT EVERY RIDE IS REPLACING MILES IN A CAR?

>> YES, SIR. >> NOT TO QUESTION THAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BEEN WALKING, MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT DQ, SAILED I'LL TAKE A RIDE OUT ON A LARK FOR A ROW AND THE MUSEUM.

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE INTENT TO TRY TO JUSTIFY AND SHOW VIRTUE TO THE LIME EXPERIMENT, BUT LET'S AT LEAST BE REASONABLE

ABOUT THAT. >> I WILL ADD THAT IS INFORMATION PROVIDED BY LIME. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, AS THE RESIDENT OLD WORTHINGTON RESIDENT IN COUNCIL, I NOTICE THE SIGNS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AS PART OF THE STREET SIGNS AS PART OF OUR NEW SIGN PHASE TWO, I THINK, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

LOOKED GREAT. SO GOOD ORK TO THE TEAM ON THAT. THE SECOND THOUGHT WAS ABOUT MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RELATED AS WE ARE TALKING THROUGH BUDGET AND IS WHAT NOT, I KNOW PAST COUPLE YEARS WE HAVE TOYED AROUND WITH THE IDEA OF MAYBE ADDING SOME FUNDS IN THERE TO SEND MORE STAFF AND/OR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SITE SELECTION EVENTS, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, PLACES LIKE THAT WHERE IF JEFF HARRIS WERE IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE BROKERS, WHEELING AND DEALING WHERE TO COME TO THE MIDWEST TO SET UP SHOP, THAT TYPE OF THING.

I THINK THINGS ARE KIND OF AT A CONFLUENCE OF EVENTS IN OUR CITY WHERE IT MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE FOR US TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH A COUPLE HOICE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT CATER TO SOME SPECIFIC TYPES OF NEEDS. JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE EVENTS COST OR WHERE THEY ARE OR WHEN BUT JUST SOME THOUGHTS THERE. AND THEN THIRD IS I HAVE TO ADD TO THE ISSUE 39, AGGREGATION, I HAVE A COUPLE EVENTS THAT I'M SPEAKING AT THIS WEEK AS WELL BY INVITE.

AND IF YOU WANT YES ON ISSUE 39 SIGNS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I HAVE SOME. >> I HAVE NOTHING, THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: KOWALCZYK.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: A COUPLE THINGS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF THE MURAL TASK FORCE REPORT. I KNOW THERE WAS CONFUSION AS TO WHERE WE STOOD ON THAT. AND I THINK THAT REPORT RAISES A LOT OF INTERESTING IDEAS THAT ARE WORTH DISCUSSING.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN BRING THAT TO A COUNCIL MEETING IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DISCUSS MAYBE HOW WE PROCEED IN THE NEXT YEAR ON THAT ISSUE. AND IF YOU HADN'T SEEN IT, SWIM, INC., HAS AN ONLINE SURVEY OUT THERE TO GATHER INFORMATION.

THEY WERE ALWAYS OUT AT THE FARMERS MARKET TAKING FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE AS THEY PASSED BY. SO THEY ARE WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN FOR IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF YOU HAVE THINGS TO SUGGEST, I SUGGEST YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND OFFER YOUR FEEDBACK. AND THEN FINALLY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT WE WENT TO THE PODS IN THE PARK EVENT AND THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT. MY DOG HAD A BLAST AND HE WAS WIPED OUT AFTERWARDS. I HOPE WE CAN DO IT AGAIN.

I HOPE THAT YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A SUCCESS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH

FOR PUTTING IT ON. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I JUST WANTED TO MENTION HOW THE KEMPER HOUSE OPENING THAT WE HAD, MR. MYERS DID A WONDERFUL JOB SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

AND MS. KOWALCZYK AND I WERE BOTH THERE.

IT IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE

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GENTLEMAN IN CHARGE HAS SO MUCH PASSION FOR ALZHEIMER'S PATIENTS AND THE NEED FOR HAVING A FACILITY, A HIGH-QUALITY CARE FACILITY. AND HE BASED A LOT OF IT ON THE EXPERIENCES OF HIS GRANDMOTHER WHO HAD NDED UP HAVING ALZHEIMER'S AND NOT HAVING A FACILITY FOR HER AND WHAT TYPE OF PLACE WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR HIS GRANDMOTHER.

IT WAS JUST A REALLY WONDERFUL, WARMLY EMOTIONAL PRESENTATION.

AND REALLY SETS THE STAGE FOR US HAVING A REALLY HIGH QUALITY FACILITY COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS WORKED WELL, AND I UST WANT TO MENTION WHAT A NICE EVENT IT WAS AND THAT WE ARE HAVING -- IT MAKES ME FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT WHAT A WONDERFUL FACILITY WILL BE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS HIGHLY NEEDED. AND ONE OF THE STATISTICS I BROUGHT UP WAS THE HIGH PERCENTAGE, THE LARGEST NUMBER OF DEATHS IN THE COUNTRY NOW ARE DUE TO ALZHEIMER'S.

AND SO I DON'T REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGE, BUT THE PERCENTAGE WAS FAIRLY HIGH OF PEOPLE WHO COULD COME DOWN WITH IT AT SOME POINT. SO IT REALLY BROUGHT TO LIGHT A FOCUS ON THAT THAT I HAD NOT HAD BEFORE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL?

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IF NOT, MS. KOWALCZYK MOVES AND MS

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