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[4.A.I. Architectural Review Board Appeal - 885 Evening Street Executive Summary: City Council will discuss whether to hear the Appeal of the Architectural Review Board's approval of a modular classroom unit at 885 Evening Street.]

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BE SCHEDULED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD'S APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. TYPICALLY, WHEN MR. LINDSEY GET HERE HE'LL ADVISE, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE WHERE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE TESTIMONY FROM ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON IT.

WE OFTEN ADVISE APPEALS SUCH AS THIS SHOULD BE A REVIEW OF THE RECORD AND THE DETERMINATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND THEN A DECISION BY THIS BOARD ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE A FULL PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PARTIES WOULD STATE THEIR CASE. THERE IS NOT A LOT OF SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS. OR THE SPECIFIC STANDARD THAT SHOULD BE APPLIED FOR WHEN WE SHOULD GRANT AN APPEAL AND SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING OR NOT.

OUR SUGGESTION THAT YOU RECEIVE SOME BRIEF INFORMATION FROM STAFF ABOUT THE ARB'S DECISION, WHAT THEY DECIDED.

AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION BASED ON THE RECORD BEFORE YOU WHETHER OR NOT TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> YOU INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND THE MEETING MINUTES OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY WITH ARB, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> M. GREESON: YES, I THINK ALL AVAILABLE NFORMATION IS IN THE PACKET. AND THERE IS A MOTION IN THE MEMORANDUM WRITTEN BY MR. BROWN THAT YOU COULD USE.

IN CASES LIKE THIS, MOTIONS ARE WRITTEN IN THE POSITIVE.

AND SO YOU WOULD MOVE TO -- >> LOST TRACK OF TIME.

SO YES. THE CODE DOES NOT PROVIDE A SPECIFIC STANDARD BY WHICH YOU MAKE THIS DETERMINATION, WHETHER TO HEAR APPEAL. THE NORM AS I HAVE LEARNED HAS BEEN TO AND DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN ENOUGH FOR COUNCIL TO PROBABLY DEVELOP A REGULAR SET OF PATTERNS.

BUT THE CLOSEST EQUIVALENT THAT IT SEEMS TO BE IS THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS THE COURTS USE.

YET, THE EITHER OHIO OR U.S. SUPREME COURT WHERE REVIEW IS NOT A MATTER OF RIGHT BUT ONE OF DISCRETION.

THE COURT IS LOOKING AT A RECORD, NOT TO DECIDE THE MERITS BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT IS WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION BY THE COURT.

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IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK THAT IS YOUR SORT OF BASIC STANDARD THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. BECAUSE THE ACTUAL HEARING ON THE MERITS IS WHEN TESTIMONY R EVIDENCE MIGHT BE PRESENTED, IT DOESN'T SEEM WORTHY OF DUPLICATION TO PRESENT THAT BUT TO DO ORE OF A RECORD REVIEW AT THIS STAGE SIMPLY TO LOOK AT IT AND DISCUSS AMONG YOURSELVES AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU FEEL IT'S WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION AT A PUBLIC HEARING.

THTHAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATI, SUGGESTION AS TO PROCESS.

>> M. GREESON: WE WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROCESS. AND IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN, WHO WILL SUMMARIZE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD'S DECISION ON THIS MATTER.

MR. BROWN. >> R. BROWN: MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS MR. GREESON MENTIONED WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET WAS THE APPEAL LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THE PORTION OF THE MEMO FOR THE MEMO ON MARCH 25, APRIL 25.

IT AND THE MEETING MINUTES OF BOTH THOSE MEETINGS AND THE APPLICATION MATERIAL AND BOTH POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS.

TO BUILD ON WHAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED AT BOTH F THOSE MEETINGS THE LACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED MODULAR.

A SIX ROOM, WITH TWO RESTROOMS, APPROXIMATELY 70 BY 98 FEET.

WHEN IT WENT BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD THE FOUR CONDITIONS, ONE THEY COME BACK IN FOUR YEARS WITH A GAME PLAN OF DO YOU NEED ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.

IS THIS FOR FOUR YEARS AND HAVE THAT OPEN DIALOGUE.

INSTEAD OF A OPEN APPROVAL OF TIME.

THE OTHER CONDITION WAS WE SHOWED THE BOARD THREE OPTIONS FOR HOW THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK. A LOT OF IT RELATED TO THE TRIM, THE DOORS AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON THE SIDES OF THE UNIT.

THE THIRD THING WAS TO THE HUMIDISTAT CONTROL AND THE SCREEN WALL AROUND THE ATTACHED A.C. UNITS.

IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE NOISE, TO ADD BAFFLES.

AND THE FINAL CONDITION THEY PLACED ON THE APPROVAL, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR TWO WEEKS, MAINLY MS. BITAR WITH CITY STAFF, THE ARBORIST AND THE SCHOOLS, HAS BEEN A FINAL LANDSCAPING PLAN COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED AND MODIFIED VERSUS WHAT THE BOARD SAW.

WITH THOSE FOUR CONDITIONS, THE BOARD DID APPROVAL IT AFTER A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AT BOTH MEETINGS.

A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF LIGHT READING, BUT IT FOCUSED ON NOT NECESSARILY THE LOOK BUT THERE PLACEMENT AND THE ORIENTATION OF THAT BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FOR THE RECORD, WHAT WAS THE MUNICIPAL

PLANNING COMMISSION'S VOTE? >> M. GREESON: A 6-1 VOTE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WANTED TO HAVE THAT IN THE RECORD.

>> GOOD THING TO HAVE. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THERE WAS

ONE ABSTENTION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY ERS, I CAN SEE YOU ARE AN THE ARB, DO YOU WANT TO SAY

SOMETHING? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: TALKING ABOUT APPEAL STANDARDS WAY TOO OFTEN LATELY.

YOU HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE. I'LL TALK GENERALLY FIRST.

AS MR. LINDSEY SAID, THERE ARE NO STANDARDS IN THE APPEAL STATUTE AS TO HOW WE SHOULD DETERMINE WHETHER WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE APPEAL OR NOT. AND THIS IS NOT A DECISION ON THE MERITS. WHETHER WE THINK IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG BUT SHOULD WE ACCEPT THE APPEAL AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT OURSELVES. AND I LOOK AT THIS THE WAY COURTS OF DISCRETIONARY DISTRICT, THEY ARE NOT COURTS OF ERROR OR FIX MISTAKES. THE STANDARD FOR OHIO SUPREME COURT IS THIS A MATTER OF GENERAL IMPORT ORA CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION. THIS IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION. SO IS THIS A MATTER OF GREAT GENERAL IMPORT? WHAT MESSAGE OR WHAT PRECEDENT DO WE WANT TO SET BY ACCEPTING THIS PARTICULAR APPEAL? I GO BACK TO OUR NTERACTION WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHAT WE ASK THEM TO O, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE APPOINTED EXPERTS AND BE GIVEN DEFERENCE. AND THAT WE SHOULD DECLINE

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APPEALS AND UNLESS WE FEEL THEY ABUSED THEIR DISCRETION WE ALLOTTED TO THEM. A LOT OF THE ISSUES IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE CAME DOWN TO THE LOCATION OF THE MODULAR UNITS.

AND THERE WAS A ISAGREEMENT BETWEEN SOME OF THE CITIZENS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I AND I THINK THAT THE BOARD LOOKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS THE EXPERTS IN EDUCATING CHILDREN AND FELT THEY SHOULD DEFER TO THE SCHOOL EXTERPIECE AS TO THE LOCATION. THAT WAS MY READ AT IT.

I ALWAYS WANT TO ASK MYSELF, IF WE BRING THIS APPEAL IN, WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH? WHAT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO FIX A MISTAKE UNLESS WE THINK IT IS O EGREGIOUS IT HAS TO BE FIXED. THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE HERE.

DO WE WANT TO SEND A ARB OR TO THE COMMUNITY? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS APPEAL? AND I THINK THAT THIS APPLICATION AND THE RANT OF THIS APPLICATION LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE DO WAS A BALANCING OF SOME COMPETING PRIORITIES. THE SCHOOL NEEDS THE MODULARS.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY QUESTION AND EVEN THE APPELLANTS DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE ACT THE SCHOOL NEEDS THEM.

I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WOULD ALLOW A MODULAR HOME TO BE LOCATED ON MORNING STREET IN WORTHINGTON.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT THE EXTENSION SEA OF HAVING TO HAVE THESE AND CAN WE MAKE THE BEST OF IT. I THINK WITH THE DISTRICT INVOLVED IT ADDS ANOTHER WRINKLE TO THIS CASE THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN A LOT OF OTHERS. I THINK BACK TO THE HARDING PROPERTY WHEN OHIO STATE BOUGHT IT AND PUT UP THE LAND STRIP LIGHTS AND SAID, WE'RE THE STATE, YOU CAN'T TELL US WHAT TO DO. THERE IS CASE LAW OUT THERE SAYING WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO IMPOSE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ON ANOTHER PUBLIC ENTITY. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT AND WE LITIGATE IT AND IT WOULD BE WHICH TWO PUBLIC GOALS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

SO AT THE END DAY WE MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF CLOUT IN WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T SEE WHAT FURTHER GOAL THIS APPEAL WOULD PRESENT AND THAT WE WOULD FACILITATE BY ACCEPTING THE APPEAL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?

MR. ROBINSON. >> D. ROBINSON: MY FLESH HOLD LEVEL IS NOT QUITE SO HIGH STRINGENT.

IF IT SEEMS REASONABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT OF THE APPEAL IS NOT ASKING BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODULELERS THEMSELVES BUT FENCING AND LANDSCAPING.

AND IT APPEARS THOSE ITEMS ARE NOT THOROUGHLY OR ADEQUATELY DISCUSSED, DECIDED AT THE ARB, MPC.

IT SEEMS LIKE IN THE APPLICATION THEY SAY THE APPLICANT, MEANING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, INDICATED THEY WERE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE REASONABLE REQUESTS. THEIR ASKING FOR A THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW TO INCLUDE THOSE TWO ITEMS WHICH WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DECISION. IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO HEAR THE APPEAL.

>> D. FOUST: A QUESTION FOR MR. LINDSEY AND THEN R. BROWN.

MR. LINDSAY, AS THESE APPEALS POP UP FROM TIME TO TIME, I ASK THE SAME QUESTION I USED TO ASK MRS. FOX.

ISN'T THAT TRUE IT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HEAR AN APPEAL?

BASED ON WHATEVER REASON. >> IT IS YOUR DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER YOU HEAR THE APPEAL AND THE CODE DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC STANDARD AS TO HOW YOU EXERCISE THAT DISCRETION.

>> D. SMITH: THANK YOU. AND MR. BROWN, I'M TRYING TO FRAME THE QUESTION. I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT I WANT TO ASK. IT'S SOMETHING TO DO THE WAY THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED, WHAT COULD THE SCHOOL BUILD IF

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ANYTHING WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION? WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION.

>> IT'S LOCATED IN THE ART DISTRICT SO IT WOULD NOT APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD. AND STATE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.

>> SECOND. OR ANY BUILDING? >> CORRECT.

>> D. SMITH: -- OR ANY BUILDING. >> CORRECT.

>> D. ROBINSON: A QUESTION FOR MR. BROWN.

WHY AS THE ISSUES OF FENCING AND LANDSCAPING NOT THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED AND INCLUDED IN THE REVIEW AND DECISION ACCORDING TO

THE NOTES, OR WERE THEY? >> I HAVE TO DISAGREE IF THAT'S HOW THEY FELT. WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND I KNOW THE PAST TWO WEEKS LINDA HAS WORKED WITH THE ARBORIST TO GET A REVISED PLAN AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD IN APRIL. I KNOW THAT AT THE APRIL MEETING FROM THE MARCH TO APRIL MEETING THERE WERE TWO LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT WERE REVISED THE BORD SAW AND PPROVED AS PART OF OF IT AND THROUGH THE CONDITION WE CAN STILL WORK AS TO GET A PLAN THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE AND NOT COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.

AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE WORKED WITH SHAWN DOTRY, THE CITY ARBORIST. ALONG EVENING STREET AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL. AS LAST FRIDAY WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DESIGN WITH THE SCHOOL, THE ARBORIST AND LYNDA. MODIFYING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

IT'S NOT DONE. LIKE I SAID, I DISAGREE THEY DIDN'T DISCUSS IT AT ALL. THE BOARD GAVE US THE PRIVY TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WORKING ON BEEFING IT UP OVER WHAT WAS EXISTING AND PROPOSED AT THE MEETING.

THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION OF THE FENCE ALONG EVENING STREET.

THERE IS AN EXISTING CHAIN-LINKED FENCE PROPOSED BY THE SCHOOLS TO BE REMOVED. AT THAT POINT IN TIME AT THE MEETING, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE LEFT UP FOR SAFETY REASONS. THEY MADE THE MOTION TO LEAVE THE FENCE UP ALONG EVENING STREET AS ADDITIONAL PROTECTION.

WE CAN HAVE THAT AMENDED. BUT THE SCREENING, THERE IS THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THE SCREENING PLAN

AMENABLE FOR WHAT ARB INTENDED. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THAT IS, THERE IS THE APPEAL AND THERE IS A LETTER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE LETTER IS SEPARATE FROM THE APPEAL AND THE TWO -- THE LETTER HAS WO ITEMS AND THE APPEAL HAS EIGHT ITEMS. AM I CORRECT? I'M ASKING THE LAW DIRECTOR.

THE APPEAL INCLUDES NINE AREAS. NOT JUST TWO.

THE SEPARATE LETTER IS NOT PART OF THE APPEAL, IT'S A LETTER SENT INTO THE CITY THAT MAYBE AUGMENTED R SUPPLEMENTED BUT NOT THE APPEAL. THE APPEAL HAS NINE ITEMS INCLUDING THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. I WOULD DEFER TO MR. BROWN IN TERMS OF THE PACKET MATERIALS PUT TOGETHER.

I BELIEVE THAT'S A SEPARATE EMAIL, SEPARATE FROM THE APPEAL

LETTER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SOME OF YOUR ARE FOCUSING ON THE LETTER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS IN AND OUT OF THE APPEAL WHAT WE'RE DECIDING ON.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE, MR. ROBINSON? IF YOU BROUGHT THE APPEAL IN, WHAT WOULD YOUR GOAL OR PURPOSE

BE? >> D. ROBINSON: HEAR THE RESIDENT'S APPEAL. YOU ARE ASKING WHAT MERIT TO THE

APPEAL, IS THAT THE QUESTION? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THERE MUST BE SOME GOAL. SOME REASON WHY YOU -- BECAUSE THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN HEARD AT TWO SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO FASHION A REMEDY, IF ALL YOU DO IS HEAR THEM AND WE VOTE IT DOWN STILL THAT SEEMS PATRONIZING.

WHAT IS IT YOU WOULD CHANGE ABOUT WHAT ARB DID?

WHAT IS THE REMEDY HERE? >> D. ROBINSON: PERHAPS INSTRUCT ARB TO REVISIT THE ISSUE AND INCLUDE LANDSCAPING AND FENCING.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THEY HAVE DONE THAT.

>> D. ROBINSON: WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE OF THE FACTS AND US ASSESS WHETHER WE THINK THAT'S A PRUDENT DECISION.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THEY ARE NINE, AS MS. MICHAELS SAID, NINE

THINGS, SIX ARE THE LOCATION. >> D. ROBINSON: WHAT IS THE APPEAL? IS IT TWO, NINE? WHAT ARE THERE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT WE'LL VOTE ON?

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THE NINE? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S THE PAGE THAT HAS NINE ITEMS THAT ARE ALL LISTED OUT.

IT WAS ON THE PAGE BEFORE THE LETTERS.

YOU ARE FOCUSING ON THE LETTER WITH THE TWO ITEMS. THE APPEAL IS NINE ITEMS. I THINK HAT MR. MEYERS' IS ASKING, OUT OF THE NINE ITEMS, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ARB MADE A

WRONG DECISION. >> D. SMITH: POINT OF INQUIRY TO MR. LINDSEY, THE APPEAL IS AN APPEAL PERIOD.

IS IT NOT? OR ARE WE BOXED IN TO SPECIFICALLY THE NINE ITEMS THAT THEY APPEALED? CAN WE AT OUR DISCRETION THERE IS SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THE

APPEAL? >> THE NORMAL PROCESS WOULD BE THAT SOMEBODY WOULD RAISE THE ASSIGNMENTS OF ERRORS OR THE THINGS THAT THEY BELIEVE ARE WRONG.

AT LEAST FROM A COURT PROCESS, BECAUSE OUR CODE DOESN'T SPELL THIS OUT, IT'S THE NORMAL COURT PROCESS WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY INDICATING HAT THOSE ERRORS WERE THAT THEY WANT.

IN THIS INSTANCE, THE NOTICE OF APPEAL DOES SET FORTH THE FACTS AS THEY STATE THEM. AND THEN THE RATIONALE FOR THE APPEAL AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE NINE POINTS THEY HAVE RA RAISED. ULTIMATELY, YOUR QUESTION OF IF ANY ONE OF THOSE YOU FOUND TO BE ERROR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND ALL NINE. IF ANY ONE OF THOSE YOU AGREED WITH, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY THEN TO DO IT.

>> SECO >> D. SMITH: TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. AND ONCE THE APPEAL IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING HEARD, COULDN'T IT BE UP TO OUR DISCRETION O HYPOTHETICALLY TELL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NO, START OVER? JUST FOR PROCESS SAKE, TO CLARIFY.

>> BECAUSE YOUR CODE DOESN'T SPECIFY A PROCESS IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL YOU, NO,ING AS TO THAT QUESTION.

IT WOULD SEEM TO BE DEVIATING FROM THE NORMAL PROCESS BUT I

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. FOU ST.

>> D. FOUST: A COUPLE F COMMENT SAID.

MR. MEYERS, I THINK YOU KNOW I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE THE GUIDANCE YOU PROVIDE ON THESE ISSUES AND, YES, WE SEEM TO HAVE MORE OF THEM THESE DAYS. I WILL TAKE EXCEPTION TO ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE THINK THE SCHOOLS ARE EXPERTS ON ESIGN, THEY ARE EXPERTS ON EDUCATION.

TO ME, THIS IS A DESIGN QUESTION.

IF ONLY BECAUSE I THINK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS LACK OF CLARITY BETWEEN COUNCIL INTENTION AND ARB AND MPC AND DISCUSS THE NEED FOR BETTER DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE TWO.

WE SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE VOTERS, IN ESSENCE.

I WOULD SUPPORT, UNLIKE MR.LIKEMR. ROBINSON, THEREZ A GD ARGUMENT FOR HEARING WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.

>> R. DOROTHY: I REVIEWED THE INFORMATION IN THE PACKET.

AND I THINK THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DIALOGUE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME BEFORE ARB AND GIVE THEIR INPUT. I THINK THAT THIS APPEAL IS IN THE MINORITY. I SEE THE PACKET PAGE NUMBER 33 AND 35 WITH RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE MODULAR CLASSROOMS WILL BE WITH 100-FOOT SET BACK OFF OF EVENING STREET WITH QUITE A BIT OF SCREEN WIDTH. QUITE A FEW NEW TREES AND HEDGES. ALL NEW AIR CONDITIONERS ARE WAY QUIETER THAN OLD ONES THEY HAVE TO BE.

IT IS ALSO TEMPORARY. I DO LIKE THE FACT THEY GAVE A FOUR-YEAR REQUIREMENT TO HAVE IT REREVIEWED.

HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE NEEDED AFTER FOUR YEARS.

WE DO HAVE PRECEDENCE, THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION AT SAINT MICHAELS, WE ALLOWED A ONSTRUCTION TRAILER FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT IDEAL BUT SOMETHING WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH MAKING SURE WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE, TEACH OUR KIDS.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE

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SPACE FOR OUR KIDS. I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT ARB/MPC, WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN TO MOVE

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY ERS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I STILL GET BACK TO REMEDY.

WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN APPEAL, NINE THINGS FOR S TO REVIEW, SIX OF HICH ARE THE LOCATION OF THE UNITS.

THE BOARD HEARD TESTIMONY ON WHY THE BUILDINGS WERE WHERE THEY WERE NOT EXPERTS IN THE AREA, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS DESIGNEES. IN MY MIND I'M NOT THE EXPERT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO SECOND GUESS THAT DECISION. IT HAS BEEN AN APPEAL REGARDING THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE, SHOULD IT STAY OR GO? A DECISION IT WOULD BE SAFER FOR THE TO STAY. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ON THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS AND NOISE.

THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION AND A DECISION BY ARB THEY SHOULD BE SCREENED. THERE SHOULD BE BAFFLES AND THEY SHOULD BE TIMED TO KICK ON AT APPROPRIATE TIMES.

THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION ON ON THE LANDSCAPIN.

A PLAN WAS ACCEPTED AND SENT TO STAFF TO ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. OF THE NINE ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE REJECTION OF FOE BRICK.

I DON'T THINK WHAT I WOULD CHANGE WITH WHAT THE BOARD DID.

FAUX -- WHY WOULD WE BRING THIS IN? WHAT POLICY ARE WE TRYING TO ADVANCE BY BRINGING THIS IN? IT CAN'T BE ABOUT ONE SPECIFIC BUILDING.

IT HAS TO BE WHAT POLICY WE'RE BRINGING IN AND MR. SMITH, WE TELL THEM TO START ALL OVER AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE KIDS?

>> D. SMITH: I'M HAPPY TO STATE MY POSITION AND ARGUE THOSE.

BUT THAT'S AN ARGUMENT BASED ON MERIT, WHICH WOULD BELONG IN THE

APPEAL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'LL

OFFER MY OPINION SINCE I HAVEN'- >> B. KOWALCZYK: WHILE I APPRECIATE THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP BY THE APPELLANT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A STANDARD OF REVIEW TO GIVE DEFERENCE TO OUR BOARDS, TASKED WITH MAKING THESE DECISIONS OR WE WOULD BE HEARING APPEALS ALL THE TIME WITH WHATEVER DISCRETION.

WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM POWER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND TO DO IT IN A PROPER PROCESS. IT APPEARS TO ME FROM REVIEWING THE RECORD THE ISSUES WERE ADDRESSED AND DISCUSSED.

PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR CONCERNS IN TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS. THE BOARD MEMBERS EXPRESSED THEIR REASONING BEHIND HEIR DECISION.

HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, IN MY MIND, WOULD DUPLICATE WHAT THE ARB DID. IT APPEARS THE MAIN ISSUE WAS WEIGHING HE SAFETY OF SCHOOL CHILDREN AGAINST THE DESIRE FOR DESIGN REPLACEMENT. AND ARB GAVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO BOTH OF THOSE. AND DECIDED ON THE SIDE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE SAFETY OF THEIR

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.

FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I'M IN NO WAY OPPOSED TO THE MODULAR SCHOOL ROOMS. NOR DO I THINK ANYONE UP HERE WOULD COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN. AS FAR AS REMEDY, IT APPEARS THE TWO ISSUES OF GREATEST IMPORTANCE TO THE RESIDENT ARE IN FACT THE CHAIN-LINKED FENCE AND ADEQUACY OF SCREENING.

THIS IS THEIR HOME. SOMETHING THEY LOOK AT EVERY DAY. I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY IT.

SEEMS THE ASK IS SMALL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WIDE PROBABLY BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO MUTUAL SATISFACTION.

I THINK TO NOT HEAR IT IS OT SERVING OUR RESIDENTS ADEQUATELY. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T WORK TO A SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION.

>> WE ONLY HAD ONE RENDITION WITH THE CITY ARBERATE AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. I THINK WE CAN GET THAT TO A STATE THAT BOTH PARTIES CAN AGREE TO.

I THINK THE ENCE PORTION ASK THEM TO RECONSIDER AND HAVE THE

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EXISTING FENCE ALONG EVENING STREET REMOVED AS AN ADDITIONAL ITEM. WITH THE LANDSCAPING PORTION I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.

AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS. LYNDA WORKED WITH SEAN BEFORE SHE WAS OUT TO TRY TO GET A REVISED PLAN.

BUT I THINK WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO GET IT TO WHERE IT CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY THE STAFF THAT WOULD MEET THE INTENT WITH WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD SAW LAST WEEK. IN A BEEFED UP VERSION WITH THE STREET TREES AND ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG THE UNION STREET

FRONTAGE. >> D. ROBINSON: MR. BROWN, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO FURTHER THAT EFFORT? WOULD THE APPEAL SERVE THAT PURPOSE OR NOT?

>> MR. BROWN:

>> MR. BROWN: KNOW. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CODE WHICH TELLS US. I'M TELLING YOU IN A TYPICAL APPEAL THAT, WE'VE NOW PUT THAT AT ISSUE BECAUSE WE'VE ACCEPTED THE APPEAL. WE WOULD THEN STRIKE -- I MEAN, WE'RE THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. THIS IS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE. WE WOULDN'T DENY THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL IN WHAT THEY DID. THIS ISN'T, THERE IS A -- WE CAN LET GO AND IT'S GOING TO ACHIEVE A PRETTY GOOD RESULT ON THE LANDSCAPE. OUR DECISION ISN'T -- WE'RE NOT MEDIATORS HERE. WE'RE COURT.

WE'RE JUDGE. WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YES YOU GET IT R YOU DON'T. IF IT DOESN'T, IT GOES BACK TO

ARB. >> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD SAY THINK CONVERSATIONS WOULD CONTINUE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MR. LINDSEY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF WE ACCEPT THE APPEAL WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED WAS THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATELY GRANTED.

IF WE SAY NO, THERE IS NO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

IT'S GONE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M WONDERING IF E -- I HATE TO USE THE WORD PUNT.

IF IT CONTINUES AND THE PARTIES WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUED CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, AND THE HOPE THEY COME TO A MORE SATISFACTORY RESOLUTION THAT MEETS THE NEIGHBORS' EXPECTATIONS MORE EFFECTIVELY, I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD OUTCOME.

IF IT DOESN'T, OR AT LEAST WITH TREES AND FENCE OR WHATEVER ELSE, DOES THAT DENY THE APPLICANTS FROM COMING BACK AGAIN? IF WE DECLINE NOW AND ASK FOR THAT PROCESS TO CONTINUE AND HOPE FOR A BETTER OUTCOME, ARE THEY THEN LEFT WITHOUT ANY FURTHER REMEDY?

>> I THINK THAT PART, I WOULD HAVE TO --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. LIE QUESTION.

>> SORRY. WOULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION?

>> I LIKE WHERE. >> D. FOUST: I LIKE TO THINK REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN COME TO SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO PARTIES. WHAT I'M LIKE MR. ROBINSON, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ABOUT THE CHAIN-LINKED FENCE AND TREES.

AND IF -- I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND ARB/MPC ENDED. IF YOU ARE TELLING ME THERE IS AN ONGOING DIALOGUE, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY AND LET THAT CONTINUE. BUT IF WE DO, THAT LEAVES --

WITH NO FURTHER REMEDY. >> I THINK THAT'S WHY ALSO TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR RIGHTS OF WHAT IFS, AND AS OF FRIDAY, THE LAST CONVERSATION LYNDA HAD WITH THE SCHOOLS, IT WAS A REVISED PLAN. LYNDA IS OUT FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS BUT I CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, REVISE LANDSCAPING PLANS IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ARBORIST AND NEIGHBORS TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO AT THEIR MEETINGS TO WHAT WE HAVE TO TODAY. I THINK MR. LINDSAY WILL HAVE TO, IF THIS IS PUNTED, HOW DO THEY STILL HAVE THEIR RIGHTS IF THEY DON'T ULTIMATELY AGREE WITH THAT?

>> LOOKING AT BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED, SIMPLY STATES ONCE

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YOU DECIDE TO HEAR AN APPEAL THAT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN 60 DAYS

FROM YOUR DECISION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THOUGHT THE APPEAL HAS TO BE WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE MPC

DECISION. >> IT IS 60 DAYS AFTER THE FINAL. I MISSPOKE TO SAY IT WAS FROM YOUR DECISION. IT'S 60 DAYS WHEN YOU HEAR IT ON THE MERITS, THAT'S THE 60 DAYS. YOUR DETERMINATION TONIGHT COULD BE DELAYED FOR A PERIOD, OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN 60 DAYS FROM THE BOARD DECISION IF THE DATE YOU DECIDED YOU WERE GOING TO HEARING. THAT'S ONE WAY YOU COULD ALLOW THE PROCESS TO PLAY OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I WOULD SAY, ONCE AGAIN, THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE OUTCOME? THE SCHOOLS BY THE DETERMINATION OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES HAVE THE ABILITY -- THE REQUIREMENT IS -- BECOMES A WEIGHING AND BALANCE FOR THE PROVISIONS AND THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE. THE 10TH DISTRICT CO COURT OF APPEALS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR PROCESS.

THEY HAVE TO INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THEIR PUBLIC PURPOSE. WHETHER -- HOW THAT EXACTLY FITS WITH THE FENCE OR LANDSCAPING, MY UNDERSTANDING AND MR. BROWN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THE FENCE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY THE SCHOOL WAS TO BE REMOVED TO PUT THE FENCE BACK BECAUSE OF A SAFETY CONCERN. JUST READING THE RECORD, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND OBVIOUSLY, ON THE

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. GRE ESON.

>> M. GREESON: MR. LINDSAY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS. AN APPROACH WOULD BE TO ALLOW OR DIRECT THE STAFF TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORS ON THE LANDSCAPING WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT IT'S BEEFED UP FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL OR REALIGNED TO HELP MITIGATE VISUAL IMPACT OF THE MODULAR UNITS.

BECAUSE THE ARB ASKED SPECIFICALLY THAT THE FENCE B BE LEFT, IT PROBABLY REQUIRES REAPPLICATION TO HAVE IT REMOVED. HOWEVER, I THINK THE COUNCIL COULD SAY -- TO REMOVE THE FENCE AND THE COUNCIL INDICATES ITS STRONG DESIRE FOR IT TO BE REMOVED, TO THE ARB.

ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE DIRECTING THEM THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.

A NECESSITY FOR A HEARING AND DELAY, INTENTION, WE COULD MEDIATE THE LANDSCAPING AND I PRESUME NOBODY WANT THE FENCE AMONGST THE PARTIES. THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT I THINK -- MR. LINDSAY MAY SAY THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PLACE TO DISCUSS THIS.

BUT IT SEEMS BIZARRE THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTED THE FENCE REMOVED AND THE BOARDS WANTED IT RETAINED.

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WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT?

>> A COMMONSENSE, RATIONAL APPROACH TO GET TO A RESULT.

THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE SERIOUS THOUGHT.

BUT NOW, THE WAY A LAWYER WOULD LOOK AT THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT IT.

AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT IS OUR JOB BECAUSE A CITIZEN HAS EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR US TO HEAR, THAT'S A WHOLE IFFERENT STANDARD THAN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER AN APPEAL.

WE NEED TO DO THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE THINK OUR ROLE IS HERE.

I THINK AN APPEAL IS WE ARE THERE TO SEE WHAT POLICY WERE NOT FOLLOWED OR WHAT POLICY SHOULD BE.

THAT'S THE WAY AN APPEAL TYPICALLY -- AND I WILL BE HONEST. APPELLANTS LOSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF APPEALS. BECAUSE USUALLY, THERE OTHER WAS AN ERROR AT THE LOWER LEVEL OR NO GREATER POLICY TO ADVANCE.

THAT IS THE RELATES OF APPELLATE PRACTICE.

>> LET'S SEE IF WE CAN WORK TOWARD A RESOLUTION.

THERE ARE THREE ATTORNEYS OUT OF THE SEVEN HERE.

HOPEFULLY WE'RE THINKING HALF WAY LIKE AN ATTORNEY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PART OF MY CONCERN IS THE NEED FOR THE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH PLANNING FOR THESE UNITS.

BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE THE SUMMARY THINGS TO GET THIS READY FOR THE STUDENTS COMING IN THE FALL.

I SEE THERE BEING AN EXTENSIVE DELAY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SCHOOLS TO HAVE THINGS READY FOR THE STUDENTS, AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A WONDERFUL CITY/SCHOOL RELATIONSHIP AND I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT. IF THERE IS A WAY TO WORK TOWARDS A RESOLUTION, I WOULD PREFER GETTING INFORMATION TOGETHER AND I'M THINKING O MANY PARTS OF THE APPEAL, NOT MANY OF YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH APPEALS.

IT GOES THROUGH A LOT. AND -- YEAH, AND GO THROUGH IT ALL. IT'S QUITE A BIT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. LANDSCAPINGAND WORKING WITH THE

FORENSIC. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT'S AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGMENT BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE.

I BELIEVE THIS ACCOMPLISHING ALL OF THE TIME GOALS.

THAT THIS MATTER BE TABLED OPT A DATE CERTAIN OF JUNE 3, 2019.

AT WHICH TIME WE'LL TAKE A FINAL VOTE WITH NO FURTHER TABLES ON WHETHER TO ACCEPT. DURING THAT TIME INSTRUCT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND COMPROMISE

ON WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HAVE

A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, S IGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED? I THINK WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS DECISION.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

FINANCIAL REPORT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MR. GREESON

[Additional Item 1]

, MR. LINDSEY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM TO NEXT YEAR'S COUNCIL ETREAT. THAT WE REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE.

WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE AND FINALLALITY TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO APPEALS IF THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

IF WE HAVE A WORK SESSION LATER THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAVE ALLOTTED TIME, PERHAPS WE'LL HAVE A PRELIMINARY OVERVIEW SO THAT AS YOU GET TO THE RETREAT YOU HAVE A BASIS BEHIND IT.

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>> D. FOUST: BECAUSE YOU ARE THE GO-BETWEEN HERE.

I'M CONCERNED WHETHER WE HAD PROVIDED SUFFICIENT DIRECTION TO ARB/MPC OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

DO YOU THINK THAT STILL EXISTS? DO YOU THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER? WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT?

>> BETTER? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: BUT WE STILL HAVE NOT FOLLOWED UP ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ARB IN FOR A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO PRESENT WHAT THEY DO AND GIVE US OUR FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH MEM MEMBERS--

>> D. FOUST: I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE THE MEETING.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YOU CAN PROPOSE AS PEOPLE BEFORE AND

AFTER YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'VE

BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG TIME. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: BELIEVE ME, I HAVE REDOUBLED MY EFFORTS TO FUNCTION LESS AS A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD AND MORE OF A LIAISON TO THAT BOARD.

AND I HAVE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE. AND I WILL COMMUNICATE BACK TO YOU ALL. THEY ARE AS FRUSTRATED AS YOU HAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW. EVERY TIME AN APPEAL COMES UP, THEY WAIT FOR THE DECISION ON THE APPEAL.

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW AS MUCH AS I DO, HOW ARE THEY REVIEWED? WHAT IS THE STANDARD? WHAT IS BEING APPLIED? I CAN TELL YOU, THEY --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FOR A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING AND LET'S GET THIS OFF THE BACK BURNER.

>> OKAY. >> D. FOUST: I WOULD OFFER -- DO THEY WANT TO TAKE AN EVENING IN AUGUST? SINCE WE HAVE THAT MONTH OFF? IS THERE AN EARLY OR BEGINNING OR END OF AUGUST DATE WHEN MAYBE ALL OF US CAN GET IN A ROOM? I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE. MAYBE STAFF CAN LOOK FOR A DATE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I DON'T SEE ANY HEADS SHAKING, NO, I

THINK EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT. >> R. DOROTHY: I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE IT, THAT WAS ONE OF REASONS WE'RE HAVING THE VISIONING. I MEAN -- THAT WAS MY

UNDERSTANDING. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MAYBE BEFORE WE INVITE ARB/MPC WE HAVE OUR OWN DISCUSSION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

WE'LL KEEP WORK FORWARD AND STAFF COORDINATE US AND HAVE US TALKING OURSELVES AND MOVING ONTO THE OTHER.

END UP DOING SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE ASKED QUESTIONS WE RESPOND BACK AND STAFF CAN COMPILE TO GET US ONLINE TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE TO GET US ANSWERING QUESTIONS TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND THAT WAY WE HAVE OUR THOUGHTS CROSSED WITH EACH OTHER TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION FIRST.

>> M. GREESON: I THINK THAT IS THE TYPE OF OF WORK IN PREPARATION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ISSUES RELATED TO THE, IS IT

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ARB/MPC >> M. GREESON: TRY TO BRING CLARITY TO HAT. AND SEE IF WE CAN START

[4.A.II. Financial Report - April 2019 Executive Summary: The Financial Report for the month of April is attached. Recommendation: Motion to Accept as Presented]

SOMETHING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

NOW, WE'RE MOVING ON. >> M. GREESON: I'M GOING TO TURN

IT OVER TO MR. BARTTER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE 2019 FINANCIAL REPORT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE NON, IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AS PRESENTED, PLEASE.

>> SO MOVED. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MOVED BY MR. MEYERS. SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY . ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

[4.B.I. Discussion and Update on City Council Priority - Wilson Bridge Road Corridor]

OKAY. OKAY, MR. GREESON, WE'RE OVING ONTO DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON THE CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY ON THE

WILSON BRIDGE ROAD CORRIDOR. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEI THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE PROMISED AS PART OF A RETREAT GOAL WAS TO SPEND TIME AT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT AREAS OF PRIORITY AND SO WILSON BRIDGE ROAD WAS A SIGNIFICANT AREA OF PRIORITY YOU DESIGNATED.

AND SO WE WANT TO USE THIS TIME TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, KIND OF RELATED TO WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AS WELL AS YOUR FEEDBACK ON POLICY AREAS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT AS A STAFF.

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IT'S INTERESTING, WE LOOKED BACK MAY OF LAST YEAR, WHERE WE GAVE OUR LAST SIMILAR PRESENTATION LIKE THIS.

THIS IS BECOMING AN ANNUAL WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AFFAIR.

AND WE'RE PLEASED TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCCORKLE WHO IS GOING TO LEAD THE CONVERSATION AND ENGAGE A FEW OTHER STAFF IN

PREVENTING IT. >> MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS MR. GREESON SHARED THIS WAS THE TOP PRIORITY OF COUNCIL AT OUR RETREAT. I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU SOME THINGS WE'RE PLANNING IN THE FUTURE.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY AN INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION AT THE END ABOUT UPCOMING ITEMS THAT WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON.

DIRECTOR WHITED, BROWN AND HURLLY WILL BE JOINING ME IN THE PRESENTATION. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CORRIDOR, OVER 50% OF OUR INCOME TAX REVENUE ACTUALLY COMES FROM WILSON BRIDGE. YOU CAN SEE THE SPLIT BETWEEN WEST WILSON BRIDGE AND EAST WILSON BRIDGE.

TO EMPHASIS, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DRIVER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR OFFICE BUILDING IS 40 YEARS OLD. MOSTLY B ND C CLASS.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CLASS OFF OFFICE SPACE BUT MOSTLY B AND C. 8-10% VACANCIES.

ASKING RATE FOR RENT IS OVER $18.

THE CORRIDOR HAS MANY AMENITIES THAT ARE CENTRAL TO THE QUALITIES OF LIFE. SOON IT WILL BE THE HOLIDAY INN, AND THE SHOPS AT WORTHINGTON APPLICATION.

THE PARK AND OLENTANGY PARK. WE LOOKED AT THIS FROM A PROJECT SCOPE. WE WANTED TO CAPTURE THIS AS A PROJECT. WE WANTED DELIVERABLES AND OBJECTIVES. TO IMPROVE THE VIBRANCY AND VITALITY FROM THE ORD FROM OLENTANGY TO THE WEST AND NORTHEAST GATEWAY AT THE EAST. HERE'S THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US.

IT IS THE ECONOMIC HEALTH AND STABILITY.

THERE ARE MAJOR PARK ASSETS, RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIPLE GATEWAYS TO WORTHINGTON FROM THE NORTH, EAST, AND WEST.

LOGISTICS IN TRAVEL FLOW, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE OFFICE QUALITY AND COMPETITIVEINOUS, FEEDING INTO THE ECONOMIC HEALTH.

AND GENERALLY STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

HERE ARE THE OBJECTIVES. I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR. WE WANT TO SURVEY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT IS DRIVING OUR BUSINESSES. WHAT IT IS E'RE MISSING.

HOW CAN WE PROVIDE A CUSTOMIZED APPROACH TO MAKE SURE THEIR NEEDS ARE BEING MET. MANY OF THESE YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE AND WE'LL TOUCH ON OVER THIS PRESENTATION.

HERE ARE SOME PLANS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED.

THE WILSON BRIDGE CORRIDOR PL PLANS, THE ENHANCEMENT PLAN, WAY FINDING AND ZONING GUIDELINES. WE HAVE A PARKS MASTER PLAN, A BIKE AND PED, AND NORTHEAST GATEWAY.

THIS SHOWS HOW THOSE OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT.

THESE ARE THE TOOLS THAT EXIST IN OUR TOOL BOX TODAY.

WE HAVE OUR VENTURE GRANT PROGRAM, N INCOME-BASED GRANT PROGRAM. NEWLY APPROVED PACE AND FACE PROGRAMS. THE PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY. AS WELL AS OUR FACADE PROGRAM, WHICH RECENTLY HAS BEEN EXPANDED FROM THE INDUSTRIAL ORRIDOR TO ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDINGS IN WORTHINGTON.

OTHER TOOLS WE HAVE AVAILABLE ARE COMMUNITY EINVESTMENT AREAS AS WELL AS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

YOU SAW A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING FOR THE FORMER HOLIDAY INN. ONE OF OUR MORE FLEXIBLE PROGRAMS IS CORPORATE COMMUNITY CENTER MEMBERSHIPS.

THERE ARE LARGER CORPORATIONS ALONG WILSON BRIDGE THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT HIS PROGRAM AND SEE A NEED FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THIS WILL BE REEVALUATED.

WE HAVE THE EXISTING TOOL BOX. BUT THROUGH THE SURVEYING OF BUSINESSES WE HOPE TO IDENTIFY GAPS THAT EXIST AND MAYBE PROVIDE CUSTOMIZED PROGRAMMING I BRING BACK.

YOU WON'T SEE ASKS TODAY FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAMMING BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE PLAN TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

SOME OF OUR RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL. BUT A LOT OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

OVER $50 MILLION IN THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS, WITH AN

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ADDITIONAL 2.1 IN PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

350 WEST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD IS NOW FULL.

WE WELCOMED ORTHO FOOT AND ANKLE, OVER 170 EMPLOYEES.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLICATE ON WILSON BRIDGE. WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES INVESTED OVER $10 MILLION IN THEIR EXISTING BUILDING.

WE'LL OUCH ON IT A LITTLE BIT. BUT WE HOPE THAT WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES WILL PLAN FUTURE INVESTMENT AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW. THE HEIGHTS, OVER $16 MILLION OF INVESTMENT. THE OCCUPANCY IS 90%.

THE OFFICE OCCUPANCY, ABOUT 23,000 SQUARE FEET OF CLASS A OFFICE SPACE. OHIO STATE OCCUPIES BOTH FLOORS.

THAT IS FULL. THAT WAS OUR CLASS A OFFICE SPACE. OVER $3 MILLION IN ANNUAL PAYROLL. THE SHOPS AT WORTHINGTON PLACE, $15 MILLION IN INVESTMENT. THIS OBVIOUSLY A CENTRAL AREA FOR SOME OF THE MUCH-NEEDED QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL NOTE THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE PROBABLY SEEING ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT COMING IN THE NEAR TERM. SO STAY TUNED ON THAT.

FIRST FINANCIAL BANK. OVER 1.7 MILLION IN INVESTMENT AND OVER 100 JOBS. MEDVET HAS EXPANDED OUT OF THEIO BUILDINGS. SO 3350 EAST WILSON BRIDGE.

THEY PURCHASED THE BUILDING BEHIND THEM, RENOVATED OVER $1.7 MILLION IN RENOVATIONESS AND THE TOTAL HEAD COUNT IS OVER 400 EMPLOYEES. A COUPLE OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE SEEN, THE NORTH SIDE MEGA FIX COMPLETED IN 2017. AND THEN THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY, WHICH DIRECTOR WHITED WILL TOUCH ON, THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED TO BE IN 2020. EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD WATERLINE IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN ON EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD RECENTLY THAT IS IN PROCESS. MR. WHITED CAN TOUCH ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED SOON.

BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE COMPLETION SOON.

UNDER JUST A MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT.

EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD PROPERTY ACQUISITION.

OUR COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION HAS PURCHASED TWO PROPERTIES THAT THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED AS OPPORTUNITIES TO TURN RESIDENTIAL INTO COMMERCIAL.

THAT IS -- WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE EAST SIDE OF WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, THIS IS THE SOUTH SIDE, 127 EAST WILSON BRIDGE, AND 145 EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. WE HAVE A DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES. DIRECTOR BROWN WILL TOUCH ON THIS IS. THESE ARE CURRENTLY ZONINGED R10. SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING ABOUT LEAVING THOSE ZONED AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY OR WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO REZONE THOSE PROPERTIES.

LOOKING AHEAD. HERE'S PLAN FUTURE INVESTMENT.

A LOT OF TO-BE DETERMINED. THE WORTHINGTON GATEWAY PROJECT, IT'S OVER $37 MILLION PROJECT. THIS IS THE FORMER HOL HOLIDAY .

WHICH WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION STARTING HOPEFULLY PRETTY SOON.

WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES IS A TO-BE DETERMINED.

THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY ARE GROWING.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN WORTHINGTON.

THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO HAPPENINGS AROUND WORTHINGTON.

AND THEY HAVE SHARED WITH STAFF THAT THEY WANT WORTHINGTON TO CONTINUE TO BE A PLACE THAT IS EASY TO ATTRACT TALENT.

SO THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES YOU WOULD EXPECT A FORTUNATE 1,0001,000 CORPORATION TO PAY ATTENTION TO. ISCAN, WE'RE ACTIVELY TARGETING THEM FOR BOTH OUR PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY, TO GET THEM TO INVEST IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE BUILDINGS MORE COMPETITIVE AS WELL AS OUR NEWLY BRANDED

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FACADE PROGRAM. HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THEM TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. HAVING AN ENTITY OWN THAT MUCH REAL ESTATE ENWORTHINGTON IT'S IMPORTANT TO TARGET THEM AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THEM TO INVEST SOME OF THEIR DOLLARS BACK INTO THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE THEM MORE COMPETITIVE.

SOME OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS YOU SEE, MCCORD PARK, EAST WILSON BRIDGE, MULTIUSE PATH, NORTHEAST GATEWAY, WILSON BRIDGE RESURFACING PROJECT, A DECK REPLACEMENT ON OLENTANGY ROAD AND WEST WILSON BRIDGE, MULTIPLE PROJECT INSPECTIONS, IC ACQUISITIONS. AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THOSE AGAIN, SHORTLY. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HURLEY TO TOUCH ON OUR PARKS AND RECREATION INITIATIVES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD TRAIL HAS BEEN ON OUR DOCKET FOR A WHILE.

IT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD PLANS AS WELL AS HAS BEEN ON THE FOR FRONT OF THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AND WILL APPEAR PROMINENTLY IN A WEEK.

AT ONE POINT WE HAD FUNDING FOR DESIGN.

THAT HAD BEEN PUT ON HOLD AS THE REDEVELOPMENT IS PROVIDING RIGHT-OF-WAY SEGMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS TO OUR BENEFIT. STAFF ARE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES AND BEST TIMING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.

A TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILSON BRIDGE ROAD WILL BECOME ONE OF THOSE PRIORITIZATION THINGS.

HOW YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE THE FUNDING FOR THAT TRAIL, WHATEVER WE CAN'T PIECE TOGETHER THROUGH GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

THE OTHER BIG PROJECT YOU PRIORITIZED IN YOUR RECENT RETREAT WAS MCCORD PARK. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONCEPTUAL PLAN APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR THAT PARK.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING A CONSULTANT WHO WILL HELP US WITH THE DETAILED SCENE WORK.

THAT WE CAN BE GEARED UP FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.

WE HAVE MONEY IN THE C.I.P. TO DO THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS.

WE WANT OUR CABOOSE OBSERVATION AREA, AS A PART OF THAT.

AND BE WORKING ON THE ACTUAL PARK DESIGN ASPECT TO BE GEARED UP FOR NEXT YEAR. WILSON BRIDGE.

DIRECTOR WHITED. >> NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT.

WE ARE WELL UNDERWAY WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND EASEMENT ACQUISITION, IMPROVING THOSE ACQUISITIONS OVER TIME.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE BETWEEN NINE AND 15.

I LOSE TRACK. THE HUNTLEY ROAD WATERLINE, WHICH YOU WILL SEE WE'RE HOPING TO PUT THAT OUT TO BID, GET YOUR PERMISSION NEXT WEEK AND HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTED IN 2019 USING OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION FUNDS.

THE RESTAURANT PROMOTES, WE YESTERDAY SUCCESSFULLY RIGHTS OF ENTRY ALONG THE PROPERTIES ALONG THAT.

THAT IS THE IMPROVEMENTS OF RESTAURANT, NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT THAT ALLOWS S TO DRAIN AND PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. BUILDING DEMOLITION WILL START IN FALL OF 2019. AT THE SAME TIME, COLUMBIA GAS AND AEP WILL BEGIN THE UTILITIES RELOCATIONS.

AND ULTIMATELY, THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IN OUR ABOUT SUMMER OF 2020. THAT IS FULLY IN GEAR, FULLY ENGAGED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT LOOKING FORWARD.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW RECENT IT WAS, BUT WE DID ENGAGE EMAT TO INVESTIGATE THE IDEA OF QUIET ZONES. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR REPORT LAST FRIDAY. WE DO HAVE THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING THAT TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, THE WATER LINE PROJECT WILL FINISH RELATIVELY SOON, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

AS CLOSE TO IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT, WE'LL BEGIN THE RESURFACING FROM RAILROAD TO HIGH STREET.

A $590,000 INVESTMENT. AND ODOT IS LOOKING AT A DECK REPLACEMENT ON THE BRIDGE OVER 315 AND OLENTANGY RIVER.

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THAT IS AN ORDER TO FIX A DELAMBINATION.

THERE WILL BE MINOR WIDENING. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO ENHANCE THE FENCING ALONG THERE TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR BIKE RIDERS AND THE BETTER DRAINAGE AND BIKE WAY FOR THE BIKE RIDERS AS WELL AS LENGTHSING THAT FENCE TO GO OVER THE RIVER AS WELL AS OVER 315 ITSELF.

AS I MENTION, THOSE WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMFORT FOR BIKERS AS

THEY BIKE ALONG THE PATH WAY. >> JUMPING IN.

STILL ON THE EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

IN 2016 WE BUILT OFF THE CORRIDOR PLAN AND LOOKED AT DESIGN GUIDELINES AND ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR FROM RIVER TO RAIL. KIND OF THE FOCUS AREA WAS REALLY RELATED TO THE MIX OF USES THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR, MIX OF HEIGHTS, WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW HEIGHT IF NEED ME AS REDEVELOPMENT IN THE CORRIDOR. WHAT YOU ADOPTED IN 2016 ALLOWED FOR GUIDANCE HOW THAT WOULD OCCUR.

THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, WHEN THE AREA DENTIFIED FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, PART OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN THE DENSITIES AND HEIGHTS THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, TWO-AND-A-HALF STORIES WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE CORRIDOR PLANS AND WHAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES. WE HAVE SEEN ACTIVITY AND INTEREST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THE 32 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE PORTION FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. TOWARD WEST VIEW WITH THE TWO PROPERTIES THE CITY PURCHASED HOPING THERE IS THAT TRUE MIX OF THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP IN THE CORRIDOR FOR THE FUTURE.

AGAIN, DELVING INTO THE TWO PROPERTIES OWNED BY HE CITY, YOU CAN SEE GAPS WHERE THIS IS PRIORITY OWNERSHIP.

THE GOAL OF THIS ONE IS TO MAYBE GET UNDER CONTRACT, FUTURE PROPERTIES TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR THE CORRIDOR TO DEVELOP. AT THIS TIME, IT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE'LL THREE OUT AS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE WITH THE CORRIDOR. WE DISCUSSED OING AHEAD AND REZONING THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS CONCERN AND SOME HEART BURN, I THINK TO MOVE FORWARD. ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT WILL BE STATUS QUO, STAY AS IT IS.

EXISTING R-10 OR PROACTIVELY REZONE THE PARCELS THROUGH THE CORRIDOR TO CONTROL WHAT CAN HAPPEN OR THE THIRD OPTION, TO PROACTIVELY REZONE TO TWO FARMS FROM R-10 TO OFFICE DISTRICT AND RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

GRAND VIEW PLACE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

32 APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

TO THE WEST OF GRAND VIEW IS RECOMMENDED TOWARD THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS RECOMMENDED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AGAIN, AS MR. MCCORKLE MENTIONED, THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING WE HAVE THE WORTHINGTON GATEWAY, HOLIDAY INN SITE, STARTING LATE FALL. YOU HAVE OVER 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS. A FOUR-STORY HOTEL AND 19,000-SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE. AND IMPROVEMENTS AT KAREN AND HIGH AND WEST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND THE MALL ENTRANCE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AGAIN, MANY OF YOU ARE AROUND IN 2015 WHEN WE DID THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND CORRIDOR PLAN FOR THE CITY. AS WE HAVE PROJECTS COMING IN WE TIE IT BACK TO HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION. IT LOOKS THAT WAY FINDING FOR THE CITY, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, STREET TREES, AND BIKE ND PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY.

WAY FINDING. YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE NEXT PHASE GETTING RETTO ROLLOUT IN THE NEXT MONTH, STARTING ON THE PARK SIGNAGE. EACH YEAR YOU WILL SEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITYWIDE WAY FIND PROJECT.

>> WE HAVE ACTION ITEMS FOR STAFF AND QUESTIONS WE CAN HAVE

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A GENERAL DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL.

HERE ARE ACTION ITEMS FOR STAFF. WE PLAN TO DO A SURVEY OF THE WILSON BRIDGE BUSINESSES. CUSTOM SOLUTIONS WILL HOPEFULLY COME OUT OF THE SURVEY. THINGS THAT MAY COME BACK ARE ECONOMIC PROGRAMMING, ADJUSTING EXISTING PROGRAM THAT COULD INCLUDE BUILDING UPGRADES, PARK AND TRAIL, RECRECTIONAL AMENITIES, QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIESES.

WE'RE HOPING TO LEARN MORE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CUSTOM APPROACHES TO MAKING SURE THEY ARE GROWING AND EXPANDING IN WORTHINGTON. STREET COST UPDATE.

WE HAD SOME ESTIMATES ON STREETSCAPE EXPENDITURES AND WE'RE UPDATING THOSE. DIRECTOR WHITED WILL TRACK COSTS FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS. ARBOR IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN SEVERAL OF THESE OCCURRING. EVALUATION OF NEED FOR A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORTHINGTON IDENTIFIED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM WAS THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TURN LEFT OUT OF OLD WILSON BRIDGE ROAD ONTO WEST WILSON BRIDGE. THIS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE PUT BEFORE YOU THAT WE WANT TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER.

EVALUATION OF NEED FOR INCREASED ECONOMIC FUNDING OR SIMPLY A SHIFT. WE'RE HOPEFUL HE BUSINESS SURVEY WILL SHED LIGHT ON THIS. I MAY NOT NEED TO TO COME BACKD ASK FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. IT MAY SHIFT THE EXISTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS. AN EVALUATION OF EED FOR POTENTIAL STAFF INCREASE IN THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT OR DEDICATED CONSULTANT FOR THE CORRIDOR. SOME OF THINGS WE'RE PROPOSING FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT OR HOPING TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK ARE THE OLENTANGY RIVER ROAD, WILSON BRIDGE DECK DESIGN.

THIS IS ON WILSON BRIDGE DESIGN DOLLARS ARE THE RESOURCE.

THESE ARE ALL RESOURCE CONSIDERATIONS, THINKS WE WOULD LIKE SO SOLICIT FEEDBACK, PRIORITIZATION FROM YOU HIS EVENING. OLD WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND THE INTERSECTION STUDY. I MENTIONED WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES. THAT IS YOUR GUIDANCE ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO INVESTIGATE THAT.

OLD WILSON BRIDGE, THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES.

SO THE DOLLARS FOR THAT ONE POTENTIAL SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THIS IS OUR TIFF REVENUE OFF THE HEIGHTS.

THAT IS NOW, THAT REVENUE LINE HAS APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, GENERATED ABOUT $150,000 A YEAR.

IT'S BEEN ONLINE FOR THREE YEARS.

IT HAS REVENUE IN IT NOW. THAT MAYBE A SOURCE FOR SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO OCCUR. EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD TRAIL DESIGN AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION.

IS THIS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL? REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES ON EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. WE PRESENTED THE THREE AVAILABLE OPTIONS, PERHAPS GUIDANCE ON THAT.

REVISING THE DENSITY GUIDELINES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. I HAVE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE THAT TWO STORIES AND 25 FEET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T PENCIL.

IF WE WERE TO TRY AND GIVE AWAY THE PROPERTIES THE CIC OWNS AND PROVIDE A PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT, IT IS NOT ADVANTAGEOUS ENOUGH UNDER CURRENT DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.

AND THE FUNDING REQUEST. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE A CAPITAL BILL REQUEST THIS YEAR.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS PRETTY MUCH ANY DIRECTOR THAT IS SITTING HERE.

BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YEAH? >> D. SMITH: QUESTION.

AND FEEL FREE TO SAY NO COMMENT IF THIS IS TABOO.

HAS THE SCHOOL CONSIDERED ANY PORTION OF WILSON BRIDGE FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION? OR APPROACHED THE CITY IN

ANYWAY? >> HAS THE SCHOOL?

>> D. SMITH: YES. >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

WE HAVE -- I HAVE ASKED THE SCHOOL WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING WITH SOME OF THEIR ABUNDANCE OF SURFACE PARKING TO

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HAVE DENSITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON AS THEY ADDRESS THEIR FACILITY NEEDS AND DIDN'T SEEM TO TAKE MY

REQUEST VERY SERIOUSLY. >> R. DOROTHY: DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF HE SCOPE

OF THOSE DOLLAR SIGNS? >> I DO NOT KNOW THE MAGNITUDE OF ANY OF THOSE COSTS. DIRECTOR WHITED OR HURLEY? GOING BACK TO THE LIST OF SOME OF HE COSTS.

>> M. GREESON: I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO MCCORD PARK.

WHEN WE WORKED WITH POD DESIGN THEY HAD US BETWEEN TWO AND TWO AND A HALF MILLION FOR MCCORD PARK.

YOU CAN IMPACT THOSE ARE DESIGN AND PLAYGROUND AND SO FORTH.

>> YEAH. >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, MR. WHITED CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE MAIN ISSUES ARE O.D.O.T. FUND MOST OF IT. BUT THEY WILL PUT GALVANIZED FENCING LIKE WHAT IS ON 161. IF WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE HIGHER IN ESTHETICS, WE'LL HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT THAT IS AND -- AND COVER THE DIFFERENTIAL COSTS BETWEEN THE STANDARD AND THE MORE DECORATIVE FENCING.

>> R. DOROTHY: COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: A QUARTER OF A MILLION, IS THAT WHAT WE

SPEND ON HIGH STREET? >> M. GREESON: THIS WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE DO SOMETHING AS FANCY IN THAT REGARD.

BUT THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, AND MR. WHITED, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY DON'T HAVE PLANS FOR FENCING OVER THE SECTION THAT GOES OVER THE RIVER. AND SO WE WOULD BE-- THAT WOULD

BE ALL US. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: TO PAY FOR

THAT. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

LENGTHSING THE FENCE WOULD BE AT OUR COST AS WELL AS THE AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENTS TO THE FENCING.

THE COST FOR THE, I THINK, WELL -- PROJECT INSPECTIONS IN GENERAL, IS ABOUT 8% OF THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO YOU CAN TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND MULTIPLY IT BY 8% AND ADD IT UP AND THAT WOULD BE THE RANGE OF DOLLARS YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT THOSE CATEGORIES AND THE OTHER C.I.P. PROJECTS WE HAVE.

>> M. GREESON: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING BACK SOME DESIGN

DOLLARS IN THE 2020 BUDGET. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> M. GREESON: FOR THE BRIDGE DECK, THE FENCING.

OR IS IT SOONER? >> THEY WILL BEGIN THEIR DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS IN JULY OF THIS YEAR MAYBE.

THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE WON'T BE UNTIL 2020.

IF WE'RE NEEDING TO PAY DESIGN COST THAT WILL BE FR PRIOR TO 2.

>> M. GREESON: THE SECOND PIECE, OLD WILSON BRIDGE AND

INTERSECTION -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: JUST A MINUTE ON THE FIRST ONE. I GET AN ENHANCED BIKE LANE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY EXTRA WIDTH?

>> A MINOR INCREASE IN WIDTH. A MINOR WIDENING F THAT BRIDGE

DECK. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: HOW MUCH?

>> WE CAN ASK FOR A A LOT BUT WE WON'T GET MUCH.

THEY ARE NOT REPLACING THE SUPER STRUCTURE OF THE BRIDGE.

THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN EXTEND.

AS I UNDERSTAND, A FEW FEET. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A FEW FEET FOR A BIKE PATH.

>> ENOUGH TO MAKE IT A MORE COMFORTABLE WRITE AND GET IT

SCUPPERS OUT OF THE WAY. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IF WE CAN

GET -- >> M. GREESON: FOR THOSE OF WHEW WHO HAVE CYCLED, IF YOU CAN WIDEN IT AND IMPROVE THE SCUPPER, WHICH ARE CHALLENGING. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE JUST A PARAPET WALL WITH NO FENCE AND THAT IS A LITTLE IT UNCOMFORTABLE. THAT INCREASES THAT -- YEAH.

>> R. DOROTHY: CAN I STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.

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-- >> B. KOWALCZYK: I'M A BIG-PICTURE PERSON. WE HAVE THIS LIST OF THINGS, AND I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO WITH THAT LIST. YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THE CORRIDOR. I ASSUME ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO THAT PLAN. OR SOME MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS. ARE THERE TIMEFRAMES WHERE SOMETHING SHOULD BE DECIDED MORE QUICKLY? ARE SOME IN THE BUDGET NOW OR THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE? WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, WHAT

DO YOU WANT FROM US? >> I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS NINE QUESTIONS. I HAD SIMILAR ISSUES PUTTING THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER. WILSON BRIDGE ROAD IS A SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING THAT TOUCHES MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK THIS EVENING, ASKING YOU FOR A LOT OF SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES. WE WANT TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE LIST. STAFF HAS THEIR OWN LIST OF OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT CROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. COMING OUT OF THE RETREAT KNOWING THIS WAS A TOP PRIORITY, WE WANTED TO AT LEAST HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE DISCUSSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK ON A COUPLE OF THESE.

MOST OF THESE ARE NOT IN THE EXISTING BUDGET.

A COUPLE OF THEM ARE COMPONENTS. IF YOU LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WILSON BRIDGE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THESE ARE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES. THEY AVE LONG HAD CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THEIR EMPLOYEES BEING ABLE TO EXIT BUT THEY ARE, AS MR. GREESON CAN ATTEST TO, THEY ARE STARTING TO EAN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WEREN'T US TO TAKE A HARD LOOK -- WANT -- IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THEY ARE EXECUTIVE SHARED.

WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN INCENTIVES.

WE'RE INTERESTED IN FIXING THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. SO I DO THINK THERE IS A COUPLE OF THESE THAT CREEP A LITTLE HIGHER.

AGAIN, THESE ARE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. COMPETING INTERESTS BETWEEN DIRECTORS. BUT WE'RE JUST HOPING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE AND COME BACK TO YOU CAN ADDITIONAL

PLANS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ON THE SAME TIMELINE. I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING O PUT PRIORITIES TOGETHER BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THINGS FROM STAFF HAVE TO HAPPEN QUICKER. SOME THINGS CAN BE PUT FURTHER BACK. SOME THINGS MIGHT BE INEXPENSIVE SO THEREFORE IT'S WORTH PUTTING FORWARD.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK WE GOT A HINT THAT THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD DECK DESIGN IS GOING TO GO FORWARD THIS SUMMER.

WE BETTER PUT THAT CLOSE TO THE TOP IF WE WANT ENHANCEMENTS AND I THINK WE ALL DO. IT COMPLIMENTS THE 270-HIGH STREET BRIDGE. WHAT IS GOOD FOR WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES IS GOOD FOR WORTHINGTON, AND --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S UP THERE.

>> I WOULD ECHO THAT ALSO. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT INTERSECTION ISSUE. IF WE HAVE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE OUT OF THE TIFF ACCOUNT, I WOULD SAY WHY DIDN'T WE START ON THAT LAST WEEK?

>> RIGHT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MY POSITION ON THAT ONE. BECAUSE EVEN WITHOUT WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES, ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO HINGE ON THAT INTERSECTION. IT IS A MESS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I CAN TELL YOU HOW DANGEROUS IT IS BECAUSE I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.

EVERY TIME I GO IN AND OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, I GO THROUGH THERE.

SOMETIMES IT'S NIP AND TUCK. PEOPLE NOT GETTING OUT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

AND THAT SIGNALIZING THAT MAY NOT BE THE FIX.

IT MAY BE A SERVICE ROAD OR MOVING TRAFFIC FURTHER WEST.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU COME BACK WITH A CONSULTANT PROPOSAL THAT WOULD TELL ME THE PROPER FIX AND I THINK WE SHOULD START

ON THAT RIGHT AWAY. >> M. GREESON: IF I COULD PUT THESE IN BUCKETS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THIS ONE IS COMING HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST.

SO ONE BUCKET WOULD BE DEVELOPING THE USE OF THOSE TIFF DOLLARS? RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO BE USED IN APPROXIMATELY OF THE HEIGHTS TO BENEFIT THAT AREA. BECAUSE IT WAS A DISTRICT TIFF

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FOR THE PROJECT. I BELIEVE THE INTERSECTION FITS THAT AND I BELIEVE STREETSCAPING FITS THAT.

WHAT I THINK WE'LL DO IS DEVELOP A PROPOSAL TO STUDY THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE THERE. AND COME BACK FOR AN APPROPRIATION OUT OF THE TIFF TO FUND IT.

ONCE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED CONCEPTUAL OPTIONS, WE WOULD THEN ALSO LOOK AT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOLLARS WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE APPLIED TO THAT ISSUE.

THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE. AND THEN WHETHER THERE ARE DOLLARS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR STREETSCAPE AND WE'RE UPDATING THE STREETSCAPE NUMBERS. THAT IS ONE BUCKET, LIKE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN OR THE TIFF DOLLARS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: ABOUT TO DISRUPT A LITTLE FURTHER EAST ON

WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. >> M. GREESON: IT'S A PROCESS.

ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A DISCRETE REVENUE STREAM, THINKING HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT, INCLUDING HOW MUCH NEEDS TO BE SPENT ON TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE CATEGORY. THAT CAPTURES TWO OF THOSE ITEMS, THE STREETSCAPING AND INTERSECTION STUDY.

THE BRIDGE DECK DESIGN IS JUST COMING AT US AND WE HAVE TO REACT TO IT. WE MAY HAVE TO ASK YOU FOR SUPPLEMENTARY C.I.P. DOLLARS FOR THAT.

ANOTHER BUCKET IS PLANNING. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANNING IN THIS AREA. ONE THING WE THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IS REZONING EITHER THE PARCELS THAT THE CIC ACQUIRED OR POTENTIALLY ALL OF THAT AREA AT SOME POINT.

AND THEN MR. MCCORKLE TALKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH MAKING OFFICE DEVELOPMENT COMPETITIVE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF A PLANNING CONVERSATION THAT'S A

BUCKET OF ISSUES. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REZONING THE PARCELS WE OWN OR THE ENTIRE

AREA? >> M. GREESON: YOU COULD DO ONE OF FOUR THINGS. YOU CAN DO NOTHING.

YOU CAN JUST, THE CIC IS ACQUIRED.

YOU COULD JUST DO THE OFFICE SECTION.

OR YOU COULD DO ALL OF IT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DO NOTHING SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

>> M. GREESON: THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION, NOT THE STAFF

RECOMMENDATION -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THE

PROJECTS CAME ONLINE. >> M. GREESON: RIGHT.

BUT WE DIDN'T -- THE CIC DIDN'T OWN PROPERTY AT THAT POINT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE GRAND VIEW AT THIS POINT.

I THINK IT'S A LOGICAL TIME TO STEP BACK AND SAY IS THIS THE BEST, STILL THE BEST STRATEGY. THERE IS A SET OF PLANNING ISSUES THAT PRIMARILY RELATES TO EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE LIST, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

MCCORD PARK STANDS ON ITS OWN. YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED IT AS A PRIORITY. I BELIEVE THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU IS MORE SIGNALING TO YOU THAT THESE ARE COMING, IS AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FROM C.I.P.

TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN. THERE WILL BE A COMPONENT UNTILT THE PARKING LOT AS PART OF THE STREET PROGRAM.

AUTHORIZING US TO SUBMIT CAPITAL BILL REQUEST FUNDING LATER THIS YEAR. IT'S COMING.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN HEART, WHICH WE HOPE YOU DON'T, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO TELL US. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION AND TRAIL DESIGN. ESSENTIALLY THAT'S BEEN MOVED FORWARD INCREMENTALLY IN A FEW WAYS.

ONE IS, AND MR. BROWN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SURVEYED THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY SO WE HAVE GOOD HANDLE ON WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINES ARE ON EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. WE HAVE NEGOTIATED RIGHT-OF-WAY SET ASIDE WITH GRAND VIEW PLACE. WE WILL DEDICATE RIGHT-OF-WAY

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WITH THE PROPERTIES THAT THE CIC INCORPORATED.

WE'RE GETTING PIECES OF IT. WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED A TRAIL THAT WOULD SPECIFY WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THAT IS A NEXT STEP. WHEN WE DO THAT, AT THIS POINT, AND I THINK BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE WEST OF THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT THAT NORTHEAST GATEWAY WILL COME -- THIS WOULD BE WHERE THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY ENDS, WEST TO HIGH STREET.

WHERE IT FALLS IN THE FIVE-YEAR C.I.P. FUNDING AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, HAS TO BE BALANCED AGAINST WHETHER WE CAN GET GRANT DOLLARS. HOW IT FITS IN THE OVERALL CONVERSATIONS. MR. HURLLY -- WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS WITH EACH PROJECT TO TRY TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN IT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MANY THINGS AREN'T NEGOTIABLE.

THEY ARE COMING DOWN THE PIKE, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A REAL PROBLEM. THE ONLY NES THAT REQUIRE A LOT OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION IS THE REZONING PROPERTIES AND THOSE ARE THE BIG POLICY THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS A PROBLEM IS WE CAN AFFORD ENHANCING THE BIKE TRAIL AND DESIGN FOR THE BIKE TRAIL TO CONNECT THROUGH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS OPPOSED. THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I THINK THOSE TWO ITEMS MIGHT BE WORTH HAVING DISCUSSION AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE PROS AND CONS OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT.

AND ALSO THE DENSITY GUIDELINES TO TAKE A LOOK.

THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

>> M. GREESON: ONE WOULD BE A COMPONENT FOR THE OTHER AT SOME

POINT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK THAT MERITS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

DOES EVERYONE ELSE PRETTY MUCH AGREE?

>> R. DOROTHY: WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: RIGHT NOW, BEFORE MORE PROPERTIES COME IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER, WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.

SO I THINK IT'S A TIMELY THING TO DISCUSS.

>> M. GREESON: WE'VE EVOLVED OUR WILSON BRIDGE ROAD EFFORTS INTERNALLY FROM -- SO WE HAVE A, MR. MCCORKLE TALKEDDED WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

WE'RE NOW TRACKING IT AS A MASTER PRIORITY FOR A LACK OF A BETTER TERM. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE READILY GIVE UPDATESSEN OEACH OF THESE.

-- ON EACH -- I APPRECIATE MS. KOWALCZYK'S SUGGESTION.

WE MAY CHARGE THESE BY TIME A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AS WE KNOW MORE. I THINK THAT'S CHALLENGING TO DO AT THIS POINT. BUT WE CAN -- WE'LL EVOLVE THAT AND TRACKING OR MASTER PRIORITY TRACKING.

TRY TO PUT TIME AND MONEY CHARTS TO IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABOUT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR GENERAL FEEDBACK TONIGHT, NOT SPECIFIC

ACTION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> M. GREESON: IS THIS HELPFUL? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YEAH, I

THINK IT'S HELPFUL. >> M. GREESON: THIS KIND OF

DISCUSSION HELPFUL? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THE DENSITY WE HAVE NOW WAS THE RESULT OF A LOT OF COOPERATION AND

INFORMATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS. >> YES.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YEAH. AND WE GOT BUY-IN.

I DON'T WANT TO REVISE THAT. I WOULDN'T EVEN BRING IT TO ME UNTIL I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BUY-IN ON WHATEVER YOUR PROPOSAL IS. WHAT MADE THIS SUCCESSFUL THE FIRST TIME. LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS

RENEGE ON A DEAL I MADE. >> THE ANSWER MAYBE THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY ADDITIONAL DENSITY.

AND I'M SHARING THAT TO REDEVELOP THAT UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. YEP.

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. SMI TH.

>> D. SMITH: IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE INITIALLY INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS ARE STILL AROUND.

WHO WE'VE ACQUIRED PROPERTY FROM, WHERE WERE THOSE PEOPLE FROM INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT MIGHT BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE DIRECTION.

>> M. GREESON: I THINK WE MAY NEED TO DO CAPACITY ANALYSIS. YOU MAY RECALL WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN CENTER AT ONE POINT DO ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE OULD FIT AND WHAT KIND OF PARKING.

THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS MAYBE NEEDED, THAT MAY NEED TO BE UPDATED. THE OBVIOUS LIMITATION ON

WHETHER YOU COULD -- >>

>> THAT'S AFTER GIVING AWAY THE LAND AND PUTTING A TAX ABATEMENT

ON IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHERS? MS. KOWALCZYK?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I HAD A QUESTION FROM A SPECIFIC DISCUSSION. WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT SURVEYING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SURVEYING THE CURRENT BUSINESSES IN CORRIDOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY BILITY OR IDEA FOR HOW YOU MIGHT SURVEY BUSINESSES WHO HAD AN INTEREST AND MAYBE DECIDED NOT TO LOCATE THERE? OR ANY OTHER FEEDBACK FROM BUSINESSES WHO AREN'T

CURRENTLY -- >> SURE.

YOU KNOW, I KEEP FILES ON ALL BUSINESSES THAT WE INTERACT WITH, WHETHER WE'RE TRYING TO GO ELSEWHERE OR TRYING TO RETAIN THEM AND THEY GO ELSEWHERE. INCORPORATING THEM INTO THE SURVEY I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. I'M WORKING WITH SEVERAL BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GROWING OUT OF THEIR SPACE AND LOOKING FOR MORE SPACE AND THEY ARE HAVING AN AMOUNT OF DIFFICULTY FINDING THAT IN WORTHINGTON.

AND SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THOSE MORE COMPETITIVE AND KEEP SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES IN PLACE.

PEOPLE LEAVE AND COME FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

I THINK TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WE'VE INTERACTED WITH, WHETHER IT'S CALLS OR EMAILS OR BUSINESSES WE WORKED WITH SEVERAL MONTHS THAT HAVE GONE ELSEWHERE, INCORPORATING

THOSE MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. >> B. KOWALCZYK: OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING OR HOUSES ARE -- HIGH PRIORITY FOR SURE.

BUT IT WOULD BE INTEREST TO ME TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE BY OTHERS.

AND THEN ABOUT WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES AND THEIR INTEREST IN EXPANDING THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. AND THEY WANT US TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY THINK IS NECESSARY TO HIRE MORE TALENT.

AND DO YOU HAVE, ASIDE FROM FIXING THE ONE ISSUE, YOU MENTIONED QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.

>> SURE. WE HAD SOME PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES AND THEY HAVE SHARED FROM A TALENT AND RETRACTION PERSPECTIVE THEY LOOK FOR MORE VIBRANCY, MORE ENERGY.

YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT BLUNTLY, THE SAME RESTAURANT ON THE BACK END OF THE MALL SO MANY TIMES. DIVERSE RESTAURANTS AND PLACES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GO FOR LUNCH OR HAPPY HOURS.

EVENT SPACE, THOSE WERE AMENITIES THEY IDENTIFIED.

BRING EMPLOYEES AND KEEP EMPLOYEES THERE.

>> D. ROBINSON: THE NEW HOTEL IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> THE HOLIDAY INN REDEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO AND HOPE TO SEE MORE OF THAT.

AND I THINK THE SHOPS AT WORTHINGTON PLACE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY PROVIDE MORE OF THAT.

>> M. GREESON: INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I THINK THEY HAD 50 JOB COLUMBUS AREA OR APPROXIMATELY THAT.

THEY ARE ENTERING INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH A POWER BUS.

WHO ACTUALLY PICKED PEOPLE UP AS FAR AS NEWARK TO GET THEM TO THE

EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY ERE. >> R. DOROTHY: WHERE THE

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EMPLOYEES LIVE? >> M. GREESON: I THINK IT'S AN HR OFFERING WHERE IF TRANSPORTATION IS AN ISSUE THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS AS WE'RE HEARING FROM MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THE REGION, THERE IS A WORKFORCE SHORTAGE OR CHALLENGE. THEY ARE COMING UP WITH CREATIVE

WAYS TO GET PEOPLE TO -- >> INCLUDED IN THE SURVEY.

ARE WE MISSING THINGS. YOU KNOW, BUT TRANSIT, RESTAURANTS, UTILITY EXPENSES, WHAT ARE WE MISSING THAT WE CAN POTENTIAL -- OR AT LEAST CREATE PROJECTS TO TRY AND BRIDGE SOME

OF THESE GAPS. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

THING YOU NEED -- >> BIG BLUE BEAR?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I WOULD BE WILLING TO SETTLE FOR A LARGE GREEN TREE FROG. YOU CAN ASK MR. BROWN WHAT I'M

TALKING ABOUT. >> HOW ABOUT A BIG PIECE OF STEEL AT OLD WEST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND WILSON BRIDGE?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WESTERVILLE HAS ONE OF THOSE FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. WE NEVER GOT ONE OF THOSE.

NO I WANT THAT BIG BLUE BEAR LOOKING IN MY OFFICE WINDOW, CAN

YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

ANYMORE DISCUSSION ON THESE TOPICS?

>> M. GREESON: THIS IS YOUR CLASSIC COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. TALKING FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, JUST TALKING ABOUT AN ISSUE. IS THIS --

>> R. DOROTHY: I APPRECIATE BRINGING UP THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE DEFINITIVE TIMELINES THAT WOULD PASS US BY IF YOU DIDN'T BRING THEM UP. THIS DIALOGUE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE TRY TO INTERACT WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES AS POSSIBLE. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE CONNECTIONS WE DON'T. I THINK THE FIRST THREE ARE SUPER IMPORTANT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PASS THIS BY. AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS VERY IMPORTANT TOO TO KNOW ABOUT IT. AS MS. KOWALCZYK NOTED, IF WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION OF TIMELINES AND MORE CONSISTENT UPDATES ABOUT THIS TYPE OF RESOURCE CONSIDERATION AND OPPORTUNITIES, I WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE OF IT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S SOMETHING WE HAD ASKED ABOUT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S -- I WANT TO REITERATE I AGREE VERY STRONGLY WITH THE COMMITMENT WE HAVE MADE, THE COMPACT WE HAVE MADE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. IT WAS A MAJOR EFFORT TO TO GET THAT TOGETHER AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY DELICATE WHEN --

[Additional Item 2]

MR. GREESON, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> M. GREESON: WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LAND ACQUISITION.

BEAR WITH ME A SECOND. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE -- THE MPC MEETING THAT IS NORMALLY SCHEDULED FROM THE 23RD IS GOING TO MOVE TO MAY 30TH. WE ARE IN THE FINAL THROWS OF OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH EFFORT RELATED TO THE 911 COMMUNICATION CENTER. PRESENTING AT THE WORTHINGTON ROTARY CLUB, THANK YOU MS. DOROTHY FOR HELPING ARRANGE THAT. AND WE'LL BE HOSTING , TOMORROW EVENING, A TELEPHONE TOWN HALL. WHERE WE'LL BE CALLING HUNDREDS OF WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO STAY ON A TELEPHONE CALL TO LISTEN O OUR PRESENTATION AND ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR DISTINGUISHED PANELIST. THANKS IN ADVANCE TO MS. STUART, CHIEF STRAIT AND SOMERVILLE FROM THE CITY OF DUBLIN FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN LEADING THAT TELEPHONE TOWN HALL.

[01:45:01]

I BELIEVE MS. BROWN IS SENDING OUT INFORMATION THAT WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO IT, HOW TO DO THAT.

LAST THING IS I JUST WANT TO INFORM YOU I BELIEVE THIS WEDNESDAY, MR. BROWN IS CALLING HOURS, CORBYN FUNERAL HOME, LYNDA BITAR'S PARTNER, EVELYN. KEEP HER FAMILY IN OUR THOUGHTS

AND PRAYERS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. THR ESS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? MR. LINDSEY?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON?

>> D. ROBINSON: NOTHING, MADAM >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: M. FOU

[5. Reports of Council Members]

ST. MR. SMITH.

>> D. SMITH: LAST FRIDAY, A GENERAL SESSION, MORE UPDATES ON THINGS THAT WE ARE ALL PRIVY TO ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IMPORTANT TO GET THE CIC >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY ERS? MS. DOROTHY.

>> R. DOROTHY: THE MCCONNELL ARTS CENTER OPENED UP.

TICKET SALES JUNE 14 FOR THE WORTHINGTON ARTS FESTIVAL, THE 15TH AND 16TH. IT'S A NICE EVENT.

YOU CAN GET THOSE TICKETS ONLINE TODAY.

BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW

ALCZYK? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I WANTED TO SAY THANKS FOR COORDINATING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO VISIT THE NORTHWEST COMMUNICATION CENTER. I GOT TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.

NANCY NICODEMUS GAVE TOUR. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO TAKE A TOUR. I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY. IT WAS HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AND I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO REPORT.

[7. Executive Session]

SO MR. SMITH MOVES WE CAN GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LAND ACQUISITION, SECONDED BY MR. FOUST. MS. THRESS, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON EXECUTIVE SESSION?

IT'S QUICK AND EFFICIENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICH

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY, MS. DOROTHY CALLS US OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SECONDED .



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.