[00:00:02] >> I'M GOING TO CALL THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING [1. Call To Order] OF MONDAY, JULY 8TH TO ORDER. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE RELI REPUBLIC FOR WHT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY ND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [4.A. Oath of Office - Police Sergeant Executive Summary: The Oath of Office will be administered to recently promoted Police Sergeant Emily Lanzer.] >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OATH OF OFFICE BEING GIVEN TO OUR NEW PROMOTED POLICE SERGEANT, EMILY LANDSER. >> RECOMMENDS OF COUNCIL, AS ALWAYS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE TO ONE OF OUR NEWLY PROMOTED POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE REACHED AN IMPORTANT PHASE IN THEIR CAREER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF STRAIGHT, WHO WILL INTRODUCE SERGEANT LANDSER AND IN A MOMENT I'LL ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE. >> THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MADAM PRESIDENT. ON MAY 17TH, I HAVE THE FINE HONOR OF PROMOTING NOW THEN OFFICER EMILY LANDSER TO NOW ARRANGSERGEANT LANDSER. SHE IS THE DIVISION SECOND FEMALE SERGEANT. EMILY HAS BEEN WITH THE DIVISION SINCE 1999. SHE'S GOT A LITTLE TEEN YOU'RE . SHE HAS A TACTICAL TEAM MEMBER. SHE SERVED TWO TOURS IN THE DETECTIVE BUREAU. SHE'S BEEN A TRAINING OFFICER IN THE DETECTIVE BUREAU. SHE'S ALSO BEEN A TRAINING OFFICER ON THE STREET. SHE'S BEEN AN OFFICER IN HARGE ON THE STREET. SHE'S PATROL FIELD TRAINING FOR US. SHE WAS OFFICER OF THE YEAR IN 2017. SHE IS BEEN OFFICER OF THE QUARTER NUMEROUS TIMES WITHIN THE DIVISION. SHE'S CURRENTLY HOLDS A MASTER DEGREE IN SOCIOLOGY AND CRIMINALLOLOGY AND HAS A BATCHERS IN CRIMINALLOLOGY AND SOCIOLOGY. SHE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO WOMEN'S LAW ENFORCEMENT NETWORK AND PAST SECRETARY FOR THAT ORGANIZATION. SHE'S PUT HER TIME IN. SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HER AS A SUPERVISOR WITH THE DIVISION. REAL RIEFLY, I KNOW SHE HAS A LOT OF FOLKS HERE SO I'D LIKE T. HER HUSBAND, JEFF. HER FATHER DENNIS AND STEP MOTHER THERESA. HER SISTER HE'S BETH AND LORI ARE HERE AS WELL. SHE'S GOT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE AND SOME PEOPLE I HAVEN'T MENTIONED. I'LL LET HER INTRODUCE VERYBODY HERE SHORTLY. IF YOU WOULD KIND TO COME UP AND ADMINISTER THE OATH. THANK YOU. >> I SOLEMNLY SWEAR. >> THE STATE OF OHIO AND I WILL OBEY HE LAWS THEREOF. AND THAT I WILL IN ALL RESPECTS OBSERVE THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS MUNICIPALITY. AND HAT I WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES. OF POLICE SERGEANT. THE POSITION UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] INTRODUCE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND JEFF'S FAMILY AS WELL. >> THIS IS MY SISTER LAURA. THIS IS MY DAD, ENNIS. MY STEP MOM. MY HUSBAND JEFF. MY MOTHER-IN-LAW NANCY. MY FATHER IN LAW. MY SISTER BETH AND A MY NEPHEW, JUSTIN. >> I FEEL LIKE I HAVE MY BACK TO PEOPLE. [LAUGHTER] >> T ALWAYS HAPPENS THAT WAY. >> IT'S NORMAL. >> SO I'M BLESSED TO BE HERE AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS. I LOVE LIVING IN THIS AREA AND HAVING SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING AS A SERGEANT. THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO LET ME COME IN TONIGHT AND BE SWORN IN. I ENJOY BEING HERE. READY TO KEEP GOING. [LAUGHTER] >> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SERVICE YOU'VE GIVEN TO OUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE DIFFERENT [00:05:03] ROLES THAT YOU'VE TAKEN ON. ALL OF THE CHIEF JUST MENTIONED. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT MORE GREAT THINGS YOU ARE GOING TO BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, YOU ARE WELCOME TO. [LAUGHTER] SOMETIMES I FIND PEOPLE GET UP AND LEAVE IF I GIVE THEM A COUPLE MOMENTS. WE UNDERSTAND. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT OUT. THANK YOU. OK. MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC IS [5.A.I. Electric Vehicle Charging Stations ] THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AND WE HAVE A SUMMARY AND UPDATE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND CHARGING STATIONS. >> AS YOU RECALL, EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU IDENTIFIED EVALUATING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AS AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY YOU WANTED STAFF TO PURSUE. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH CLEAN FUELS OHIO TO HELP WITH THAT VALLATION REPRESENTATIVES ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR FINDINGS AND ANALYSIS. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO WE WILL ATTEMPT TO BE BRIEF THIS EVENING. YOU HAD IDENTIFIED ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS AS A PRIORITY. AS SUCH, STAFF HAS PARTNERED WITH QUEEN FIELDS, OHIO AND SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS EVALUATING DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WHICH YOU WILL HEAR TONIGHT. IT'S NOT JUST MYSELF FROM STAFF. WE HAD DIRECTOR WHITE, DIRECTOR HURLEY, DIRECTOR BROWN, WHO IS NOT HERE, DIRECTOR OLIVER, SO THIS WAS REALLY A EAM EFFORT. WE'VE TOUCHED A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANDREW CONLEE FROM CLEAN FUELS OHIO. HE WILL PRESENT THE TECHNICAL PIECES. SOME COSTS, SOME ESTIMATES, WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. I WANT TO REPEAT UP FRONT, AND THEN HE WILL REPEAT LATER, THAT WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR DECISIONS TONIGHT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PIECES THAT WE ARE ASKING OUNCIL FOR. ONE OF WHICH BEING ARE THESE LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING, ARE THESE IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND SECONDLY, THERE SAY GRANT OPPORTUNITY. IS COUNCIL READY TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO PURSUE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. THE NATURE, THE SPECIFIC DETAILS THOUGH WE DO NOT NEED TO GET INTO TONIGHT. WE ARE STARTING TO POSE THOSE DECISIONS. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE ANDREW CONLEE FROM QUEEN'SFIELDS, OHIO. >> THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. JUST BRIEFLY, CLEAN FIELDS, OHIO, WE ARE A NON-PROFIT 501-C3. ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS MOVING VEHICLES ON THE ROAD USE LESS FUEL OR CLEANER FUEL. SO THAT IS WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT, WHY YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IT AS A PRIORITY. YOU CAN SEE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GROWTH BOTH HERE IN THE MAIN WORTHINGTON ZIP CODE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY AS WELL AS THE STATE AND THE NATION. GROWING AT 33% IN 16, 74% IN '1T IN '19 AND WHY THAT IS IS BECAUSE A NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE COMING TO THE MARKET. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 55 CONSUMER VEHICLES SET TO INCREASE TO 81. INCLUDING S.U.V.S, TRUCKS AND VANS. THIS IS A RANGE OF VEHICLES. >> EXCUSE ME, SIR. WHAT IS THE E.V.E.? >> SO ELECTRIC VEHICLE THERE'S TWO MAIN TYPES. THERE'S A BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLE WITH ONLY BATTERIES. B.E.V. AND THEN THERE'S A PLUG-IN YBRID VEHICLE PHEV AND IT USUALLY HAS THE COMBINED GASOLINE ENGINE AS WELL AS BATTERY SO IT CAN RUN ON BATTERY IF YOU RUN OUT OF BATTERY, YOU RUN BACK ON GASOLINE. SO THEY ARE THE TWO MAIN PLUG-IN VEHICLE TYPES. EXPECTED TO INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE COMING YEARS. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THOSE ARE COMING INTO THE ARKET IN SUCH STRENGTH IS ECAUSE THE PRICE PER KILOWATT HOUR OF THE BATTERY IN 2012 IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS A KILOWATT IT WILL DROP BELOW $100 A KILOWATT [00:10:01] FOR THESE BATTERY ACKS IN THE MID 2020S. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, MAJOR O.E.M.S, THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS ARE INVESTING BILLIONS IN DOMESTIC PRODUCTION, FORD, 40 MODELS BY 2022 AND CHEVY 2023, CHRYSLER SO THESE ARE COMING IN STRONG WITH BILLIONS BEHIND THEM IN INVESTMENT IN PLANTS AND PRODUCTION. SO THIS IS WHY THE CITY IS RIGHT TO LOOK AT ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING. THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MODELS OUT THERE ABOUT POTENTIAL ADOPTION RATES. MOST OF HEM ARE PROJECTING 25% MARKET PENETRATION BY 2030 OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES SO THEY'RE ALREADY HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY TODAY. SO BASED ON THAT, THERE'S THREE TYPES OF CHARGING STATIONS. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION. THERE'S A LEVEL 1, WHICH IS THE 110-VOLT, 120-VOLT WALL OUTLET THAT EVERYONE IS USED TO IN OUR HOMES. THERE'S A 240-VOLT WHICH IS LIKE AN ELECTRIC WASHER DRYER AND STOVE RANGE IN YOUR KITCHEN. AND THERE'S LEVEL 3. TYPICALLY CHARGERS ARE IN HE LEVEL 2 AND LEVEL 3 RANGE. MOST FOLKS FUEL AT THE COMMON PLUGS AT THEIR GARAGE. IF THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT LEVEL 2 OR LEVEL 3, LEVEL 2 GIVEN YOU ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT KILOWATTS AN HOUR AND ABOUT 45 MILES A RANGE WHERE LEVEL 3 IS GIVING YOU ABOUT 50 KILOWATTS IN AN HOUR IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT FULL-RANGE FOR YOUR VEHICLE DEPENDING ON THE TYPE. SO BASED ON THAT, WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH VARIOUS STAFF AROUND THE CITY AS YOU'VE HEARD AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. AND IDENTIFIED THREE PRIMARY LOCATIONS. THE INITIAL THREE TARGET LOCATIONS. FOR THREE SPECIFIC REASONS SO THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER, A GREAT LOCATION SERVING SPECIFIC WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS. ALSO THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM SOME OF YOUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT BUILDINGS. IT ALSO GIVES ACCESS TO FUTURE DEPLOYMENT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THE CITY'S FLEET. THE DOWNTOWN OLD WORTHINGTON SPECIFICALLY THE LOT ON WEST NEW ENGLAND. THAT WOULD SERVE AS WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS AND FOLKS COMING INTO TOWN TO VISIT AND SHOP AND DINE IN DOWNTOWN OLD WORTHINGTON. AND THE NEW WORTHINGTON GATEWAY DEVELOPS, PERFECT ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING YOUR COMMUNITY FROM A LITTLE FARTHER AFIELD. OUR GOALS AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE VARIOUS OPTIONS WE ANALYZE TO INSTALL THE FASTER CHARGERS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND DOWNTOWN OLD WORTHINGTON AS A PHASE 1. THE REASON, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE FASTER CHARGERS, AS MR. MACORKAL MENTIONS, THOSE ARE INCENTIVES. GRANTS DONE IN A REIMBURSEMENT REBATE BASIS. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR TWO STATIONS UP TO $150,000. AND SO, AFTER GETTING THOROUGH COST ASSESSMENTS FROM MANUFACTURERS, BOTH SITES ARE ABLE TO HOST THE D.C. FAST CHARGERS. THE WEST NEW ENGLAND OT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN UPGRADED UTILITY SERVICE FROM A.E.P. BUT WE HAD A.E.P. ENGINEER COME OUT AND QUOTE US THAT COST EMBEDDED HERE. TOTAL PROJECT TWO FAST CHARGERS AT EACH OF THESE PRIMARY LOCATIONS BOTH FALL IN THE RANGE OF THE AVAILABLE INCENTIVES. THEY DON EXCEED THE MAXIMUM COSTS AND SO IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 100% GRANT FUNDED REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE A.E.P. PROGRAM. THERE ARE -- THEY'RE EXPECTING TO CITE 75 OF THESE CHARGERS. WE JUST HEARD LAST FRIDAY THEY CITED 30 TO DATE. THERE'S STILL ROOM TO GO HERE AND GET FUNDING. THEY ARE ELIGIBLE. WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF THE UTILITY BILLS WORKING WITH FOLKS AT A.E.P. AND THIS BOILS DOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY E.V.S WILL CHARGE, HOW DRAINED THEIR BATTERIES WILL BE. DO THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT OR THE WHOLE BATTERY FULL. OVER THE COURSE OF THE HOUR THEY MAY BE PARKED AT THE STATION. WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS RIGHT HERE WE HAVE A LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH SCENARIO WOULD BE THE BETTER WAY TO FRAME THIS. [00:15:04] IT BOILS DOWN TO THERE ARE SOME COSTS ON GOING FOR THE UTILITY CHARGE PER MONTH. WITH SIMPLE FEE STRUCTURES THAT MOST OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS CAN SEAMLESSLY. YOU CAN CHARGE $1.76 TO $4 AN HOUR. THEY HAVE APPS THAT ANYONE WOULD DOWNLOAD AND EVERYTHING IS DONE SEAMLESSLY SO THERE'S NO REAL MANAGEMENT OF THE ASSET ON THAT FRONT. IF YOU WERE TO GO FORWARD, THERE'S AN APPLICATION WITH A.E.P. THAT WE COULD ASSIST THE CITY ON. MOST OF THE WORK WOULD BE REAR E REPURCHASED. WE HAVE 80% ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE'S, AS HE SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE DECISION POINTS. ARE THESE THE RIGHT LOCATIONS THAT SERVICE THE PRIORITIES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SET. IS THE COUNCIL READY TO DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS APPLICATION PROCESS. SLIGHTLY LONGER TERM IS THEY'LL COME ONLINE THINKING THROUGH DOES THE CITY WANT TO OFFER THIS AS A AN AMENITY? HOW DOES THE CITY WANT TO HANDLE THE ON GOING COST OF THE ELECTRICITY FROM THE USERS AT THESE STATIONS. THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW AND HAPPY TO DDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? >> IS THERE A WINDOW OF TIME OR A DOLLAR CAP ON THE ASSISTED FUNDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> THIS IS ALL STEMMING FROM A PUBLIC UTILITIES SETTLEMENT. SO THERE'S $10 MILLION AVAILABLE. THE WINDOW OF TIME TO SPEND THAT IS FOUR YEARS. AS I SAID, THERE ARE 30 OUT OF 75 AND THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO HALF OF IT SPENT AFTER JUST THE END OF 2019 WILL BE THE END OF YEAR ONE. WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO ANYONE WHO ASKED THAT QUESTION, SOONER THE BETTER. >> WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING WITH REGARD TO MAKING IT FREE VERSUS SOME KIND OF CHARGE? >> SO, MOST ENTITIES OFFERING THE LEVEL 2 CHARGERS WHICH DRAW MUCH LESS POWER. THEY'RE OFFERING THOSE AMENITIES SO, FREE ESSENTIALLY. OR FREE FOR THE FIRST SEVERAL HOURS BUT A FEE LATER. THE D.C. FAST CHARGERS, THEY'RE GOING TO DRAW MORE POWER. SO THERE'S MORE OF A NEED TO CHARGE TO MAKE SURE THE CITY ISN'T STUCK WITH THAT COST. >> ON MY DAY JOB, I'VE SEEN ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS FROM START TO FINISH AND YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THIS WHOLE PROGRAM ORKED. IT JUST IS COMMONSENSE TO ME. YOU KNOW, I'M NO SKIN IN THE GAME OTHER THAN THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS. ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION WAS, I THINK THE TWO OR THREE PUBLIC ENTITIES THAT I'VE SEEN INSTALL THESE HAVE CHARGED BETWEEN $2 AND $4 FOR AN HOUR AND THE RATIONAL ANYONE WHO DRIVES AN ELECTRIC CAR AND USES A FAST CHARGER UNDERSTANDS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AS PART OF THE DEAL OF DRIVING THIS TYPE OF CAR. >> OHIO STATE HAS A NUMBER OF LEVEL 2 CHARGERS. THEIR THEORY IS WE DON'T GIVE FREE GASOLINE SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON AND IT'S VERY SEAMLESS FOR THE USERS. >> SO IN TERMS OF WHERE THESE ARE LOCATED, IN PROXIMITY TO WORTHINGTON, I'M JUST INTERESTED, HOW MANY OF THE LEVEL 3 CHARGES ARE NEARBY THE CITY? >> THERE'S ONE AT THE TRIPLE A NEARBY HERE. AND THERE'S A COUPLE MORE KIND OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS AT SOME DEALERSHIPS AROUND OWN. THERE'S A MAP, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING THAT UP FOR YOU GUYS. IF YOU GO TO THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL DATA CENTER THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AS, YOU CAN PUT IN THE ZIP CODE AND GET CHARGES WHETHER THEY'RE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. THERE ARE A HANDFUL AROUND TOWN BUT NONE IN WORTHINGTON OTHER THAN TRIPLE A. >> IS THAT THE TRIPLE A ON SANCUS OR IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON WHETHER HAVING THESE WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE TO OUR DOWNTOWN [00:20:03] AREA? >> YES. I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS I CAN CITE YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE HAVE THOSE BACK AT UR OFFICE AND CAN PROVIDE THOSE. ELECTRIC VEHICLE OWNERS TEND TO DWELL IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S AMENITIES AND CHARGING AND THE LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WOULD HAVE BOTH WHEN YOU ADD CHARGING. OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE DRAWING IT'S OWN IN DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON AS WELL. >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON THAT YOU WOULD THINK THE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE AT HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO CHARGE THEIR CARS BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HOPE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THESE CHARGERS. YOU START OFF THE PRESENTATION BY NOTING THAT BY 2030, WHICH IS 10 YEARS AWAY, A 25% MARKET PENETRATION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> THAT MEANS 25% OF THE PASSENGER VEHICLES SOLD WOULD BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES BY 2030. >> THAT'S QUITE A LOT IN ONLY 10 YEARS. WE'D BE MISSING OUT BY NOT HAVING ANY OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS IN DOWNTOWN ANY PEOPLE MIGHT BY PASS WORTHINGTON IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. DO YOU KNOW HOW FAST -- APPROXIF WEGOTTA WARDED THIS GRW PAST WOULD WE PUT THESE IN? >> THEY WOULD BE THE BAG LOG WOULD BE. SO FOR THESE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY TRENCHING TO A SIDEWALK LOCATION BOLTING DOWN THE HARDWARE AND INSTALLING THE UPGRADED ELECTRIC PANEL BEHIND THE SCENES. THE REAL DELAY IN THAT WOULD BE A.E.P.S PROCESS TO DO THAT AND COLUMBUS YE YELLOW CAB JUST PUT THESE IN BUT THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION HAPPENED IN THE MATTER OF DAYS. >> THE PRICING, PEOPLE REFERENCE GAS PRICES. I KNOW THOSE FLUCTUATE QUITE A BIT. IF WE DECIDE TO CHARGE AND HOW MUCH WE DECIDE TO CHARGE CAN ONE WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH CHANGING THAT AMOUNT? >> SO, THERE'S KIND OF THE POLICY DECISION AND THE PRACTICALITY OF OF IT. THE PRACTICALITY OF IT IS EVERYTHING IS AT BASE DIGITAL. YOU HAVE A WEB PLACE PLATFORM TO LOG IN AND MAKE THOSE DISTINCTIONS. YOU COULD WHITE LIST PUBLIC VEHICLES IF YOU GOT E.V.S THAT WOULD BE FREE AND YOU CAN TOTALLY TAYLOR THAT STUFF IN TERMS OF THE MANAGEMENT AND DIRECT DEPOSIT FROM USERS, CARDS. IT'S ALL COMPLETELY SEAMLESS, STRAIGHT FORWARD. IT'S VERY SIMPLE AND ON DEMAND. THE REST OF IT IS THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE AND POLICY DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT O OFFER THESE AS AMENITIES AND FUND THE COST OF THE CHARGING ITSELF OR IF YOU WANT TO CHARGE USERS FOR IT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN DIFFERENT DETERMINATIONS FROM DIFFERENT OWNERS OF THESE STATIONS BASED ON WHAT THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THEM. >> I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS, I WANT TO THANK DR. LISA. I KNOW HE DEFINITELY HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS IN THE COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE HIM BEING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> A COUPLE OF PRACTICAL QUESTIONS. I HAVE A PLUG-IN HYBRID AND ON OCCASION I'VE TRIED TO PUBLICLY CHARGE IT AND I FOUND THE CHARGING UNIT WOULD NOT FIT O MY VEHICLE. WAS I DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR IS THERE MORE THAN ONE TYPE? >> SO THE MAIN STANDARD IS WHAT THEY CALL CHATIMO. THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE VEHICLES HAVE. TESLA HAS ITS OWN PROPRIETARY CHARGER LIKE APPLE HAS THEIR OWN CHARGER FOR THEIR PHONE. MOST OF THE CARS THAT COME WITH THE PROPRIETARY CHARGERS COME FROM THE MANUFACTURER WITH AN ADAPTER SO THEY CAN CHARGE IT WITH THE CHATIMO CHARGER. THE ONES WE RECOMMEND, THE SMART COLUMBUS PUBLIC ADAPTERS LIKE OHIO STATE, CITY OF COLUMBUS, CITY OF DUBLIN, THEY'RE USING CHARGE POINT TECHNOLOGY. THE OTHER MAIN ONE FROM THE A.P. PROGRAM, GREEN LOTS, BOTH OF THOSE ARE CHATIMO CHARGERS HAT SHOULD FIT THE MAJORITY OF THE VEHICLES. THE REAL MAINTENANCE IS THEY CAN GET DAMAGED FROM VANDALISM OR USERER OR. SOMEONE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION AND MESSED UP THE ACTUAL CONNECTOR. >> I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, HOW WOULD WE ENCOURAGE OR PREVENT SOMEONE FROM PARKING IN THESE SPOTS AND [00:25:04] CHARGING AND SPENDING THREE HOURS IN THERE WHEN SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO USE THE SPOT? >> THAT'S THE PROGRAMMABILITY OF THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE USER FACE. WE HAVE ONE AT OUR OFFICE BUILDING WHERE WE WORK AND IT'S FREE FOR THE FIRST TWO HOURS AND THEN IT'S $5 AN HOUR AFTER THAT. SO, YOU GET A WARNING VIA THE APP. YOU WILL START BEING CHARGED IN A HALF-HOUR, IN 15 MINUTES, IN FIVE MINUTES, GO MOVE YOUR CAR. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF FOLKS EVEN IF THEY'RE OFFERING THEM FOR FREE, PUT IN A POLICY, A ENALTY POLICY OF WE WANT PEOPLE TO DWELL FOUR HOURS OR LESS AND WE'LL CHARGE A PROHIBITIVE RATE. YOU DON'T WANT TO SET THERE FOR EIGHT HOURS AT $5 AN HOUR. >> THE VARIABLE COST CHART YOU SHOWED US IS AN UNSUBSIDIZED RATE? >> WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF. WE GOT THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS. THE A.P. ACCOUNTS AND WORKED WITH THE ACCOUNT REP FOR THE TWO PARTICULAR BILLING LOCATIONS, THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND SO THIS INCLUSIVE OF YOUR ACTUAL CURRENT RATES AT THOSE LOCATIONS. >> SO THIS WOULD BE THE TOTAL RATE FOR THE ELECTRIC SUPPLY AT THAT STATION? >> YES. UNDER DIFFERENT IS ASSUMPTIONS OF USAGE. >> WE COULD THEN CHARGE AS A WAY TO REDUCE THAT COST? >> CORRECT. THE ONLY THING YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IS CHARGE PER KILOWATT. THAT'S WHY IT'S AN HOUR CHARGE. >> DO YOU HAVE THE FIGURES AVAILABLE OR CAN WE GENERATE FIGURES AS TO WHAT CHARGE WE WOULD HAVE TO ASSESS TO BREAK EVEN? >> YES, THAT'S WHAT IS LISTED RIGHT HERE. >> IS THAT $1.76 AN HOUR? >> SO BASICALLY, IF YOU ARE INSTALLING A 50KW CHARGER THE MAX POWER IS 50 KILOWATTS IN AN HOUR. WE'RE MAKING DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS IF THE NIECE AN LEAF, FOR EXAMPLE, ONLY HAS A 4. IF A NISSAN LEAF PARKED THERE IT COULDN'T USE 50 KILOWATTS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY KILOWATTS IT WILL USE. WE HAVE KIND OF A LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH SCENARIO. THE HIGH SCENARIO IS ASSUMING EVERY CAR THAT PULLS IN IS USING 50 KILOWATTS AN HOUR FOR 12 HOURS CONTINUOUSLY AND THAT WOULD BE CHARGING $4 AN HOUR TO CHARGE TO BREAK EVEN. IT'S 4.12 WHICH IS AN EXACT DIVISION OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. BASICALLY THERE ARE EASY WAYS INFORM ASSESS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WE CAN KIND OF MAKE ASSUMPTIONS NOW OR YOU COULD DECIDE EVERY MONTH. YOU WOULD HAVE A REAL-TIME RUNNING LOG AND WOULD HAVE FULL ADAPTABILITY TO CHANGE THE PRICING AS YOU SEE FIT. SO YOU COULD START FREE AND DECIDE NO THIS IS GETTING USED MORE THAN WE THOUGHT AND CHARGE FOR IT. >> THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER YOU ALL NEED TONIGHT IF WE GO FORWARD. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEBATE DOWN THE ROAD. >> YES. YOU WOULD HAVE BOTH PROJECTED USAGE AND YOU WOULD HAVE VERY ACTUAL NUMBERS ONCE INSTALLED. >> HE UNITS THEMSELVES. ARE THEY CUSTOMIZEABLE AT ALL? >> TO SOME DEGREE. >> I AM GOING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY'RE OING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A. R.B. REVIEW AND I LOOK AT THESE A LITTLE BIT LIKE I LOOK AT A.T.M.S. THERE ARE SOME UNIFORM STANDARDS THAT E IMPOSE ON THESE THINGS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ET YOU PUT NEON OR BRIGHT RED ON IT. CAN I ET DIFFERENT FACE PLATES TO THIS? >> TO SOME DEGREE, YES. I DON'T KNOW THE FULL PARAMETERS OF WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TELL YOU DEFINITIVELY, YES, YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU ARE THINKING OF. >> IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A TWEAK BUT THERE MIGHT BE A TWEAK AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S AVAILABLE. >> YES, I KNOW THE CITY JUST PUT ONE IN DOWNTOWN AREA. DUBLIN HAS PUT IN SEVERAL AT THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER. THEY ARE CUSTOMIZE ABLE TO SOME DEGREE. THEY'RE NOT FULLY CUSTOMIZEABLE. >> THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, WHEN I'M DRIVING ON HE FREEWAY AND I SEE THE SMALL ADVERTISE SIGNS OF THE GAS STATIONS AND RESTAURANTS, HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE FOR THESE STATIONS? ON THE FREEWAY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET OFF AT WORTHINGTON TO CHARGE? >> YES. THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS AN ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLE CORRIDOR DESIGNATION PROCESS. WE ACTUALLY JUST WORKED WITH MORPSI AND OHIO HAS THE SIGNAGE PENDING READY TO DESIGNATE. [00:30:01] THERE'S NO OFFICIAL STANDARD ON THE SIGN TO DATE AND THERE'S NO FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE SIGNS WHICH THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM ON THEIR OWN. THERE'S GUIDANCE FROM THE FEDS AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF DESIGNATED CORRIDORS AND ALL THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS ARE DESIGNATED CORRIDORS. >> THEY CAN BRING PEOPLE TO THOSE LOCATIONS? PARTICULARLY THE ONE DOWNTOWN? >> I'M ASSUMING THAT THE APP TAKES CARE OF BEING BLE TO CHARGE SO WHEN SOMEONE GOES IN THROUGH THE APP, THEIR CREDIT CARD GETS DINGED? >> CORRECT. YOU LOAD THAT UP AND IT'S PRETTY SEAMLESS FOR THE USER AND SEAMLESS FOR THE OWNER OF THE STATION. AND NOW THEY HAVE RECIPROCAL AGREEMENTS SO THE MAJOR PLAYERS HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO SWIPE YOUR CARD EQUIVALENT WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT CHARGERS. >> A QUESTION FOR YOU. FOR THE ACTUAL COST, AND I'M THINKING FOR TWO AT LEAST OR THREE OF THESE LOCATIONS, COULD WE USE TIFF DOLLARS FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE INSTALLATION AND GET REIMBURSED ON THAT TIFF? OR MAYBE THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION? >> I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL PARAMETERS OF THAT. >> IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE A TIFF ELIGIBLE-TYPE EXPENSE. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE FOR THE PARTICULAR TIFF DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE WAS BROUGHT UNDER THE STATUTE TO AUTHORIZING IT. IN GENERAL, THOSE CAN ALSO BE AMENDED SO IF IT WASN'T, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND CLARIFY THE TYPE OF USE. THIS SHOULD FALL UNDER THAT AUTHORITY. >> PUBLIC UTILITIES ARE TYPICALLY -- >> GET BEING BACK INTO OUR GENERAL FUND FOR FREE. >> USE THE TIFF DOLLARS THAT THE DOWNTOWN TIFF IS GENERATING AND THEN REIMBURSE ONCE THE A.E.P. DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE. >> CORRECT. >> I DON'T KNOW BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S A VERY CREATIVE IDEA. >> IF WE GET THE GRANT, WE HAVE TWO THAT WILL BE 100% REIMBURSED. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE WOULD ONLY LOOK AT A THIRD ONE DOWN THE LINE. >> THE THIRD ONE IS -- IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OWNERS OF THE WORTHINGTON GATEWAY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THEY WOULD BE THE APPLICANTS ON THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION. >> YES, SIR. >> I HATE IT SAY IT BUT IT STRIKES MONEY LAUNDERING TO ME. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE LEGAL PROFESSIONAL. >> IF WE'RE DOING A STRAIGHT GRANT WITH A.E.P. FROM THE CITY FOR TWO OF THEM AND THEN THE OWNERS OF GATEWAY DO AN APPLICATION FOR THE THIRD ONE THERE'S REALLY -- IT'S PRETTY CLEAN CUT THE TWO FROM THE CITY AND ONE THAT THE PRIVATE ENTITY GOES OR. >> WHAT WE WOULD DO IS EVALUATE WHETHER WE NEED TO DO THAT FROM A CASH FLOW PURPOSE AND MY GUESS IS FOR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY WE COULD CASH FLOW WITH THE C.I.P. FUND BALANCE AND WAIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT. >> THESE LOCATIONS HAVE EXPANDED, HAVE THEY EXPANDED YET? LET'S SAY WE START WITH TWO DOWNTOWN AND TWO YEARS FROM NOW WE REALIZE WE NEED FOUR. I AM ASSUMING THAT THE FIX COST FOR THE SECOND ROUND IS LESS BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY BROUGHT YOUR SERVICE IN. >> YES. SO THE WEST NEW ENGLAND LOT WE WOULD DROP TWO NEW TRANSFORMERS THAT COULD SERVICE PROBABLY SEVERAL OF THESE SO THE REAL VARIABLE THERE S WHEN YOU REACH THAT MAX LEVEL OF SERVICE AT ANY ONE SITE YOU MAY HAVE TO DROP IN MORE UTILITY SERVICE BUT A.E.P. IS MORE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT AND WEST NEW ENGLAND LOT, THE COST TO THE CITY ON THAT NEW SERVICE IS $2600. SO YOU ARE NOT TALKING AN INTENSE COST. >> YES, YES. >> USUALLY WE NEED TO HEAR THINGS A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD BUT I'M WONDERING, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WON'T WANT TO ASK STAFF TO BEGIN THE GRAND APPLICATION PROCESS? IS THERE ANY DOWN SIDE TO THAT THERE'S FINE TUNING TO BE CONSIDERED. THE WEST NEW ENGLAND PARKING LOT IS HISTORICALLY PROBLEMATIC ON A BUSY FRIDAY NIGHT. IS THAT THE PERFECT LOCATION? WE NEED SOMETHING IN DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON SO THE LOCATION MIGHT BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION. [00:35:02] OBVIOUS LOW MR. MYERS HAS RAISED THE CONSIDERATIONS. I WOULD HOPE THEY'RE NOT SHOW STOPPERS. I WONDER ABOUT DIRECTING STAFF TO START THE PROCESS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IN ORDER TO START THE PROCESS, DO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'LL BE BEFORE THE APPLICATION CAN BE SUBMITTED? >> YES. SO YOU WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT A PROJECT NARRATIVE SO THE MAIN ADDITIONAL TEP WOULD BE PERMITS AND APPROVALS AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION. SO LOCATIONS. >> SO WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE RAISED? >> CAN YOU THINK OF AN ALTERNATIVE -- THE ONLY OTHER PLACE I CAN THINK OF IS AT THE CHURCH PARKING LOT AND MAYBE THE CHURCH WOULD BE THE APPLICANT. IT'S THEIR LOT. I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER PLACE WE CAN PUT THEM? >> BEHIND HOUSE WINE OR THE ONLY REASON I'M QUESTIONING IS BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT, IF WE'RE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF SOMETHING HERE AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT ISSUES ON A BUSY NIGHT AND THE WEST NEW ENGLAND LOT. IF WE'RE AHEAD THE CURVE ON THIS AND IT CREATES TWO OR THREE EMPTY PARKING SPACES, THAT'S GOING TO BE -- BVIOUSLY THESE ARE RESERVED STRICTLY FOR ELECTRIC CARS ONLY. PART OF THE ANALOGY IS IT'S A HANDICAPPED SPACE. IF THOSE SPACES ARE SITTING UNUSED ON A BUSY NIGHT, IS THAT GOING TO BE FRUSTRATING TO RESIDENTS? THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I HESITATE? >> NO MATTER WHICH LOT WE PUT THEM IN. BEHIND HOUSE WINE OR THE LOT BEHIND JETS' PIZZA OR WHATEVER ARE PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD LOCATIONS. THEY PROBABLY FILL UP FASTER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT. AND IT'S EASIER IN AND OUT ON THE NEW ENGLAND LOT THAN BEHIND HOUSE WINE. I APPRECIATE -- I JUST DON'T KNOW WE HAVE A BETTER OPTION. WHEREON THAT PARKING LOT WE PUT THEM, WE DON'T WANT THESE THINGS TO GLARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AT YOUR BROTHER'S HOUSE, YOU KNOW. AND I'LL HEAR ABOUT IT IF THEY DO. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE TWO SITES RECOMMENDED? I DON'T HEAR ANY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION WITH THE CITY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GRANT PROCESS? MR. LINDSEY, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THIS? WILL THE DISCUSSION SUFFICE? >> I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT. >> SAPHIA: TO PURSUE THE GRANT APPLICATION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED. THERE ARE SOME MARCHING ORDERS. THANK YOU FOR A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU WHO WORKED ON GOING OUT THERE AND TRYING TO FIND LOCATIONS. I ACTUALLY HAD GOTTEN AN E-MAIL WAS UPSET AND PICTURES WHY TAKEN WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY AND SOMEONE WOR DID HE DWONDEREDPICTURES AND IT WAS STF LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS FOR THESE. THANK YOU FORKED HART WORK. FFOR THE HARD WORK.WE'RE GOING Y [5.A.II. Energy Efficiency Initiative] EFFICIENCY INITIATIVE AND AN UPDATE WITH OUREN I REMEMBER GEY EFFICIENCY. >> THIS IS FOLLOWING ON THE THEME OF MAKING EFFORTS TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND ENCOURAGE ENERGY USAGE. SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S NERGY EFFICIENCIES EFFORTS RELATED TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE MAINTAINED PARTICULARLY OUR CITY BUILDINGS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER AND HE WILL LEAD THIS PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS UPDATE TONIGHT AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK KRISTA JOHNSTON, OUR INTERN FOR HELPING US WITH THESE SLIDES. SHE MADE NOTES FOR ME. I MAY NOT FOLLOW THEM BUT SHE MADE THEM AND I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST. ERIC FROM A.B.M. IS HERE AS WELL. HE IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE ENERGY INITIATIVE UPDATE FOLLOWS ALONG WITH CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY OF SUSTAINABILITY AND THAT INCLUDES REALLY, AS WE INTERPRET THAT IT INCLUDES [00:40:07] REDUCTION OF POWER ND FUEL CONSUMPTION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND REDUCING ENERGY COSTS AND CREASING CHOICES RELATED TO ENERGY USAGE. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON THIS 7-1702 LEGISLATION FROM O.R.C. THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE ACT WHICH ENCOURAGES GOVERNMENTS TO REDUCE ENERGIES AND COSTS. IT COVERS THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION REMODELING, ELECTRICITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND PRIMARILY HVAC INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR CASE. IN MARCH OF 2018, WE HAD DONE A PRESENTATION ON THIS INITIATIVE WITH YOU. A.B.M. WAS SELECTED TO ASSIST US IN PROVIDING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AND WE'VE GOT QUITE A WAY INTO T AND MADE GREAT PROGRESS AND LIKE I SAY I'M EXCITED TO TELL YOU ABOUT TONIGHT. THE 717-02 ALLOWS US TO DEVELOP A FACILITY LIFE CYCLE MAINTENANCE PLAN IN ADDITION TO SAVING THESE ENERGY COSTS. IT HELPS US WITH PROACTIVE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MAINTENANCE AND OUR SYSTEMS THAT WE MAY OTHERWISE NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO. THERE ARE SYSTEMS WORK DONE IN THE PAST AND THERE WERE REPORTS THAT WERE LESS SURPRISES THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF. ALSO, THE COSTS OF THESE UPGRADES ARE TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH A GUARANTEED PLAN THROUGH A.B.M. BASED ON THE OPERATIONAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE SAVINGS THAT WE ENCOUNTER. THESE ARE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS OR WE ACTUALLY TOOK -- WE PLANNED TO DO WORK AT ALL NINE BUILDING AND THERE WERE SIMPLE PICTURES BUT IT'S IMPORTANT O RECOGNIZE AGAIN THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT WORK AT EACH ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS. WE DON'T HAVE THE POLICE STATION ON THERE. AND I'LL GO OVER DETAIL WHEN WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN THE FUTURE. BEFORE I DO SO, I WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME BRIEF DEFINITIONS. YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT A KILOWATT IS A TERM USED THAT DESCRIBES THE PEAK POWER THIS COMES FROM ELECTRIC GENERATORS. ONE KILOWATT IS 1,000 WATTS OF WATER. AND THAT IS ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO PROVIDE THE INSTANTANEOUS DEMAND OF ONE HOME. IT DEPENDS ON THE WEATHER CONDITIONS AND THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE OF COURSE. A K KILOWATT HOUR ADDS N ELEMENT OF TIME TO THAT POWER USAGE AND A KILOWATT HOUR PER YEAR IS A VOLUME MEASUREMENT FOR THAT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE I'LL BEGIN TALKING ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT BUILDING THAT WE APPROACHED AND DAREN, HURLEY AND CHIEF BAYLOR WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM AS IT TOUCHES EVERY BUILDING. DAREN SPECIFICALLY HAS HAD A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS BUT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'VE DONE SOME SIGNIFICANT NERGY SAVINGS AND AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS PRIMARILY COMPLETE. WE STILL HAVE A FEW THINGS TO BUTTON UP. WE HAD DONE SOME AUTOMATED INSTALLATION FOR THE CONTROLS AND SOME MECHANICAL UPGRADES TO THE HVAC SYSTEM. WE PUT IN ADDITIONAL HVAC IMPROVEMENTS ON THE VEHICLE DRIVES AND BOILER, ET CETERA. WE ALSO PUT ON A NEW ROOF AND DID SOME OTHER BUILDING ENVELOPE UPGRADES AND DONE SOME WATER CONSERVATION UPGRADES. >> IS THAT BEING TRACKED? >> I WILL GET TO THAT. YOU ARE 12 STEPS AHEAD OF ME. I'M ANSWERING OTHER QUESTIONS. THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS $1.8 MILLION. IT'S EXPECTED TO SAVE $2 MILLION WHICH IS A 30% EDUCTION IN ENERGY USAGE IN THAT BUILDING. OVER THE TERM, AND THE TERM VARIES AND THE THE ROOF AND BOILER IS ABOUT 30 YEARS AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A MILLION KILOWATTS PER OUR PER YEAR OF SAVINGS. >> YES, SIR. >> QUESTION. THE 30% ENERGY REDUCTION IS GREAT BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE WE ACHIEVING THAT? IS IT BY BUYING NEW EQUIPMENT THAT TECHNOLOGICALLY WAS NOT AVAILABLE WHEN WE PURCHASED THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT OR E DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY BACK THEN? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT. BUT DEFINITELY IT'S NEWER TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT THAT IS MORE ENERGY-EFFICIENT AND IT'S BETTER CONTROLS AND BETTER OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTROL ZONING AND TIMEFRAMES THAT THE EQUIPMENT TURNS ON AND OFF. [00:45:03] THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. COMBINATION. >> I WOULD ADD, A LOT -- I THINK AND MR. COONS MIGHT GIVE MORE DETAILS. WE EXPECT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE SAVINGS THROUGH THE LIGHTING RETRO FITS, THE L.E.D.S. >> CORRECT. >> HYPOTHETICALLY, COULD WE ACHIEVE A 40% RIGHT NOW AND IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF COST-BENEFIT? >> COULD WE ACHIEVE SAY 40%? YEAH. I THINK THAT'S THE CASE AS FAR AS -- I MEAN ERIC AND HIS STAFF DID A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THIS IS THE THIRD HIGHEST SAVINGS WE HAD BASED ON THE COST-BENEFIT RATIO. >> SECOND BUILDING THAT WE'VE STARTED WORK ON AND ARE NEARLY COMPLETE WITH ARE COMPLETE IS THE GRISWOLD CENTER. WE DID L.E.D. LIGHTING UPGRADES. SOME HVAC UPGRADES. WE DIDN'T EPLACE THE SYSTEM BUT WE ADDED CONTROLS AND OTHER UPGRADES TO THE SYSTEM. WE PLAN TO DO WORK ON THE WINDOWS AND DOORS AND WE WILL SEAL THE BUILDING UP. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THOSE DOORS. >> I HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT YET BUT WE INTEND TO. IT IS IN THE C.I.P. AND WE DID WATER CONSERVATION UPGRADES THERE AS WELL. IT WAS A PRETTY INEXPENSIVE PROJECT. $130,000. EXPECTED TO SAVE $127,000. AND AGAIN THE LIFE EXPECT ANTSY VARIES WITH THE TIME OF EQUIPMENT IN THE BUILDING. THE KILOWATT HOUR PER YEAR SAVINGS THERE IS 50,000. THE FIRE STATION. THIS WORK WAS NOT NECESSARILY A ENERGY SAVINGS PROJECT. IT WAS MAKE UP AIR UNIT UPGRADE WE THOUGHT WAS CRITICAL FOR THE SAFETY AND HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. THERE'S NO ENERGY SAFE BECOMES THAT. SAVINGS WITH THAT. >> IT CHANGES THE AIR AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PRESSURE SITUATION IN THE BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARTICULARITIES IS NOT THERE AND THE FIREMEN AND WOMEN AREN'T BREATHING THAT. SO THAT WAS THE PHASE 2 WORK THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETE. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THE C.I.P. FOR THE COMING YEAR, PHASE 2, THAT WILL HIT EVERY ONE OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THE FIRE STAT STATION TO ENCOUNR THE COST SAVINGS AND ENERGY SAVINGS. I HAVE IT SUMMARIZED HERE AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. BUT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW WE'RE NOT IGNORING ANYBODY WE'RE SPENDING MONEY AT EVERY BUILDING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO INCLUDE THE STREET LIGHTS IN THIS PROGRAM. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALL METERED SO WE COULDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE SAVINGS FOR THE GUARANTEED PAY BACK. HOWEVER, MR. TENANT AND OUR STAFF AT SERVICE AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAVE ON HE STREET A BID PROJECT TO RETRO FIT ABOUT 50 DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE CAN SQUEEZE INTO THE BUDGET OF THOSE STREET LIGHTS TO L.E.D. AND WE WILL REPLACE THE GLOBES THAT ARE IN POOR SHAPE. SAVINGS ON THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY $87,000, ABOUT 4,000-KILOWATT TOHOURS PER YEAR AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS ABOUT 12 YEARS. >> WILL THE STYLE OF THE GLOBES BE THE SAME AS EXISTING? >> OUR SPECKS INDICATE WE WANT THEM TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME. THEY MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME EQUIPMENT BUT THEY'LL LOOK THE SAME. THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER RADIANT DISTRIBUTION AS WELL. THE COLOR WILL BE A GOLD AND WHITE AND AS SIMILAR AS THE EXISTING COLOR. IT'S HARD TO EXACTLY MATCH THE COLORS. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MATCH THAT AS WELL. WE THINK THAT BID IS DUE THIS WEEK. WE'LL HAVE THAT IN SOON AND HOPE TO GET THAT DONE THIS YEAR. SO, IN SUMMARY, THE COST, ALL TOLD FOR ALL OF THIS WORK, PHASE 1, PHASE 2 AND THE STREET LIGHTS WILL BE $3.1 MILLION. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER SAY BIG CHUNK OF THAT. THE ESTIMATING SUMMARY IS HERE AS WELL. IT'S $3.1 MILLION IRONICALLY BUT THERE'S COSTS INCLUDED HERE THERE ARE OVER $900,000 THAT WILL RING THAT TOTAL SAVINGS TO ABOUT $4 MILLION. [00:50:01] AND IT WILL SAVE 1.7 MILLION-KILOWATT HOUR PER YEAR IN ENERGY USAGE AS WELL AND I DID INCLUDE THE PERCENT ENERGY REDUCTION AT EACH BUILDING AND THE COT UM COLUMN TO THE RIGHT. THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS HIGH. THE BUILDING I WORK IN IS THE HIGHEST AND THE BEST COST TO BENEFIT RATIO THERE BECAUSE IT'S A INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHERS. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL PRETTY GOOD. IT'S WORTH WHILE SEEING THOSE ACCOMPLISHED AT THOSE BUILDINGS. THERE'S A ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS A GREEGREENHOUSE G GAS EQUIVALENCY CALCULATOR. KRISTA AND I RAN THROUGH THESE CALCULATION AND CHERRY PICKED SOME DIFFERENT THINGS COULD COMPARE AGAINST. WITH PHASE 1 OF THE ENERGY CONTROL MEASURES, THE E.C. M.S WITH THE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2, THAT SAVEDS WOULD EQUATE TO 256 VEHICLES DRIVEN FOR A YEAR OR 210 HOMES' ELECTRIC USED FOR ONE YEAR OR ABOUT 20,000 TREE SEEDLINGS GROWN FOR 10 YEARS FROM A CARBON SEQUESTERED APPROACH. AS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, WE DECIDED HOW MUCH ENERGY SAVINGS ARE WE ENCOUNTERING WITH OTHER ENERGY PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE EMBARKING UPON AND THE PURCHASE OF THE CERTIFIED ENERGY SEE CERTIFICATES WILL SAVE $4.3 MILLION A YEAR AND THE PROGRAM IS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN ABOUT 50 MILLION SO THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS AND THEY RESULT IN BIG NUMBERS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EQUIVALENCY. 650 VEHICLES AND 367 HOMES AND 50,000 TREE SEEDLINGS AND IT'S PRETTY BIG STUFF AND THE ELECTRIC AND AND 4271 HOMES AND CLOSE TO 600,000 TREE SEEDLINGS. AGAIN BIG NUMBERS. I SEEM THESE CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT. I CAN'T VOUCH FOR THEM. WHEN YOU TOTAL THEM UP, YOU HAVE 5,640,962-KILOWATT HOURS A YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE AN EQUIVALENT AS FAR AS ENERGY SAVINGS. 56,471,000. SO, QUESTION, I'M SURE YOU HAVE IN YOUR MIND AND IT WAS ALREADY BROUGHT IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRACK THESE? WE HAVE ENGAGE IN A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY CALLED JADE TRACK WITH A.B.M. AND WITH MORSI TO TRACK OUR DATA. IT WAS FIRST BENCH MARKED AND THEN TRACKED. WE HAVEN'T PUT IT INTO PLACE YET BUT IT WILL BE PUT INTO PLACE SOON. MR. COONS GAVE ME THIS DATA THAT WAS TAKEN TODAY. THEY'RE TRACKING IT BUT WE'RE NOT YET USING IT IN DETAIL BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE ABILITY IT HAS TO TRACK THE CYCLES OF ENERGY USAGE VERTIME AND IT DOES MULTIPLE THINGS AND IT ALLOWS US TO COMPARE IT TO THE BEN MARKING AND ALLOWS US TO IMPROVE FURTHER AS WE SEE WHERE AREAS FLUCTUATE AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF LIGHTS WERE LEFT ON OR WE HAD THE HEAT TOO HIGH OR AIR-CONDITIONING TOO LOW AND WE SAW SPIKES IN OUR ELECTRIC USAGE. AND THIS WILL PROVIDE ENERGY-EFFICIENT MONITORING SOFTWARE. IT'S NOT JUST OUR SCIENTIFIC DATA MONITORING USE. IT AN GIVE US A REAL TIME MONITORING EFFORT WHERE WE INTEND TO STALL -- HAS THAT TV BEEN INSTALLED? >> IT'S PURCHASED BUT NOT INSTALLED. >> WE HAVE A TV WAITING AND -- >> WHO IS THE USER HAS CONTROL. >> THE REASON WE HAVE IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER S FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. ANY OF US THAT ARE INVOLVED AS A PROGRAM AND COMPETERS AND TRACK IT BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL GO TO THE EFFORT OF INSTALLING A MONITOR IN EACH BUILDING. >> EVERYONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A BUILDING WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT. >> IT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT WILL ALLOW TO YOU DO CONTROL. NOT THE JADE TRACK SOFTWARE BUT THE OTHER SOFTWARE WITH THE [00:55:03] SYSTEMS. SO THIS DASHBOARD WILL BE A STAFF TOOL, AS YOU MENTIONED. AS WELL AS USED FOR GENERAL PUBLIC TO EDUCATE AND UNDERSTAND TO CONTRIBUTE TO AND BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES AND ONE WOULD E INSTALLED IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER ENTRY WAY. OUR FINAL THOUGHTS, THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE CITY WIDE DEVELOP AND IT TOUCHES ALL NINE OF OUR BUILDINGS AND IT'S A LONG-TERM BUILDING AND SYSTEMS INFRASTRUCTURE OPERATIONS TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO DO PROACTIVE INFORMATION AND MAINTENANCE EFFORT THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE IN THE PAST FOR WHATEVER REASON. IT PROVIDES US COST REDUCTIONS, FINANCIAL SAVINGS AND IMPROVES OUR SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES AND IT POSITIONS US WHERE WE WANT TO BE TO BE A SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT JUST WORDS, THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING S I PRESENT IT TO YOU IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR. THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WELL INTO THIS PROGRAM. THEY'RE SEEING THESE SAVINGS. THEY'RE GETTING THEIR GUARANTEED SAVINGS. THEY'RE MAKING THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND WE'RE JOINING THAT CROWD AND HAPPY TO DO SO. GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THE SAVINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT KIND OF LANGUAGE DO WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT IF WE DON'T SEE THE SAVINGS TA WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE? >> MR. COONS WILL WRITE US A CHECK FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN COST AND THE SAVINGS AND THAT IS IN THE CONTRACT. I BELIEVE IT'S EVALUATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? SCOTT S. THAT CORRECT? TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE WE ENCOUNTER IT. WE NEED TO GET IT BUTTONED UP SO WE MEASURE AGAINST THE BENCHMARKS. >> I M EXCITED THAT WE'RE DOING THIS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LIFE CYCLE FOR EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, EVERY PIECE OF BUILDING THAT WE HAVE. WE REPLACE ROOFS AND WINDOWS AND H.V.C. AND I'M EXCITED WE'RE DOING IT SMARTER AND TRACKING THIS STUFF AND GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE DATA SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL THEIR OWN BUILDING. IT'S UPER EXCITING. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. >> I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE AND I AM COULD COMPLIMENT A.B.M. AND ITS AGE AND LIFE CYCLE AND WHEN IT NEEDS REPLACED WHETHER IT'S JUST A THREE RATINGS OF THE CONDITION. IT GIVES US SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST AND IT WAS NEEDED TO STRATEGICALLY AND INTELLIGENTLY MONITOR OUR BUDGETS. >> LIKE THE PROGRAM, EVERYBODY IS LOOKING GOOD. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I'M THINKING 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN SOME OF THE LIFE CYCLING SHORE UP AND WE NEED TO REPLACE SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT, POLITICAL WINDS CHANGE AND THE PROGRAM ITSELF MIGHT DISAPPEAR AND THE TECHNOLOGIES MIGHT NOT ADVANCE ENOUGH WHERE WE SEE SAVINGS ON FUTURE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS. THIS, I THINK, IS MORE BUDGET PHILOSOPHY, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET PHILOSOPHY FOR PART OF OUR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS HERE TONIGHT AND IN THE FUTURE. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN THINK AHEAD TO THE NEXT ROUND 20 YEARS FROM NOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THIS MONEY OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS EXACTLY. SO WE'RE NOT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THE NEXT CYCLE COMES UP? >> THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY. IT'S DIFFICULT HEN THE LIFE CYCLES ARE SIMILAR. WE NOW HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHEN TO EXPECT THESE REPLACEMENTS THAT NEED -- THERE'S ALWAYS SURPRISES. SOMETHING WILL FAIL BEFORE IT IS SUPPOSED TO. MANY OF IT WILL LAST LONGER. WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT TO MAINTAIN THESE THINGS OVERTIME. WE'LL KEEP CLOSE EYE ON THEM AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH FLEET AND DEAL WITH A REPLACEMENT CYCLE DATA BASE THAT MANAGES IN A SMART WAY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY WHEN WE CAN DO REPLACEMENTS AND ALSO UPGRADE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CONTINUE TO SAVE ENERGY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. PEOPLE ASK ME PERSONALLY WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY. TO SEE IT IN ACTION AND SEE THE ACTUAL POTENTIAL SAVINGS IS INCREDIBLE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT EFFORT AND FOR MAKING IT A PRIORITY. I KNOW WE'VE DONE SO MANY THINGS AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO COMPILE THEM AND HAVE EVERYTHING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW THIS AS WE MOVE ORWARD. GREAT JOB. >> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR [01:00:01] MAKING IT A PRIORITY. IT'S HELPED US TO BE ABLE TO DO IT BUT I WILL MENTION WORE PART OF SUSTAINABILITY 2050 AND THAT DOES CHART AND TRACK ALL OF THE ENERGY CONSERVATION AND OTHER SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES THAT WE'RE TAKING AND I HOPE TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU AS WELL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> I WOULD JUST ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS. IT'S NOT EFFORT A STAFF PRESENTATION AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS MAKES ME FEEL LIKE APPLAUDING BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BREATHTAKING. IT'S A GREAT STUFF. IT'S NICE WORK. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL ON GOING PROJECT AND STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT THE FUTURE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. [5.A.III. 2020 Operating Budget & 2020-2024 Capital Improvements Program] >> THANK YOU. BACK TO THE BUDGET. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND COMMENTS ABOUT OUR STAFF'S WORK. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE BEGAN THE CUSTOM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TOUCHING BASE WITH YOU IN JULY. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S CHARTER REQUIRES THAT 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS TO SUBMIT A BUDGET FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. WE OBVIOUSLY SUBMIT IT FAR BEFORE THE 60-DAY END OF THE YEAR USUALLY AROUND THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER. WE BEGIN THAT PROCESS OF TRYING TO CONSTRUCT THE BUDGET IN THE C.I.P., CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IN LATE JULY. HEAVY DUTY STAFF WORK IN AUGUST AND DECEMBER TO DEVELOP THE BUDGET THAT YOU SEE AS MY RECOMMENDATION. IT'S BECOME IMPORTANT FOR US TO TOUCH BASE BEFORE WE START THAT PROCESS. WE WANT TO DO THIS SO THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS WE BEGIN THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WE WANT TO RECORRECT BRIEFLY WITH THE PRIORITIES YOU EXPRESSED TO US AT THE BEGIN OF THE YEAR WITH THE RETREAT PROCESS AND GET INPUT IF YOU HAVE ANY ODIFICATIONS, CHANGES. BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AT THIS EARLY POINT IN THE PROCESS. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO DO THAT. COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS, IF I CAN GET THE SYSTEM TO WORK HERE. YOU APPROVED A WHOLE VARIETY OF IMPORTANT POLICY UPDATES THIS PAST YEAR. THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO ADVANCE BEST PRACTICES IN FINANCIAL ANAGEMENT. SO THAT INCLUDED THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE POLICY IN DECEMBER UPDATING INVESTMENT POLICY, A NEW DEBT POLICY AND THEN WE ROLLED OUT PURCHASING CARDS THIS YEAR. I ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT STAFF. WE COMPLETED, IN JUNE, FOR SUBMISSION, THE FIRST COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. WE EXPECT THAT WE'LL RECEIVE THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING. THEY ARE ALSO WORKING ON A NEW ACRONYM FOR YOU CALLED A PAFR. A POPULAR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. IN ONE OF THE -- WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE TO US. HOW CAN WE COMMUNICATE AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CITY'S BUDGET, ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL STATUS AND ABOUT IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW OUR TAX RESOURCES ARE USED TO FUND CITY SERVICES. W. WELL, THE BEST PRACTICE OF DG THAT IS A PAFR, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT BECAUSE HE SCHOOL SENDS ONE TO EVERY HOME TO HELP DESCRIBE THEIR FUNDING AND WE'RE WORKING ON ONE FOR THE CITY'S FINANCES. AND LASTLY AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WE'VE COMPLETED THE 2018 AUDIT AND MR. FAUST, THIS IS WORTH CLAPPING ABOUT IN ADDITION TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY. IT'S UNMODIFIED WITH NO COMMENT. THE STATE AUDITOR. >> IT'S AN I.P.A. THEY SOURCED IT OUT FROM AN I I.P.A. (INAUDIBLE). >> I NEVER HEARD OF ONE WITH NO [01:05:02] COMMENT. >> IT'S NOT UNCOMMON BUT IT'S NOTEWORTHY NONE THE LESS. WE'LL ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THE AUDITOR STATE AWARD FOR DISTINCT AS A RESULT OF THAT THIS YEAR. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: EXCELL. >> PUT IT WITH THE REST OF THEM THAT YOU HAVE. >> I'M GOING TO START A WALL. [LAUGHTER] >> NICE. >> I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. BARTER WHO WILL HIGHLIGHT THE FINANCIAL TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING UNTIL THE UPCOMING YEAR. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I WANTED TO SPEND THE FIRST TWO OR THREE SLIDES TALKING ABOUT ESTIMATES TO ACTUAL IN TERMS OF ESTIMATED REVENUE PROJECTION AND ACTUAL REVENUE THAT COMES IN. YOU WILL SEE IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE AVERAGED 1.2 TO 2% ACTUAL REVENUE RECEIVED OVER ESTIMATES THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION WE'RE MAKING A ACCURATE ESTIMATES. THE LAST TIME THAT ESTIMATES WERE OVER ESTIMATED AS 2010. SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN WHICH IS A GOOD THING. WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR HERE IS TO BE AS CLOSE TO ZERO WITHOUT GOING BELOW AS POSSIBLE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABOUT 2% OVER -- MOLLY DID A GOOD JOB THERE IN 2015 AND 2016. SHE WAS WITHIN $50,000 ON 26 MILLION COLLECTED. SO THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. I WANTED TO TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT HE IMPORTANCE OF ESTIMATES. YOU WILL SEE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN 2009 AND 2010 IS WHEN REVENUE CAME IN BELOW WHAT WE ESTIMATED. YOU WILL SEE THAT WE LOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUND BALANCE SO IF WE OVER ESTIMATE AND REVENUE COMES IN UNDERESTIMATES, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO SPEND DOWN UNPLANNED OUR FUND BALANCE. THE OPPOSITE OF THAT IS THAT WE GROW THE FUND BALANCE IF REVENUE ESTIMATES EXCEED ACTUAL. SO FOR THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ASSUMPTIONS WE'RE WORKING WITH. THIS IS EARLY IN THE PROCESS. FOR JULY AS WE TART TO LAN OUT THE 2020 BUDGET, INEX TAX PROJECTIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY FOREMOST SO FOR 2019 WE WILL ASSUME THE INCOME TAX REVENUE STAYS IN LINE WITH CURRENT PROJECTIONS AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WITHIN 1.85% AND HOPEFULLY THAT HOLDS TRUE. INCOME TAX REVENUE FAR EXCEEDS MY ESTIMATE, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT AS WELL. FOR 2020, VERY EARLY AGAIN, THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. LOOKING AT 1.4% GROWTH OVER THE 2018 ESTIMATE. JUST TO IVE YOU ANOTHER SENSE OF WHAT THAT MEANS, TO GROW THE INCOME TAX REVENUE BY THAT 1.54%, WE WOULD NEED $16 MILLION IN PAYROLL TO GENERATE THAT GROWTH. IT'S ABOUT $400,000 THAT THE 2 AND A HALF TAX RATE AT $16 MILLION. IN 2021, I HAVE INCREASED THE ESTIMATE TO 3%. THAT ESTIMATES THE ANTHEM BUILDING COME BACK ONLINE SO THAT'S 3% IN 2020 AND 2% FROM 222-2224. THIS IS A BAR GRAPH THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THAT AND SO YOU CAN SEE INCOME TAX REVENUES ANTICIPATED TO GROW IN 2018 IT GENERATED $300,000 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THEY'RE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE'RE ANTICIPATING TWO AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE BETWEEN 2020 AND 2024. THERE'S AN UPDATE IN 2020. THAT MIGHT CAUSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND PARKS AND REC REVENUE, LOOKING AT 3.27% INCREASE IN 2019, THEY'RE EXCEEDING THAT BY $100,000 RIGHT NOW ND WO AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE FROM 2020 TO 2024. WHEN WE PUT ALL OF IT TOGETHER, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 1.86% REVENUE GROWTH FROM 2020 TO 2024. FROM 2014-2018, WE AVERAGED 1.1 9% OF REVENUE GROWTH AND THAT'S A LITTLE LOW PRIMARILY BECAUSE IN 2014, THE INCOME TAX WAS SHIFTED 6.4% BACK TO THE C.I.P. FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT CREATES A REVENUE DROP. [01:10:03] I WANTED TO TOUCH FOR A MINUTE ON GAS-TAX. THE STATE LEGISLATURE APPROVED AN INCREASE IN THE GAS-TAX THAT WENT INTO EFFECT THIS MONTH. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IS THAT WE ANTICIPATE SEEING AN ADDICTIONAL $367,000 BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF JUNE OF 2020. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS HOW WE ALLOCATE THAT INCREASED REVENUE BETWEEN OPERATING CAPITAL EX TENSES SO WHETHER WE OFFSET THAT TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE STATE HIGHWAY AND THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND OR WHETHER WE UTILIZE THOSE ADDICTIONAL DOLLARS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. >> THE 2020 COLUMN OF THE 2019 BUDGET DOCUMENT. SOME DEFIGURES THERE THAT IT'S AN 8% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS AND THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE GONE FI TO 8.6% SO WE UTILIZED 8 FOR 2020. AS WHICH GET MORE INFORMATION OVER THE UPCOMING MONTHS WE'LL HAVE MORE DEFINITIVE IDEA OF WHAT THAT INCREASE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. WE'RE ALSO UTILIZING IN 2020 A 3% WAGE INCREASE WHICH IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED ALREADY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, IT'S JUST A STARTING POINT. SO THIS KIND OF PUTS IT ALL TOGETHER. THIS IS A VERY INFORMATIVE SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE HERE IN 2011-2014 IS WHERE THE FUND BALANCE WAS REALLY STARTED TO BE BUILT. BACK IN 2010, THE FUND BALANCE WAS AS LOW AS $1.6 MILLION. 2011 WE -- STARTING IN 2009, 2011 IS THE FIRST FULL YEAR OF THE INCOME TAX RATE INCREASE TO TWO AND A HALF PERCENT. AND STILL YOU CAN SEE HOW THE GREEN BARS WAY ABOVE THE BLUE BAR IS A LARGE PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE WE HAVE TODAY. 2014, THE ALLOCATION REVERTED BACK TO THE SPLIT. AS WE MOVE OUT IN A FEW YEARS, YOU WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT JUMP 7 IN 2019. AS WE MOVE PARKS AND REC REVOLVING FUND EXPENDITURES, WE ALSO INCORPORATED SOME ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES IN 2019 AND WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR EXPENSES APPROPRIATIONS MADE IN 2018 BUT NOT SPENT IN 2018. THEY ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN 2019. >> IT LOOSE LIKE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE AND WE ACCUMULATED OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE, THE MAJORITY OF IT. >> CORRECT. SO MOVING OUT FROM 2019 TO 2023, YOU CAN SEE WE START TO CROSS PATHS HERE. EXPENSES EXCEED REVENUE. AGAIN, BASED UPON ALL OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT I MADE OVER THE PAST FEW SLIDES, THE 3% OR 8%, SO IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT AS WE WORKED TO DEVELOP THIS BUDGET. >> ABOUT WHAT KIND OF FUND BALANCE DOES IT GIVE US AS WE GO OUT TOWARDS 2023? >> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. SO HERE AGAIN YOU CAN SEE 2010, VERY, VERY LOW FUND BALANCE AT 1.6 MILLION. WE BUILT THAT UP. WE ENDED 2018 AT 49% OF AN UNENCUMBERED BALANCE. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE CURRENT TRENDS, BY 2024, WE FALL SLIGHTLY BELOW THE 35% ADOPTED SAFE ZONE. WE NEED TO BRING THAT AMOUNT UP. >> WAS THE GRAY AREA THE SAFE ZONE? >> YES. AS WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET, WE WILL MAINTAIN CURRENT CITY SERVICES AND LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THE CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT YOU EXPRESSED DURING THE RETREAT. WHETHER IT'S WILSON BRIDGE ROAD. ADDITIONAL DEMANDS IN THE OPERATING FUND, IN 2019 WE RECEIVED ABOUT $708,000 IN DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET REQUESTS OF WHICH WE ADDED 26% OR ABOUT 185,000 INTO THE BUDGET. I PUT THIS IN HERE JUST TO EXPRESS THAT I ANTICIPATE SEEING A LOT OF THOSE MAYBE COMING BACK. HISTORICALLY OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS WE HELD DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS PRETTY FLAT TO AINTAIN A BALANCED BUDGET SO SHORT OF HEALTH INSURANCE AND SALARY [01:15:02] INCREASES, I ANTICIPATE EEING SOME OF THOSE COMING BACK AGAIN FOR THE 2020 BUDGET. WE'LL NEED A RETURN TO NORMAL LEVELS OF FUNDING IN THE POLICE PENSION FUND. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE UTILIZE FUND BALANCED THAT BUILT UP IN THE POLICE PENSION FUND AS WE OFFSET ANTICIPATED DECLINING REVENUES FROM THE LOSS OF THE ANTHEM BUILDING. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHERE ARE WE GETTING MONEY FROM? >> SO THE POLICE PENSION IS REQUIRED TO BE SPENT OUT OF A SEPARATE FUND. IT'S FUND NUMBER 212. IT'S FUNDED PARTIALLY WITH PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AND THEN ALMOST THE ENTIRE REST IS FROM A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAD BUILT UP SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCED THERE SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE FUND BALANCE TO PAY THE PENSIONS WITHOUT TRANSFERRING $600,000 INTO THAT FUND. WE DROPPED THAT TO $250 AND THE PAST TWO YEARS S WE'LL NEED TO RETURN THAT LEVEL OF FUNDING IN 2020. >> AT LEAST TO BALANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FULLY FUND THE POLICE PENSION? >> CORRECT. WE WILL NOT HAVE THE REVENUE FROM THE REVOLVING FUND. WE HAVE DISCUSSED, DURING THE LAST BUDGET PROCESS, WE ARE SHIFTED EXTENSIONS AND REVENUE IN THE PARKS AND REC REVOLVING FUND INTO THE GENERAL FUND THAT CREATED A ONE-TIME TRANSFER THAT WILL BE $400,000 AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US IN 2020. WE WILL HAVE COMMUNICATION CENTER TRANSITION COSTS AND WE HAVE ALREADY HERD FROM TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE SPECIAL GROUP FUNDING. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT N FULL AS WE IN THE OPERATING. >> WE'RE GETTING INTO THE CAPITAL DISCUSSION HERE. THIS TALKS ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE EARLY IMPROVEMENTS PLAN THIS YEAR. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT IS ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO THE CURRENT FIVE YEAR PLAN SO THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED AND WITH THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED C.I.P. AND THESE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE EXPECTED WE'LL NEED TO CONSIDER TO FIND WAYS TO INCORPORATE INTO THE C.I.P. THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS HERE THAT ARE ON THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES LIST FROM THE RETREAT SO THOSE ARE ITEMS LIKE WILSON BRIDGE ROADS THAT WAS YOUR TOP PRIORITY THAW DENTIFIED AT THE RETREAT SO WE LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN INVEST IN THAT CORRIDOR TO MAINTAIN AND WE MIGHT BE BE USE TIFF FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THAT CORRIDOR AND WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT MCCORD PARK, ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES. THAT IS IN THE C.I.P. BUT IT'S NOT FULLY FUNDED SO WE NEED TO FIND FINDING ELSEWHERE OR WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MORE FULLY FUND THE ITEMS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR CCORD PARK. IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY TO LOOK TO INVEST IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THERE'S ALREADY SOME FUNDING IN THE C.I.P. AND WE BELIEVE THERE'S AN INTEREST IN INCREASING THAT FUNDING IF WE CAN DO SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF STUDIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PARKS' MASTER PLAN OBVIOUSLY I MENTIONED THE BIKE AND PED PLAN. THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN THAT CORRIDOR SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE FINAL SANITARY SEWER SHED STUDIES AND WE HAVE OUR STUDY OF WATER LINES IN THE ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE MIGHT NEED TO INVEST IN WATER LINES. WE HAVE THE EVALUATION OF RUSH RUN. WE LOOK TO INCORPORATE THOSE ITEMS AND WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THEIR PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE OUTDOOR AUDITORIUM POOLS AT THEIR FACILITY AND WE ARE STILL YET I THINK ANTICIPATING THAT THEY WILL HAVE A REQUEST OF THIS CITY FOR FUNDING WHAT THAT LEVEL WILL BE, WE DON'T YET KNOW. THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS OUT THERE FOR PRESSURE OR DEMANDS ON THE CAPITAL SIDE AND CITY BUILDINGS IS LISTED FIRST HERE. WE'VE HAD SOME UNANTICIPATED ISSUES ARISE ITH CITY BUILDINGS THIS YEAR THAT HAVE REQUIRED US A SHIFT FUNDING FROM PROJECTS PLANNED FROM THE C.I.P. TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS WE WERE FACING SO IT WILL PUT PRESSURE ON OUR CITY BUILDING FOR ITEMS PLANNED THIS YEAR WILL BE PUSHED INTO FUTURE YEARS. >> THESE ARE ITEMS THAT AREN'T IN THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN BUT WE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PRIORITIZING THEM AND WE HAVE TO [01:20:01] TTHEN FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE THE MONEY. IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND BEING FULLY INFORMED ABOUT THE BUDGET. IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? >> EXACTLY. (INAUDIBLE). REPORT BACK ON THE IMPLEMENTATION AND I THINK THAT IS THE WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK AND I THINK WE HAVE IT RIGHT. I AM REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF IT. >> WE'LL NOTE COUNCIL MEMBER DORTHY, SOME OF THESE HAVE SOME FUNDING AND THEY'RE ON THIS LIST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN EXPRESS INTEREST OR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THOSE AREAS. >> SINCE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE INCLUDED A SLIDE HERE ON FUND BALANCE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. THIS CAN BE TRICKY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT FUND BALANCE AS A SNAPSHOT BECAUSE THE FUNDS GO UP AND DOWN. IF WE'VE ISSUED TEMPORARY NOTES AND WE SEED THAT FUNDING BUT WE'RE PUTTING THEM TOWARDS PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT OVER A YEAR OR TWO OR BONDS WHERE WE'RE DOING THAT FOR REIMBURSING US FOR EXPENSES IN A PRIOR YEAR, YOU CAN SEE THESE JUMPS UP AND DOWN. WE HAVE REVENUE THAT COME IN AND WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THE EXPENDITURES YET OR WE'VE PAID OUT ON PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR WHETHER IT'S FEDERAL, STATE OR BONDS, TEMPORARY NOTES. SO THIS GETS CHALLENGING OF DRAWING A SNAPSHOT IN TIMES FOR THE C.I.P. FUND BALANCE. THE CURRENT ADOPTED C.I.P. FUND BALANCE, THE TARGET THAT WE'VE WORKED FOR IN RECENT YEARS IN THE C.I.P. FUND, WHEN WE ADOPT THE PLAN, IS TO HAVE 100% FUND BALANCE TO COVER THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR BECAUSE REVENUE CAN FLOW IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SO IT'S A CASH FLOW MANAGEMENT PROVISION IN OUR C.I.P., HOWEVER, THE CURRENT ADOPTED C.I.P. DID NOT ACHIEVE THAT IN ANY YEAR OF THE FIVE YEARS WE WERE BETWEEN 80% AND 90% DEPENDING ON THE YEAR. WE KNOW WE HAVEN'T BEEN HITTING THAT TARGET IN THE C.I.P. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT. >> WE WANT TO WRAP-UP TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO UNDERTAKE THIS FALL. THAT WILL INCLUDE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PAST YEARS IS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEPARTMENTS TO PRESENT THEIR PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET TO YOU. REALLY, IT'S THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL BUT WE WILL ASK THE MAJOR FUNDING OUTSIDE EVENT TEASE THAT WE FUND. WHEN I SAY MAJOR THOSE THAT RECEIVE $50,000 OR MORE. TO COME AND PRESENT THEIR PLANS FOR THE PUBLIC DOLLARS. WE'RE TARGETING EARLY OCTOBER TO DISTRIBUTE THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND C.I.P. GO OVER THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST SO THAT WILL BE A DEEPER DIVE AND AN UPDATE TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED THIS EVENING. SPENDING NOVEMBER REALLY DIVING INTO THE DEPARTMENTAL AND SPECIAL GROUP BUDGETS. AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE REQUEST YOU IDENTIFY ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED. STAND READY TO DISCUSS THIS PRESENTATION. >> MR. SMITH. >> THIS GOES BACK TO MY TWO COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THE TIFF FUNDS. YOU USED THE WORD MONEY LAUNDERING AND I WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR NECESSARILY. >> PUT IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND. >> IT'S A CREATIVE WAY, PERHAPS, FOR US TO GAIN SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE OTHERWISE REALIZED. SAME GOES FOR THE A.B.M. CONSULTANTS AND ENERGY SAVINGS WE HAVE THERE. ARE THOSE FUNDS BEING TRANSFERRED INTO SOME, I GUESS THIS GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. ARE WE KEEPING BACK SOME OF THOSE SAVED DOLLARS FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS? >> YEAH, SO, WE CREATED A NUMBER [01:25:02] OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IN RECENT YEARS AND SOME HAVE OBLIGATIONS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. LIKE THE WORTHINGTON GATEWAY ONE, FOR THE HOL HOLIDAY INN ONE THAT WILL REIMBURSE FOR A NUMBER OF PROJECTS. THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT WE'VE ESSENTIALLY CREATED IN ORDER TO COLLECT TIFF FUNDS THAT WE CAN, IN THE FUTURE, DESIGNATE FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, THE MOST NOTABLE OF THOSE IS THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AREA WHERE WE CREATED THE HEIGHTS TAX INCREMENT FINANCIAL DISTRICT. NONE OF THOSE DOLLARS CREATED FOR THAT OR THEY COME AS A RESULT OF THAT TIFF WILL REIMBURSE SO THOSE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO INVEST IN THE VICINITY OF THE HEIGHTS PROJECT IN THE WEST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AREA. RIGHT NOW, WE'VE DISCUSS INSIDE BRIEFLY AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION CAREFULLY AT WEST WILSON BRIDGE ROADWORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES AND IN THAT AREA TO TALK ABOUT AND STUDY THAT AND THAT IS A POTENTIAL ELIGIBLE EXPENSE AS WELL S ANY OF THE STREET SCAPING AND BIKE PED IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA. THAT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE. WE'LL LOCK AT THE TIFF DOLLARS FOR THE LYNN WORTH PLAZA AND THE DOWNTOWN TIFF FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PLACE A CASE TO SUPPORT 161 OR IN DOWNTOWN TO SUPPORT IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA. YOU ARE RIGHT, WE'RE AT THE JUNCTIONTURE WHERE AT LEAST IN ONE OF THESE TIFFS THAT THE MONEY PRODUCED IS ENOUGH THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW IT SUPPLEMENTS OUR C.I.P. TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF YOUR GOALS. IN 2020 YOU HAVE IT FLAT. THAT SURPRISES ME. >> WELL, IT'S 2%. >> 26,065,000 IN 2018 AND 26,400,000 IN 2020. WHERE DO YOU HAVE THE OLD ANTHEM BUILDING COMING BACK ONLINE? >> I BELIEVE IT'S 2021 WHEN I ANTICIPATED 3% GROWTH. >> THE SECOND QUESTION S THE EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS. THE 8% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS, WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO IN ACTUAL DOLLARS, PLEASE? >> I'VE GOT THAT BUT IT'S BACK IN MY OFFICE. I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU. >> AND IF YOU COULD ALSO END ME INFORMATION ON THE 3% WAGE INCREASE. >> WE HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN BY EVERY HALF PERCENT. WHAT IT EQUALS TO. >> BUT THAT IS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR MIND. >> I WOULD KNOW IF YOU ASKED ME IN NOVEMBER. >> HELPFUL IF THERE WERE DOLLARS ASSIGNED TO THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD BE NTERESTING TO ME AND IT'S ARD TO EVALUATE WHEN YOU JUST SAY 3% WHAT THAT REALLY TRANSLATES INTO IN TERMS OF IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. >> 3% WAGE IMPACTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE IT IMPACTS YOUR MEDICARE AND WORKERS COMP AND PENSIONS SO IT'S FAR REACHING. LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. WOOWAS IT MARCH WHEN WE GOT AROD TO THAT. >> AND THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK FROM A COUPLE OF OUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY MIGHT LIKE TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT. I WOULD LIKE TO START THAT DISCUSSION MUCH EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO BEFORE THE BUDGET IS COMPLETED. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY? >> YES. >> MAYBE WE START THAT CONVERSATION IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET. MAYBE WE CAN SCHEDULE AT LEAST WHETHER WE WANT TO INCREASE IT AND THE PROCESS WE WANT TO GO THROUGH FOR MAYBE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING IN AUGUST OR IN SEPTEMBER. PLEASE [01:30:32] >> IN AND OF ITSELF. THAT IS DEBATED OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF THE BUDGET. JUST TRYING TO FIND TO BRING IT BACK TO A WAY WE DEBATE IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BUDGET. >> M. GREESON: IT FELT LIKE A AFTER THOUGHT LAST YEAR. LET'S NOT DEBATE IT BEFORE WE HAVE THE OTHER BUDGET CONTEXT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T CARE HOW WE DO IT. ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FUNDED. I THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT -- WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE FUNDING, DO E NEED TO -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION EARLY. >> I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING THE CONVERSATION EARLIER. LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS PRESENTED BY MR. BARTTER, I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO OFF THE CUFF. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WE NEED TO HAVE HE CONVERSATION AND MR. BARTTER'S 40,000-FOOT PERSPECTIVE OF HAT WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION -- IT'S ALSO INCREASE WHERE WE'RE TAKING IT FROM. IT'S A FINITE BUDGET. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO BOGGED DOWN INTO THE DETAILS. DO WE WANT TO INCREASE? IF WE SAY YES, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BUDGET TO COME OUT BEFORE WE DECIDE HOW MUCH. DO WE -- ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THE SAME AND GIVE MORE MONEY OR EXPAND THE POOL? THOSE ARE THE KIND OF POLICY DEBATES I THINK WE CAN HAVE EARLY. DON'T HAVE TO INVOLVE DOLLAR AMOUNT. HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BUDGET FIGURES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN SEPTEMBER? I'M -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T THINK IT'S A NIGHT-LONG CONVERSATION. I THINK IT'S 15 OR 20 MINUTES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: CAN WE PUT IT ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR SETTLEMENT? >> M. GREESON: PART OF THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE? THERE IS A VARIETY OF GROUPS E FUND THAT RANGE IN PURPOSE AND MISSION AND REALLY IF WE'RE TRYING FOR AN INCREASE OR DIFFERENT STRATEGY, WHAT PARTICULAR PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE. WHAT OUTCOMES ARE WE TRYING TO BUY? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TIME FOR US TO REVISIT WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE GRANTS IT COMES DOWN TO A POINT WHERE IS IT ORTH OUR TIME. IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE GUIDANCE ON YOU KNOW, AND ADVOCATE DIFFERENT THINGS REGARDING FEWER GRANTS AT LARGER AMOUNTS. ARE WE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TYPES OF THINGS O FUND. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT MERITS ITS OWN CONVERSATION. CAN WE MAYBE BE IN INTENTIONAL IN SOME OF THE DIRECTION OF THOSE FUNDS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT'S BEEN WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IN THE PAST. MAYBE IT'S TIME TO TAKE LOOK AT THAT ON THE POLICY SIDE, ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING THAT GOAL. YOU GOT IT LAST YEAR, YOU WILL GET IT THIS YEAR. WE HAD NO ROCESS. NOW WE TRY TO INCORPORATE A PROCESS. MAYBE IT'S TIME TO REVIEW IT. I'M LOOKING AT HIGH-LEVEL POLICY. I DON'T WANT DOLLARS AND CENTS YET. I WANT THIS BROUGHT BACK INTO THE BUDGET AS OPPOSED TO HANGING IT OUT UNTIL MARCH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SEPTEMBER COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. I'M SEEING HEADS SHAKE, YES, ON COMMITTEE ON THE WHOLE THIS BEING A TOPIC. THAT WILL HELP US ADDRESS IT IN A TIMELY MANNER. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE NOT TALKING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. >> >> D. FOUST: ADVISE AS FAR AS IF SOMETHING ISN'T THERE. YOU SEEM A LITTLE HESITANT. >> M. GREESON: I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE TO SET THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE -- WE'RE CONSIDERING GIVING IN THE [01:35:03] CONTEXT OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING PRESSURES IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS. LIKE ALL AREAS SHOULD GET, YOU KNOW, A HEALTHY LEVEL OF SCRUTINY AND NOT NECESSARILY BE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A STAND ALONE CONSIDERATION. >> THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, IN ALMOST TO THE SECOND, THAT'S TELLING ME THAT CAN WE COME UP WITH A ETTER PROCESS? >> M. GREESON: SURE. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IN THAT CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO SAY, ARE OUR PRIORITIES WE SET FOUR YEARS AGO AND DOUG, YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS MORE THAN ANYBODY. IS THAT RIGHT? >> IT WOULD BE A KINDNESS TO THOSE GROUPS WE'RE GOING TO ASSIST OR NOT TO KNOW EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHERE WE ARE. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK SO. THEY ARE DOING THEIR BUDGET THE SAME TIME WE ARE. THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET? >> THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT PARTLY IN RESPONSE TO MR. ROBINSON'S QUESTION ABOUT THE 8% ON HEALTHCARE, THAT IS I THINK AN APPROPRIATELY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER, NOT THAT IT'S LOW. IT'S, THE DAYS A POOL AND HOW IT RUNS EFFECTS WHERE YOU LAND. I THINK THE NUMBER WAS SPOT ON. SO AND PROBABLY AT LEAST EFFICIENTLY BUDGETING IF YOU GET LUCKY, MAYBE YOU ARE A POINT OVER WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO LAND BUT THAT WAS A GOOD NUMBER. >> D. SMITH: QUICK REFRESHER. MS. STEWART YOU OPENED THE DOOR ON THE THE BUDGET -- COMMUNITY CENTER, WHEN DOES THAT COME OFF? WAS IT 21? >> THAT MATURES IN 2021. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BUDGET? MR. GREESON? [5.B.I. Financial Report - June 2019] >> M. GREESON: I REALLY DON'T. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IN YOUR PACKET THE JUNE 2019 FINANCIAL REPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. IF NOT, I'LL NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT FOR THE RECORD. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> MOVE TO ACCEPT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN. OKAY. [6. Reports of Council Members] ANYTHING ELSE INFORMATIONAL MR. GREESON? >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAE, MS. STEWART DISTRIBUTES A MEMORANDUM AT YOUR PLACE, WHICH IS A RESPONSE FROM THE TWO CONSULTANTS THAT YOU ARE CHECKING REFERENCES ON. THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THAT HAS BEEN PLACED BEFORE YOU FOR REVIEW. I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE IS CONTINUING REFERENCE CHECKS THIS WEEK. THIS MATTER WILL BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AGAIN NEXT WEEK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT. NOTHING ELSE, MR. GREESON? MS. THRESS, ANYTHING? EXECUTIVE SESSION? >> NOTHING, OTHER THAN THAT >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON? >> D. ROBINSON: NOTHING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MMR. FU ST? >> D. FOUST: NOTHING. >> D. SMITH: NOTHING. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: NOTHING. >> R. DOROTHY: NOTHING. >> M. GREESON: NOTHING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NOTHING FOR ME. SO MS. DOROTHY MOVES WE GO TO [8.A. Conference with an attorney for the City concerning disputes involving the City that are the subject of pending or imminent court action.] EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONFERENCE WITH THE ATTORNEY WITH DISPUTES WITH THE CITY SUBJECT OF PENDING OR EMINENT COURT ACTION, SECONDED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON EXECUTIVE SESSION? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY ERS MOVES WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. MS. KOWALCZYK? >> B. KOWALCZYK: YES. >> R. DOROTHY: YES. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YES,. >> D. SMITH: YES,. [01:40:01] >> D. FOUST: YES. >> D. ROBINSON: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THEY ARE ALL SAYING YES. MR. ROBINSON MOVES FOR ADJOURNMENT, SECONDED * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.