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1 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MONDAY MARCH 4, MEETING OF

[1. Call To Order]

2 THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

3 MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? 4

5 >> D SMITH: HERE.

6 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: HERE.

7 WILL EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG? 8 9 PLEASE BE SEATED.

10 I DON'T HAVE ANY VISITOR COMMENTS.

11 SO, I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO THE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS OF CORNELL ROBERTSON.

[5.A. Cornell Robertson - Franklin County Engineer Executive Summary: County Engineer Robertson will introduce himself to City Council and meet City officials]

12 MR. GREESON.

13 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO 14 INTRODUCE YOU TO YOUR FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER, CORNELL ROBERTSON, WHO IS 15 COMING TO EACH CITY TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

16 >> APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

17 I'M CORNELL ROBERTSON, FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER.

18 THE THREE THINGS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME ARE MY SPIRITUAL FAITH, HONORING MY 19 COUNTRY AND FAMILY.

20 AFTER THAT IS MY CAREER AT THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER OFFICE.

21 I HAVE BEEN THE ENGINEER FOR TWO YEARS.

22 HOWEVER, I WORKED AT THE OFFICE FOR 27 YEARS.

23 IN FACT, THE ONLY PLACE I WORKED SINCE I GRADUATED FROM OSU BACK IN 1992 AND I 24 AM THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

25 AS I GET OUT AND MEET FOLKS SOMETIMES THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE 26 ENGINEER'S OFFICE IS IN CHARGE OF.

27 AND I LIKE TO SAY WE'RE VERY SIMILAR TO O.D.O.T.

28 BUT ON A MUCH SMALLER SCALE.

29 THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL, WE TAKE CARE OF ROADS AND BRIDGES, DRAINAGE 30 IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE ROADWAYS AND TAKE CARE OF SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL THIS 31 TIME OF YEAR.

32 WE HAVE A VERY STRONG TEAM OF EMPLOYEES WHO TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THEIR WORK AND IT'S 33 AN HONOR FOR ME TO WORK AT THEIR SIDE.

34 I HAVE A VISION TO LEAD THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE AS AN AGENCY OF 35 ACTION, INNOVATION AND AS AN AGENCY OF COLLABORATION.

36 AND SO THAT THIRD ELEMENT, THAT COLLABORATION ELEMENT, IT BRINGS ME HERE TONIGHT.

37 AND I WANT TO EXTEND AN OFFER TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH WORTHINGTON 38 AS HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I'M INTERESTED IN STRENGTHENING 39 IT EVEN MORE.

40 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

41 AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

42 >> R DOROTHY: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COLLABORATE WITH ME AND A 43 COUPLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.

44 I HAD QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE IN WORTHINGTON WONDERING IF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON WHAT 45 KIND OF SALT THEY PUT ON THE ROADS, INCLUDING BRINE AND WHAT WAS IN IT.

46 I WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT TO YOU AND YOU RESPONDED WITHIN AN HOUR ABOUT WHAT KIND OF 47 SALT WAS PUT ON THE ROAD.

48 IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.

49 >> SALT IS THE PRIMARY COMPONENT FOR BATTLING THE SNOW AND ICE CONDITIONS.

50 WE TRY TO USE AGRICULTURE PRODUCT, IT'S MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

51 WE DON'T USE FRACKING BY-PRODUCT.

52 AND SO, WE PICK A STRATEGY BASED ON THE PARTICULAR WEATHER CONDITIONS, TAKING 53 TEMPERATURE INTO ACCOUNT, THE TYPE OF PRECIPITATION.

54 SO IT MAY VARY DEPENDING ON THE VARIOUS SITUATIONS WE HAVE.

55 >> R DOROTHY: I HAD MY OWN PERSONAL COMMENT YOU RESPONDED TO.

56 JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IMAGE YOU SHARED I HAVE SEEN YOUR SHARED AN IMAGE THAT DIDN'T 57 HAVE A PEDESTRIAN MARKED.

58 SINCE I COMMENTED.

59 I HAVE SEEN THEM ZEBRA DESCRIBED.

60 >> ARE LIKE TO SAY THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER'S 61 OFFICE TO PROVIDE FOR SAFE AND EFFICIENT MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND GOODS FROM PLACE 62 TO PLACE WITHIN FRANKLIN COUNTY.

63 SO IT'S VERY GENERAL.

64 AND WE HAVE TO BE INTERESTED IN ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

65 NOT JUST VEHICLES AND LARGE TRUCKS.

66 >> CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE HOW WE COLLABORATED WITH YOUR OFFICE IN THE PAST 67 COUPLE OF YEARS.

68 A REAL-LIFE EXAMPLE?

69 >> THERE HAS BEEN A PROJECT YOU WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH ALONG 161 FROM SAW MILL TO

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70 THE 315 AREA.

71 AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN INTEREST OF YOURS AND THERE HAS BEEN A STUDY THAT'S BEEN 72 KIND OF ADMINISTERED BY MORPC.

73 THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF UNINCORPORATED ELEMENTS.

74 AND THAT'S WHERE THE ENGINEER OFFICE WILL PARTICIPATE IN THAT 75 DISCUSSION AND FUTURE PROJECT IF WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH AN APPROPRIATE 76 IMPROVEMENT.

77 >> D ROBINSON: I'M A MANAGER AND COMMISSIONER WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEERS 78 ASSOCIATE.

79 I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT WHAT YOU DO.

80 THANK YOU FOR COMING.

81 >> YOU ARE QUITE WELCOME.

82 >> D ROBINSON: WHO WAS YOUR PREDECESSOR?

83 >> MR. DEAN RINGLE.

84 >> D ROBINSON: PRIOR TO HIM WAS IT CIRCLE? 85 I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU GOT THE JOB WITHOUT A GEOMETRIC REFERENCE NAME.

86 >> IT'S A STRONG LEGACY OF ENGINEERS AT THE OFFICE.

87 AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO CARRY FORWARD THAT STRONG LEGACY.

88 MR. CIRCLE IS COUNTY ENGINEER WHEN I STARTED IN '92.

89 I CAN REMEMBER HE WOULD COME OUT ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OF MINE.

90 A HUMBLE GUY.

91 I WOULD BE A BIT NERVOUS BUT HE WOULD TALK TO ME LIKE A REGULAR GUY.

92 MR. RINGLE WAS A FABULOUS MENTOR.

93 IT WAS MORE OF A STUDENT/TEACHER OR FATHER/SON RELATIONSHIP.

94 I WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE A MENTOR LIKING MR. RINGLE.

95 AND I THINK HE PREPARED ME WELL AND MADE FOR A SMOOTH TRANSITION.

96 >> D ROBINSON: WELL SUITED TO CARRY ON THAT TRADITION.

97 GOOD LUCK.

98 >> THANK YOU.

99 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING.

100 AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

101 AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.

102 AND WE THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SHARING WITH US TONIGHT.

103 >> THANK YOU.

104 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I NOTICE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STUDENTS FROM THOMAS 105 WORTHINGTON.

106 WITH THE POLYRED CLASS.

107 I WANT YOU GENTLEMEN TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL EXPLAIN 108 IT.

109 IF YOU ARE NOT SURE, LET US KNOW AND DON'T BE SHY.

110 THE ONLY DUMB QUESTION IS THE ONE YOU DIDN'T ASK.

111 SO WE'LL MOVE ONTO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 19, CHANGES OR

[6.A. Council Meeting - February 19, 2019 Recommendation: Introduce and Approve as Presented]

112 ADDITIONS? 113 MOVED BY MR. ROBINSON FOR APPROVAL, SECONDED BY MR. FOUST.

114 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

115 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

116 THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

117 ORDINANCE NO.

[7.A. Ordinance No. 05-2019 Adoption of City Code Replacement Pages An Ordinance to Revise the Codified Ordinances by Adopting Current Replacement Pages. Executive Summary: This Ordinance approves replacement pages for the Codified Ordinances of the City to incorporate changes to City Code and State Law since the last update occurred. Recommendation: Approve as Presented Legislative History: Introduced on February 19, 2019]

118 05-2019 ADOPTION OF CITY CODE REPLACEMENT PAGES AN ORDINANCE TO REVISE THE 119 CODIFIED ORDINANCES BY ADOPTING CURRENT REPLACEMENT PAGES.

[8.A. Resolution No. 11-2019 Community Grant Allocations Approving Funding to Worthington Community Groups for the 2019 Community Grant Program Executive Summary: This Resolution allocates grant funding for community groups. Recommendation: Introduce and Approve as Presented]

120 WHEN THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE ORDINANCE OF STATE STATUTE IT'S REVISING 121 THE CODEBOOK.

122

123 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ORDINANCE 5-2019 IS PASSED.

124 NEW LEGISLATION RESOLUTION NO.

125 11-2019 COMMUNITY GRANT ALLOCATIONS APPROVING FUNDING TO WORTHINGTON 126 COMMUNITY GROUPS FOR THE 2019 COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM.

127 INTRODUCED BY MR. SMITH, MOVED BY ADOPTION BY MR. MEYERS, SECONDED BY 128 MS. DOROTHY.

129 MR. GREESON.

130 >> MOTION.

131 PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MS. STEWART STAFFEDDED THIS AND.

132 I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER AND INVITE COUNCILMEMBER SMITH TO ADD ANYTHING HE 133 WOULD LIKE TO.

134 >> YOU MAY RECALL THE CITY HAS AN ANNUAL GRANT PROGRAM TO PROVIDE GRANTS TO 135 NONPROFITS THAT SERVE THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY IN THE 2019 BUDGET THERE IS $33,750 136 AVAILABLE FOR THOSE COMMUNITY GRANTS.

137 CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATED PRIORITIES FOR THOSE GRANTS.

138 THEY INCLUDED SUPPORT FOR VISION OF BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE FOOD AND CLOTHING.

139 SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY COUNSELING, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING AND SOCIAL 140 SUPPORTS IN THAT WAY.

141 AND THEN SECONDARILY IMPROVEMENT TO THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY.

142 WE PUT FORTH AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FROM 14 143 DIFFERENT NONPROFITS THAT SERVE THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY.

144 A GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL HAS REVIEWED THOSE 145 APPLICATIONS AS MR. GREESON MENTIONED, COUNCILMEMBER SMITH AND KOWALCZYK SERVED

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146 ON THE COMMITTEE ALONG WITH THREE OTHERS THAT REPRESENTED OTHER GROUPS.

147 THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PRESENTS FOR YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT.

148 THE VARIOUS AMOUNTS ANDCATIONS ARE INCLUDED -- ALLOCATIONS ARE IN YOUR 149 AGENDA PACKET.

150 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

151 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHAT IS SYNTERO?

152 >> FORMERLY NORTHWEST COUNSELING SERVICES.

153 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS?

154 >> MS. STEWART, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE 155 NCR FOUNDATION GRANT? 156 I WANT TO PREFACE MY QUESTIONS WITH A STATEMENT THAT PROVIDING SENIORS OF 157 LOW INCOME WITH THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES RANKS AT THE TOP OF MY LIST OF SOCIAL 158 PROGRAMS THE CITY WOULD BE JUSTIFIED IN FUNDING.

159 THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF MY QUESTION.

160 IT'S MORE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF NCR FOUNDATION REQUEST AND 161 THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE 162 INITIAL GRANT WAS MADE IN 2017 OR WERE THOSE NEW SERVICES ENABLED BY OUR 163 CONTRIBUTION?

164 >> I DID REVIEW THE 2017 APPLICATION TO TRY TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.

165 THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THEY APPLIED FOR FUNDING AND RECEIVED.

166 THE PROGRAM REALLY SERVICES LOW-INCOME SENIORS AND HELPS THEM TO STAY LIVING 167 INDEPENDENTLY.

168 IT HELPS THEM WITH MEALS, CLEANING THEIR APARTMENT, AND TO ENABLE THEM TO LIVE 169 INDEPENDENTLY.

170 SINCE MANY SENIORS ARE AT A FUNDING LEVEL TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES, THE GRANT PROVIDES 171 THOSE FREE OF CHARGE OR SUBSIDIZE COST.

172 I NOTED IN THE NARRATIVE THEY INDICATED THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS RECEIVING THAT 173 TYPE OF FUNDING SUPPORT AND YET THEY WERE LIMITED, MAXED OUT IN THEIR CAPACITY.

174 THEY COULD NOT ADD ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OR CUSTOMERS TO THE SERVICES 175 BECAUSE THEY REACHED THE MAXIMUM.

176 THEY HAD APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND SERVICES TO A BROADER GROUP 177 OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MEET THOSE LOW-INCOME NEEDS IN STAFFORD VILLAGE.

178 >> I WILL SUPPORT THIS GRANT THIS YEAR.

179 THE REASON I THINK THIS REQUEST SHOULD BE LOOKED AT MORE CAREFULLY IS NCR 180 FOUNDATION IS AN EXTREMELY SUBSTANTIAL NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT IS 181 EXTREMELY WELL FUNDED.

182 I LOOKED AT THEIR 990 FROM 2016, TOTAL NET ASSETS EXCEEDED 120 MILLION.

183 WHAT I WOULD CALL PROFIT, EXCEEDED $2.5 MILLION.

184 THEIR TOP THREE EMPLOYEES, ANNUAL COMPENSATION AVERAGES OVER A QUARTER MILLION PER 185 YEAR.

186 GIVEN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THAT IT'S NOT A DOROTHY DAY HOUSE AND HOSPITALITY TYPE 187 OF OPERATION AND I QUESTION WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR OUR CITY TO GIVE THEM MONEY.

188 THERE IS BIGGER ISSUES WITH NCR, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WITH WHEN WE DISCUSS IT 189 WITH STAFFORD.

190 BUT I WANTED TO GET THAT ON RECORD I THINK NEXT YEAR WE LOOK AT THE GRANT MORE 191 CAREFULLY.

192 >> D SMITH: THE COMMITTEE DID BRING THAT UP, THE FIVE OF US MENTIONED THAT AND HAD 193 A NICE PARLAY ABOUT THAT.

194 WE DETERMINED THIS WAS A TRACKABLE FUND FOR TRACKABLE SERVICES IN THE STAFFORD 195 VILLAGE.

196 HIGHER LEVEL PHILOSOPHY POINT WELL TAKEN.

197 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? 198 NO.

199 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

200 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

201 RESOLUTION IS PASSED.

202 MR. SMITH?

203 >> D SMITH: AS A TAGLINE, THE COMMITTEE CHALLENGED COUNCIL TO REVISIT THE 204 PRIORITIES MAYBE CHALLENGES, ENCOURAGE US TO DOUBLE DOWN ON OUR CURRENT PRIORITIES IN 205 THE MATRIX OR RECONFIGURE TO OUR CURRENT COUNCIL'S DESIRES.

206 BUT JUST DIRECTION FOR THAT.

207 SECOND POINT TO WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS TRYING TO INFORM US ABOUT, WHICH I

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208 WILL TRY TO BRING UP IN APRIL OR MAY, IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THIS FOR NEXT 209 YEAR SINCE THERE WILL ESPECIALLY BE NO BED TAX.

210 THAT WAS A CONCERN.

211 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANYTHING YOU CAN BRING SUGGESTIONS ON HOW 212 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PRIORITIES AND HOW THEY WERE ESTABLISHED.

213 IF YOU CAN PROVIDE GUIDANCE OR THOUGHTS OR FOOD FOR THAT FOR COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE 214 HELPFUL.

215 >> MR. SMITH, QUESTION.

216 I SERVED ON THAT SAME COMMITTEE AS YOU DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

217 I THOUGHT WE HAD A WELL-DEVELOPED MATRIX.

218 IS THERE A COMPONENT OF ASSESSING THE LEVEL OF NEED?

219 >> D SMITH: IT IS HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE.

220 BUT THE MATRIX GIVES A GUIDELINE FOR WAITING THE TEMPORAL HUMAN NEEDS A 221 LITTLE MORE WEIGHTED THAN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT NEEDS.

222 >> D ROBINSON: I'M THINKING MORE ABOUT THE TO MR. ROBINSON'S COMMENT, WHAT 223 WAS THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES AND LEVEL 224 OF FINANCIAL NEED?

225 >> D SMITH: I BELIEVE -- >> PRO TEM S MYERS: THAT IS SOMETHING COUNCIL WOULD HAVE 226 TO GIVE DIRECTION ON.

227 >> THE MATRIX HAS AN -- APPROPRIATELY CAPTURES THE THOUGHTS OF CITY COUNCIL AS 228 TO RELATES TO FINANCIAL NEED.

229 WERE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU THOUGHT NEEDED MORE CLARIFICATION IN THE MATRIX? 230 SINCE WE WENT OVER IT, MAYBE WE CAN CAPTURE THAT AND HAVE OUR COMMENTS BEFORE WE DO 231 THIS AGAIN?

232 >> D SMITH: THOSE WERE THE ONLY THINGS BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMITTEE.

233 I WOULD HAVE TO PUT THOUGHT ON THE SPOT AND COMB THROUGH THE MATRIX A LITTLE BIT.

234 BUT I THINK THE FORMULA WE HAVE COME UP WITH AS A COMMITTEE THE PAST FEW YEARS 235 WORKS.

236 THE PROCESS IS GOOD, THE OUTCOMES ARE DESCENT.

237 SO I'LL PUT MORE THOUGHT INTO THAT.

238 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANYONE ELSE? 239 WE'LL MOVE TO RESOLUTION NO.

[8.B. Resolution No. 12-2019 Renewal of Right of Way Agreement - Columbus Fibernet, LLC Approving an Agreement and Permit for and between Columbus Fibernet, LLC, an Ohio Limited Liability Company, to Operate and Maintain a Telecommunications System Within the City of Worthington Pursuant to and Subject to the Provisions of Chapter 949 of the Codified Ordinances of the City of Worthington. Executive Summary: This Resolution approves the renewal of a right of way agreement with Columbus Fibernet, LLC for three years. Recommendation: Introduce and Approve as Presented]

240 12-2019 RENEWAL OF RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT - COLUMBUS FIBERNET, LLC APPROVING AN 241 AGREEMENT AND PERMIT FOR AND BETWEEN COLUMBUS FIBERNET, LLC, AN OHIO LIMITED 242 LIABILITY COMPANY, TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN A TELECOMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM 243 WITHIN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON PURSUANT TO AND SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF 244 CHAPTER 949 OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

245 INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON, MOVED BY ADOPTION BY MR. FOUST.

246 SECONDED BY MR. SMITH.

247 MR. GREESON.

248 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS NOT A NEW 249 RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENT.

250 THIS IS A RENEWAL FOR FACILITIES THAT EXIST IN OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY.

251 AND WE BELIEVE COMPLIES WITH THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

252 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: QUESTIONS? 253 IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

254 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

255 RESOLUTION 12-2019 IS PASSED.

256 RESOLUTION NO.

257 13-2019 JOB DESCRIPTION - POLICE SERGEANT.

[8.C. Resolution No. 13-2019 Job Description - Police Sergeant. Amending the Position Description for Police Sergeant. Executive Summary: This Resolution amends the job description for Police Sergeant. Recommendation: Introduce and Approve as Presented]

258 AMENDING THE POSITION DESCRIPTION FOR POLICE SERGEANT.

259 INTRODUCED BY MR. MEYERS AND MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MS. DOROTHY, SECONDED BY 260 MR. ROBINSON.

261 MR. GREESON.

262 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING THROUGH 263 LEADERSHIP TRANSITION IN THE DIVISION OF POLICE WITH THE RETIREMENT OF JENNIFER 264 WORTS.

265 WE'LL HAVE A VACANT SERGEANT POSITION.

266 AND IT'S OUR CUSTOM TO UPDATE THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR POSITIONS BEFORE WE FILL 267 THEM.

268 IN THIS CASE WE HAVE A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION THAT WE'LL ALLOW 269 US TO BROADEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION THAT CAN APPLY FOR IT.

270 WOULD REQUIRE TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE WORTHINGTON DIVISION OF 271 POLICE, RATHER THAN INSTEAD OF THREE, WHICH HAS BEEN THE CUSTOM IN THIS PARTICULAR 272 JOB DESCRIPTION.

273 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: THAT'S THE MAIN ONE CHANGE?

274 >> M GREESON: RECOMMENDATION.

275 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? 276 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

277 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

278 RESOLUTION 13-2019 IS PASSED.

279 RESOLUTION NO.

280 14-2019 AMEND PERSONNEL RULES RELATED TO TEMPORARY APPOINTMENTS AMENDING THE

[8.D. Resolution No. 14-2019 Amend Personnel Rules Related to Temporary Appointments Amending the Personnel Rules and Regulations of the City of Worthington to Amend Provisions Related to Temporary Appointments of Communication Technicians. Executive Summary: This Resolution amends the Personnel Rules and Regulations to revise provisions related to the Temporary Appointment of Communication Technicians. Recommendation: Introduce and Approve as Presented]

281 PERSONNEL RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO AMEND 282 PROVISIONS RELATED TO TEMPORARY APPOINTMENTS OF COMMUNICATION TECHNICIANS.

283 INTRODUCED BY MR. FOUST MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MR. SMITH, SECONDED BY 284 MR. MEYERS.

285 MR. GREESON.

286 >> MOTION.

287 PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN STUDYING THE 288 COMMUNICATION CENTER AND POTENTIAL FOR CONSOLIDATION OR CONTRACTING OF THESE

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289 SERVICES.

290 AND THAT EVALUATION AND INFORMATION RELATED SHOULD BE COMING BACK FOR 291 INFORMATION REPORTING AND INFORMATION IN THE COMING MONTHS.

292 IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE HAD STAFFING CHALLENGES WITH VACANCIES AND FULL TIME 293 POSITIONS AND YOU ADDRESSED THAT INCLUDING INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PART-TIME STAFF.

294 IN THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION WE'RE ASKING YOU TO AMEND A PORTION OF 295 OUR PERSONNEL RULES AND REGULATIONS.

296 CURRENTLY THE PERSONNEL RULES AND REGULATIONS ALLOW ME OR THE CITY MANAGER TO 297 FILL OR AUTHORIZE A TEMPORARY, IF YOU WILL, FULL-TIME POSITION FOR UP TO 298 SIX MONTHS IN ANY PART OF THE ORGANIZATION.

299 WE ARE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE ME TO DO THAT FOR COMMUNICATIONS 300 TECHNICIANS UP TO 18 MONTHS.

301 THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO OFFER SOME OF OUR QUALIFIED AND QUALITY PART TIMERS WHO 302 DESIRE TO WORK FULL TIME.

303 WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR HOURS TO FULL-TIME STATUS FOR APPROXIMATELY 18 304 MONTHS.

305 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? 306 ANYTHING ANYONE WANTS TO BRING UP.

307 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

308 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

309 FOR OUR STUDENTS, I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING FOR YOU.MENT RESOLUTIONS ARE 310 SOMETHING WE DO RIGHT HERE BECAUSE -- THAT WE DO AND DECIDE HERE.

311 WHEN THERE IS AN ORDINANCE IT IS CHANGING CODE OR SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES AN 312 OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE NOTICE AND HAVE PEOPLE TESTIFY.

313 THE ORDINANCE GETS INTRODUCED ONE WEEK AND HEARD TWO WEEKS LATER.

314 THIS GIVES A CHANCE FOR THE MEDIA AND THE INTERNET, FACEBOOK, OUR WEBSITE, FOR 315 PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT ORDINANCES AND IF THEY WANT TO MAKE 316 COMMENTS IT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.

317 ORDINANCE 8.E.

318 ORDINANCE NO.

[8.E. Ordinance No. 06-2019 Rezoning - Worthington Gateway - 7007 North High Street To Amend the Official Zoning Map of the City of Worthington, Ohio, to Change Zoning of Certain Land from C-4, Highway and Automotive Services to PUD, Planned Use District (7007 North High Street) Executive Summary: This Ordinances rezones 7007 North High Street (PID #100-001218) from the C-4 District, Highway and Automotive Services to a PUD, Planned Use District for a mixed use development. Recommendation: Introduce for Public Hearing on March 18, 2019]

319 06-2019 REZONING - WORTHINGTON GATEWAY - 7007 NORTH HIGH STREET TO AMEND 320 THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, OHIO, TO CHANGE ZONING OF 321 CERTAIN LAND FROM C-4, HIGHWAY AND AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES TO PUD, PLANNED USE 322 DISTRICT (7007 NORTH HIGH STREET).

323 THIS KNOWN AS THE HOLIDAY INN PROPERTY FOR OUR GENTLEMEN IN THE BACK.

324 INTRODUCED BY MR. MEYERS.

325 ORDINANCE NO.

326 07-2019 SUBDIVISION - WORTHINGTON GATEWAY - 7007 NORTH HIGH STREET APPROVING 327 THE FINAL PLAT AND APPROVING A SUBDIVIDER'S AGREEMENT FOR THE WORTHINGTON GATEWAY

[8.F. Ordinance No. 07-2019 Subdivision - Worthington Gateway - 7007 North High Street Approving the Final Plat and Approving a Subdivider’s Agreement for the Worthington Gateway (7007 North High Street). Executive Summary: This Ordinance approves a Subdivision of Land at 7007 North High Street. Please see the staff memo and application materials in previous agenda item, Ordinance No. 06-2007.Recommendation: Introduce for Public Hearing on March 18, 2019]

328 (7007 NORTH HIGH STREET).

329 INTRODUCED BY MS. DOROTHY.

330 8.G.

331 ORDINANCE NO.

332 08-2019 WORTHINGTON GATEWAY TIF PROPERTY TRANSFER AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE 333 AND CONVEYANCE OF CERTAIN PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, 334 OHIO IN CONNECTION WITH A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PROGRAM IN ORDER TO 335 FACILITATE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7007 NORTH HIGH

[8.G. Ordinance No. 08-2019 Worthington Gateway TIF Property Transfer Authorizing the Acceptance and Conveyance of Certain Parcels of Real Property in the City of Worthington, Ohio in connection with a Tax Increment Financing Program in Order to Facilitate the Redevelopment of Certain Real Property Located at 7007 North High Street. Executive Summary: This Ordinance authorizes and accepts the parcels of real property located at 7007 North High Street to allow for an Urban Redevelopment Tax Increment Financing Program for the property. Recommendation: Introduce for Public Hearing on March 18, 2019]

336 STREET.

337 ORDINANCE NO.

338 09-2019 WORTHINGTON GATEWAY TIF AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DECLARING 339 IMPROVEMENTS TO REAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE; 340 DECLARING SUCH PROPERTY TO BE EXEMPT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION; REQUIRING THE 341 OWNERS OF THE REAL PROPERTY TO MAKE SERVICE PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES; ESTABLISHING 342 AN URBAN REDEVELOPMENT TAX INCREMENT EQUIVALENT FUND FOR THE DEPOSIT OF SERVICE 343 PAYMENTS; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A TAX INCREMENT 344 FINANCING SERVICE AGREEMENT AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

345 INTRODUCED BY MR. FOUST.

346 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, THAT PUBLIC HEARINGERING THE OTHERS WERE

[8.H. Ordinance No. 09-2019 Worthington Gateway TIF and Development Agreement Declaring Improvements to Real Property within the City to be a Public Purpose; Declaring such Property to be Exempt from Real Property Taxation; Requiring the Owners of the Real Property to Make Service Payments In Lieu of Taxes; Establishing an Urban Redevelopment Tax Increment Equivalent Fund for the Deposit of Service Payments; and Authorizing the City Manager to Enter Into a Tax Increment Financing Service Agreement and a Development Agreement with the Property Owner. Executive Summary: This Ordinance authorizes an Urban Redevelopment Tax Increment Financing Program and a Development Agreement to support the redevelopment of the former Holiday Inn property. Recommendation: Introduce for Public Hearing on April 15, 2019]

347 INTRODUCED FOR MARCH 18, THAT WILL BE APRIL 15 BECAUSE OF THE STATUTORY 348 REQUIREMENTS.

349 A LITTLE LONGER PERIOD BETWEEN INTRODUCTION AND PUBLIC HEARING.

350 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ORDINANCE NO.

351 10-2019 APPROPRIATION - GENERAL FUND AMENDING ORDINANCE NO.

352 52-2018 (AS AMENDED) TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR APPROPRIATIONS

[8.I. Ordinance No. 10-2019 Appropriation - General Fund Amending Ordinance No. 52-2018 (As Amended) to Adjust the Annual Budget by Providing for Appropriations from the General Fund Unappropriated Balance. Executive Summary: This Ordinance appropriates funds to account for the food scrap composting program, property tax payments for the property at 752 E. Dublin Granville Rd. (Kilbourne Building) and to correct a missed appropriation in the original adoption of the 2019 budget. Recommendation: Introduce for Public Hearing on March 18, 2019]

353 FROM THE GENERAL FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE.

354 INTRODUCED BY MR. SMITH.

355 OKAY.

356 AND NOW WE ARE ONTO REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS.

[9.A.I. City Council Expectations Document Executive Summary: Draft revisions to the Council Expectations document are presented for consideration Recommendation: Motion to adopt revised document]

357 MR. GREESON, WE'RE TALKING STARTING WITH THE DRAFT REVISIONS TO THE COUNCIL 358 EXPECTATIONS DOCUMENT.

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359 SO MR. GREESON, I'LL LET YOU START IN ON LEADING THIS.

360 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE 361 AUDIENCE AND PARTICULARLY THE STUDENTS, YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT CALLED THE COUNCIL 362 EXPECTATIONS DOCUMENT.

363 ESSENTIALLY, IT'S I'M GOING TO USE THE TERM, CIVILITY DOCUMENT, HOW YOU CHOOSE TO 364 WORK TOGETHER.

365 SOMETHING ANNUALLY AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND BOARD RETREAT DISCUSS HOW CAN WE 366 DO WITH THIS AND HOW CAN WE AMEND IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REFLECTS HOW WE WANT TO 367 BEHAVE AND TREAT EACH OTHER IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

368 THIS YEAR AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT WE WENT THROUGH IT AND AFFIRMED MUCH OF ITS 369 CONTENT.

370 HOWEVER, YOU DID TALK ABOUT AMENDING ONE MINOR SECTION AND THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM.

371 AND YOU WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO THE WORDING, SEEK TO DISCERN THE PUBLIC GOOD FOR 372 THE COMMUNITY.

373 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: COUNCILMEMBER ROBINSON.

374 >> D ROBINSON: I THINK THE GRAMMAR IS A BIT AWKWARD.

375 AND SINCE I DON'T KNOW WHO THE AUTHOR IS, I DON'T THINK I'M INSULTING ANYONE.

376 I THINK IT WAS A GENERAL SENSE IN THE RETREAT -- >> M GREESON: IT CAME OUT OF 377 THE RETREAT SO IT CAN BE AMENDED.

378 >> D ROBINSON: I DON'T KNOW HOW IT READ TO MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS.

379 BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, IT SHOULD EITHER BE SHORTENED TO SEEK TO DISCERN THE 380 PUBLIC GOOD, PERIOD, OR MAKE IT MORE COMPLEX SEARCH AS SEEK TO DISCERN AT ALL TIMES 381 THE WILL OF THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC GOOD AND EXERCISE SOUND JUDGMENT AND HOW TO 382 HARMONIOUSLY REALIZE THE TWO.

383 IT WAY IT'S NOW SEEMS AWKWARD TO ME.

384 >> R DOROTHY: JUST SEEK THE DISCERN THE PUBLIC GOOD AND LEAVE IT AT THAT.

385 IT'S SHORT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT.

386 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I JUST THINK, I DON'T WANT TO BE CRITICAL BUT I'M IN THE 387 PROCESS OF DRAFTING AN APPELLATE BRIEF AND THAT TAKES MULTIPLE LAYERS OF 388 REVIEW.

389 AND I AM THE MASTER OF RUN-ON SENTENCES.

390 I TRY AND CRAM AS MANY THOUGHTS AS I CAN IN ONE SENTENCE THAT SHOULD BE IN A 391 PARAGRAPH.

392 THAT'S ONE OF THE CRITICISMS THAT COMES BACK IN MY REVIEW.

393 I HATE TO SAY BUT I THINK YOURS IS A RUN-ON SENTENCE, MICHAEL.

394 I THINK WHAT YOU SAID IS INCAPSULATED IN THIS DOCUMENT.

395 >> D ROBINSON: IT WAS MY ATTEMPT TO GIVE MUNICIPAL EXPRESSION.

396 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I WOULD BE CRITICIZED FOR THE AT THE OFFICE.

397 >> D ROBINSON: MY MIND WAS TRYING TO GIVE A MUNICIPAL VERSION OF THE SERENITY 398 PRAYER.

399 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: DID I HEAR MS. DOROTHY MOVE WE REVISE TO SEEK AND DISCERN 400 THE PUBLIC GOOD SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON.

401 >> R DOROTHY: I CAN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT.

402 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY IT.

403 YOU KNOW, SAY ONE THING.

404 ANYBODY?

405 >> D ROBINSON: I'M HOPING COUNCILMEMBER MEYERS WILL SECOND IT.

406 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: DOES IT NEED A SECOND? 407 THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

408 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO REVISE THE DOCUMENT SO THE 409 NUMBER ONE READ SEEK TO DISCERN THE PUBLIC GOOD.

410 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

411 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF COUNCILMEMBER 412 KOWALCZYK'S EMAIL SHE SENT.

413 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: THAT WASN'T THIS ONE SENTENCE.

414 I'M TRYING TO AMEND THIS AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE.

415 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

416 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

417 OKAY.

418 NOW, WE HAVE AMENDED SECTION 1.

419 AND SO IF YOU WANT TO BRING UP WHAT MS. KOWALCZYK SENT IN HER EMAIL, THAT WOULD BE 420 APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.

421 >> M GREESON: COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK, WHO COULDN'T BE HER, EMAILED A 422 RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AMEND WHAT I BELIEVE IS NUMBER 14, IT CURRENTLY SAYS TREAT

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423 STAFF WITH RESPECT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, SHE RECOMMEND WE DELETE AT 424 COUNCIL MEETINGS SO IT WOULD READ TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT.

425 >> D ROBINSON: AT ALL TIMES.

426 >> R DOROTHY: WHICH WE NOTE ABOUT TREATING CONSTITUENTS WITH RESPECT.

427 BUT IT SAYS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

428 MAYBE WE SAY TREAT ALL CONSTITUENTS WITH RESPECT IN 13.

429 >> D FOUST: I BELIEVE IT SAYS TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

430 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WE HAVE TWO THINGS.

431 LET'S START WITH 14 BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP FIRST.

432 DO WE WANT TO AMEND TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT PERIOD OR TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT AT 433 COUNCIL MEETINGS? 434 I'M OPEN.

435 >> TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT AT ALL TIMES.

436 >> D ROBINSON: THAT WILL BE TOUGH WHEN I RUN INTO MATT AT THE GROCERY STORE.

437 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MAKE SURE THE SHOPPING CART DOESN'T GO OUT OF CONTROL OR 438 YOU HAVE COLLISION COVERAGE.

439 OKAY.

440 SO MR. ROBINSON MOVED WE AMEND.

441 TO SAY TREAT STAFF WITH RESPECT AT ALL TIMES.

442 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 443 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

444 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

445 14 HAS BEEN AMENDED.

446 DO WE WANT TO AMEND 13, TO STREET ALL CONSTITUENTS WHO COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS 447 WITH RESPECT?

448 >> R DOROTHY: I WOULD LIKE TO.

449 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: NO ONE SHOULD FEAR COMING TO A COUNCIL MEETING.

450 >> R DOROTHY: MAKING 13 BROADER AND EMPHASIZING.

451 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: KNOWING THE REASON BEHIND THE PROVISION, I PREFER TO MAKE 452 THIS ONE BROADER THAN TO ELIMINATE WHAT IT SAYS.

453 BECAUSE THIS WAS DESIGNED SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD COME IN AND FREELY SPEAK WHATEVER 454 IT IS, THEY WANTED TO SAY WITHOUT BEING CHALLENGED, HARASSED OR DEBATED 455 UNNECESSARILY AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

456 THERE WAS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE BEHIND THE PROVISION AND WE KNOW HOW IT CAME ABOUT.

457 I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT.

458 IF WE WANT TO BROADEN IT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE COULD SAY AT ALL TIMES.

459 AND THEN NO ONE SHOULD FEAR COMING, INCLUDING COUNCIL MEETINGS, I THINK NO ONE 460 SHOULD FEAR COMING TO A COUNCIL SHOULD STAY IN.

461 I THINK IT'S HANGING, MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE THAT 14 AND ON DOWN IF WE SAY TREAT ALL 462 CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT, AND THEN SAY IT SEEMS TO HANG.

463 IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT.

464 YOU FOLLOW ME?

465 >> R DOROTHY: IF YOU HAVE AN A YOU MUST HAVE A B.

466 WE DON'T HAVE A B TO BEGIN WITH.

467 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. MEYERS MAKES A GOOD POINT.

468 TREAT ALL CONSTITUENTS WITH RESPECT.

469 THEN HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING? 470 BEFORE IT SAYS, TREAT THEM RESPECT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

471 A KIND OF RELATES TO THE TOP SENTENCE.

472 I'M OPEN.

473 >> M GREESON: I WOULD BE HAPPY DELETING THE WORD, CONSTITUENTS.

474 TREAT ALL WHO COME TO COUNSEL MEETINGS WITH RESPECT.

475 I UNDERSTAND THE ORIGIN, THE NO ONE SHOULD FEAR COMING TO A COUNCIL MEETING.

476 THAT IS KIND OF NEGATIVE.

477 TREAT ALL WHO COME TO A RESPECT AND CREATE AN OPEN, WELCOME ENVIRONMENT.

478 OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

479 RATHER THAN TRYING TO UNDO A WRONG, LET'S ADVOCATE FOR THE RIGHT.

480 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: YOU ARE GOING TO REPEAT YOUR MOTION.

481 >> D FOUST: YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH FAITH IN MY MEMORY.

482 I MOVE WE AMEND 13 TO READ, TREAT ALL WHO COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH 483 RESPECT, WHAT DID I SAY? 484 AND CREATE A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT.

485 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: CAN YOU SAY?

486 >> I HAVE CREATE A WELCOME, OPEN ENVIRONMENT.

487 >> D FOUST: THANK YOU.

488 WHAT SHE SAID.

489 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WE HAVE A MOTION.

490 WE HAVE A SECOND.

491 >> R DOROTHY: AND WE'RE KEEPING A?

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492 493 TERRIFIC.

494 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OKAY.

495 SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

496 >> R DOROTHY: I'LL SECOND THAT.

497 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: FURTHER DISCUSSION, ONE THING I'M HOPING THIS 498 INCLUDES IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS AT MEETINGS, NOT ONLY BEING 499 PEOPLE TREATED FROM THE DAIS WITH RESPECT BUT BOOING AND CLAMMING THAT CAN INTIMIDATE 500 PEOPLE.

501 I LIKE THE OPEN ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS WHERE WE HAD TO SAY 502 UPFRONT, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR BOOING OR CLAPPING BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYONE TO 503 FEEL THEY CAN SPEAK.

504 I REMEMBER ONE PARTICULAR MEETING IN WHICH I WAS NOT ONLY THE DAIS BUT 505 INTERVIEWING.

506 I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW THEN EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE I FEEL I WOULD BE BOOED AND 507 DISRESPECTED.

508 I SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, PEOPLE FEEL OPEN AND COMFORTABLE.

509 BECAUSE WE WANT ALL PEOPLE TO COME AND BRING THEIR VIEWS.

510 I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY.

511 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 512 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

513 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

514 ANY OTHER CHANGES? 515 IF NOT, WHO HASN'T MOVED ANYTHING FOR A WHILE? 516 MR. SMITH MOVE AND MR. MEYERS SECONDS WE APPROVE THE AMENDED COUNCIL 517 EXPECTATIONS AS AMENDED TONIGHT.

518 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

519 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

520 AS AMENDED, WE HAVE APPROVED THE COUNCIL EXPECTATIONS.

521 MOVING ONTO THE COMMUNITY VISIONING FACILITATION.

[9.A.II. Request for Proposals - Community Visioning Facilitation Executive Summary: A Request for Proposals has been drafted for facilitation services related to the community visioning process to be launched this year. City Council will discuss the RFP and decide next steps for it.]

522 MR. GREESON.

523 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, AT YOUR LAST MEETINGS YOU REQUESTED STAFF 524 PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR CONSULTANTS RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY 525 VISIONING PROCESS.

526 FOR A WHILE, WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING THESE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.

527 AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUES, MANUAL OR HANDBOOK FOR 528 COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESSES, WE LOOKED AT RFPSFOR SIMILAR SERVICES 529 FROM A MULTITUDE OF JURISDICTIONS.

530 I THINK ONE FROM ILLINOIS, KANSAS, SOUTH CAROLINA AND THIS NECK OF THE WOODS.

531 AND PREPARED A DRAFT AS A STARTING POINT FOR OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TYPE 532 OF SERVICES YOU MAY WANT.

533 LET ME KIND OF -- >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. GREESON, I'M GOING TO 534 TAKE A SECOND TO HELP OUR GENTLEMEN IN THE BACK KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

535 ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FROM OUR COUNCIL RETREAT IS THIS YEAR WE'RE 536 GOING TO BE GETTING INTO A CITY-WIDE VISIONING PROCESS WHERE WE REACH OUT TO THE 537 COMMUNITY, AGES GEOGRAPHIC, WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT ALL THE WAYS.

538 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CITIZEN-DRIVEN STEERING COMMITTEE AND A CITIZEN 539 GROUP THAT IS GOING TO LEAD THE VISIONING PROCESS.

540 THEY WILL HAVE STAFF SUPPORT FOR WHATEVER THE NEED THE STAFF SUPPORT AND BE ABLE TO 541 DECIDE AND MAKE A LOT OF GREAT DECISIONS.

542 WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT THE COMMITTEE.

543 WE'RE LOOKING AT DO WE NEED A CONSULTANT FOR THE COMMITTEE.

544 SOME PEOPLE THINK THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE SAY THIS IS WHAT WORTHINGTON SHOULD LOOK LIKE 545 IN THE FUTURE.

546 AND WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT VIEWS.

547 I WANT MORE WALKABLE THINGS, AMENITIES.

548 VIEWS ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES THE MAJORITY OF WORTHINGTON 549 WANT.

550 WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON? 551 THAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS PROCESS, THIS VISIONING, WHICH SHOULD BE PRETTY 552 EXCITED.

553 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I'LL BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH THIS.

554 AND THERE IS NO PRIDE IN AUTHORSHIP.

555 IT'S A LAUNCHING POINT FOR YOUR CONVERSATIONS WHAT YOU EXPECT FROM A CONSULTANT.

556 REALLY ON PAGE THREE THERE IS AN INTRODUCTION, A BACKGROUND AND A PROJECT 557 DESCRIPTION.

558 THE INTENT THERE IS TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US AS A COMMUNITY, AS AN 559 ORGANIZATION AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE AND GREAT THINGS ABOUT US.

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560 A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECT DESCRIPTION.

561 THE WHY ARE WE DOING THAT.

562 YOU WILL SEE BOTH IN THE BACK, YOU WILL SEE TIMES WHERE I WOVE THE LANGUAGE 563 FROM THE RESOLUTION YOU ADOPTED LAST WEEK INTO VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THIS PAGE 564 NUMBER 3.

565 FOR INSTANCE, AT THE BOTTOM OF IT SAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE CITY WISHES TO 566 ENGAGE IN A CITIZEN-LED COMPREHENSIVE VISIONING PROCESS THAT INCLUDES ALL 567 STAKEHOLDERS WITH GAINING A BROADER UNDERSTANDING REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE 568 PEOPLE.

569 THAT IS KIND OF FROM THE LANGUAGE YOU ADOPTED LAST WEEK.

570 WE ON PAGE 4, WE MENTIONED THE VISION COMMITTEE.

571 YOU TALKED ABOUT IT A VISION COMMITTEE MISSION LAST WEEK.

572 WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS ON THE NUMBER BUT WE SIGNALED TO THE RESPONDENTS THERE 573 WILL BE ONE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MISSION AND THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT WILL BE 574 SORTED THROUGH POSSIBLY BEFORE THEY ARE SELECTED.

575 THE NEXT SECTION IS THE PRELIMINARY SCOPE OF THE WORK.

576 THIS IS A LOT OF THE MEAT OF THE MATTER.

577 WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT A CONSULTANT TO DO.

578 BUT ALSO, NOT BE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE AND LET THEM HAVE TO ABILITY TO THEIR 579 APPROACH TO COMMUNITY VISIONING.

580 A LOT OF THE PROJECTS WERE THE STEPS YOU SEE OUTLINED HERE.

581 THEY ARE PRETTY BROAD.

582 DATA COLLECTION.

583 THE CONSULTANT GETS FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMUNITY.

584 PROCESS DESIGN THEY COME UP WITH TENTATIVE DESIGNS FOR HOW THE PROCESS WOULD WORK 585 FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

586 YOUR PLACED A BIG EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

587 HOW THEY WOULD STRUCTURE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

588 COMMUNICATIONS.

589 HOW WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THE 590 PROJECT.

591 SO THAT WE BUILD FAITH AND TRUST IN THE PROJECT AND DRIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE 592 PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PLAN.

593 COMMON TO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND LONG-TERM VISIONING IS SOMETHING CALLED AN 594 ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN.

595 FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE STUDENTS, WHEN YOU DO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND 596 COMMUNITY VISIONING YOU WANT TO LOOK OUT 20 YEARS.

597 BUT TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRENDS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE 598 COMMUNITY.

599 WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS THAT FACE THE 600 COMMUNITY AND WHAT ARE THE TRENDS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE 601 COMMUNITY AND ITS ABILITY TO REALIZE ITS DESIRED VISION? 602 WE PUT INTERPRETATION AND ANALYSIS.

603 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT COLLECTING INFORMATION AND DATA AND 604 STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEYING AND OTHER FORMS OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.

605 IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT CAN ASSIST THE COMMITTEE AND YOU 606 IN INTERPRETING THE DATA AND COLLECTING IT AND COMPILING IT AND WORKING WITH IT.

607 TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE LONG-TERM TRENDS.

608 THEN THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THREE WHAT I WOULD CALL PRODUCTS OF THE PROCESS THAT 609 WE SAW THAT WERE COMMON TO A LOT OF THESE EFFORTS.

610 ONE WAS IDENTIFYING COMMUNITY VALUES AND PREPARING A COMMUNITY VISION 611 STATEMENT.

612 THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHAT YOU WANT -- WHAT THE 613 COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE IN THE FUTURE.

614 SO A WRITTEN STATEMENT OF THOSE VALUES AND THAT VISION.

615 A TERM WE USED IN THE PAST IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON AND I PICKED UP AGAIN FROM 616 THE NATIONAL CIVIL LEAGUES IS A TERM CALLED KEY PERFORMANCE AREAS.

617 THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, WHAT ARE THE AREAS OF WORK THAT NEED, YOU NEED TO DO IN IN ORDER 618 TO REALIZE YOUR VISION.

619 IF YOU DON'T STAY ON TOP OF THEM, YOU WON'T EFFECTIVELY REALIZE YOUR VISION.

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620 REALLY RECOMMENDING THE NEXT THING IS AN ACTION PLAN.

621 RECOMMENDING NEXT STEPS FOR BASICALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING A VISION.

622 HOW DO YOU SUSTAIN EFFORTS TO REALIZE THE VISION? 623 HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN RELEVANCY AND FOCUS ON IT? 624 THOSE ARE THE GENERAL WORK CATEGORIES.

625 YOU MAY ADD SOME, YOU MAY SPLIT THEM, LUMP THEM OR CHANGE THEM.

626 PLEASE DO SO AT WILL.

627 BUT THAT IS A SAMPLING OF THE ONES WE SAW.

628 AND THEN IN THE NEXT SECTION IS PROPOSAL CONTENT AND SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS.

629 A LOT OF THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL TO RFPS, WE WANT THEM TO TELL US IN A TRANSMITTAL 630 LEVEL WHO THEY ARE AND WHY THEY WANT TO DO WORK FOR US AND DESCRIBE THE PROJECT 631 TEAM AND QUALIFICATIONS.

632 WE WANT THEM TO TELL US WHAT IS THEIR APPROACH TO ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS, THE 633 SCOPE OF WORK ABOVE.

634 EVERYBODY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR HOW THEY REALIZE THOSE THINGS.

635 AND WE WANT EXAMPLES OF PREVIOUS WORK.

636 SO THIS WOULD BE WHERE HAVE YOU DONE COMMUNITY VISIONING WORK BEFORE, WHO ARE THOSE 637 FOLKS AND IF WE WANT TO CALL AND ASK THEM HOW GOOD A JOB YOU DID, WHAT IS THEIR PHONE 638 NUMBER, ADDRESS AND EMAIL? 639 THERE IS A PARTS OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN RFP, KIND OF A MIX BETWEEN A PROPOSAL AND 640 A QUALIFICATIONS.

641 WHERE WE DO WANT TO HAVE A COST PROPOSAL.

642 I DON'T THINK, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND YOU BASE THIS SOLELY ON COST.

643 THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU WANT TO BASE AS MUCH ON THEIR ABILITY TO EXECUTE 644 WHAT YOU ENVISION TO LOOK LIKE PROBABLY MORE THAN COST.

645 BUT YOU WANT A COST PROPOSAL TO UNDERSTAND THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE FOR WHAT THEY ARE 646 INITIALLY PROPOSING AND AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE, RECOGNIZING THAT MAY CHANGE 647 AS YOU NAIL DOWN THE ACTUAL PROCESS.

648 THE NEXT SECTION ON PAGE 6 IS EVALUATION CRITERIA.

649 AND YOU COULD ADD TO THOSE IF YOU WILL.

650 BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR PROJECTS.

651 SUBJECTIVE AND GENERAL TERMINOLOGY AROUND ANTICIPATING FIT AND WORKING 652 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.

653 DEMONSTRATED UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT AND THE CITY'S OBJECTIVE.

654 SO THAT'S REALLY HOW WELL THEY RESPOND TO THE RFP AND DO THEY GET WHAT YOU ARE 655 TRYING TO DO? 656 THEIR PROJECT APPROACH.

657 HOW CREATIVE, CLEAR, COMPREHENSIVE IS THEIR APPROACH TO THE VISIONING 658 EFFORT? 659 AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, EFFECTIVE ALLOCATION OF TIME AND RESOURCES.

660 THE REST OF IT IS MOSTLY BOILERPLATE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE INCLUDED 661 IN OTHER RFP'S.

662 AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THIS WAS SOME OF THE SIMILAR BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE WE DID 663 FOR THE BIKE AND PED MASTER PLAN.

664 SO IT'S NOT NEW.

665 MR. LINDSEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT.

666 THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY ON PAGE 9, QUESTIONS AND REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION.

667 WE WANT TO HAVE A CENTRAL POINT OF CONTACT.

668 WE WANT TO HAVE RESPONDENTS POSE THEIR QUESTIONS IN WRITING TO US SO WE CAN 669 ANSWER THOSE AND PROVIDE THEM TO ALL RESPONDENTS AND A LEVEL AND CLEAR PLAYING 670 FIELD FOR ALL POTENTIAL CONSULTANTS.

671 THAT'S A SUMMARY.

672 I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND WOULD ACCEPT ANY SUGGESTIONS 673 FOR CHANGE THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

674 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OKAY.

675 ANY THOUGHTS? 676 ANY SUGGESTIONS? 677 COMMENTS? 678 MR. ROBINSON?

679 >> D ROBINSON: AT THE RISK OF SUBJECTING MYSELF TO COUNCILMEMBER MEYERS, ABOUT 680 MY LOQUACIOUSNESS, THE INTRODUCTION, I'M A LITTLE -- I FEEL THE WAY IT IS 681 WORDED SUGGESTS SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF OR ACTUALLY

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682 DOING.

683 AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE ARE NOT, AS A COUNCIL OR WITH A CONSULTANT AND PROCESS, WE 684 ARE NOT CREATING A RENEWED VISION.

685 THAT SEEMS BEYOND THE ABILITY OF COUNCIL TO DO.

686 WE, AS A COUNCIL, COULD CREATE A STATEMENT ABOUT COUNCIL'S VISION.

687 WE COULD CREATE A PROCESS THAT FACILITATES DISCERNMENT OF A PUBLIC VISION THAT 688 RESULTS IN THE ARTICULATION OF THE VISION.

689 BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING WE'RE CREATING A RENEWED VISION.

690 THAT STRIKES I THINK TO THE IMPORTANT QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE SEE THIS PROCESS 691 AS ESSENTIALLY US DISCERNING THE PUBLIC VISION THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND MAYBE 692 STIMULATED AND EXPANDED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

693 BUT AS WORDED I DON'T THINK IT CONVEYS THAT.

694 AS A RESULT, I WOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING MORE LIKE THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON INVITES 695 CONSULTANT PROPOSALS TO DESIGN AND FACILITATE A PROCESS THAT WILL RESULT IN 696 A RENEWED ARTICULATION OF THE PUBLIC'S VISION FOR OUR CITY'S FUTURE.

697 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OTHER THOUGHTS?

698 >> 699 AS OPPOSED TO THE WORDS.

700 >> D ROBINSON: WHAT I'M TRYING TO -- WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THROUGH THE NEW 701 LANGUAGE IS TO AVOID THE SUGGESTION THAT WE ARE OR ARE CAPABLE OF CREATING A 702 RENEWED VISION.

703 >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY RENEWED VISION?

704 >> D ROBINSON: THAT IS THE LANGUAGE HERE.

705 THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE MY TOP CHOICE EITHER.

706 I THINK WHAT THAT MEANS WOULD BE A VISION THAT IS UPDATED FROM THAT OF 15 707 YEARS AGO.

708 ONE THAT IS A NEW EXPRESSION OF THE CITY BROADLY SPEAKING, THE CITY.

709 AS A RESULT, THAT EMERGES FROM THE VISIONING PROCESS.

710 >> 711 IS AND WHAT SHOULD BE?

712 >> D ROBINSON: NO.

713 NO.

714 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: WHAT I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT US TO ARTICULATE A VISION OF 715 WHAT WE ARE.

716 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE THAT WE START WITH A VISION OF WHAT WE 717 ARE.

718 BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO BE.

719 AND IF THAT'S THE SAME THING AS WHAT WE ARE, THAT'S OKAY.

720 BUT THE GOAL IS TO ARTICULATE WHAT WE WANT TO BE.

721 >> D ROBINSON: FOR ME THE WORD, VISION, IMPLIES FORWARD THINKING.

722 AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE ARE OR ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE 723 LANGUAGE, I THINK.

724 BY DEFINITION ALMOST VISION IMPLIES AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL.

725 WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT HERE IS I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA 726 THAT WE ARE FACILITATING A PROCESS THAT CREATES A VISION.

727 >> R DOROTHY: I'M CONFUSED.

728 I THINK -- I'M NOT SURE HOW IT CAME WITH THIS WORD TO BEGIN WITH.

729 THIS IS THE TITLE OF THE DRAFT RFP IS THE VISIONING PROCESS.

730 SHOULD WE GET RID OF VISIONING AT THE TOP? 731 I WASN'T A FAN OF VISIONING AT A WORD TO BEGIN WITH.

732 THIS IS GETTING MORE COMPLICATED THAN I ANTICIPATED AT THE GETGO.

733 >> I HAVE A NOT THAT MIGHT ADDRESS THE CONCERN.

734 I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A VISION OR CAPTURE THE -- CAPTURE AND

735 ANALYZE AND UNDERSTAND THE -- >> 736 BE CRITICAL.

737 >> D FOUST: I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN WE'RE NOT SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE.

738 WE'RE DONE.

739 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. FOUST.

740 >> D FOUST: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FORWARD THINKING.

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741 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: CAPTURE, I GOT CAPTURED.

742 I DIDN'T PAST THAT.

743 >> D FOUST: I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE THE PUBLIC'S VISION.

744 AT PRESENT AND FOR THE FUTURE.

745 NOW AND FOR THE FUTURE.

746 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.

747 >> M GREESON: MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. LINDSEY HAD A SUGGESTION.

748 >> AT LEAST -- WE'RE ALL WORD SMITHS SOMETIMES.

749 WHILE I HAD SEEN THIS DRAFT, I DIDN'T PICK UP ON THIS CREATE.

750 I THINK IS THE WORD THAT IS OF CONCERN.

751 SO WHAT I HAD PENCILED WAS A PROCESS TO ASCERTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THE 752 FUTURE, ITS FUTURE.

753 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FULLY ENCOMPASSES.

754 BUT IT KEEPS IT A SHORT STATEMENT AND ASCERTAIN INSTEAD OF CREATE.

755 CAPTURE SEEMED ROUGH TO ME PERSONALLY.

756 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: SAY IT AGAIN.

757 TO ASCERTAIN -- >> THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE OR ITS FUTURE.

758 I MOVE THE COMMUNITY IN FRONT OF VISION, I THINK THAT HELPS DIRECT THE 759 THOUGHT.

760 >> D FOUST: IS ASCERTAIN A BETTER WORD THAN DISCERN? 761 I'M SERIOUS.

762 >> I THINK IT'S A PERSONAL WORD CHOICE OF MINE.

763 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GOOGLE CONCERN AND ASCERTAIN RIGHT NOW.

764 TO SEE -- >> R DOROTHY: ASCERTAIN, FIND OUT SOMETHING FOR CERTAIN, MAKE 765 SURE OF.

766 WHAT IS THE OTHER? 767 PROCEED OR RECOGNIZE SOMETHING.

768 I CAN DISCERN NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO POLICIES.

769 THAT IS A GOOD SENTENCE.

770 >> COLLECTION VERSUS DECISION ESPECIALLY IN ACTION.

771 >> R DOROTHY: DISCERN IS PRESERVE OR RECOGNIZE SOMETHING.

772 ASCERTAIN TO FIND SOMETHING OUT SOMETHING.

773 MAKE SURE OF.

774 ASCERTAIN TO FIND THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT.

775 I LIKE GETTING RID OF THE CREATE.

776 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I THINK WE'RE ALL THERE.

777 THE GENERAL FEELING.

778 DOES ANYBODY HAVE -- WANT TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. LINDSAY 779 WAS SUGGESTING?

780 >> ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE?

781 >> M GREESON: I THINK THE REVISED, THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO DESIGN AND 782 FACILITATE A PROCESS TO ASCERTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR ITS FUTURE.

783 OR THE FUTURE.

784 >> HOW ABOUT THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON? 785 READ THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON INVITES CONSULTANT PROPOSALS TO DESIGN AND FACILITATE A 786 PROCESS TO ASCERTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON.

787 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGE?

788 >> MOTION.

789 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

790 >> SECOND.

791 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE AMENDED CHANGE FOR THE 792 INTRODUCTION? 793 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

794 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

795 NOW MOVING DOWN TO THE NEXT PART.

796 ANY OTHER CHANGES, SUGGESTIONS OR REVISIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE? 797 DISCUSSION TOPICS? 798 MR. FOUST.

799 >> D FOUST: ARE WE MOVING THROUGH BACKGROUND AND DESCRIPTION DOWN THE LINE?

800 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE 801 CHANGED, WE'LL DO THAT OR ACCEPT WHAT IS HERE.

802 >> D FOUST: I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 4.

803 I APPRECIATE THE Q AND A PROCESS, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF ANY RFP PROCESS.

804 AT THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 4, THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR STRATEGIES TO ENSURE AS MANY 805 CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATE.

806 HERE IS THE PHRASE, THAT PEOPLE IN GROUPS NOT TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN CIVIC 807 DIALOGUE ARE REACHED.

808 IF I WERE A RECIPIENT OF THIS RFP, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT?

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809 ANY THOUGHTS? 810 I'M NOT SURE WHO WE'RE MISSING.

811 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: IF I WERE TO COME OFF WITH THAT MYSELF, IF YOU WALK DOOR TO 812 DOOR, AS JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS HAS, YOU KNOW THAT YOU GET 813 DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN YOU KNOCK AT PEOPLE'S DOORS, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THEY 814 ARE GOING TO WRITE YOU A LETTER, GO ON FACEBOOK OR EMAIL OR THE WEBSITE TO 815 RESPOND.

816 THOSE WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER HOW DO YOU REACH THE PEOPLE THAT NORMALLY 817 DON'T COME OUT OF THE WOOD WORK FOR THEIR VIEWS?

818 >> D FOUST: IF THAT'S THE INTENT, THEN THAT'S THE ANSWER THAT WOULD BE GIVEN, 819 I'M WHOLLY ON BOARD WITH THAT.

820 TO ME IT WAS VAGUE AND COULD GO TO THINGS WAY OUTSIDE WHAT I WOULD PERCEIVE AS 821 BEING A LIKELY TARGET AUDIENCE FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS.

822 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHAT WE COULD PUT IN THERE IS, TO ENSURE AS MANY 823 WORTHINGTON CITIZENS, WHICH KEEPS IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

824 BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THERE IS 825 ONLY SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY TO DO A SURVEY THAT WE WANT TO BE REACHING OUT TO 826 WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS.

827 >> D FOUST: IT COULD SAY RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS NOT TYPICALLY 828 INVOLVED IN CIVIC DIALOGUE.

829 >> D ROBINSON: RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS.

830 >> D FOUST: I LIKE THAT.

831 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I THINK WE'RE AT A LEVEL OF WORD SMITHING NOW, WE'RE GOING TO 832 SAY COMMUNITY GROUPS.

833 WHY DON'T WE SAY WORTHINGTON GROUPS CHARTED 501C3S? 834 WE COULD KEEP GOING AND GOING.

835 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE RETREAT.

836 IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD.

837 WE HAVE OUR PROFESSIONAL CITIZENS, OUR GROUPS THAT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THINGS, THE 838 PEOPLE WE TEND TO SEE ALL THE TIME, THE WORTHINGTON HISTORIC SOCIETY, THEY MAYBE 839 WARD, THOSE GROUPS.

840 BUT THEN WE HAVE THE PEOPLE IF IT HAS TO DO WITH SOMETHING ON THE WEST SIDE 841 OF TOWN, THEY HAVE THEIR FAMILY.

842 THEY DON'T MUCH CARE.

843 THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE, THE WILSON HILLS PEOPLE, THAT DON'T SHOW UP TO COUNCIL 844 MEETINGS.

845 >> D FOUST: WHERE I WAS STRUGGLING, ARE WE TELLING THE RECIPIENT WE WANT THEM 846 TO GO, I HATE TO PICK ON ANYBODY, COLUMBUS OR MORPC.

847 I REALIZE THE DATA THAT IS PROVIDE BIDE GROUPS LIKE THAT, ARE A CONSIDERATION.

848 BUT THEY ARE NOT THE PEOPLE I WANT TO SURVEY.

849 I WANT TO KEEP IT TO WORTHINGTON.

850 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHAT I'M HEARING THAT MIGHT WORK IS THE CITY IS LOOKING 851 FOR STRATEGIES TO ENSURE AS MANY WORTHINGTON CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATE IN THE 852 PEOPLE AND GROUPS NOT TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN CIVIC DIALOGUE ARE REACHED.

853 WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING THE GROUPS.

854 I'M NOT SURE OF ALL THE GROUPS THAT COULD BE OUT THERE.

855 >> D FOUST: WITH APOLOGIES TO MR. MEYERS.

856 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BEYOND THIS.

857 SO I'M PLAYING MY ONE CARD HERE.

858 I COULD DELETE EVERYTHING BEYOND AND THAT PEOPLE AND GROUPS.

859 I COULD DELETE THAT SECOND HALF OF THE SENTENCE AND THAT WOULD FIX MY CONFUSION.

860 BUT AGAIN, IT'S A QUESTION HOW WE EXPLAIN IT TO THE RFP RESPONDENT.

861 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO EXPLAIN TO ME.

862 I'M GOING TO ASK OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS AND LET THEM MAKE THE ASSUMPTIONS.

863 IF THEY SAY WE WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND SEE HOW THEY DID IT THERE.

864 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE WORK.

865 I WANT THEM TO TELL ME HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT.

866 >> D FOUST: AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, I'M OKAY.

867 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: HERE I AM TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD AS USUALLY.

868 >> D FOUST: I'LL WITHDRAWAL THE COMMENT.

869 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: PUT WORTHINGTON IN THERE.

870 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

871 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. FOUST MOVES WE PUT THE WORD WORTHINGTON IN, 872 MR. SMITH SECONDED.

873 ANY DISCUSSION? 874 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

875 OPPOSED.

876 WORTHINGTON HAS BEEN ADDED.

877 NEXT.

878 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I NEED A GENERAL DISCUSSION BECAUSE I'M REALLY LOST.

879 THE STUFF I SENT TO YOU, PLEASE DELETE.

880 THAT WAS STREAM OF CONSCIOUS AFTER WORKING ON IT SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SUNDAY

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881 MORNING.

882 I READ IT AFTERWARDS AND IT MADE NO SENSE AND I ABANDONED THAT APPROACH.

883 I TRIED TO TAKE HERB'S AND YOUR STUFF AND THE RESOLUTION AND CUT AND PASTE 884 STUFF.

885 MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

886 IT WAS WAY TOO MUCH.

887 I DID A BUNCH OF BULLET POINTS OF WHAT I WANT OUT OF THIS PROCESS.

888 WE HAVE IN HERE THOUGH, AND I'M NOT GOING TO WORD SMITH IT, I WANT GENERAL IDEAS.

889 OVERALL PROCESS DESIGN.

890 HOW DOES THAT FIT IN WHAT WE'RE EMBARKING ON WITH PROCESS DESIGN? 891 AT ONE POINT WE TALKED ABOUT SETTING ASIDE SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE BRAINSTORMING ON 892 UNTIL WE HAVE A CONSULTANTS TO HELP US.

893 AS A GROUP WHERE ARE WE AT IN THAT PROCESS.

894 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. SMITH.

895 >> D SMITH: THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE, WHAT I GATHER AS THE GROUP'S CONVERSATION TWO 896 WEEKS AGO, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT UNTIL A FACILITATOR HELPS US AND/OR 897 A COMMITTEE IS SELECTED.

898 THERE ARE THINGS PRIOR TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN FINALIZE DEFINITIVELY.

899 AND THOSE THINGS ARE TWO BULLET POINTS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ARE THE SELECTION 900 PROCESS FOR THE COMMITTEE AND ALSO A JOB DESCRIPTION AND WORK DETAIL THAT MIGHT 901 AGO ALONG WITH THAT TO SEND OUT TO ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE FOLKS 902 INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE COMMITTEE.

903 SO THERE IS SOME CLEAR THINGS WHERE HE CAN DO STARTING TONIGHT, NEXT WEEK, 904 COMMUNITY IN THE WHOLE AND EVEN FINALIZE.

905 I STRONGLY BELIEVE NEXT WEEK WE CAN FINALIZE IT.

906 BUT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROJECT AND VISIONING PROJECT, I THINK WE CAN COME 907 UP WITH IDEAS.

908 WHAT I HEARD FROM LAST MEETING AND WHAT I RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL VIA EMAIL, IT 909 IS A LITTLE DISJOINTED AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT TO FINALIZE UNTIL WE 910 HAVE A COMMITTEE AND/OR FACILITATOR.

911 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. GREESON LOOKS LIKE HE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? 912 NO.

913 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: THAT TAKES THE WEIGHT OFF MY SHOULDERS.

914 >> D SMITH: WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT ALL TONIGHT.

915 916 I HAD ABOUT SIX BULLET POINTS OF THINGS I THINK WE COULD DISCUSS.

917 THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BASIC GOAL OF WHAT THIS THING IS.

918 AND I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF AND I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THEM, BUT THE 919 CONCEPT OF HERB'S QUESTIONS THEY WOULD ASK OR ANSWER.

920 I LIKE THAT FORMAT.

921 THAT HELPS.

922 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALSO, THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT WE TALKED ABOUT 923 TOO.

924 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: THEN THE PROVISION THAT TALKS ABOUT OVERALL PROCESS DESIGN 925 WOULD THEN BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK OF THIS CONSULTANT.

926 OKAY.

927 THAT HELPS IMMENSELY.

928 >> D SMITH: THIS DOCUMENT CONVERSATION I'LL BRING UP THE OTHER POINTS WE CAN TALK 929 ABOUT TOO.

930 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I REALLY AM TRYING HARD TO HERD THE CATS.

931 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? 932 MR. ROBINSON?

933 >> D ROBINSON: MY SECOND AND LAST CARD ABOVE THE SECTION -- >> PRESIDENT B 934 MICHAEL: WHAT PAGE?

935 >> D ROBINSON: 4, ABOVE COUNCILMEMBER FOUST COMMENT, COMMITTEE VISION MISSION.

936 THE SECOND SENTENCE READ AWKWARDLY TO ME.

937 ITS PRODUCT PURPOSE TO INFORM, ENGAGE AND LISTEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO THEREBY 938 ARTICULATE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

939 I DON'T THINK THE USE OF THE WORD, THEREBY, FITS.

940 IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IF YOU SAY AND LISTEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ENABLE 941 A WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY SAYING TO THEREBY ARTICULATE.

942 >>

943 >>

944 >> BY MOTION.

945 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION AND WE WANT TO CHANGE.

946 WE NEED A MOTION TO SET ASIDE OR MOTION TO REOPEN.

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947 WE'LL NEED A PROCEDURAL MECHANISM TO GET TO THAT.

948 I CAN DO A MOTION TO WHAT?

949 >> M GREESON: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

950 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE TO A PARLIAMENTARY.

951 I'M SORRY TO OFFEND YOU MR. LINDSEY.

952 >> NO OFFENSE TAKEN.

953 WE'RE JUST -- 954 IT TAKES MORE THAN THAT TO OFFEND ME.

955 WE WERE CHECKING THE MINUTES TO SEE WHAT ACTION WAS TAKEN.

956 >> D SMITH: WHOEVER MADE THE MOTION OR SECOND CAN REOPEN IT.

957 >> WE'RE CHECKING.

958 >> M GREESON: IT WAS NOT PART OF THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED BY MR. FOUST.

959 OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEADS WE BELIEVE IT OCCURRED BY MOTION.

960 WE'RE CHECKING THAT.

961 >> D ROBINSON: EXCELLENT POINT.

962 THANK YOU.

963 WHAT AM I PROPOSING? 964 PRODUCT PURPOSE TO INFORM, ENGAGE AND LISTEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ENABLE 965 A WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION OF THE COMMUNITY'S ASPIRATIONS FOR THE FUTURE 966 OF WORTHINGTON.

967 TO ENABLE A WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION OF THE COMMUNITY'S ASPIRATIONS FOR 968 THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON.

969 ONE MORE TIME? 970 ARE YOU HEARD ME ENOUGH? 971 TO ENABLE A WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION OF THE COMMUNITY'S ASPIRATIONS FOR 972 THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON.

973 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: ASSUMING WE'RE ALL ON BOARD HOW TO GET THERE.

974 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ONE MORE TIME.

975 ONE QUESTION.

976 JUST -- ENABLE A WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION TO THE COMMUNITY'S

977 ASPIRATIONS OF -- >> D ROBINSON: WELL-GROUNDED ARTICULATION OF THE 978 COMMUNITY'S ASPIRATIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF WORTHINGTON.

979 >> I'M ON PAGE 18, BACK OF PAGE 23.

980 IT READ AFTER A GREAT DEAL OF -- SEVERAL PAGES OF DISCUSSION, MR. MEYERS 981 OFFERED THE FOLLOWING MISSION STATEMENT.

982 IT'S BRILLIANT, BY THE WAY.

983 ITS PRODUCT TO DISCERN AND ARTICULATE THE NEEDS, VALUES AND ASPIRATIONS OF THE 984 COMMUNITY BY INFORMING, ENGAGING AND LISTENING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO THEREBY 985 ARTICULATE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

986 IT HAS A ROBINSON QUALITY TO IT.

987 >> D ROBINSON: YOU ARE TRYING TO GET BACK AT ME FOR UPSETTING YOU EARLIER.

988 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. MEYERS -- >> PRO TEM S MYERS: BECAUSE I PROPOSED 989 DOESN'T MEAN THERE WAS A MOTION.

990 IF WE SAID, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

991 >> I WOULD LIKE TO OBSERVE MR. FOUST SUCCEEDED IN INSULTING BOTH OF US IN ONE 992 SENTENCE.

993 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I MOVE TO ACCEPT MR. ROBINSON'S LANGUAGE, CONTINGENT ON 994 PROCEDURAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT MAYBE DISCOVERED.

995 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE MOTION BUT I'M GOING WITH IT.

996 >> D SMITH: SECOND.

997 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. SMITH SECONDS.

998 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: GIVE MR. ROBINSON THE MOTION.

999 IT'S HIS LANGUAGE, OKAY?

1000 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. MEYERS MOVES, SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON.

1001 OKAY.

1002 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT? 1003 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

1004 OPPOSED? 1005 ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES? 1006 NO? 1007 GOING ONCE? 1008 TWICE? 1009 THREE TIMES.

1010 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

1011 ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

1012 CONGRATULATIONS.

1013 WE GOT IT THROUGH.

1014 SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MR. GREESON.

1015 TO START GETTING THIS GOING.

1016 >> M GREESON: LET ME TALK A LITTLE PROCESS, IF I MAY.

1017 MR. BARNHARDT IS TYPING, HAS THE TASK OF HELPING ASSEMBLE WHAT A CONSULTANT ROSTER 1018 LIST FOR THIS.

1019 WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IT.

1020 IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY YOU THINK IS WELL QUALIFIED, EMAIL US.

1021 WE WOULD BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

1022 OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

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1023 BUT ALSO, HAVE A ROBUST ROSTER OF POTENTIAL CONSULTANTS FOR IT.

1024 THERE IS A COUPLE OF KEY QUESTIONS.

1025 ONE IS HOW YOU WANT TO MANAGE THE SELECTION.

1026 DOES THE WHOLE COUNCIL WANT TO SERVE AS THE SELECTION COMMITTEE? 1027 OR A SUBSET OF COUNCIL? 1028 OR DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT A SELECTION COMMITTEE? 1029 YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TONIGHT BUT IT'S A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU.

1030 AND THEN WE'LL BUILD A SCHEDULE THAT WE THINK IS CUSTOMARY FOR THIS TYPE OF 1031 RFP PROCESS.

1032 WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE IT ON THE STREET FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND ADEQUATE TIME FOR THE 1033 COMMITTEE OR YOU TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS.

1034 AND THEN PEOPLE, IF THEY ARE SELECTED TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS, A REASONABLE 1035 AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THEM TO PREPARE THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND MAKE TRAVEL PLANS IF 1036 THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL.

1037 >> D FOUST: I HAVE A QUESTION AND A THOUGHT ON THAT MR. GREESON.

1038 DO YOU HAVE A SENSE ON HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT RESPOND TO THIS RFP RANGE?

1039 >> M GREESON: NO.

1040 I MEAN, IT DEPENDS HOW FAR AND WIDE WE -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL GET AT LEAST 1041 FIVE QUALIFIED FIRMS.

1042 >> D FOUST: MY DAY JOB WE LOOK TO STAFF OR CONSULTANT TO TAKE THAT FIELD AND 1043 NARROW IT DOWN, BRING IT TO US AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND HAVE US LOOK AT THE TOP 1044 TWO.

1045 I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

1046 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANYBODY NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

1047 >> THREE.

1048 >> D ROBINSON: COULD WE MAKE IT THREE AND MAKE AVAILABLE THE DOCUMENTS WE 1049 RECEIVE?

1050 >> M GREESON: ABSOLUTELY.

1051 IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE I BELIEVE WHILE WE'RE CAPABLE AND QUALIFIED TO DO 1052 THAT, I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF QUALITY PROPOSALS AND I ENCOURAGE 1053 COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT IN THAT PROCESS.

1054 >> D ROBINSON: IN SCREENING IT.

1055 >> M GREESON: I DO THINK THERE IS SOME VALUE IN COUNCIL BEING ENGAGED IN 1056 THAT PROCESS.

1057 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ONE QUESTION.

1058 DOES ALL OF COUNCIL WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SCREENING OR A SUBGROUP WORKING WITH 1059 STAFF TO COME DOWN TO THE FINAL THREE? 1060 THOUGHTS? 1061 MR. FOUST.

1062 >> D FOUST: PERHAPS LIKE THE GRANT PROCESS WE COULD IDENTIFY A NUMBER TWO OR 1063 THREE COUNCILMEMBERS TO WORK WITH STAFF JOINTLY.

1064 I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE OUT THERE, WHERE 1065 WE CAN TAP INTO IT, BASICALLY LOOK AT IT, IS GREAT.

1066 BUT AGAIN, LIKE THE GRANTS WE JUST APPROVED I THINK IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF 1067 COUNCILMEMBERS PARTNERING WITH STAFF TO NARROW THE FIELD.

1068 >> R DOROTHY: BUT SO IF WE'RE -- THIS IS NOT REALLY ANALOGOUS.

1069 BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT APPOINTING ANYONE, WE HAVE A SLEW OF RESUMES.

1070 WE PICK THE TOP THREE AND SUBMIT AND NARROW IT FROM THERE.

1071 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHEN YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS, I'M ASSUMING THEY 1072 ARE BE LONGER THAN A RESUME.

1073 >> THE RESPONSES WILL BE A WEIGHTY PROJECT.

1074 >> R DOROTHY: OKAY.

1075 YEAH.

1076 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE WHO THE PEOPLE ARE AT 1077 THIS POINT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED AN IDEA HOW MANY PROPOSALS COME IN AND FIGURE 1078 OUT FROM THERE.

1079 PLUS, WE DON'T HAVE ALL SEVEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

1080 SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

1081 IT'S THE GENERAL CONCEPT WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL THAT WORKS WITH 1082 STAFF ON REVIEWING.

1083 EVERYBODY CAN REVIEW, AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS THOUGHTS CAN GIVE THEM TO WHOEVER IS 1084 GOING TO BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

1085 >> M GREESON: I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

1086 IT GETS BACK TO MY QUESTION TO MATT, WHICH IS THE UNKNOWN.

1087 IF YOU GET THREE OR FOUR RESPONSES THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM 12 OR 14 RESPONSES.

1088 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: THAT'S THE TIME WE FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

1089 >> M GREESON: MY ANSWER WAS ESTIMATED NUMBER OF QUALITY RESPONSES.

1090 HOW MANY TOTAL RESPONSES WE'LL GET?

1091 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MAYBE A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

1092 >> M GREESON: I DON'T KNOW.

1093 >> FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY OTHER LIFE WE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR RESPONSES FOR A WELLNESS 1094 VENDOR, WE WILL LITERALLY 15 ORGANIZATIONS RESPOND.

1095 AND SO YOU HAVE TO START DOING THE FAST CUTS OF WHAT ARE SOME OF THE DEAL 1096 BREAKERS.

1097 IF THEY COULDN'T DO BUSINESS STATEWIDE IN OHIO, THAT WAS A DEAL BREAKER.

1098 YOU HAVE TO DO THE ROUGH CUT TO GET A MANAGEABLE NUMBER.

1099 >> M GREESON: WE MAY WHAT ABOUT TO PROJECT WHAT THE -- WANT TO PROJECT WHAT THE 1100 PROCESS IS.

1101 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY 1102 COUNCIL WE'LL SCREEN TO A NUMBER THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY COUNCIL.

1103 THAT'S HOW WE'LL ARTICULATE THE PROCESS TO RESPECTIVE RESPONDENTS.

1104 MR. GREESON?

1105 >> M GREESON: JUST A NORMAL REPORT WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE.

1106 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: IT'S APPROACHING, 10 MINUTES TO 9:00.

1107 DO WE WANT BEFORE WE GO INTO REPORTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS AND REPORTS OF CITY 1108 OFFICIALS, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FURTHER ON THE VISIONING PROCESSING 1109 TONIGHT? 1110 WHY DON'T YOU THROW OUT IDEAS AND WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO WORK ON IT

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1111 TONIGHT? 1112 WE'RE TRYING HARD TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1113 >> I MADE THE MISTAKE OF USING THE WORD, EASY, LAST TIME.

1114 BUT I USE THAT WORD WITH ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF DANGER.

1115 THIS SHOULD BE AN EASY QUESTION TO ASK AND ANSWER.

1116 IT'S MORE PHILOSOPHICAL I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE UP HERE BEFORE WE 1117 DETERMINE A SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE COMMITTEE.

1118 AND THE PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION IS HOW BIG DO WE WANT THIS THING? 1119 IN THE THREE OPTIONS THAT ONE AND TWO CAME FROM DR. MARLOWE AND THE THIRD 1120 WAS MORE OR LESS A COMPROMISE WITH MY OWN THOUGHTS.

1121 WE HAD A QUANTITY OF SEVEN AND WE HAD A QUANTITY OF 15 MEMBERS AND THEN A QUANTITY 1122 WITH 13 MEMBERS.

1123 THAT'S ONE QUESTION WE SHOULD ANSWER, I THINK OR START TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

1124 AND THE SECOND BEING HOW WE APPOINT THEM OR HOW THE COMMITTEE APPOINTS A CHAIR.

1125 WHETHER WE APPOINTED THE CHAIR DIRECTLY AS ONE OF THE COMMITTEE OR SHOULD WE LET 1126 THEM DECIDE AMONGST THEMSELVES.

1127 THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO LOW-HANGING-FRUIT QUESTIONS.

1128 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I KNOW THAT BETH KOWALCZYK IS NOT HERE BUT SHE SENT AN 1129 EMAIL THAT SHE SUPPORTS THE MARLOWE PROCESS FOR SELECTION FOR THE NUMBER OF 1130 PEOPLE.

1131 JUST SO THAT HER VIEW IS AT LEAST BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE MEETING.

1132 OKAY?

1133 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WAS HER 13 OR 15? 1134 -- HERB.

1135 >> 15.

1136 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: HIS 15 WAS COUNCIL HAS A WHOLE APPOINT SEVEN PLUS A 1137 CHAIRMAN, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO 15?

1138 >> D SMITH: SEVEN PLUS A CHAIRMAN.

1139 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I THEN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, EACH COUNCILMEMBER WOULD 1140 APPOINT A PERSON.

1141 THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST SEVEN.

1142 >> D SMITH: CORRECT.

1143 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: AND COUNCIL HAS A WHOLE WOULD APPOINT SEVEN THROUGH 1144 APPLICATIONS AND THEN COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WOULD APPOINT A CHAIRMAN? 1145 I HAD A SLIGHT VARIATION ON THAT.

1146 THAT INSTEAD OF 15 WE GO TO 13 WITH SEVEN APPOINTED BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS.

1147 SIX BY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE BASED ON APPLICATIONS WITH ESSENTIALLY THE CRITERIA 1148 THAT HERB HAD PUT DOWN.

1149 AND THEN THEY APPOINT THEIR OWN CHAIR PERSON AND VICE CHAIR PERSON.

1150 >> D SMITH: I CALL THAT ASSESSMENT AND RECOMMENDATION A PERFECT 1151 MISHMASH OF HIS IDEA AND MINE.

1152 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: MASH UP IS THE EMAIL I SENT TO YOU.

1153 I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO A LOT OF MIX TAPES THIS WEEKEND.

1154 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHAT DO OTHER PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE MISHMASH?

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1155 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: EIGHT TRACKS.

1156 >> R DOROTHY: YOU HAVE AN EIGHT TRACK PLAYER?

1157 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: NOT ANYMORE.

1158 >> R DOROTHY: I CAN SEE MERITS IN BOTH APPOINTING A CHAIR PERSON AND HAVING THE 1159 GROUP APPOINT.

1160 YOU ARE NOT SURE THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.

1161 WHEN I WAS ON THE FACILITY COMMISSION BOARD FOR THE SCHOOL, WE DEFINITELY 1162 SELECTED OUR OWN CHAIR PERSON WITHIN THAT.

1163 BUT IT TOOK AN EXTRA SEVERAL MONTHS/MEETINGS.

1164 IT WHOLE PROCESS WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE LESS THAN A YEAR AND ENDED UP BEING 18 1165 MONTHS OVER A YEAR AND A HALF.

1166 IT WILL STRING OUT THE PROCESS, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD.

1167 SO I MEAN WE COULD -- AND I SEE THE REASON WHY WE MIGHT WANT TO SELECT A CHAIR 1168 PERSON AND ALSO SEE A REASON NOT TO, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ARE GOING TO HAVE 1169 SIGNIFICANT ROLES.

1170 I CAN SEE PROS AND CONS.

1171 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHICH WAY DO YOU SUPPORT?

1172 >> R DOROTHY: PROLONGING THE PROCESS.

1173 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHICH DO YOU THINK IS BETTER? 1174 I'M TRYING TO BRING IT IN.

1175 A OR B?

1176 >> R DOROTHY: I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

1177 ONE OF MY OTHER COMMENTS IS I REALLY NEED A FACILITATOR.

1178 I DON'T DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

1179 THIS IS OUT OF MY REALM OF WHAT I THINK I DO WELL.

1180 I REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO HELP GUIDE US AND ME WITH THIS PROCESS.

1181 SOMEONE WHO HAD EXPERIENCE.

1182 I WAS HAPPY WITH HERB.

1183 HE BROUGHT FORTH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.

1184 HE'S DONE COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AND VISIONING FOR A WHOLE HOST OF COMMUNITIES.

1185 CURRENTLY WORKING WITH PARKLAND COMMUNITY WITH THEIR PROBLEMS. 1186 AND HOPEFULLY WITH THIS RFP WE'RE SENDING OUT WE'LL HAVE OTHER REALLY WELL QUALIFIED 1187 PEOPLE WHO ARE HOPEFULLY MORE LOCAL.

1188 YES, I'M NOT SURE.

1189 I NEED HELP.

1190 I NEED SOMEONE WITH PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE.

1191 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. MEYERS.

1192 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I DON'T -- I MEAN, I THINK I HAVE TALKED TO PRETTY MUCH UP 1193 HERE.

1194 I AM NOT AS CONCERNED WITH THE TIMELINE AS I AM WITH THE VALIDITY AND INTEGRITY 1195 OF THE RESULT.

1196 MY FIRST BULLET POINT HAD INDEPENDENT, AUTONOMOUS, COMMUNITY DRIVEN, CITIZEN 1197 LED.

1198 THAT WAS MY OVERARCHING GOAL FOR THIS THING.

1199 IT HAS TO HAVE A LITTLE NATURE OF ORGANIC TO IT.

1200 I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF THIS COMMITTEE IS DYSFUNCTIONAL BECAUSE THEY PICK THE WRONG 1201 CHAIRMAN.

1202 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US STEPPING IN AND SAYING YOU HAVE TO FIX IT BECAUSE 1203 IT'S NOT WORKING.

1204 THAT'S THE KIND OF CONTROL I SEE US, KIND OF LIKE A CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHTS 1205 COMMITTEE MAKING SURE THEY ARE GETTING IT DONE.

1206 THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.

1207 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOW LONG IT TAKES.

1208 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. ROBINSON.

1209 >> D ROBINSON: I CAN FULLY ENDORSE YOUR MISHMASH PROPOSAL.

1210 THE ISSUE, TO ME, THE COMMITTEE DETERMINING ITS OWN CHAIR IS IMPORTANT FOR 1211 WHAT I WOULD CALL PRACTICAL AND SYMBOLIC REASONS.

1212 IF THIS PROCESS IS AT BOTTOM INTENDED TO BE A CITIZEN-LED PROCESS, THEN I THINK 1213 ENABLING THE COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE ITSELF WHO THEIR CHAIR SHOULD BE REFLECTS 1214 THAT IDEA.

1215 AND THEREFORE, CONVEYS THE MESSAGE WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT BEING CITIZEN-LED.

1216 THE PROCESS OF THE GROUP GOING THROUGH THE DISCERNMENT ASCERTAINING 1217 PROCESS AMONGST THEMSELVES COULD BUILD A CORE AND RESULT IN PROBABLY A BETTER

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1218 FUNCTIONING COMMITTEE ULTIMATELY.

1219 I THINK YOUR PROPOSAL IS SOUND.

1220 >> D FOUST: I'LL GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

1221 I HEARD WORDS LIKE INTEGRITY AND CITIZEN-LED.

1222 ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AT A REASONABLE PACE.

1223 AND NOT PROLONG IT NEEDLESSLY.

1224 BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED OUR ACT OF HELPING SELECT A LEADER, I 1225 MEAN ONE, WE COULD BE ACCUSED OF DRIVING THE PROCESS BY THE CONSULTANT, 1226 BY SELECTING A CHAIR.

1227 IF WE IDENTIFY A CHAIR WHO HAS THE SKILL SET TO KEEP THE GROUP ON TASK, WE'RE NOT 1228 DRIVING THE OUTCOME BY ANY STRETCH.

1229 BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO GIVE INPUT.

1230 I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE GUIDANCE TO THIS GROUP IN 1231 TERMS OF GETTING THE FRAMEWORK SET UP AND GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.

1232 >> 1233 KNOWING THE SEVEN PEOPLE UP HERE, THE CALIBER OF APPOINTMENTS THAT WE ARE 1234 GOING TO MAKE.

1235 AND I WOULD JUST ABOUT BET THAT ANY ONE OF THE SEVEN WE WOULD APPOINT UP HERE WOULD 1236 BE COMPETENT TO LEAD THAT ORGANIZATION.

1237 AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M WRONG.

1238 AND MAYBE THINGS WILL SHAKE OUT DIFFERENTLY.

1239 MAYBE THE CONSULTANT WILL WANT TO START WITH A RETREAT.

1240 BUT IT MIGHT BE THAT THE GROUP FEELS THAT THE PEOPLE WE APPOINTED HAVE A LITTLE 1241 BIT MORE CREDIBILITY THAN THE OTHERS BECAUSE WE APPOINTED THEM.

1242 I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL WORKOUT.

1243 EVEN THE ONES WE DON'T INDIVIDUALLY APPOINT WE'LL SELECT BY NOMINATION 1244 PROCESS.

1245 WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT ANY ONE OF THE PEOPLE WE PICK COULD BE CHAIRMAN.

1246 SO WE BETTER APPOINT 13 PEOPLE THAT ARE CHAIRMAN CALIBER.

1247 THAT MIGHT END UP MEANING WE HAVE TO STAFF IT WITH A RESOURCE OFFICER.

1248 BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET A LITTLE HEATED DURING MEETINGS, I DON'T KNOW.

1249 BUT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PRETTY STRONG INDIVIDUALS ON THE 1250 COMMITTEE.

1251 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I'M TRYING TO KEEP US MOVING FORWARD.

1252 GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT 13 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER? 1253 AND THAT WE DO EACH COUNCILMEMBER APPOINTS ONE AND WE HAVE A POOL, COUNCIL 1254 OF A WHOLE, BASED ON PEOPLE WHO SUBMITTED RESUMES AND WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1255 >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS EACH COUNCILMEMBER WOULD PICK ONE

1256 -- >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: THAT'S NOT WHAT I HAVE HEARD.

1257 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A VETO OVER MY APPOINTMENT AND I WOULD 1258 NOT OVER YOURS.

1259 YOU WOULD APPOINT.

1260 THAT'S UP TO YOU.

1261 WHOEVER YOU WANT TO APPOINT YOU APPOINT AND THEY ARE ON.

1262 WHOEVER I WANT, I APPOINT AND THEY ARE ON.

1263 >> D SMITH: THE ONLY STATEMENT, FIVE WORDS IN OPTION THREE, WHICH IS 1264 EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, JUST TO 1265 CLARIFY THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN COUNCILMEMBERS.

1266 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHOSE OPTION THREE?

1267 >> D SMITH: THE 13 MEMBERS, SEVEN PEOPLE, EACH COUNCILMEMBER.

1268 THAT'S MY MISHMASH.

1269 ME.

1270 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.

1271 TRYING TO FIGURE WE'VE HAVE HAD SO MANY THINGS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE AUTHOR.

1272 >> D SMITH: THE ONLY THING WE DIDN'T DISCUSS WAS APPROVE BY MAJORITY COUNCIL.

1273 YOU SAID THE WORD VETO AND IT GIVES SOME IDEA OF THAT ONE MEMBER CAN VETO.

1274 I THINK IT'S MAJORITY BASED AS OPPOSED TO ONE PERSON CAN SAY NAY.

1275 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: MY PROPOSAL WAS APPOINTED NOT -- 1276 DIFFERENT.

1277 >> D SMITH: OKAY.

1278 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: LET'S SEE IF WE CAN KEEP US MOVING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.

1279 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I WANT TO MAKE A CASE FOR MAKING IT -- >> D ROBINSON: BY 1280 MAJORITY VOTE.

1281 FIRST OF ALL, I EXPECT ALL OF YOUR NOMINEES WOULD RECEIVE THAT.

1282 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY EGREGIOUS TO NOT.

1283 AND I DON'T SEE ANY OF US DOING THAT.

1284 I THINK IN TERMS OF GETTING FULL BUY IN FROM OUR BODY FOR THE COMPOSITION OF THE

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1285 COMMITTEE I SUGGEST WE HAVE A VOTE FOR EACH NOMINEE.

1286 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: AT THE END BEFORE THE NIGHT IS OVER, THERE IS GOING TO BE 1287 12 PEOPLE THAT GET APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND THEN THEY WILL PICK A 13TH PERSON.

1288 >> R DOROTHY: NO.

1289 THAT'S CRAZY.

1290 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: NOW YOU ARE CHANGING EVERYTHING.

1291 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: 13 PEOPLE.

1292 BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THOSE 13 PEOPLE WOULD BE APPROVED AS A BODY, AS THE 1293 COMMITTEE? 1294 NO?

1295 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: NO.

1296 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OKAY.

1297 LISTEN.

1298 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I AM.

1299 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: WE HAVE A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD LOVE 1300 TO HEAR ARGUMENTS FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.

1301 OKAY? 1302 MY PROPOSAL IS THAT THERE ARE SEVEN APPOINTED MEMBERS.

1303 NO VOTE, NO NOTHING.

1304 I APPOINT.

1305 THAT PERSON IS ON.

1306 THEN WE HAVE THREE OR SIX THAT ARE NOMINATED AND THEN APPROVED BY A MAJORITY VOTE 1307 OF COUNCIL BASED UPON APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET FROM AN ADVERTISEMENT OR 1308 HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT.

1309 THAT'S MY PROPOSAL.

1310 MR. ROBINSON'S COUNTER IS THE SEVEN COUNCIL ARE NOMINATED, NOT APPOINTED AND 1311 THEY ARE CONFIRMED BY A MAJORITY VOTE.

1312 WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP?

1313 >> IF IN THE END WE GO WITH THAT METHOD, YOUR METHOD.

1314 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: APPOINT OR NOMINATE?

1315 >> AS WE DO WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WE LOOK AT THE POOL OF APPLICANTS WE SEE 1316 FOR THE OTHER SIX.

1317 IN THE END THE GROUP OF SEVEN HAS TO VOTE AND ACCEPT THE ENTIRE BODY OF 13, 1318 RIGHT?

1319 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: NOT UNDER MY PROPOSAL.

1320 >> D FOUST: THAT IS FINE.

1321 WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE SIX?

1322 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: ONLY VOTE ON THE SIX.

1323 OKAY? 1324 I'M -- I CAN GO EITHER WAY.

1325 WHAT I DON'T WANT I AM ASSUMING WHEN THE SEVEN OF US GO OUT TO SEEK OUR 1326 APPOINTMENTS WE'RE GOING TO GET JUST BY THE VERY NATURE OF WHERE WE LIVE, WHO WE 1327 ARE, OUR BACKGROUNDS WE'RE GOING TO GET A CROSS SECTION.

1328 THEN GET WHAT WE MISSED, SOCIOECONOMICS, WHATEVER.

1329 I'M ASSUMING THAT'S HOW IT WILL WORK.

1330 WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T? 1331 WHAT HAPPENS IF ALL OF US -- IF WE PICK SEVEN BERNIE SANDERS LIBERALS, FOR 1332 EXAMPLE.

1333 THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET US A GOOD RESULT.

1334 >> R DOROTHY: WHAT ARE YOUR TALKING ABOUT? 1335 OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE IS A BERNIE SANDERS' SUPPORTER.

1336 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I'M SAYING, I CAN GO EITHER WAY.

1337 I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN IT WORKS WE APPOINT AND NOMINATE.

1338 IF I HAVE TO GIVE UP, VOTE ON THE SEVEN, OKAY.

1339 I'M FINE WITH THAT.

1340 I'LL HOLD ROBINSON TO HIS REPRESENTATION THAT WILL BE UNLIKELY.

1341 >> D ROBINSON: CAN YOU MAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR APPOINTMENT?

1342 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I BELIEVE IF IT'S APPOINTMENT WE'RE GOING TO GET A CROSS 1343 SECTION THAT DEPOLITICIZING THE PROCESS.

1344 I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF PERSON.

1345 SOMEONE WHO IS A LONG-STANDING MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS TIES TO 1346 THE COMMUNITY, EXPRESSED OPINIONS ON COMMUNITY ISSUES IN THE PAST.

1347 I MIGHT PICK SOMEONE FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

1348 SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT PICK SOMEONE FROM THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMUNITY.

1349 AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THE CROSS SECTION BASED UPON OUR OWN BELIEFS AND BACKGROUND.

1350 >> D SMITH: YOU ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY FOR ME TO APPOINT MYSELF WITHOUT 1351 COUNCIL APPROVING THAT?

1352 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I THINK WE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING WE WERE TALKING 1353 ABOUT NOT HAVING COUNCILMEMBERS SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE.

1354 OTHERWISE IT REMOVES -- >> PRO TEM S MYERS: YOU RAISE A POINT.

1355 WE CAN FIX THAT WITH DRAFTING.

1356 THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE IF ONE OF US APPOINTED OURSELVES.

1357 THAT WOULD RUIN THE PROCESS.

1358 I WOULD DO EVERYTHING YOU COULD TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T GET REELECTED.

1359 I TAKE THAT ONE VERY PERSONAL, SMITH.

1360 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I THINK THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WE WANT THIS TO BE COMMUNITY 1361 LED.

1362 I THINK EVERYONE SAID, IT NEEDS TO BE A COMMUNITY LED PROCESS.

1363 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE SEVEN?

1364 >> R DOROTHY: I WROTE DOWN WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT 7 APPOINTMENTS AND SIX COMMON

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1365 APPLICATIONS THAT WE ALL AGREED ON.

1366 AND I WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

1367 I THOUGHT OBVIOUSLY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON, COUNCILMEMBER, WHICH I 1368 ASSUME THE COUNCILMEMBER WOULD NOT APPOINT THEMSELVES WOULD TRY TO PICK A 1369 REPRESENTATIVE THAT MOST FULLY ALIGNED WITH THEIR VIEWPOINTS AND TRIED TO GET 1370 MORE OTHER SIX COMMON PEOPLE WITH THE ONES WE ALL AGREED TO.

1371 I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

1372 BUT I -- AND I AM A BIT CONFUSED ABOUT HAVING EVERY SINGLE ONE BE APPROVED.

1373 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FIVE PEOPLES' APPOINTMENTS ARE APPROVED AND TWO DON'T AND 1374 WE HAVE TO GET MORE PEOPLE.

1375 >> D ROBINSON: COUNCILMEMBER WOULD HAVE TO APPOINT A SECOND PERSON OR 1376 NOMINATE A SECOND PERSON UNDER THE APPROACH.

1377 >> R DOROTHY: WHAT WOULD BE THE REASONING FOR NOT TO DENY THAT PERSON?

1378 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: DON'T LIKE THEIR TIE.

1379 WHATEVER REASON YOU WANT.

1380 YEAH.

1381 JUST TO BRING THIS TO A HEAD.

1382 I WOULD MOVE THAT WE CREATE A VISIONING COMMITTEE BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA: 1383 EACH COUNCILMEMBER WILL APPOINT A MEMBER OF HIS OR HER CHOOSING THAT MEMBER 1384 CANNOT BE A COUNCILMEMBER OR A MEMBER OF A CURRENT BOARD OR COMMISSION OR STAFF.

1385 AND THAT WE ADVERTISE FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX MEMBERS AND THAT WE SELECT SIX MEMBERS 1386 BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF COUNCIL BASED UPON APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AS A 1387 RESULT OF THAT ADVERTISEMENT.

1388 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: IS THERE A SECOND? 1389 WE HAVE A MOTION.

1390 IS THERE A SECOND?

1391 >> R DOROTHY: SECOND.

1392 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

1393 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I'LL CALL IT QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON IF IT GOES 1394 DOWN.

1395 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING AS INTRODUCED, SIGNIFY BY 1396 SAYING AYE.

1397 OPPOSED? 1398 YOU MOVED THIS FORWARD.

1399 AND THEN I THINK WE DECIDED ANOTHER THING TONIGHT.

1400 AND THAT WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO APPOINT ITS OWN CHAIR? 1401 I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE NOTHING FALLS BELOW.

1402 >> R DOROTHY: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE CAVEAT, LIKE THE PROCESS WE'RE TOTALLY OKAY 1403 WITH THAT.

1404 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WE ACCOMPLISHED A GOOD BIT IN THAT WE GOT THE, WENT OVER 1405 THE RFP TO GET OUT.

1406 WE DETERMINED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND HOW THE CHAIR 1407 WILL BE APPOINTED.

1408 COUNCIL, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT.

1409 I'M PROUD OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE GOOD, 1410 STRONG DECISIONS.

1411 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH MY MOTION.

1412 I'M SORRY.

1413 I WOULD LIKE TO REOPEN DISCUSSIONS ON THIS.

1414 WITH THE EXISTING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

1415 BECAUSE I NOT SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON BOARDS AND 1416 COMMISSIONS.

1417 I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WIFA.

1418 >> R DOROTHY: I THOUGHT YOU DID IT TO REACH OUT AMONG THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE 1419 DON'T NORMALLY DO.

1420 I THOUGHT IT WAS A PURPOSEFUL LANGUAGE.

1421 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I KNOW.

1422 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE HAVE BOARDS OF AND COMMISSIONS AND A LOT OF

1423 GOOD PEOPLE ON THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT MIGHT -- >> R DOROTHY: THEY 1424 COULD BE A PART OF THE SIX.

1425 I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY PURPOSEFUL LANGUAGE.

1426 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: THEY COULD BE PART OF THE SIX.

1427 YOU ARE RIGHT.

1428 I'M GOOD.

1429 THANK YOU.

1430 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OKAY.

1431 I THINK WE WOUND UP OUR VISIONING DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT.

1432 AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONTO ANY OTHER REPORTS FROM CITY OFFICIALS? 1433 MR. GREESON?

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1434 >> M GREESON: YEAH.

1435 REAL QUICKLY IN YOUR WEEKLY PACKET, THERE WAS A NOTICE ABOUT AN UPCOMING MIDDLE 1436 SCHOOL MEETING LATER THIS WEEK, WORTHINGTON WAY MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL IS 1437 HOSTING WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE EXPANSION AND RENOVATION 1438 OF WORTHINGTON WAY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

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1439 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF REALLY REPRESENTATIVES FROM SERVICE, PLANNING, 1440 FIRE, ALL HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR THE SCHOOLS ON 1441 THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ISSUES LIKE THAT, PROVIDING TECHNICAL FEEDBACK.

1442 BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THE PUBLIC THIS WEEK 1443 ABOUT IDEAS.

1444 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHERE IS THE INFORMATION?

1445 >> M GREESON: IN THE WEEKLY INFORMATION PACK THAT WENT OUT FRIDAY, A BLUE, 1446 ONE-PAGE.

1447 YEP.

1448 THAT'S IT.

1449 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: OKAY.

1450 FOUND IT.

1451 >> M GREESON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE AND WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGING WITH 1452 THE TECHNICAL TEAM ON THE WORTHINGTON WAY SITE AND SOME OF THE OTHER MIDDLE 1453 SCHOOL SITES AS THEY START TO ROLL OUT THEIR PROJECTS.

1454 ALSO, WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE PURCHASED RENEWABLE ENERGY CERTIFICATES.

1455 BASED ON OUR KILOWATT HOUR USAGE LAST YEAR AND HAVE PROCURED RECS BASED ON 1456 ESTIMATED KILOWATT HOURS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

1457 I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME BUT I'LL INCLUDE THE INFORMATION IN OUR UPCOMING 1458 PACKET.

1459 WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ELECTRIC AGGREGATION EFFORT.

1460 WE EXPECT ENERGY ALLIANCES REPORTS, PCO CERTIFICATION ON THAT FAIRLY SOON.

1461 WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TERMS OF NEXT STEP IS THEY WILL GET THE CUSTOMER LIST FROM AEP.

1462 THAT TELLS US THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T ALREADY SECURED THEIR OWN 1463 ENERGY THROUGH A CHOICE PROGRAM.

1464 AND THEN THEY WILL BEGIN ON OUR BEHALF AS OUR BROKER, IF YOU WILL, THE SUPPLIER BID 1465 PROCESS.

1466 I'LL GIVE MORE UPDATES AS WE START TO UNFOLD THAT.

1467 LASTLY, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TOPIC NEXT WEEK WE'RE PROPOSING THE 1468 NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.

1469 MR. MEYERS, MR. LINDSEY HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THAT 1470 COMMISSION.

1471 AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS FROM THE 1472 WHOLE COUNCIL SO WE CAN MASSAGE AND ULTIMATELY BRING FORWARD A REVISED AND 1473 REFINED NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE.

1474 DO YOU WANT FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THE VISIONING EFFORT NEXT WEEK 1475 AT ALL?

1476 OR YOU WANT TO -- >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: 1477 WHOLE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD AT LEAST PART OF EACH MEETING TO GET IT 1478 GOING.

1479 >> M GREESON: OKAY.

1480 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: A DRAFT OF THE CRITERIA FOR A JOB DESCRIPTION AND ALSO 1481 TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO 1482 MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING, HOW DO WE WANT TO DESCRIBE SERVING TO DO WHAT, 1483 A NEWS RELEASE WHERE WE'RE CALLING FOR PEOPLE, INTERESTED IN WHAT? 1484 AND HAVING THAT BETTER DEFINED.

1485 MR. SMITH.

1486 >> D SMITH: I DID CREATE A DRAFT DOCUMENT OF THE PROCESS OR JOB DESCRIPTION 1487 RATHER, AND THEN I GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION YESTERDAY THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO 1488 INCORPORATE IN THE DOCUMENT.

1489 SO I WILL PREPARE THAT THIS WEEK AND SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.

1490 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.

1491 >> D FOUST: YOUR COMMENT ABOUT QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO ADDED DISCRIMINATION 1492 PIECE.

1493 ARE THOSE QUESTIONS YOU CAN CIRCULATE IN ADVANCE SO WE CAN, THE COUNCIL CAN LOOK

1494 PRIOR TO -- >> M GREESON: I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO A MATRIX OF SORTS.

1495 MAYBE NOT SPECIFIC WORDING BUT A MATRIX OF THE ISSUED THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WHERE 1496 COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK MAYBE VALUABLE.

1497 MOST OF THEM CENTER AROUND THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES.

1498 AND WE ALSO HAVE INPUT FROM PUBLIC MEETING.

1499 THERE WAS A DECENT TURN OUT AT THE PUBLIC MEETING AND WE HAD QUESTIONS WE CAN SHARE 1500 WITH YOU AS WELL.

1501 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANYTHING ELSE?

1502 >> M GREESON: NO.

1503 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MS. THRESS? 1504 MR. LINDSEY?

1505 >> BRIEFLY, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

1506 I WANTED TO UPDATE HOUSE BILL 49 LITIGATION THE CITY WAS ONE OF THE MULTITUDE OF

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1507 CITIES BEING A PART OF THAT LITIGATION CHALLENGING HOUSE BILL 49 HAS A DECISION WAS 1508 RENDERED ON JANUARY 29, AS I THINK HAD INDICATED TO COUNCIL BEFORE.

1509 THE COALITION OF CITIES HAS FILED A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION WITH THE 1510 COURT OF APPEALS IN FEBRUARY.

1511 STATE OF OHIO FILED A MOTION CONTRA AND COALITION FILED A SUBSEQUENT RESPONSE TO THAT.

1512 AND SO THAT IS SITTING WITH THE COURT OF APPEALS FOR DETERMINATION ON THE MOTION 1513 TO RECONSIDERATION.

1514 THAT ACTION STAYS THE TIME PERIOD IN WHICH THEY HAVE TO SEEK REVIEW BY THE OHIO 1515 SUPREME COURT.

1516 ONCE THE COURT OF APPEALS RULES ON THE RECONSIDERATION, IT WOULD BE 1517 TIME FOR COALITION, ASSUMING THE COURT OF APPEALS DID NOT TAKE THE CASE FOR 1518 CONSIDERATION, IT WOULD BE FOR THE OHIO COURT.

1519 THAT IS OUT THERE IN TERMS OF CONTESTING THE DECISION RENDERED.

1520 AS YOU RECALL, JUDGE TYAK, SAT ON THAT.

1521 HE'LL AT THE TIME HAVE RETIRED.

1522 AND THEREFORE, ANOTHER JUDGE WILL HAVE TO RULE ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDERATION 1523 AND HE HAD RULED IN THE CITY'S FAVORS.

1524 IT'S SORT OF UNDETERMINED HOW HIS REPLACEMENT WOULD CONSIDER THE MATTER.

1525 THAT IS MY BRIEF UPDATE.

1526 THANK YOU.

1527 >> M GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL.

1528 TOM, ONE THING I MISSED DISCUSSED TAT THE MEETING ON FRIDAY, WAS GOVERNOR'S 1529 PROPOSAL FOR INCREASE IN THE GAS TAX.

1530 IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT I'M GOING TO DISTRIBUTE SOME 1531 THIS WEEK INCLUDING ESTIMATED REVENUE POTENTIAL FOR WORTHINGTON FOR PROJECTS 1532 AND MAINTENANCE SHOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT PASS.

1533 OBVIOUSLY, THE OHIO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

1534 AND TOOK A POSITION IN FAVOR OF IT ON FRIDAY.

1535 BUT I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU THIS WEEK SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE 1536 INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

1537 >> R DOROTHY: I ATTENDED THE CEMETERY MEETING.

1538 I'M NOT SURE IF I REPORTED THIS BEFORE OR NOT, SORRY, IT'S A VERY SLOW PROCESS.

1539 THE CEMETERY HAS TIRED HARD LINE DESIGNS TO DO MASTER PLANNING FOR THE GARDENER 1540 PROPERTY ALONG WITH STEVE KOWALCZYK FROM POD DESIGN, LANDSCAPE, ARCHITECTURE.

1541 WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

1542 BUT THERE SHOULD BE PLANS WE CAN SHARE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.

1543 I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST WE'LL REALLY GO.

1544 BUT WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND THE CEMETERY PLANS.

1545 I DIDN'T ATTEND, I DID NOT ATTEND THE LAST REFUND MEETING BUT THERE ARE QUITE 1546 A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE COMING UP MARCH 5, THE ART OF JAPANESE TEMARI AT 1547 THE LIBRARY.

1548 A BOOK TALK AT THE LIBRARY.

1549 THE INDIAN BOOK INTERPRETER OF MALADIES.

1550 700 SHORT STORIES FROM INDIA.

1551 MAY 13, LATIN AMERICA.

1552 BY DR. JAMES FRANKLIN.

1553 IN THE FALL SOMETIMES POST CARDS FROM INDONESIA, TALK WITH DAVID MOLD.

1554 AND PROGRAMMING FOR THE AUGUST WIND PICNIC AND OTHER STUFF.

1555 BUT WIFA IS MOVING FORWARD.

1556 THE CEMETERY IS MOVING FORWARD.

1557 A LOT OF COLLABORATION WITH THE LIBRARIES AND WIFA STUFF.

1558 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. MEYERS.

1559 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE 1560 APPROPRIATE TIME OR WE NEED TO ADD IT ONTO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE PROBABLY NEXT 1561 WEEK.

1562 AS YOU ALL KNOW, ARBMPC IS DISCUSSING THEIR THIRD PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE 1563 STAFFORD PROJECT.

1564 IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE MAY NOT BE THE VOTES ON COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE PUD

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1565 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES THE LAST I HEARD.

1566 AS THE LIAISON TO THAT BOARD I NEED TO KNOW IF THIS PROJECT IS DEAD IN THE 1567 WATER.

1568 I NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT BACK BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING A GREAT DEAL 1569 OF FUNDS.

1570 I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEM.

1571 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE THE NEXT ARB MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT 1572 THURSDAY.

1573 SO IT WOULD BE AFTER THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING.

1574 YOU COULD DO IT OFFLINE WITH ME IF YOU LIKE.

1575 I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, THERE IS ONE PAGE OF ORDINANCE WHICH GOVERNS ARB 1576 AND I WANT TO SAY 140 PAGES OF GUIDELINES.

1577

1578 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: 1579 TEM S MYERS: I MAY HAVE TO ASK -- 1580 COMMUNICATE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING -- 1581 SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF PUD OR NOT.

1582 SOME IDEA --

1583 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THIS, I HOPE, THAT'S WHY I SERVE ON 1584 THIS BOARD, NOT JUST TO COMMUNICATE WHY THEY ARE DOING BUT COMMUNICATE FROM 1585 YOU WHAT THEY SHOULD BY DOING.

1586 I WOULD APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.

1587 >> D FOUST: TO CLARIFY, MR. MEYERS, WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT A PUD AT ALL AT 1588 SOME POINT OR DO WE SUPPORT A PUD BASED ON SOME NEAR APPROXIMATION OF THE PROJECT 1589 THAT'S BEEN SHOWN SO FAR? 1590 I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

1591 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: YOU ARE RIGHT.

1592 IT IS, I DON'T KNOW.

1593 I HAVE HEARD BOTH.

1594 AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO COME TO COUNCIL.

1595 IT'S A LONG WAY FROM BEING FINALIZED AT THE BOARD AND IT WOULD CHANGE.

1596 THEY ALWAYS DO.

1597 BUT IF THERE IS -- WHAT I REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS IF THERE IS NO WAY THAT THERE 1598 IS GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROJECT OR ON THAT PROPERTY BY NATIONAL CHURCH 1599 RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF WHAT FORM IT TAKES, THAT I HAVE TO KNOW RIGHT AWAY.

1600 WE NEED TO LET NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENTS TO WITHDRAW, YOU ARE NOT 1601 GETTING YOUR PUD THROUGH.

1602 IF THERE IS A WAY THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, WAYS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT 1603 NAVIGATED, I CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE BOARD.

1604 THE BOARD IS AN INDEPENDENT BOARD AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO WITH IT WHAT THEY WANT 1605 AND ULTIMATELY UP TO YOU IF YOU APPROVE WHAT THE BOARD RECOMMENDS OR NOT.

1606 BUT THAT IS KIND OF MY ROLE AS YOUR LIAISON WITH THAT BOARD.

1607 IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT WILL HELP THE PROCESS, I'M WILLING TO TAKE THAT 1608 BACK.

1609 IF YOU THINK THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN HELP THE PROCESS, I WILL TAKE THAT 1610 BACK ALSO.

1611 >> D FOUST: THE DIALOGUE I HAVE HEARD SEEMS TO REVOLVE AROUND HEIGHT AND MASS AND 1612 FIT WITH THE BUILDINGS SURROUNDING AND SUCH.

1613 MY SENSE IS THAT THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT CONCERN ABOUT THE PROJECT AS 1614 PRESENTED AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TWEAKS.

1615 BUT THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S THE SENTIMENT I'M PICKING UP IN GENERAL.

1616 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

1617 OKAY? 1618 TO ME THAT INVOLVES A PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR SEVERAL 1619 YEARS.

1620 I HAVE BEEN OF THE OPINION WE NEED TO LET THE BOARD GO ITS COURSE AND SEE WHAT THEY 1621 BRING TO US AND APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.

1622 I DON'T WANT TO MICROMANAGE WHAT OUR BOARDS DO.

1623 BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO STRING ALONG AN APPLICANT IF ULTIMATELY, IT'S NOT GOING

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1624 TO PREVAIL.

1625 WE OWE IT TO OUR APPLICANTS THAT WE GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT -- 1626 AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN MAYBE AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT 1627 DISCUSSION AS TO GUIDELINES AND WHAT THEY MEAN.

1628 BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEIGHT OF THIS BUILDING, THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE 1629 OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THERE IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST, IS A TWO AND A HALF 1630 STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS, TO THE EAST, THERE ARE TWO THAT ARE TWO-AND-A-HALF 1631 STORIES.

1632 IT IS CONSISTENT.

1633 AND IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IT CALLS FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE TWO-AND-A-HALF-STORIES 1634 TALL BECAUSE THAT IS THE STANDARD MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN WORTHINGTON.

1635 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE JOHNSON HOUSE OR TOWNSHIP, THOSE TEND TO BE 1636 TWO-AND-A-HALF-STORY BUILDINGS.

1637 THAT'S THE WAY THE GUIDELINES ARE WRITTEN.

1638 IF IT DOESN'T WORK ON THIS PROPERTY, HOW DO WE INTERPRET THAT? 1639 WHERE DO WE GO WITH THAT? 1640 WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? 1641 THAT IS THE DISCUSSION I'M TALKING ABOUT.

1642 >> D FOUST: I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IT OUT.

1643 BUT I THINK THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, LET'S SAY TWO-STORY 1644 HOUSE WITH CONVENTIONAL EIGHT-FOOT SEALINGS AND RAFTERS IN BETWEEN.

1645 VERSUS NINE FOOT CEILINGS AND TWO AND A HALF OR THREE FOOT TO ALLOW FOR HVAC AND 1646 MECHANICAL.

1647 THERE IS TWO STORIES AND THEN THERE IS TWO STORIES.

1648 THE TWO-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING IS MORE OF THE FORMER CONFIGURATION, NOT 1649 THE LATTER.

1650 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE 1651 SOMETHING TO BE ADDED.

1652 ANY COMMENTS WE HAVE, FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM DURING THE WEEK.

1653 I THINK, MR. GREESON, LET'S ADD IT TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, PLEASE.

1654 >> M GREESON: YES, MA'AM.

1655 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: 1656 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MEYERS?

1657 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: COME TO ARB.

1658 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MEYERS?

1659 >> PRO TEM S MYERS: I SAID MY PIECE.

1660 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. SMITH.

1661 >> D SMITH: KEITH FROM THE SOCIETY, SUBMITTED ABOUT THE ORANGE JOHNSON BICENTENNIAL.

1662 IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW THAT AND WE'LL BRING THAT UP IN THE NEXT UP COUPLE OF 1663 MEETINGS.

1664 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.

1665 MR. FOUST.

1666 >> D FOUST: NOTHING MORE.

1667 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: MR. ROBINSON.

1668 >> D ROBINSON: I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING TO LAST WEEK ARB MEETING TO HEAR THE 1669 TESTIMONY ABOUT STAFFORD.

1670 HOWEVER, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA RELATED TO THE SHARON MEMORIAL HALL.

1671 THE NET WAS 4-3.

1672 I WAS A BIT CHAGRINED ABOUT.

1673 I CONCLUDED I WANT TODAY FILE AN APPEAL.

1674 PROBABLY PENDING A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER MEYERS.

1675 IF I DO SO IT WILL HAVE TO BE BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

1676 IT MIGHT FIT IN WITH THE CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK, ARB, THE BASIS OF THEIR DECISIONS 1677 AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH COUNCIL.

1678 THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT.

1679 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: WHAT WAS THE DECISION MADE?

1680 >> D ROBINSON: WHETHER TO APPROVE A RETROACTIVE REQUEST TO INSTALL GLASS 1681 BLOCK WINDOWS IN THE MEMORIAL HALL.

1682 THE MEMBERS VOTED TO APPROVE THE GLASS BLOCK.

1683 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.

1684 DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

1685 THE MEETINGS HAVE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS SET UP HENCE FORWARD THE NEXT COUPLE OF 1686 WEEKS.

1687 I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PERTINENT FOR ME TO ADD.

1688 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO BE BROUGHT FOR COUNCIL? 1689 MOVE TO ADJOURN.

1690 MOVED BY MS. DOROTHY.

1691 >> SECOND.

1692 >> PRESIDENT B MICHAEL: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

1693 WE'RE ADJOURNED. 1694 02:04:17,750 AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING.



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