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[1. Call To Order]

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS GOOD. I LIKE TO CALL THE JULY 15TH MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE RISE PLEDGE OF THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

[5.A. Resolution No. 46-2019 Express Appreciation to Chief Jerry Strait]

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT.

WE HAVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 462019, EXPRESSING THE APPRECIATION AND BEST WISHES OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL.

INTRODUCED BY MR. MYERS AND FOR ADOPTION BY MR. SMITH AND SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> YEA. >> MR. GREESON, I'M GOING TO

TURN TO YOU FOR SOME REMARKS. >> PRESIDENTIAL MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CHIEF STRAIT, IT IS MY HONOR TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE REMARKS AS PART OF THE CAREER F JERRY STRAIT. THE RESOLUTION THAT THE OUNCIL PRESIDENT MICHAEL WILL READ FOR THE ECORD AND PRESENT TO CHIEF STRAIT IN A FEW MINUTES HIGHLIGHTS CHIEF STRAIT'S 37 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND 32 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. YOU'LL HEAR IN MY PRESENT TAKE I GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CHIEF STRAIT AND JERRY.

THAT'S -- FOR REASONS THAT -- THAT I WANT TO HONOR HIS FORMER ROLE AS CHIEF AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TO ALL OF US HE'S OUR FRIEND JERRY AS WELL. JERRY JOINED THE DIVISION OF POLICE AFTER HAVING SERVED WITH -- WITH THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY IN GAHANA I BELIEVE AS BOTH DISPATCHER AND FRAUD.

HE WORKED IN RETAIL LOSS CONTROL.

IN HIS CAREER IN WORTHINGTON, THERE'S FEW JOBS HE HASN'T PERFORMED. A PATROL OFFICER, A DETECTIVE, FIELD TRAINING OFFICE, SERGEANT, ADMINISTRATIVE SERGEANT, LIEUTENANT AND OF COURSE THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

A REMARKABLE TENURE FOR SOMEONE WE ALL BELIEVE IS A REMARKABLE MAN. AT EVERY LEVEL CHIEF STRAIT HAS HAD EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE. I TOOK A LOOK AT HIS PERSONNEL FILE RECENTLY. I NOTED THAT ONE OF HIS SUPERVISORS IN 1991, THEN SERGEANT BOB OPPENHEIMER SAID -- THIS IS 1991, I BELIEVE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WITH THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, THIS OFFICER IS A SELF-STARTER AND NEEDS VERY LITTLE SUPERVISION AND EXCEEDS THE DEPARTMENTAL STANDARD IN ALL AREAS. WE'LL FAST FORWARD TO 2019 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK IM FOR HIS SERVICE TO WORTHINGTON, NOT JUST EXCEEDING THE STANDARD BUT SETTING IT FOR THE REST OF US.

CHIEF STRAIGHT'S SERVICE OF HARD WORK AND BEING PRESENT AND SAYING YES TO THE TASKS HAT NEEDED TO BE DONE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY MIGHT BE. JERRY EXUDES HUMILITY.

HE'S ALWAYS BEEN FOCUSSED ON WORTHINGTON, ON US BEING ONE ORGANIZATION, ON THE WE, NOT THE I.

WHETHER AS CHIEF OR IN ANOTHER ROLE JERRY HAS PUT THE CITIZENS AND OTHER EMPLOYEES AND OUR ORGANIZATION FIRST, NEVER HIMSELF. HE'S ONE OF THE MOST THOUGHTFUL AND FAIR PERSON I HAVE WORKED WITH.

ANY CHIEF HAS TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, ONES THAT OTHERS MAY NOT LIKE. JERRY LISTENS AND IS WILLING TTO TOER -- TO HEAR ALL SIDES AND IS FAIR IN HIS DECISION-MAKING.

CHIEF STRAIT IS A GOOD ADMINISTRATIVE LEADER.

HE'S AS GOOD A LEADER AS A PERSON.

HE'S BEEN AN INNOVATOR, ADVANCING TECHNOLOGY IMPLEMENTATION, ADVANCING POLICE TRAINING AND STANDARD AND BEST PRACTICES IN OUR ORGANIZATION. CHIEF STRAIGHT HAS NEVER WAIVERED. -- WAVERED IN INSURING THE

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SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND HIS OFFICERS.

EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ROCKS OR THE GLUE THAT REINFORCE WHAT WE DO, PROMOTE AND AT TIMES HOLD TOGETHER POSITIVE CULTURAL VALUES.

THEY SET THE TONE. FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, KE CHIEF STRAIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. HE TREATS EVERYONE THE SAME.

HE SEEKS OPPORTUNITIES TO MENTOR AND COACH AND ENCOURAGE.

HE'S ALWAYS THE FIRST TO VOLUNTEER, TO COOK THE HOT DOGS, TO ORGANIZE AN EVENT, TO ATTEND A MEETING OR SUPPORT THE CAUSE.

ALWAYS A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND ALWAYS THE TRUTH AND ALWAYS WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS.

THIS HAS OCCURRED BOTH INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION AND I THINK YOU SHOULD NO IT HAS OCCURRED OUTSIDE OF OUR ORGANIZATION THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

CHIEF STRAIT HAS MENTORED IN THE SCHOOLS, EVEN IN HIS LAST YEAR HERE. HE'S SERVED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY THROUGH THE FOP, THROUGH THE OHIO CHIEFS OF POLICE, AND MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

HE'S BEEN ACTOUGH IN THE LOCAL LION'S CLUB, ACTIVELY SUPPORTED ANTI-DRUG EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SERVED MEALS AT A LOCAL CHURCH AND BEEN PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OUR CITIZEN'S LIVES.

IN A CONVERSATION JUST TODAY WHEN HE CERTAINLY HAS HAD MANY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT THIS WEEK3 AND A LIST TO GET DONE AND WRAP UP, HE REMARKED TO ME THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE KEPT IN CONTACT WITH AN ELDERLY RESIDENT WHO RECENTLY LOST HIS WIFE.

THIS UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVING THERS COMES FROM HIS FAITH AND I BELIEVE HIS FAMILY, MANY OF WHOM ARE HERE THIS EVENING. YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS ABOUT HM, HIS FATHER IS A RETIRED AW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

HIS BROTHER IS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. HIS SISTER A NURSE.

HIS WIFE LEE A HIGHLY EXPERIENCED NURSE AND NOW THE NEXT GENERATION IS GIVING BACK, HIS DAUGHTER CALLI IS A SOCIALER WORKER. COLIN WE HAVE HIGH HOPE FOR YOU IN LEADING IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

PUBLIC SERVANT AND OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS NOT EASY.

AND THEY HAVE SUPPORTED HIM AND BY EXTENSION ALL OF US THROUGH THESE YEARS. WE'RE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF THEM AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY THANK YOU CHIEF STRAIT FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF US AND DEDICATION TO THE CITIZENS OF

WORTHINGTON. >> WILLING TO MEET ME AT THE

PODIUM. >> ALL THE YEARS YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND THE WONDERFUL SERVICE YOU'VE DONE, I KNOW THE MEN AND WOMEN APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU.

WE MISS YOU. WE UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON. WE'RE STILL GOING TO MISS YOU.

I'M GOING TO READ THE FULL RESOLUTION.

WHEREAS CHIEF JERRY STRAIT HAS A DISTINGUISHED 37-YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER, FIRST SERVING AS THE HIGHEST UNIVERSITY POLICE OFFICER AND THEN SERVING 32 YEARS WITH THE WORTHINGTON DIVISION OF POLICE, WHEREAS CHIEF STRAIT BEGAN A PATROL OFFICER IN -- IN 1987, WAS NAMED WORTHINGTON POLICE OFFICER OF THE YEAR IN 1996, WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT IN 1999, LIEUTENANT IN 2011 AND POLICE CHIEF IN 2016.

WHEREAS THE SUPPORT, AND THE WORTHINGTON DIVISION OF POLICE HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR ITS XLNS WITH COMMITTED OFFICERS AND PERSONNEL THAT REPRESENT THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON WITH DIGNITY AND EXEMPLARY SERVICE. CHIEF STRAIGHT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED REPEATEDLY BY RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS AND SCHOOL LEADERS FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY BY PERSONALLY CONNECTING WITH AND ASSISTING CITIZENS IN CRIME PREVENTION EFFORTS. WHEREAS CHIEF STRAIGHT HAS SUPPORTED THE GROWTH OF THE POLICE CITIZEN'S ACADEMY AND THE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION TO BECOME ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS AND THE

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SAFETY AND SUPPORT NINITIATIVES. CHIEF STRAIT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN DRUG SAFE WORTHINGTON AND THE LEADERSHIP GRADUATE AND WHEREAS CHIEF STRAIT IS RETIRING ON AUGUST 16, 2019.

I THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, COUNTY OF FRANKLIN, STATE OF OHIO, THAT ONE ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE CITY COUNCIL HERE BY EXPRESSES TO CHIEF STRAIT SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS AND YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AND EXTENDS IM BEST WISHES TO THE -- IN HIS FUTURE PURSUITS.

TWO, THAT THE CLERK OF COURTS BE INSTRUCTED TO DELIVER A COPY TO CHIEF STRAIT AND RECORD THEM IN THE APPROPRIATE RECORD BOOK.

>> THANK YOU ERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT.

>> AS IS CUSTOMARY IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE PERSON'S NAMETAG THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND WE PUT IT INTO A SHADOW BOX FOR -- AS A LITTLE MEMORY OF ALL OF YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.

>> APPRECIATE THAT. VERY KIND.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MR. GREESON, DIRECTOR AND CITY STAFF. I'VE EEN BLESSED WITH THE HONOR OF BEING A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON OHIO.

FURTHER AS I TOLD CITY MANAGER DAVID ELDER AND ALSO FORMER CHIEF IN MY INTERVIEW 30-SOME YEARS AGO THAT I WANTED THIS JOB AND ULTIMATELY I WANTED THE CHIEF'S JOB.

I THINK I TOOK SOME CHANCES WITH THAT BUT THEY DID HIRE ME.

AND I'VE HAD THE ONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF BEING THE CHIEF OF POLICE SERVING ALONGSIDE MANY GREAT PUBLIC SERVANTS.

SOME ARE PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.

MANY HAVE RETIRED AND SOME OF MY -- MY MENTORS ARE HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF DICK IS REALLY RETIRED BUT HE'S STILL HERE.

SO, ANYWAY, I HAD SOME GREAT MENTORS AND MANY ARE WORKING WITHIN THE DIVISION OF THE POLICE TODAY, NOT ONLY IN OUR DIVISION BUT -- BUT AROUND CENTRAL OHIO'S ACROSS THE GREAT NATION. WE GOT -- WE HAD THE BLESSINGS OF HAVING MANY PEOPLE SERVE WITH ME AND FOR ME AND HAVE NOW TAKEN THE REINS AND ARE CURRENTLY SERVING.

OUR OFFICERS WORK TO INSURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY GETS THE BEST IN POLICE SERVICES. IF YOU COMMEND ME FOR MY JOURNEY, MAY KUDOS TO ALL OF THEM, MY SUCCESSES ARE NOT JUST MINE, THEY'RE BY THE GRACE OF GOD, FAMILY, MENTORS AND FRIENDS AND ESPECIALLY HESE FINE PEOPLE THAT SERVE YOU EVERY DAY.

REGARDING MY POLICE FAMILY, I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE ONE OF THEM -- ONE THAT SUPPORTED ME THROUGH THE VARIOUS STAGES OF MY CAREER AND THAT'S MR. JIM DUNN. THEY HAVE ENDURED ON LIVING WITH A MROIF. WE MI WE MISS HOLIDAYS AND GATHERINGS.

WITH THE SUPPORT OF MY FAMILY AND BELIEVED IN THIS PROFESSION AND THE MISSION. MY WIFE LEE ANN HAS BEEN MY ROCK. MY CONFIDANT AND MY SOUNDING BOARD. SHE'S BEEN WILLING TO STAY WITH ME DURING ANY AND ALL OF LIFE'S EVENTS, SOME TRAGIC AND MANY MORE GREAT EXPERIENCES. WITHOUT HER I COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH MY DREAMS. MY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN GREAT SUPPORTERS AS HAS MY SON-IN-LAW. I SHOULD NOTE THAT EVEN CALLI WENT ON TO BECOME A CITIZEN'S ACADEMY GRADUATE AND OBTAINED THE INSIDE SCOOP O THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

AND I'VE COME -- I'VE COME WITH A LONG HISTORY, AS YOU HEARD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. MY DAD JERRY SR. RETIRED.

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MY MOM LINDA WAS A LONG-TIME BEAUTICIAN.

AND MY SISTER A NURSE AND MY BROTHER-IN-LAW ERIK WOLF THE INVESTIGATIVE UNIT AND MY BROTHER KEVIN WHO IS PROBABLY WATCHING AND MAKING FUN OF ME RIGHT NOWS HERE, FLYING IN TOMORROW BUT HE'S RETIRED FROM THE TAMPA POLICE.

I'M PROUD TO HAVE THEM AROUND ME.

I KNOW -- I MISS MY NEPHEW SPENCER.

HE'S OVER HERE TOO. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU OUT SPENCE.

TO THIS COMMUNITY, OUR VETERANS, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AND SCHOOL BOARD AND THE CHAMBER AND PARTNERSHIP AND LIONS AND OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY. I COULD NOT HAVE ASKED FOR BETTER FOLKS TO GUIDE ME AND TO SUPPORT ME WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDE ERS RESPONDERS.

I THANK

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY? NO? CHIEF, AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU.

MAY EVERYTHING GO WELL FOR YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEAR'S OF

SERVICE. >> WE'RE GOING TO -- TO HOLD OFF FOR GETTING THE REST IN CASE SOME OF THE REST OF YOU DON'T WANT TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME BUT SOME OF YOU MAY NOT WANT TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING SO WE'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES IF

[6. Approval of the Minutes]

OKAY. I MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 1ST AND ULY 8TH MEETINGS.

ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES OR ANYTHING? MS. KOWALCZYK ASK WE APPROVE THEM.

YAH. OPPOSED LIKE SIGN.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED.

[7.A. Ordinance No. 24-2019 Appropriation - 2019 Street Improvement Program]

ORDINANCE NUMBER 24-2019 AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2052-2018 AS AMENDED TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR APPROPRIATION FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY THE COSTS OF THE -- OF THE 2019 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE.

FOUST MOVES WE AMEND THE DOLLAR FIGURE IN THE ORDINANCE TO BE 1 MILLION, 411,196 DOLLARS AND THAT -- THAT DECKER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY -- SECONDED BY MR. SMITH.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENTS? NOT ALL OF THEM IN AVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS SIGNIFY BY SAYING YEA. OPPOSED LIKE SIGN.

MR. GREESON. >> THIS IS OUR ANNUAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. I BELIEVE WE CONDUCTED THE STREET TOUR. WE PRESENTED YOU THE PROJECTS.

YOU'VE INTRODUCED THE ORDINANCE. WE ISSUED THE BIDS AND THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT WITH THE -- WITH THE SUCCESSFUL RESPONDENT DECKER CONSTRUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF THE BID WITH CONTINGENCY. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. WHITED IF HE HAS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

>> THANK YOU MR. GREESON. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS STREET GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.

IT DOES INCLUDE MINOR MODIFICATIONS OF REPAVING OF THE MCCORD PARKING LOT AS WELL AS MICRO SURFACING ON WORTHINGTON GALENA AND SHROK ROAD. WITH THE 5 PERCENT CONTINGENCY IT IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WE INITIALLY INTENDED.

WE -- WE FEEL WE'LL GET A GOOD PRODUCT HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD

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TO ETTING STARTED ON THIS WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

>> QUESTION? >> HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE TYPE -- WELL, I'M VERY HAPPY WITH HOW THIS HAS BEEN. I KNOW WHEN YOU CAME ON, YOU WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF EEPING OUR PAVEMENT IN GOOD SHAPE. THIS MICRO SURFACING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL DO FOR OUR LIFE AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY REJUVENATION BUT -- BUT -- COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHEN AND --

AND WE FIND OUT HOW THAT WORKS. >> IT TAKES TIME TO SEE THE PAYOFF FROM THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO DO SOME REJUVENATION THIS YEAR.

BUT IT IS OKAY TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, IF YOU DO IT IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROJECT. WE INTEND TO DO REJUVENATE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WE PUT THE IT IS NOT A SLURRY SEAL BUT IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO IT. WHEN YOU PUT IT DOWN IT SETS UP BETTER AND LOOKS BETTER IN THE LONG-TERM AND EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT BY ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AND REDUCING THE CRACKING AND OTHER DECAY, THE DETERIORATION TO THE PAVEMENT.

IT -- IT -- YOU CAN PUT A CERTAIN TIME FRAME AND A SWEET SPOT AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE SWEET SPOT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING THE FIRST MICRO SURFACING PROJECT.

>> I'M EXCITED WE'RE DOING THIS NEW PRODUCT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW IT TURNS OUT. I KNOW EVERY YEAR WE HAVE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF KNOWING THE TIMING WHICH I -- IT IS USUALLY VERY WEATHER DEPENDENT BUT GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO WHOEVER'S STREET IT AND WE TELL THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO MAKE SURE WE NOTIFY OUR CONSTITUENTS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. SO IF YOU COULD RELAY THAT

MESSAGE. >> WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENT CONTRACT THAN WE HAD THE LAST FEW YEARS.

I'LL BE MAKE SURE THAT WE REEMPHASIZE THAT WITH THE NEW CONTRACT AND FOLLOW UP AND YOU MENTIONED WEATHER AND THAT'S ALWAYS A HARD THING TO DEAL WITH.

HOPEFULLY WON'T MESS US UP TOO MUCH THIS YEAR.

>> WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO GET STARTED?

>> IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON

ORDINANCE NUMBER 25. >> ROBINSON, FOUST, SMITH, DOROTHY, SMITH, MYERS, MICHAEL. ORDINANCE NUMBER 24-2019 IS

[7.B. Ordinance No. 25-2019 Bond Anticipation Notes Renewal]

PASSED, ORDINANCE 25-2019 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOTES IN THE AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED 4 MILLION 460,000 IN ANTICIPATION OF THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS AND DESIGNING AND RECONSTRUCTING SEWER IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL AFURTHERANCES. AND DESIGNING AND REPLACING AND CONSTRUCTING AND INSTALLING A WATER LINE ON EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD WITH RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL NECESSARY AFURTHERANCES THERE TO. AND REPLACING OR IMPROVING THE ROOFS OF THE FIRE STAIR AND THE COMMUNITY STATION AND ALL NECESSARY APURNTANCES THERE TO. AND NOTES PREVIOUSLY ISSUED FOR SUCH PURCHASES AND APPROVING RELATED MATTERS IN CONNECTION

WITH THE ISSUANCE OF TIS. >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, THE ORDINANCE TITLE SUMMARIZES VERY WELL THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PART OF THE NOTES. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BARTER TO TOUCH ON HOW THESE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES ARE PART OF OUR FINANCIAL STRATEGY FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019, THE CITY ISSUED 4 MILLION 460,000 DOLLARS OF NOTES TO FUND A MULTITUDE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THOSE NOTES WILL COME UE IN THE SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. THIS LEGISLATION AUTHORIZES ISSUANCE OF ADDITIONAL NEW NOTES TO REPLACE THOSE OLD NOTES.

WE ANTICIPATE A FULL BOND Y ISSUANCE AS WE CLOSE THE GATEWAY AND HAVE FINAL NUMBERS ON THE PROJECTS LISTED HERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS SHORT-TERM

FINANCING? >> YES, SIR.

ONE YEAR. >> THIS WOULD BE ONE YEAR.

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>> YES. THE LAST ONE WAS ONE YEAR.

>> WONE OF THE ADVANTAGES IS WE'LL DO A LARGER BOND ISSUE.

RIGHT. CORRECT.

>> PLEASE ALL THE ROLL ON ORDINANCE 25, 2019.

>> KOWALCZYK, FUST, DOROTHY, SPECK, MYERS, ROBINSON, MICHAEL.

[7.C. Ordinance No. 26-2019 Appropriation - McCord Park Renovations - Design]

>> ORDINANCE 25-2019 PASSED. ORDINANCE 26-2019 AS AMENDED TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY THE MCCOURT PARK RENOVATION DESIGN AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT.

THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND IT.

SO I NEED TO ASK -- MR. MYERS WILL MOVE.

WE AMEND IT AS -- AS POD DESIGN LLC AS THE CONSULTANT AND APPROPRIATION FEE TO BE 315,150 DOLLARS.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED BY MISS DOROTHY.

ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE AMENDMENT?

>> IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING YEA.

OPPOSED LIKE SIGN. MR. -- MR. -- MR. -- MR. GREESON, YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENT.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, RENOVATION OF MCCOURT PARK IS IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU ADOPTED AND WAS THE DESIGN FOR IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2019 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HURLEY WHO WILL OVERVIEW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH

WITH THIS PROJECT. >> I THANK YOU.

MR. GREESON AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IT IS EXCITING THAT WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH MCCORD PARK.

LAST YEAR CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PLAN FOR MCCORD PARK AND THE STAFF HAVING WORKING TOWARD THE SELECTION OF A CONSULTANT.

WE'VE INTERVIEWED TWO FIRMS AND HAVE MADE A RECOMMENDATION F THE POD DESIGN. IF YOU RECALL POD WAS THE FIRM THAT WAS AWARDED THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROCESS AND STEVE IS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING AS THE PRINCIPAL THERE.

WE -- WHAT -- WHAT THIS STEP DOES, IT TAKES US FROM THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WHICH IS -- HERE'S WHERE THINGS WOULD GO.

HERE'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE PARK RENOVATION AND INTO THE MORE DETAILED DESIGNING PHASE WHICH WOULD SAY WHAT DOES THE PLAYGROUND LOOK LIKE? WHAT WOULD THE RESTROOM FACILITY LOOK LIKE? HOW ARE THE DRIVES GOING TO WORK AND THOSE SORTS OF DETAILS. THIS PROPOSED FEE WOULD INCLUDE SITE ANALYSIS AND CONCEPT VERIFICATION AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN, AND DETAIL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, BIDDING SUPPORT AND CONSTRUCTION OBSERVATION AND GEOTECHNICAL SITE SURVEY. WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE THINK WE MAY NEED AND AS WE GET IN THE DESIGN PHASE WE WILL PICK AND CHOOSE AND TO WHAT DEGREE. I REALIZE THE UMBER SEEMS LARGE. IT IS A, BECAUSE OF THAT AND WE INCLUDED ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT NEED ALL OF THEM. IT IS ALSO BASED ON AN ASSUMED CONSTRUCTION PRICE OF 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS MORE THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE C.I.P. SO THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION WE HAVE WITH YOU DURING THE UPCOMING CIP PROCESS.

A BIG CHUNK OF THAT FEE IS A PERCENTAGE OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS. IF WE DON'T END UP WITH THE 2.8 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET THAT FEE WOULD BECOME LESS.

SO THAT -- ALL OF THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON A 2.8 MILLION DOLLAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND -- AND -- AND WITHIN THAT IS A 10 PERCENT CONTINGENCY ADDED ON. AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THAT FIGURE IS VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE CITY SIDE AND GIVES US A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM. WE ANTICIPATE IT MAY COME IN LESS. SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL INTO THAT BUT AT THIS POINT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. L WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER HOW TO APPROACH THINGS.

>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE C.I.P.. IT LOOKED LIKE THE -- THE COST FOR THE DESIGN WAS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER AND THAT THERE WAS A COST FOR STARTING RENOVATIONS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY

FROM THAT? >> IN SEMANTICS I PROBABLY DIDN'T IN ONE OF THEM WE SAID DESIGN AND PHASE ONE AND THERE'S ABOUT A 75,000 DOLLAR ASSUMPTION OF DESIGN IN THE CIP BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES. WE DID NOT SEPARATE OUT THIS --

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THIS 7 PERCENT OF CONSTRUCTION COST PART OF DESIGN WHICH TO ME IS PART OF CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S -- THAT'S -- I PROBABLY COULD HAVE EXPLAINED DOCUMENT.ER IN THE C.I.P. - OUR HOPE IS TO AGAIN, IN THE C.I.P. TOTAL WE HAVE ABOUT -- WE HAVE ABOUT 400 -- WE HAVE 450,000 DOLLARS IN 2019 AND WE HAVE ONE MILLION 625,000 DOLLARS IN 2020 FOR A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION 75,000 DOLLARS CURRENTLY BUDGETED AND THAT INCLUDES DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT. SO SINCE THAT C.I.P. WAS IN THE WORKS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE FULL CONCEPTUAL PROCESS WHICH INCLUDES POD DESIGNS, OPINION OF PROBABLE COST AND SO -- AND THIS YEAR'S C.I.P. NOW WE HAVE A DESIGN AGREEMENT HOPEFULLY AND WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THOSE COSTS WILL BRING YOU BACK THE C.I.P. AND YOU COULD SET THE BUDGET FOR US AND WE'LL WORK

FROM THERE. >> ONE THING WE'LL DO THIS FALL IS ALSO DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTSIDE FUNDING, INCLUDING RESUBMITTING THIS AS A CAPITAL REQUEST IN THIS UPCOMING CYCLE,

IF THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THAT. >> I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE PROCESS IS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM FOR IF YOU WANT TO DO DRIVES AND ASPHALTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE AN BE VARIATION IN HOW NICE YOUR RESTROOM FACILITIES AND THE PLAYGROUND AND THOSE ARE THING THAT CAN ADD ZEROS PRETTY QUICKLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> MY QUESTION HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT MR. GREESON JUST INFORMED US, WITH THIS -- WOULD THIS DOCUMENTATION HELP US APPLY FOR OUTSIDE FUNDING. THANK YOU.

>> CONSULTANT OR DOES THIS INCLUDE CONSULTANT STAYING ON BOARD DURING THE PROCESS, ESSENTIALLY AS THE REPRESENTATIVE? AND WILL THE PLANS BE DRAWN UP IN A WAY THAT THERE COULD BE A PHASED PROJECT?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS AGAIN THAT COULD EFFECT THIS BOTH IN HOW -- HOW IT IS PAID OUT AND CERTAINLY THE AMOUNT IS YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING -- WE'VE ASKED IN -- IN THE RFP FOR THIS PROJECT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING US PHASING OPTIONS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'SING FOR TO BE TRADEOFFS OF PHASING OBVIOUSLY IN COST AND PLAYABILITY OF FIELDS AND IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE'LL LOOK AT -- WE'LL LOOK AT THE PHASED OPTIONS AND THE PROS AND CONS OF THOSE AS A PART OF THE PROCESS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE EXPECT THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION TO BE INVOLVED AND AS USUAL THE NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAKE HOLDERS AND IN THIS CASE OUR BUSINESS CORRIDOR AND THEN CERTAINLY YOU KNOW BOOSTERS AND THOSE FOLKS AS WELL. ULTIMATELY MR. MYERS IT WILL

COME BACK TO YOU. >> IF NOT, MISS THRESS CAN YOU

CALL THE ROLL? >> FOUST, DOROTHY, SMITH,

MYERS, ROBINSON, MICHAEL. >> ORDINANCE 26-2019 PASSED.

[7.D. Ordinance No. 27-2019 Subdivision - 6699 N. High Street - Goddard School]

ORDINANCE 2-2019 IS APPROVING THE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY AT 6699 NORTH HIGH STREET, SAMANTHA LATE STODDARD SCHOOL.

>> I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN.

HE'LL HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR THE GODARD SCHOOL AND A SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN RELATED TO THIS AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU MR. GREESON AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I NOTICE IN APPLICANT IS NOT HERE AND I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE AUGUST RECESS O HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND I CAN COVER THINGS FOR YOU. AS MR. GREESON MENTIONED, THIS INCLUDES A VARIANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

I WANT TO START WITH WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS BEFORE YOU AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T SEE PROJECTS.

ONE THING WITH OUR CODE, IF YOU'RE IN C3 OR I1 AND YOU HAVE A DANGER OR GO ACRES, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

IT ADDS A LAYER ON YOUR PROCESS THAT TAKES YOU, THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND STOP THERE OR AS VARIANCES.

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IT THEN GOES ON FOR APPROVAL FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT ULTIMATE APPROVAL. THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES YOU SEE A DIFFERENT PATH FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS COMING.

THIS ONE IS A LITTLE UNIQUE. AS PART OF THE PROPOSAL, IT IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE FUNERAL HOME SITE.

THE GODDARD SCHOOL WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON THE SITE.

THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU MEETS THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOUND FOR THE LOT SIZE AND THE FURNITURE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DISTRICT.

ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS FOUND IN THE C3 DISTRICT, YOUR YPICAL SIDE SET BACK IS TWO FEET BUT SINCE IT HAS A EVELOPMENT PLAN, IT KICKS IN AT 30-FOOT SIDE YARD REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S THE ONE VARIANCE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT 30-FOOT SIDE YARD REQUIREMENT. AGAIN, IT DID GO BEFORE THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

WHAT YOU SEE IS THE -- IS THE BUILDING IS TOWARDS THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE. IT IS AT LEAST PROBABLY 80 TO 90 FEET FROM THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.

THE EXISTING VEGETATION ON THE REAR PROPERTY LINE WILL REMAIN INTACT. HERE'S A CLOSER UP VERSION OF THE SITE. AS PART OF THIS, WE DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO DO CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT AND CROSS PARKING AGREEMENT FOR OVERFLOW WHEN THERE'S AN EVENT AT THE FUNERAL HOME OR SCHOOL. THE TIMES ARE DIFFERENT SO THEY COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER. AGAIN DID O BEFORE THE BOARD -- THE REVIEW BOARD FOR APPROVAL. IT WENT THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF THAT. MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION AS PART OF THIS, THIS IS A CASE THAT HAD FOUR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, HAD A CONDITIONAL USE AS PART OF THE DAYCARE AND IN THE C3 WE HAD BOARD APPROVAL AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A SUBDIVISION BEFORE YOU. SO AGAIN, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS -- IS THE PROPOSED NEW GODDARD SCHOOL.

AGAIN IT COMPLEMENTED THE FUNERAL HOME AND KEPT WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT.

I'LL GO THROUGH THIS. STORM WATER ACCESS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED. THEY WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND HAVE THE FINAL DESIGN AND APPROVAL.

AGAIN, GOING BEFORE PLANNING, THEY RECOMMENDED CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THAT. THE CONDITIONS WERE MORE TIED TO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.

AND THEN APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE AND THEN RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT DID INCLUDE THAT VARIANCE. THE CONDITIONS THEY ORIGINALLY PUT ON IT WERE RELATED TO RAISE THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF SCREEN AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND REVIEWED AND APPROVED. DEMONSTRATE FIRE ACCESS AND WATER FLOW. THAT WAS RVIEWED BY THE CHIEF'S OFFICE. THE COLOR OF THE BRICK AND THE WINDOW STYLE. THE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE VARIANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR. I CAN -- I CAN -- I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE UNLESS IT IS DIRECTLY FOR THE APPLICANT. I NOTE THE GABLES ON THE ROOF.

IS THAT A FUNCTIONAL SECOND STORY?

>> IT IS A FAUX SECOND STORY BUT HAT THEY'VE DONE, THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT -- I'LL GET BACK THERE QUICKLY.

THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT WILL ACTUALLY BE UP IN THE PAIR PUT AND YOU WON'T SEE THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.

IT WILL BE LOWERED IN THE ROOT CAVITY.

IT IS A FAUX SECONDTORY. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> DOROTHY. SMITH, MYERS, ROBINSON,

KOWALCZYK, MICHAEL. >> ORDINANCE HAS PASSED.

[8.A. Resolution No. 47-2019 Amendment to Development Plan - 6699 North High Street - Goddard School]

MOVING ON TO NEW LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCED, RESOLUTION NUMBER 47-2019 AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 66-99 NORTH HIGH STREET AND AUTHORIZING VARIANCES INTRODUCED BY MISS KOWALCZYK. MR. GREESON.

>> WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I DON'T HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 47-2019, SIGNIFY.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. RESOLUTION 47-2019 PASSED.

[8.B. Resolution No. 48-2019 Amendment to Development Plan - 438-510 East Wilson Bridge Road with Variances]

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RESOLUTION 48-2019, AUTHORIZING VARIANCES ON RUSH CREEK INVESTORS, INTRODUCED BY MR. SMITH, MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MR. MYERS, AND SECONDED BY MISS DOROTHY.

MR. GREESON. >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN TO HIGHLIGHT.

THIS IS THE RUSH CREEK PROPERTY OVER THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT AND RELATED TO THAT PROJECT, VARIANCES THAT ARE NEEDED. MR. BROWN.

>> MR. GREESON AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

YOU HAVE AN 11.7 ACRE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WORTHINGTON GALENA AND HUNTLY ROAD AND WILSON ROAD.

THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO PURCHASE A PORTION ONLY THE FRONTAGE OF 30 FEET AND THEN CLOSING THE ACCESS POINT ON THE WORTHINGTON GALENA SIDE. THIS IS THE EXISTING ACCESS POINT TO ACCESS THE THREE BUILDINGS, 100 SOME SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE. THIS WILL BE SHIFTED TO THE LEFT OR THE WEST AS PART OF THE REALIGNMENT.

THIS WILL PROBABLY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.

AGAIN, CLOSE UP HERE. HERE'S THE SITE IN QUESTION.

AS PART OF THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE -- PURCHASING THE PROPERTY ALONG THE FRONTAGE WHERE YOU SEE THE TREES. THE APPLICANT HAS A SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION, A SIGN FOR THE RESTAURANT IN LOCATION AND THEN A SIGN TO THE WEST OF THE CURRENT ACCESS DRIVE ON THE ACCESS TO THE SITE. THREE SIGNS GOING DOWN TO ONE SIGN AS PART OF THE PROJECT. AGAIN THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY'S MAIN ACCESS POINT WILL BE SHIFTING TO THE LEFT, IF I COULD FIND THE MOUSE. CURRENT DRIVE IS HERE AND SHIFT TO THE WEST, TO LINE UP WITH THE NEW GALENA INTERSECTION.

AGAIN AS PART OF THIS, THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR.

THERE WAS DESIGN CONCEPTS AS WE WENT THROUGH IT.

THE ROADWAY REALIGNMENT. ADDING IKEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND AS PART OF THIS WE'LL GET A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

AGAIN, THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS THE PORTION THE CITY IS PURCHASING FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF RUSH CREEK TWO.

IT IS KICKING IN A COUPLE OF VARIANCES.

THEY HAVE THREE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.

IT IS BEING REDUCED TO ONE SIGN. HOWEVER, THAT LOCATION OF THE ONE SIGN, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT A NEW SIGN IN, THE EXISTING UTILITIES ARE ALREADY THERE. THE CODE REQUIRES IT O BE TEN FEET FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT'LL BE SEVEN FEET, BUT ITS NEW LOCATION OF AN EXISTING SIGN. THE CODE ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE PARKING SETBACK BE 30 FEET BACK FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH THE PURCHASE OF OUR STRIP OF LAND, IT IS GOING TO REDUCE THAT STRIP DOWN TO SEVEN FEET.

WE'LL HAVE A TREE LAWN A SEVEN FEET UNTIL YOU GET TO THE PARKING LOT FOR THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.

AS PART OF THIS ONE, IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID RECOMMEND CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.

THE ONLY THING OUTSTANDING AT THAT TIME THAT WE DID RECEIVE BEFORE IT CAME TO YOU WAS A FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN ADDING THE SEVEN TREES THAT WOULD BE -- WOULD BE REMOVED AND ADDING THEM BACK IN THE SEVEN-FOOT SPACED AREA.

SO STAFF IS NOW RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. YES, SIR.

>> NUMBER 48-2019, SIGNIFY BY SAYING YEA.

CONGRATULATIONS IT HAS GONE THROUGH.

[8.C. Resolution No. 49-2019 Amend Staffing Chart - Police]

>> THANK YOU. >> RESOLUTION 49-2019, AMENDING THE STAFFING CHART OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO PROVIDE FOR 26 POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS IN THE DIVISION OF POLICE, FOR UP TO ONE YEAR PERIOD AND INTRODUCED BY MISS KOWALCZYK AND MOVE FOR ADOPTION BY MR. ROBINSON. SECONDED BY MR. FOUST.

>> THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN ANTICIPATION OF RETIREMENTS. THIS -- THIS -- A RETIREMENT.

THIS ALLOWS US TO INCREASE THE STAFFING CHART BY ONE WHICH ALLOWS US TO START GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IN HIRING A NEW POLICE OFFICER WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING THAT OFFICER HIRED IN --

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AND ULTIMATELY READY TO REPLACE A RETIRING OFICER.

WE DO THIS ON A TEMPORARY BASIS WHICH GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RUN THE PROCESS, MAKE AN OFFER AND ACTUALLY HIRE HE PERSON BEFORE THE OTHER PERSON LEAVES.

IT HELPS WITH CONTINUITY OF SERVICE.

IT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO OUR OPERATIONS.

>> WHEN THE EXISTING OFFICER LEAVES, DOES THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART REVERT TO ITS PRIOR STATUS?

>> YES. THIS IS FOR A NE-YEAR PERIOD.

WE -- WE ANTICIPATE RETIREMENTS. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO OCCUR. THE HIRING PROCESS SOMETIMES IS LENGTHY. WE WILL -- WE WON'T FOR INSTANCE HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON DURING THAT PERIOD UNLESS WE KNOW IT IS A VACANCY. IT IS A ONE-YEAR PERIOD.

IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REVERT. IF THE PERSON LEAVES JANUARY 1, IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REVERT, WE GIVE OURSELVES SOME TIME.

CORRECT. >> ALL IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 49-2019 SIGNIFY BY SAYING YEA. OPPOSED? RESOLUTION 49-2019 HAS PASSED. ORDINANCE NUMBER 28-2019

[8.D. Ordinance No. 28-2019 Appropriation - Police Building Modifications]

AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 52-2018 AS AMENDED TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND INAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY THE COST OF THE POLICE BUILDING MODIFICATION AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT

[8.E. Ordinance No. 29-2019 Appropriation - Upper Rush Run Stream Restoration]

INTRODUCED BY MR. SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER 29-2019 AMENDING ORDINANCE 52-2018 AS AMENDED TO JUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATION FOR THE COST OF THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY, RUSH RUN PROJECT AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT, INTRODUCED BY

[8.F. Ordinance No. 30-2019 Establish Compensation - Deputy Director of Safety/Police Chief]

MR. MYERS. ORDINANCE AMENDING TO ESTABLISH COMPENSATION FOR THE UNCLASSIFIED POSITION OF DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SAFETY POLICE CHIEF INTRODUCED BY MISS DOROTHY.

[8.G. Ordinance No. 31-2019 Appropriation - Demolition of 7200 Huntley Road]

ORDINANCE NUMBER 31-2019 TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR PROVIDING FOR A BALANCE OF THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY AND REMEDIATION PROJECT AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT. PROJECT NUMBER 602-14 INTRODUCED

[9.A.I. Community Visioning]

BY MISS KOWALCZYK. MOVING ON TO REPORTS TO THE CITY OFFICIALS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU MR. GREESON.

>> PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AT THE LAST MEETING I BELIEVE WE DISTRIBUTED INFORMATION THAT WAS FOLLOW-UP OR INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE. EXCUSE ME.

FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION RELATED TO -- TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED BY THE CONSULTANTS. ALSO THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU DESIGNATED TO PERFORM REFERENCE CHECKS PERFORMED THOSE ACTIVITIES. I BELIEVE WILL BE PREPARED TO REPORT ON WHAT THEY FOUND THIS EVENING.

AND WE PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT IF YOU ARE READY -- WELL, FIRST SO YOU COULD ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS -- THAT WAS -- THAT WAS PROVIDED SO THE OUNCIL MEMBERS COULD REPORT AND SO YOU COULD DISCUSS THE TWO FINALISTS FOR THE VISIONING CONSULTS AND IF YOU'RE READY DECIDE WHICH -- WHICH -- WHICH -- WHICH CONSULTANT YOU MAY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

NOW WE PUT AT YOUR PLACE AN -- AN -- A BLANK ORDINANCE THAT SHOULD YOU DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS THIS EVENING THAT YOU COULD INTRODUCE THAT ORDINANCE FOR -- FOR -- FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. THIS -- THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO APPROPRIATE MONEY THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER TO FUND THEM -- TO FUND THE CONSULTANT. SHOULD YOU PICK ONE THIS EVENING AND THERE'S AGREEMENT TO DO THAT, ONE APPROACH WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU WOULD -- YOU

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WOULD EITHER ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT OR BRING THE AGREEMENT BACK TO YOU, ACTUALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS BUDGET IN IN THE AGREEMENT, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

>> QUESTION I DO HAVE. IF WE ERE TO SELECT -- SELECT A COMPANY -- A CONSULTANT TONIGHT THAT CONSULTANT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE HIRED NTIL AFTER WE HAD THE RECESS AND COME BACK AND MEANING THAT THE VISIONING PROCESS WOULDN'T GET STARTED

UNTIL AFTER THAT? >> I THINK IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WE WOULD NOT BE UNDER CONTRACT. WE WOULD NOT HAVE FUNDS APPROPRIATED AND BE FULLY UNDER CONTRACT UNTIL THE -- THE FIRST

MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING -- WE WOULDN'T -- WE COULDN'T CONVENE A MEETING OF THE -- OF THE VISIONING COMMITTEE UNTIL AFTER OUR -- OUR RECESS AND UNTIL AFTER THIS CONTRACT IS IN PLACE? I'M TRYING TO GET A TIMELINE FIGURED OUT HERE.

>> IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN IS THAT THE FUNDING OUGHT TO BE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE CONSULTANTS GETTING ANY WORK?

>> NO. >> WELL.

>> THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON IF THERE'S BEEN A DECISION LET'S SAY BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND STAFF IS AUTHORIZED TO ROCEED KNOWING THAT FUNDING WILL FOLLOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T SEE BILL UNTIL MONTHS LATER. MOST CONSULTANTS ARE WILLING TO GET A PROJECT ROLLING AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A

SHOW-STOPPER. >> CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

CLARIFY OUR DIRECTION. SO

>> IF I MAY. >> GET THE COMMITTEE WORKING AS

QUICK AS POSSIBLE. >> COUNCIL, PRESIDENT, IF I MAY SPEAK TO THAT. IN ORDER FOR -- FOR DIRECTOR BARTER TO CERTIFY FUNDS FOR PURPOSES OF ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WE HAVE A LIMITATION OF HE CAN'T CERTIFY FUND THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN APPROPRIATED. SO IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO -- TO ENTER INTO THE ACTUAL CONTRACT, CERTAINLY THERE ARE ONSULTANTS THAT SOMETIMES WILL -- WILL -- ON -- ON FAITH THAT YOU WILL BE APPROVING THE CONTRACT THAT ISN'T ENFORCE POSSIBLE MAY BEGIN SOME PRELIMINARY WORK.

THERE'S ALWAYS THE RISK FOR BOTH SIDES THAT IF THAT -- IF THAT WORK IS -- IS UNDER TAKEN WITHOUT A CONTRACT IN PLACE THAT ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER UNSATISFACIED WITH THE RELATIONSHIP HAS A CLAIM FOR THE VALUE OF WHAT WORK THEY PRODUCED AND WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT BEING THE PROBLEM.

I DID WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

>> ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MATERIALS THAT WERE SENT OUT? WE'LL START WITH THAT AND THEN I WANT TO GO FOR THE COMMITTEE. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT THEY -- THEY STILL NEED ANSWERED? OKAY.

I WOULD LOVE TO -- TO AND COMMITTEE YOU DECIDE THE ORDER, I LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US WHAT THEY FOUND. WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST.

I'M HAPPY TO GO FIRST. >> WE HAD I THINK A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THE -- ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS AND IT WAS EVIDENT THAT EVERYONE HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE OVERALL WITH -- WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND THAT THEY HAD HIRED.

I THINK OBSERVATIONS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, INDIVIDUALS WE SPOKE TO, THEIR PROJECTS WERE VERY SPECIFIC.

ONE WAS THE CITY OF WADSWORTH AND IT WAS FOCUSED ON BRANDING AND THEN HARBOR -- HARBOR DISTRICT, SOME REVITALIZATION THERE. THEY WERE -- THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC, NARROW PROJECTS. THE INDIVIDUALS WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THE WORK THEY HAD DONE. PLANNING NEXT, WE TALKED TO -- TO -- TO PURPOSE ARLINGTON AND ATHENS AND CLARK COUNTY AND WESTERVILLE. I THINK -- ALL OF THEIRS WERE -- I THINK LARGER SCOPE, SIMILAR, MORE IN SIZE OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO I THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT -- ABOUT PLANNING NEXT.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE THAT -- THAT THEIR PROCESS ALLOWED PEOPLE TO FEEL THEY HAD BEEN HEARD.

IT WAS SO WELL FACILITATED THAT THE PEOPLE WERE ELECTRIC.

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THERE WAS MORE APPLICATIONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSENSUS. NO ONE COULD SAY THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE INPUT. THERE'S AREAS OF CONTENTION THAT THE CITIES WERE WORKING ON, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EXPECTED IN THEIR PROCESS. ONE CONCERN THAT WAS ARTICULATED WAS WHETHER THEY HAD PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS.

NEITHER OF THE CONSULTANTS WERE THAT WAY, THEY WERE VERY OPEN.

THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT UPPER ARLINGTON AND HE INDIVIDUAL WE TALKED TO SAID UPPER ARLINGTON HAD AN IDEA OF HERE THEY NEEDED TO GO AND THEN THEY BROUGHT PLANNING IN NEXT TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. BUT IT WAS NOT PLANNING'S NEXT DIRECTION TO TAKE THEM, REGARDING -- REGARDING THINGS -- THINGS -- CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY DIDN'T COME IN AND SAY WHAT IT WOULD BE AND THEY FELT LIKE THE COMMUNITY HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH.

NO WEAKNESSES. FOR THE MOST PART SOME MINOR THINGS ABOUT MEETINGS. ONE INDIVIDUAL SAID THEY HAD MEETINGS. I THINK THAT WAS IT.

PLEASE ADD. >> I DON'T THINK ANYTHING I HEARD WOULD CAUSE ME TO ELIMINATE THE FINALISTS.

THEY BOTH -- I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT THERE WAS A POSSIBLE PRECONCEIVED NOTION AND A STARTING POINT THEY CAME IN WITH BOTH REGARD TO THE PROCESS AND THE PRODUCT.

PERHAPS I MISHEARD THAT. WHICH COMPANY?

>> AGAIN, I -- IT WASN'T A POINT THAT WAS DRIVEN HARD BUT 3 FORMULA ISSUE WAS ONE I RAISED ALONG THE WAY AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO POUND ON ADMITTEDLY. I DID LIKE -- I HEARD GOOD THINGS. I ENJOYED HEARING PODMIRE ON THE PROJECT, THE COMMENT WAS THEY HAD VOLUNTEERS AND RECRUITING VOLUNTEERS, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE.

THEY KNEW THE PLAYERS. THEY DID THEIR HOMEWORK.

YOU KNOW SOME VOLUNTEERS WERE MORE NEEDY AND THEY RESPONDED AND ADJUSTED TO THAT WHICH GAVE ME SOME FORESHADOWING OF WHAT OUR PROJECT MIGHT FEEL LIKE AS WELL.

I COULDN'T ELIMINATE ANY -- ANY -- THEY ARE OF THEM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE HEARD, I KNOW WE HAD KIND OF A -- A MOMENTUM GOING HERE GOING INTO THIS WITH -- WITH COUNCIL'S COMMENTS AND VOTES. I WANT TO ASK MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THINK HARD BEFORE WE MAKE THE FINAL SELECTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IT TONIGHT.

I WANT TOO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ABOUT WHY WE GOT HERE WHICH GOSH, WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS, BUT FOUR YEARS AND TWO MONTHS AGO WE GOT A WAKE-UP THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS COMPLETE A KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED AS MAYBE WE THOUGHT WE DID. THEN THE MONTHS THAT FOLLOWED THAT OVER -- TO THE ELECTION IN -- AND OTHER -- THERE WAS AFFIDAVIT BE IT COUNCIL OR WHATEVER. IT IS KEY THAT WE COME INTO THIS EXERCISE WITH A CLEAN SLATE. THAT IS WHERE I THINK HE DISTINCTION LIES. I MENTIONED TO A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS THAT THE ONE WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE ONE AND I GOT THIS REACTION. IT WAS NOT POSITIVE.

AND THAT -- THAT'S -- THAT MAY NOT BE FAIR BUT THAT'S THE REACTION I GOT. IF YOU GO TO THE PLANNING NEXT WEBSITE AND CLICK ON NEWS, THE FIRST THING THAT POPS UP IS THEY'RE TOUTING THEIR INVOLVEMENT WITH WORTHINGTON AND BIKE AND PED AND MASTER PLAN AND COORDINATING WITH DOROTHY AND

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DOROTHY IS THERE IN THE PICTURE. SO WE HAD CRITICISMS IN THE PAST ABOUT MKSK BEING TOO CLOSE TO WORTHINGTON.

IF ONLY OR THE SAKE OF HAVING THE CLEAN SLATE AND NO HISTORY WHATSOEVER, TO ME, YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT ONE THAT -- THAT MAYBE HAS SOME BAGGAGE. GOOD BAD OR OTHERWISE, IT IS BAGGAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO INTO THIS HOLLY ABOVE ANY REPROACH OR QUESTION ABOUT THE INDEPENDENCE AND THE -- THE 3 CLEAN SLATE MENTALITY OF THE

CONSULTANT COMING ON BOARD. >> ONE MORE MEMBER REPORTING.

>> I MISSED THE FIRST MEETING SERIES.

SO -- I TOOK MORE OF A LISTENING ROLE.

TO BE FAIR I DIDN'T ACTIVELY TALK DURING THE SECOND MEETING, JUST TO KEEP THINGS FAIR. WHAT I HEARD, I THINK IT IS CLEAR OUR PROJECT IS UNIQUE. THERE MAY BE MAGNITUDE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH THESE CONSULTS THAT ARE SIMILAR MAGNITUDE.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING O ACHIEVE AND RESOLVE IS PRETTY UNIQUE. EVEN LISTENING THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS UPSTAIRS AND WHAT NOT, I GET THE SENSE THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE PROJECT FOR ANY CONSULTANT WHICH IS A GOOD THING. I ALWAYS SAW THIS AS A -- AS -- THIS WILL BE THERE FOR THE FEATHER IN THEIR CAP WHOEVER THE CONSULTANT IS. IT'LL BE THE BENCHMARK WHICH WORTHINGTON SHOULD BE. DID LISTEN, OBVIOUSLY, REPUTABLE COMPANIES AND THEY PROVIDE REFERENCES THAT SPOKE HIGHLY OF THEM. I WENT BACK INTO THE QUESTIONS 3 THAT WERE ANSWERED LAST WEEK. I JUST ANALYZED THAT EFORE I LISTENED IN ON THE CONVERSATION AND -- A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE CONVERSATION FROM UPPER ARLINGTON THAT POPPED OUT WAS -- TWO TINGS. WADSWORTH SAID POKEMIRE HAD MEANS. IN PLANNING NEXT WITH UPPER ARLINGTON, THE FELLOW WE WERE TALKING TO TOUTED JAMIE THE PRINCIPAL OWNER AND HIS PLANNING BACKGROUND.

HE'S WON NATIONAL AWARDS IN THE PLANNING INDUSTRY.

NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS STRUCK ME AS TOO POSITIVE IN THIS CONTEXT FOR US. IF WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLANNING DOCUMENT OR TYPICAL MEETINGS WE FIND OKAY.

SO I START OFF BY, COMING WITH THAT APPROACH, I DO WANT TO SELECT ONE OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE REPUTABLE AND I THINK WE COULD DO IT TONIGHT. I DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GOT BACK LAST WEEK AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THROUGH THOSE, BUT I WAS EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN WHAT THEY WERE -- THEY WERE RESPONDING TO THE QUESTIONS AND WHILE I WAS LISTENING IN ON UPPER ARLINGTON AND WADSWORTH, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE ANSWERS THAT EACH CONSULTANT GAVE. IT JUST KIND OF SHOWN LIGHT ON THE QUESTIONS. QUESTION TWO SPECIFICALLY AND QUESTION FOUR AND QUESTION TWO I ASKED ABOUT HOW THE CONSULTANTS WOULD HANDLE AN ABSTRACT TOPIC. I USED THE EXAMPLE OF QUOTE, UNQUOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I HAD NO INTENTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.

WE COULD SAY THAT'S A COMPLEX ABSTRACT TOPIC THAT COULD GO A LOT OF DIRECTIONS. POKEMIRE APPROACHED IT BY SAYING YES, THIS IS AN ABTRACT TOPIC AND VERY COMPLEX AND THEN THEY WENT ON TO SAY, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 DIFFERENT CAN SOURCES SAYING WELL IT COULD MEAN THIS OR IT THEY CITED THE HUD RENTAL PROPERTIES, THEY TALKED ABOUT ZONING CHANGES THAT DOROTHY SENT US MONTHS AGO TO READ. THEY CITED THE RENT CONTROL IN NEW YORK AND BOSTON. ALL F THESE THINGS THEY TOOK AN EXTRA STEP ND WENT AND GAVE US SOME SOURCES THEY CITED ABOUT HOW THEY MIGHT APPROACH AN ABSTRACT TOPIC LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THEN YOU HAVE PLANNING NEXT WHO ANSWERED THE SAME QUESTION AND SAID IT IS TOO LERL EARLY TO TE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM THE QUESTION.

THIS IS KIN TO A TANGIBLE PROJECT.

IN MY DAY JOB WE DO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

IF MY A CONSULTANT FOR A ROOFING PROJECT AND COME AND SAY, OOPS,

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WE ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IF THERE'S MOLD UNDER THE ROOF THAT YOU CAN'T SEE DURING YOUR INSPECTION, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THAT? THEY SAY WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET IN THERE. I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

IF THEY SAID IF IT IS MOLD ON THE MAIN JOIST AND IF HERE, WE WOULD DO THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT ANSWER.

I SEE THIS AS A METAPHOR HERE IN THIS.

SAME WITH QUESTION FOUR WHERE WE ASK ABOUT THE DOOR-TO-DOOR.

I PUT MY CARD ON THE TABLE. I LIKE THE JACKSON CLARK FOLKS BECAUSE THEY HAD A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THE DOOR-TO-DOOR. AND THESE -- YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW WOULD THEY APPROACH IT? SAME THING. POKEMIRE SAID HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD COST AND THE PEOPLE WE COULD DEVOTE AND WHAT IT TAKES.

THEN WE HAVE PLANNING THAT SAYS WE DON'T THINK YOU COULD DO THAT BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

NOT HAPPY WITH THAT RESPONSE. YOU COULD EE ON PAPER HOW THE PROCESS WOULD GO IF WE WENT WITH PLANNING NEXT.

I WOULD ADVICE TOWARD POKEMIRE THE REFERENCE CHECKS, THEY BOTH PASSED BUT HERE WE ARE, MAKE A DECISION.

>> ADD TO YOUR DESCRIPTIONS OF THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS AND THE RESPONSES, THERE WAS A LOT OF A ADD-ONS. THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED N THERE -- IN -- IN THEIR SUBSEQUENT RESPONSES TO OUR QUESTIONS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT -- THAT GOES BACK TO MY ANALOGY ABOUT THE ROOF. WHEN I HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT I WORK WITH THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE UNTIL WE GET THERE O YOU HAVE A CHANGE ORDER FOR HALF A MILLION. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SCOPE UP FRONT WHICH PRODMIRE DID.

>> THEY HAVE ADD-ONS. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE DEFINED AS MUCH AS PLANNING IN MY MIND BASED ON THEIR RESPONSE.

>> TO THAT I WOULD -- I WOULD ADD, THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS BUT YOU FIGURE THEY LOOKED AT THE PROJECT AND SCOPED IT OUT AND CAME IN AND PLAN'S NEXT ORIGINAL NUMBERS WERE 16 PERCENT, ALMOST DOUBLE BASICALLY WHERE PRODMIRE CAME IN.

68,000 DOLLARS IS NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THE TOTAL SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY'S BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, BUT 186 PERCENT IS A BIG NUMBER.

EVEN WITH AD-ONSS THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO ADD ON WITH ALMOST DOUBLE THE PRICE. I THINK AS A MATTER OF RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF -- THERE'S ALREADY BEEN SOME PUBLIC CHATTER ABOUT -- ABOUT WHY ISN'T THE CITY SPENDING THIS MONEY TO BEGIN WITH?

>> I WASN'T A PART OF THE SECOND FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION.

I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH POKEMIRE TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THEY HAD BROAD ENOUGH SCOPE.

I ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD -- WERE IN THEIR SCOPE SO IT COULD BE APPLES TO APPLES AND WHAT PLANNING WAS GOING TO BRING FORWARD. IT SEEMED LIKE POKEMIRE CAN -- CAN PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICES BUT IT WILL BE -- IT WILL BE -- I THINK AT -- ON THE DAY A SIMILAR COST.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE HAVE THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSALS AND ADD-ONS THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO BE.

>> MR. FOUST AND MR. SMITH, HELP ME.

I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS DECISION.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT PRECONCEIVED OUTCOME.

THAT'S -- WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. BUT FROM WHAT I HEARD YOU JUSTIFYING A PRECONCEIVED E - OUTCOME.

YOU WERE -- THEY WERE GIVING CONCRETE EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY WOULD DO GIVEN A SITUATION. HELP ME RECONCILE THOSE TWO

ARGUMENTS. >> ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WE GOT LAST WEEK THAT I CITED WERE -- WAS MORE -- WAS MORE -- MORE THEM PROVING THAT THEY WOULD PUT EDUCATION AND INFORMATION.- I DON'T THINK THAT THEM CITING THOSE IFFERENT WAYS OF APPROACHING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS A PRECONCEIVED NOTION.

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IT WAS HERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS -- HERE'S DIFFERENT SOURCES OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACTUALLY IS.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A MARKET BASED --

>> EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE FRONT END ABOUT WHAT THINGS ARE, WHETHER

THAT'S THE CITY -- >> WHAT I HEARD FROM MR. SMITH'S REMARKS WAS MORE A COMPLETENESS OF AN ANSWER, RATHER THAN KIND OF TOSSING UP A SOFTBALL.

THEY BASICALLY CAME IN AND -- IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WITH -- YEAH, IT DEPENDS. HERE ARE SOME POSSIBILITIES.

THAT O ME IS NOT A PRECONCEIVED NOTION.

THAT'S SHOWING THE RESOURCEFULNESS AND THE INTENT UPON BEING DIRECT AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

IT IS MORE BEHAVIORAL THING TO ME THAN IT IS THE CONTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD MR. SMITH

TALKING ABOUT. >> THEY WERE GOING TO PRODUCE A LAND USE DOCUMENT. THAT'S WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS. THAT'S WHAT THEIR EXAMPLES WERE.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN WITH THEM. NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T COMPETENT.

NOT THAT THEY COULDN'T DO IT BUT THEY DIDN'T QUITE GET WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. CONVINCE THEY THAT YOU WERE OF

THE PINION THAT THEY DO. >> HAD YOU LISTENED IN ON THE

REFERENCE CHECKS. >> I DID.

I WANT YOU TO CONVINCE ME. I WANT TO BE ONVINCED OF AN

OUTCOME. >> I THINK THE HARBOR PROJECT, THE DEPTH OF WHAT WAS DONE THERE GAVE ME COMFORT.

>> THAT WAS A DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENT, WAS IT NOT? THEY WERE HIRED TO REVITALIZE FOR WANT A BETTER TERM A

BLIGHTED USE. >> THEY WENT OUT AND GOT VOLUNTEERS AND DUCATED THEM AND PUT THEM IN MOTION MUCH LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO BASICALLY WHICH IS TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO THE PROCESS THAT THEY FOLLOWED TO ME IS -- WAS NICELY AKIN TO WHAT I THINK WE'RE GOING

TO BE TRYING TO DO HERE. >> HE WAS CRITICIZED BECAUSE HE AUTHORED A BRIEF IN THE U.S. SUPPORT THAT WAS DEFENDING OHIO'S BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. AND HE WAS LITERALLY -- HE AND HIS FAMILY BOTH WERE HUMILIATED DURING THE SENATE CONFIRMATION HEARINGS EVEN THOUGH HE WAS UNDER AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO ADVANCE THAT POSITION TO ESTABLISH THE POSITION TO HIS CLIENT. I THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S HOW -- THAT'S HOW A CONSULTANT CAN BE PAINTED REGARDLESS OF WHO IT IS, WHETHER THEY WE CALL IT ARLINGTON OR BEULAH AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY IN A LOT OF WAYS I THINK WE'RE OVERTHINKING THIS. THE MORE WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND THE MORE -- THE MORE -- THE MORE EMPHASIS WE PUT ON THE CONSULTANT, THE MORE WE'RE SELLING SHORT OUR CITIZENS.

I'VE SEEN THE ROSTER OF PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW OF MANY THAT WILL BE DOMINATED.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO STEP UP FOR THEMSELVES AND I THINK THEY'RE -- THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAD THE CONSULTANT. SO I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT IT GIVEN WHO WE'VE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE.

I ASKED A QUESTION, I'M ASSUMING GIVING FOR WHAT I HEAR FROM THE THREE OF YOU THAT -- THAT YOU ALL HAVE NOT -- ARE NOT OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION OR IS THE COMMITTEE OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DISCUSSED?

>> THREE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS OF THE COMPLEX CONVERSATIONS.

>> I'M HEARING TWO EANING ONE WAY AND ANOTHER APPEARS TO BE LEANING THE OTHER WAY. DID YOU HASH OUT YOUR

DIFFERENCES? >> OUR JOB WAS TO CHECK REFERENCES AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

>> TO YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION THAT SOUNDED ALMOST MORE LIKE A

STATEMENT. >> IT IS A PET PEEVE OF MINE.

I USE THIS TO ANNOUNCE MY PET PEEVE.

WHEN I HEARD ONE OF OUR FAIR SENATORS CRITICIZE MR. MURPHY'S CHILDREN IN THAT HEARING, IT JUST REALLY RANG HOME.

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I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. I HAVE ADVANCED POSITIONS WITH MY CLIENTS THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH.

>> WE'RE ALL AMUSED BY YOUR PET PEEVES, THANK YOU FOR THOSE.

IF YOU TAKE YOUR ARGUMENT TO THE EXTREME AND WE'RE OVERTHINKING THIS AND IT IS TRUE -- WE LOOKED AT A HALF OF DOZEN FOLKS THAT WOULD PROBABLY DO A GOOD JOB AT THIS THING.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, LET'S GET BACK TO BASIC MONEY AND IF IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WHY SPEND 68,000.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD ARGUE MONEY.

PRODMIRE IS GOING TO COST MORE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY LEFT.

I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK MISS KOWALCZYK IS CORRECT, I THINK THOSE NUMBERS WILL COME CLOSER.

I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST.

>> DOROTHY I THINK GOT SHORTED ON THAT ONE BUT YEAH.

>> FOR ME IT HAS TO BE RIGHT. DOING THIS.THE REASON WE'RE - WE CAN'T BLOW THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO BE PENNY WISE AND POUND FOOLISH ON THIS. THE FINANCIAL ARGUMENT IS

SIGNIFICANT TO ME. >> I WISH I COULD PULL UP THE WEB PAGE AND WHAT PLANNING HAS OUT THERE AND THE STATEMENTS ABOUT THEIR ALIGNMENT WITH WORTHINGTON AND WHOSE OUTLET AND MORPH CITY AND HONESTLY I THINK -- I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT US HAVING ENOUGH INPUT FROM THE LIKES OF -- OF REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE INPUT WE GET OR MAKING SURE WE GET ENOUGH INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO THAT IS WHY, AGAIN I LOOK TO THIS KIND OF BLANK SLATE, BASICALLY AN UNKNOWN ORGANIZATION FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT IS STILL HERE IN THE STATE OF OHIO THAT JUST HAS NO HISTORY

WITH US WHATSOEVER. >> WE HAVE A DISCUSSION

>> WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS NOT ORIGINAL BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE IT FOR THE RECORD. I'VE PREVIOUSLY EXPRESSED THIS AT LENGTH IN WRITING TO COUNCIL LEADERSHIP AND OUR CITY MANAGER AND BRIEFLY VERBALLY TO THIS BODY ITSELF SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

NAMELY THAT I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT HIRING PLANNING NEXT TO COORDINATE AND FACILITATE OUR COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESS WOULD BE INADVISABLE. BECAUSE BY DOING SO WE WOULD EXPOSE OURSELVES NEEDLESSLY AND ENVISIONING THE ROJECT ITSELF TO CRITICISM UNDERMINING OUR DESIRE TO CONDUCT A PROCESS THAT NOT ONLY YIELDS VALUABLE HEAL AND RECONCILE OUR RVES TO - COMMUNITY. I SAY THIS BECAUSE HIRING PLANNING NEXT, GIVEN THEIR HIGH-PROFILE ROLE IN FACILITATING THE NEW URBANISM IN ARLINGTON WE WOULD PROVIDE A READY HOOK FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SKEPTICAL ABOUT THEIR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO AND CAPACITY FOR CONDUCTING A TRULY UNBIASSED VISIONING PROCESS. I EMPHASIZE HERE THE POSSIBLE PERCEPTION. PERCEPTION, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANY OF US BELIEVE ABOUT THE ACTUAL CONDUCT BUT RATHER IT IS THE PERCEPTION SURROUNDING OUR CHOICE OF CONSULTANTS THAT I BELIEVE OUGHT TO BE AT THE CENTER OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS OF WHO WE HIRE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE OF OUR SHARED DESIRE THAT NOT ONLY THE PROCESS BE CARRIED OUT WITH THE IGHEST OF INTEGRITY BUT ALSO THAT THE PUBLIC PERCEIVES IT AS SUCH.

THIS IS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN THE INTEGRITY OF PROCESS AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IS ESSENTIAL, NOT OPTIONAL.

IF THE VISIONING PROCESS IS TO RESULT IN A WIDELY CCEPTED AUTHORITATIVE REPORT OF COMMUNITY SENTIMENT.

AUTHORITATIVE PRECISELY BECAUSE ITS INTEGRITY IS UNQUESTIONED.

SO WHY WOULD WE RISK CREATING DOUBT? I WOULD THINK THAT SENSITIVITY 3 TO PUBLIC PERCEPTION ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF PROCESS AND THE ROLE OF CONSULTANTS IN PARTICULAR WOULD BE ESPECIALLY KEEN AMONG US GIVEN THE SMKS PROCESS AND THE SUBSEQUENT CORRESPONDING LIFESTYLE OF 2015.

DIRECTLY O THIS POINT, ALTHOUGH THE CURRENT VISIONING PROCESS IS ALL ENCOMPASSING AND NOT SITE SPECIFIC WE AGREE ON THAT, THE PROCESS DID EMERGE AND REVOLVES AROUND ITS RECENT HISTORY.

THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS OF WORTHINGTON AND THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT DISTILLED IN THE PHRASE YOU'RE NOT LISTENING IS AT THE HEART OF WHAT WE WANT TO RECONCILE AND

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HEAL IN OUR CITY, IN PART THROUGH THIS VISIONING PROCESS.

LET US ACT ACCORDINGLY. I ENCOURAGE US TO HIRE A FIRM THAT SUPPORTS THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF ABSOLUTE INDEPENDENCE OF JUDGMENT AND ABSENCE OF BIAS AND NOT A FIRM THAT PLANTS EVEN THE SMALLEST SEED OF DOUBT SO AS TO NOT NEEDLESSLY EXPOSE US TO RISK OF PUBLIC DISSENSION UNDERPINING THE GOOD WORK WE'RE UNDERTAKING. I SUGGEST HIRING, NOT PLANNING NEXT, BUT ANY OF THE THREE FIRMS WE IDENTIFIED AND INTERVIEWED AND ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES HERE TO DO LIKEWISE.

>> I'M REALLY TAKEN ABACK BY THE PERCEPTION THAT BOTH THESE -- THESE FIRMS DON'T HAVE INTEGRITY IN WHAT -- WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING AND HAVE ALREADY EARNED THE PUBLIC'S TRUST I WOULD THINK BOTH OF THESE FIRMS HAVE THAT.

I -- I DO AGREE THAT -- THAT WE WANT TO HAVE -- THE PUBLIC'S TRUST THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I -- I AM STUNNED THAT THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH THAT ONE OF THESE GROUPS DOES NOT HAVE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND THEIR INTEGRITY IS BROUGHT INTO QUESTION. YEAH.

I'M PRETTY MUCH SPEECHLESS FROM THAT.

YES, I DO THINK WE HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS IN MIND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE DO WANT -- WE DO WANT A FAIR PROCESS THAT HAS AS MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT ANY PRE-- WITHOUT ANY SUPPOSED OUTCOMES. I'M DEFINITELY SADDENED THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE HO -- WHO ALREADY THINK WE GONE OFF THE RAILS WITH -- WITH THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND -- AND -- AND ARE CHOOSING COMPANIES THAT DON'T HAVE INTEGRITY.

>> JUST POINT OF CORRECTION, I CERTAINLY DID NOT SAY AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE HAD SAID THAT THE COMPANIES DON'T HAVE INTEGRITY. WHERE DID YOU -- WOULD YOU CARE

TO ELABORATE ON THAT? >> INTEGRITY IS UNQUESTIONED.

>> THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS IS UNQUESTIONED.

I'M REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO ALSO THE PERCEPTION AND I THINK THAT IS -- THAT IS A -- A VERY VALID -- I WOULD EVEN SAY CENTRAL CONSIDERATION OR US TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OUR DECISION.

I BELIEVE IF YOU SPEAK TO RESIDENTS IN OUR ITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG DEEP TO -- TO HEAR QUESTIONS ABOUT -- ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE 2013, 14, 15, TIME PERIOD AND QUESTIONING WHETHER -- WHAT WAS -- WHAT WAS PROMOTED, DISCUSSED ADVERTISED, WAS -- WAS -- WAS -- WAS -- WAS -- WHAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCED AND WHETHER THEY'RE IN FACT -- WHETHER THE PUBLIC PROCESS WAS CONDUCTED AND ITS NATURE WAS AS -- AS BILLED. I THINK WE NEED TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL THAT WE AVOID ANY RISKS THAT OUR DECISIONS AND THE CONDUCT OF THIS PROCESS CAN BE CRITICIZED ACCORDINGLY, WHETHER THERE'S MERIT TO IT OR NOT. MY POINT IS WHY IF -- IF WE HAVE TWO OR MORE FIRMS THAT ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, WHY WOULD WE CHOOSE THE ONE THAT IS MOST PROBLEMATIC IN THIS REGARD BECAUSE OF THEIR CENTRAL ROLE IN UPPER ARLINGTON.

THIS IS NOT JUST SPECULATION AT THIS POINT, I -- FOLLOWING THE INTERVIEW WITH PLANNING NEXT, I HAD TWO INDIVIDUALS THERE TALK TO ME ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF THE FIRM.

THIS IS NOT ABSURD OR IDLE, THE TIME ASKED, IT IS INCONCEIVABLE THAT WE WOULD CHOOSE A FIRM THAT POTENTIALLY WILL BECOME IDENTIFIED AS -- WITH ONE OR MORE OF THE CENTRAL ISSUES THAT ARE -- CONTENDED IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.

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I HAVE NO PREFERENCE FOR THE THREE.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. >> YOU TOLD ME WHY TO NOT VOTE FOR SOMEBODY BUT NOBODY SAID VOTE FOR THIS PERSON.

DON'T VOTE FOR THIS PERSON, IT NEVER WORKED FOR ME.

I DON'T THINK THAT PAINTING THE BRUSH THAT YOU PAINT IS VALID.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M GRASPING. I COULD GO EITHER WAY.

SOMEBODY CONVINCE ME WHO IS THE STRONGER CANDIDATE, NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY AREN'T BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY ARE.

>> A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD.

IN UPPER ARLINGTON, ONE COMMENT WAS -- WAS THEY DON'T COME IN AND SAY IT IS THE WAY IT IS GOING TO BE.

THERE WERE NO PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS.

THE FIRM DOES NOT EVER COME IN -- IT WAS EMPHASIZED AND SAY IT IS THE WAY IT HAS TO BE. INDIVIDUAL PROCESS OR COMMUNITIES, THE COMMITTEE HELPED I.D. THE ISSUES.

THERE WAS DURING THE DISCUSSIONS A MISTRUST OF STAFF AND PLANNING NEXT GUIDED THE DISCUSSIONS IN A WAY THAT THEY EARNED THE TRUST BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. THEY WORKED WITH COMMUNITIES OF ALL TYPES. THEY BROUGHT COMMUNITIES BACK TOGETHER AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT.

MY ARGUMENT WOULD BE THAT PLANNING HAS THE EXPERTISE TO DEAL WITH THIS PROJECT. EVERYBODY WE TALKED TO, THEY ASKED US WHAT IS YOUR PROJECT? WHAT IS THE END RESULT YOU WANT TO GET? WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH A CONCRETE ANSWER. WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENT'S INTERESTS ARE IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

WHAT DOES THAT RESULT I? MOST OF THESE PROJECTS, THERE WAS AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WERE GETTING AT THE END.

YOU NEED SOMEBODY THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND NIMBLE AND HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO OURS AND PRODUCE SOMETHING WE'RE HAPPY WITH. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S BAGGAGE BECAUSE OF WORK THAT PLANNING NEXT DID FOR A COMMUNITY WHOSE RESULTS SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. IT WAS VERY APPARENT DURING THE INTERVIEW THAT THIS WAS -- THIS WAS THE PATH THAT THE CITY CHOSE TO TAKE AND THEY NEEDED SOMEONE TO FACILITATE FURTHER FEAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND EXPRESS THE -- THE -- THE CURRENT RESULTS BEING HAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS TURNED OUT. I DON'T SEE THAT AS BAGGAGE.

THEY TOOK A SITUATION AND DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT. IN TERMS OF THE MASTER PLAN, I WOULD BE PROUD TO PUT THAT ON MY WEBSITE.

IT IS A VERY GOOD DOCUMENT. VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK AND I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB. I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE AS WELL FOR THEM TOUTING THAT. THEY WANT TO GET MORE WORK TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

THOSE ARE THOUGHTS IN MY MIND. WE ASKED THEM GIVE US COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO OURS AND SITUATIONS SIMILAR TO OURS AND THEY GAVE US HARBOR AND THE CITY OF WADSWORTH, NEITHER OF WHICH IS AS LARGE IN SCOPE. I'M CONCERNED THEY CAN'T MEET WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO. IN LOOKING AT THAT, I FEEL CONFIDENT PLANNING CAN DO THE JOB AND DO IT WITHOUT QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS.

I THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBER MYERS POINTED OUT THE VISION OF THE COMMITTEE S TO INSURE THAT THEY WILL OVERSEE THAT PROCESS AND HAVE BOUGHT INTO IT. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT THEY

WOULD BE THE ONES TO SPE >> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS OR PROJECT IS CALLED FOR UPPER ARLINGTON THAT PLANNING NEXT FACILITATED? ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC IN

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ARLINGTON WAS TOLD ABOUT THE PROCESS?

>> SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I MEAN -- THE ONE THAT PLANNING NEXT

FACILITATED. >> IT IS ONE BIG THING.

>>

>> THEY WERE FILED AND WITHDRAWN.

THERE WAS CONSENSUS REACHED IN UPPER ARLINGTON ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT WOULD GO FORWARD. THERE WAS ONCESSIONS MADE BY THE DEVELOPER THAT CAUSED THE PARTIES BEHIND THE REFERENDUM TO

WITHDRAW THEIR PETITIONS. >> MY QUESTION S THE PROCESS THAT PLANNING NEXT FACILITATED WAS THE PUBLIC IN UPPER ARLINGTON AND MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BUT WAS THE PUBLIC TOLD WE HAVE HIRED A FIRM TO FACILITATE A PROCESS WHERE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO BE REZONING AND FOCUSING ON DEVELOPMENT OR WAS IT DESCRIBED AS AN OPEN-ENDED PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK IS GOING TO BE DETERMINATIVE OR AT LEAST SIGNIFICANT IN SHAPING OUT --

>>

THEY WERE TOLD. >> YOU'RE IMPLYING THEY WERE MISLED. ON WHAT DO YOU SUPPORT THAT?

>> YOU'RE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

YES, YOU ARE. HANG ON A MOMENT.

THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT CAME NEXT, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR ROLE WAS AND DID THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THEMSELVES UNDERGOING.

THAT RELATES TO US HERE IN WORTHINGTON BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE 2013-14MKSK PROCESS IS PERHAPS INACCURATE.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT PROCESS WAS THAT WAS A PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THEY WOULD HAPE THE OUTCOME OF THE PLAN.

MAYBE THAT'S WRONG. MAYBE WE HIRE.

MAYBE WE HIRED MKSK TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT PLANNING X MAY HAVE DO NOT IN ARLINGTON WHERE THERE WAS AN INTENTION TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM TO HELP PRESENT, THINK THROUGH DETAILS OF A VISION FOR THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW. >> BRING ME BACK HERE.

>> I LOVE TO BRING YOU HOME. I SENSE YOU'RE NO MORE --

>> ALMOST THERE AND I JUST JUMPED SIDES.

I THINK I'M THE SWING VOTE HERE. >> YOU'RE NO MORE SATISFIED THAN 15 MINUTES AGO. I'M BACK TO PSYCH 101, ABSENCE OF A NEGATIVE IS NOT A POSITIVE. WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT --

>> YOU'RE ASKING ME -- >> NO, I'M NOT.

LET'S BRING THIS HOME. WE HAVE TWO FINE CONSULTING FIRMS HERE. EITHER ONE I THINK CAN DO THE JOB. IT COMES DOWN TO ME AND I THINK WHAT SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO SAY HERE IS BECAUSE THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR A PERCEIVED NEGATIVE, A PREALIGNMENT IF YOU WILL BETWEEN ONE OF THE TWO THAT THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T HAVE -- YOU COMMENTED I NAILED IT IN MY REMARKS ABOUT WHY WE'RE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF IT IS TO HAVE A PROCESS ABOVE REPROACH. I DIDN'T HEAR SUGGESTION OF LACK OF INTEGRITY. IT IS THE PERCEPTION OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS. SO IF WE'VE GOT ONE WHO -- WHO COMES IN AND -- AND -- AND HAS NO HISTORY WITH US AND HAS NO -- NOBODY HAS ANY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE CLEAR CHOICE ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL.

I THINK THEY PRETTY MUCH ARE. GO WITH THE ONE WITH YOU'RE NOT GETTING SET UP TO BE CRITICIZED, THEY DID THIS, THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE CITY. WHY SET YOURSELF UP FOR THAT

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CRITI CRITICISM?

>> MY ONLY COMMENT, KNOWLEDGEABLE AND FOR PURPOSES OF THIS ARGUMENT I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE BIAS.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR ARGUMENT IS, BIAS.

THEN I HAVE ANOTHER FIRM NO EVIDENCE OF BIAS WHATSOEVER BU I WALKED AWAY THINKING THEY WERE INCOMPETENT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET IT, WHAT WE WANTED. THEY HAD A COUPLE OF LAND USE PLANS THEY GAVE U. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED.

THAT'S MY FEAR IS THAT THEY DIRECT THIS COMMUNITY DOWN TO A -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'M JUST ASKING CONVINCE ME,

ANYBODY. >> I RAN THIS BY THE LEGAL

COUNSEL. >> YOU THINK TALKING TO A LAWYER IS GOING TO HELP YOUR ARGUMENT? I'M SORRY. YOU MAY AS WELL QUIT RIGHT NOW.

>> SORRY. SO I HAVE OCCASION TO WORK WITH POGMIRE IN MY DAY JOB. THEY'RE A LARGE RGANIZATION AND THEY DO HAVE BACKGROUND IN LAND USE DEVELOPMENT, ALSO IN DESIGN, BUILD, SO FORTH. THEY ALSO HAVE THIS ARM THAT DOES ACCOUNT OTREACH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WHAT I FOUND PERSONALLY AND -- AND ONE OF THEIR BRANCHES IS TO WORK WITH GRANT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

THAT DOESN'T RELATE TO THIS PROJECT.

I KNOW FROM WORKING WITH THEM IN THE PAST, IF AN OWNER LIKE A COMMITTEE, THAT'S THE VISIONING COMMITTEE IN THIS SENSE SAYS, HEY, I LIKE TO TRY THIS, AND IT WASN'T PART OF THEIR ORIGINAL SCOPE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AND HEY'RE GOING TO DO T AS A PART OF THE SCOPE. THEN IF THE COMMITTEE SAYS, WELL, WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE THIS AND WE REALLY WANTED THIS AND WE REALLY WANTED THIS. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT WITHIN THAT SCOPE.

I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS POGMIRE WILL OFFER MORE FLEXIBILITY AND INTERPERSONAL FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY APPROACH THE PROCESS AND THE OWNER IN THIS PROCESS, THE VISIONING COMMITTEE, WHEREAS YOU HAVE IN CONTRAST IN MY MIND A PLANNER FROM PLANNING NEXT. A NATIONALLY RENOWNED PLANNER WHO KNOWS HOW TO PLAN AND CAN STEER A COMMITTEE TOWARDS PLANNING. I JUST -- I HAVE A FEELING THAT WHEN YOU HAVE POGMIRE WHO HAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH RESOURCES AT HAND, INCLUDING DESIGNING AND LAND USE PLANNING.

>>

>> THEY PROBABLY HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW, 200, 250 EMPLOYEES.

>> I KNOW THEY

HAVE A COUPLE -- >> I GOT THE -- I GOT THE TWO FINALISTS, ORIGINAL PROPOSALS HERE.

I THINK I COULD ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

LET YOU TALK AMONG YOURSELF. >> YES.

>> OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT -- THAT -- THAT -- SO SOME OF THE -- OF THE -- OF THE NOTES ON THAT, THEY WERE -- PLANNING NEXT WAS OPEN TO IDEAS FROM COUNCIL AND STAFF AND PUBLIC AND NICE JOB GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION BACK FOR REVIEW.

WESTERVILLE SET THE DIRECTION. IT WAS -- IT WAS COMMUNITY VISIONING SO THEY HAD A PROJECT CALLED IMAGINE WESTERVILLE AND THAT WOULD BRING PEOPLE IN. IT SOUNDED A LOT LIKE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF CONSENSUS. THEY WERE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO COGNIZANT OF THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AND SO THEY UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS OF THAT.

THEY COULDN'T IDENTIFY WEAKNESSES.

IMPRESSED WITH THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND LIKED IT WAS MULTI-FACETED. THEY -- IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT.

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THEY LIKED EVERYTHING THEY DID ON THAT.

THEY APPRECIATED THEY PULLED IN BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS FROM

OTHER COMMUNITIES. >> I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY AND BASED ON THEIR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS.

I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM AND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM IS THAT -- THEY WILL -- THEY WILL -- IF -- IF YOU WALKED AWAY AS THEM BEING INCOMPETENT OR -- OR MAYBE NOT UP THE TO TASK I BELIEVE THAT THEIR PROCESS AND THEIR FACILITATOR ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY -- FLEXIBILITY FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT AND GET UP TO SPEED QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY IF THE OWNER UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

IT IS NOT AS RIGID AS WHAT I TAKE PLANNING NEXT PROCESS TO BE. THEY AS A FIRM AND THE PEOPLE WE

MET WITH ARE HIGHLY COMPETENT. >> THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION.

I KNOW WHEN I WAS AT THE INTERVIEWING I FELT THAT PLANNING NEXT NAILED IT WITH -- WITH WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND THEIR PROCESS ND HOW -- HOW IN-DEPTH IT WAS GOING TO BE, THEIR SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE REGION AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. I THOUGHT HAVING A NATIONALLY RENOWNED FIRM RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD WOULD BE AN ASSET.

POGMIRE DOES HAVE SOME SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF OHIO WITHOUT THE BREADTH OF -- THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE NATIONAL REACH WHICH

SEEMS LIKE -- YES. >> TO THAT POINT, THEY HAVE 11 OFFICES. THEY'RE IN LAS VEGAS AND RNO, NEVADA, MONROE, MICHIGAN, SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, THEY'RE NOT

JUST AN OHIO FIRM. >> THEY WEREN'T HIGHLIGHTING IT

FOR OUR APPLICATION. >> I THINK THEY -- HONESTLY, I THINK THEY CAME IN A LITTLE MORE UNTILIBLE WILLING TO LISTEN. AND MORE HUMBLE.

I DON'T FAULT THEM FOR THAT, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS. >> POD DESIGN.

>> DID THIS GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME STATEMENT AS IN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT. STILL LOOKING FOR IT.

>> COME BACK TOMORROW. >> NO, I WANT TO VOTE TONIGHT.

THIS HAS GONE ON WAY TOO LONG. IT IS TIME TO PUT A FORK IN THIS. IT IS DONE.

>> ONE CONCERN THAT YOU MADE WAS PODMIRE, THEY HAVEN'T DEALT WITH ITIES OUR SIZE. YOU KNOW, BEULAH IS A LARGE

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URBAN CITY AND WADSWORTH IS A LITTLE RURAL COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST -- THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN -- THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS DEALING WITH SOMETHING OUR SIZE AND SOMETHING

SIMILAR TO WHAT WHERE WE ARE. >> WHAT ARE WE HIRING? AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT ARE WE HIRING? SOMEBODY FROM -- SOMEBODY TO FACILITATE THE LISTING PROCESS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HIRING. I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS WHETHER YOU'RE DOING IT IN LOS ANGELES, CHICAGO, OR WADSWORTH.

WE'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS.

>> I THINK WE'LL ALL AGREE WITH THAT.

>> SITTING HERE, FLIPPING THROUGH THE PODMIRE BROCHURE.

ADAMS COUNTY, ANDTHENS, OTTAWA COUNTY, CARMEL HEIGHTS, TROY,

PAINSVILLE, HIERON, GALYAN. >> WHAT PROJECTS?

ALL COMPREHENSIVE PLANS? >> PRETTY -- YEAH.

BELLEVUE, AND TROY AND PAINVILLE WERE ALL COMP PLANSES AS WAS THE CITY OF ATHENS AND KNOX COUNTY AND ADAMS COUNTY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM PLAN. PARMA HEIGHTS.

JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE HERE.

>> I MOVE TO NOMINATE POGMIRE GROUP TO BE THE VISIONING

CONSULTANT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> OKAY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU MAKE THIS, THOUGH, WHAT WE DO NEXT AND CUSTOMARILY WHEN YOU PICK A CONSULTANT, YOU DIRECT STAFF TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR A CONTRACT.

I THINK THERE'S A DECISION FOR US TO DO THAT OR WHETHER YOU WANT -- WHAT -- WHAT ROLE THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PLAY IN THAT.

THEN I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> SHOULD WE -- SHOULD WE AMEND

THE MOTION? >> AUTHORIZING STAFF TO PROCEED

TO CONTRACTING WITH -- >> NEGOTIATED CONTRACT.

>> SELECTED FIRM. >> THAT'S WHAT SAID.

YEAH. >> THAT'S YOUR MOTION.

>> AND THEN -- THEN YOU'RE SECONDING THE REVISED MOTION.

>> I'LL SECOND MY REVISION TO HIS.

HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. MOTIONS ARE -- MOTION IS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT -- THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE

SECONDED. >> I LIKE A ROLL CALL.

>> OKAY. YEAH.

OKAY. MISS THRESS, PLEASE TAKE A ROLL

CALL. >> WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH POGMIRE.

NOW WE HAVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 32-2019, AMENDMENT TO ADJUST THE BUDGET BY PROVIDING FUNDS FROM THE FUND AND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD INTRODUCE TONIGHT AND WOULDN'T BE HEARD UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS ORDINANCE? WITH POGMIRE EING THE COMPANY. OKAY.

THAT'S -- THAT'S THAT. THAT GOES ON TO THE AGENDA, THAT GOES ON THE AGENDA FOR ALL RIGHT.- THANK YOU, FOLKS. GLAD TO HAVE THIS.

>> ON THE VISIONING, SORRY, MY MIC IS NOT ON, ON THE VISIONING COULD WE ALSO ASK STAFF TO SEE IF POGMIRE IS INTERESTED IN -- IN STARTING WORK ON FAITH WITHOUT THE CONTRACT BEING

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SIGNED? AT LEAST AN INITIAL SETUP MEETING OR WHATEVER IT IS. IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED.

>> I DO THINK THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN DOING SOME INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE. IT MAY BE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEET AND YOU ENGAGE WITH THEM.

GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.

THEY MAY WANT O SELECT A CHAIR. THOSE THINGS MAY HAVE INITIAL VALUE SO WE DON'T LOSE THE MONTH OF AUGUST.

POGMIRE MAY COME IN AND MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE AND NOT NECESSARILY ASK THEM TO DO PRELIMINARY WORK.

NOT NECESSARILY START CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS OR -- OR THEIR -- I'M TRYING TO RECALL THEIR INITIAL PHASE.

IT WAS AN ASSESSMENT PHASE. >> I THINK THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP LEAD THE COMMITTEE IN THE SENSE OF STRUCTURING THE FIRST MEETING. YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? DO YOU WANT TO COLLECT OFFICERS? WHAT ARE THE THINGS? I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME STRUCTURED -- SOME STRUCTURE FROM THE CONSULTANT TO THE VISIONING COMMITTEE FOR THAT FIRST MEETING.

I SEE HEADS SHAKING IN AGREEMENT.

IF THEY DO THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF WHAT -- WHAT -- BEFORE WE HAVE A FIRST MEETING IF THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME

STRUCTURE FOR IT. >> THEN I THINK -- I THINK THAT MIGHT REQUIRE MORE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK AND THEREFORE I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE ASKING THEM TO DO -- TO DO THAT.

SO. >> HELPS TO HAVE A FIRST MEETING UNLESS -- WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF FROM RUNNING IT UNLESS THE CONSULTANT IS THERE AT LEAST DOING SOMETHING. YOU MAY WANT TO ASK THEM IF THEY

HAVE THOUGHTS. >> WE'LL JUST ENGAGE WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND REPORT BACK.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO GET A MEETING GOING BUT WE ALSO -- IT NEEDS TO HAVE STRUCTURE AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE HE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF STRUCTURING THE FIRST MEETING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> THE ALTERNATIVE IS WE INTRODUCE IT FOR A SPECIAL MEETING DATE IN AUGUST.

I AGREE. THE MORE I'M ON THE COUNCIL, THE MORE I LIKE AUGUST. MR. GREESON, IF AFTER YOU TALK TO THEM, WE COULD SET UP A MEETING AT LATER TIME.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW. >> YES, MA'AM.

[9.A.II. Permission to Bid - Building Demolition & Site Remediation at 7200 Huntley Rd.]

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO PERMISSION TO BID, STAFF SEEKS PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE FORBID THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT, BUILDING DEMOLITION AT 72 HUNTLEY ROAD. MR. GREESON?

>> COULD YOU REVIEW THIS ITEM BRIEFLY.

>> THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT OUT TO BID, 7200 HUNTLEY ROAD IN ORDER TO -- TO PREPARE FOR THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT.

COLUMBIA GAS WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT PROPERTY THAT WE OWN FOR USE TO -- TO LAY DOWN MATERIALS AND -- AND WORK FOR THEIR -- FOR THEIR GAS LINE RELOCATION PROJECT.

THEY'LL NEED TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING CARPORT ND THE STRUCTURES AND ALSO THERE HAPPENS TO BE ASBESTOS IN THE BUILDING AND WE NEED TO REN REMEDIATE THAT AS WELL.

>> A MOTION JUST TO AUTHORIZE ARTSING FORBID.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. MR. MYERS? SECOND BY MISS DOROTHY. DISCUSSION.

SIGNIFY. YEA.

[9.A.III. Permission to Bid - Upper Rush Run Restoration]

OPPOSED. OKAY.

EXECUTIVE STAFF SEEKS PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE FORBID THE UPPER RUSH RUN RESTORATION PROJECT, MR. GREESON.

>> IN WHITING COULD YOU TOUCH ON THIS ONE AS WELL?

>> THIS IS PERMISSION TO BID ON THE RESTORATION FOR WORTHINGTON AND GALENA ROAD DOWN TO THE -- TO THE HIPERIAN PROPERTY.

MAKE THE FLOWS RUN BETTER AND PREPARATION FOR THE GATEWAY PROJECT AND GENERAL IMPROVEMENTS.

>> SECOND BY MR. ROBINSON. TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- ANY QUESTIONS?

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ALL IN FAVOR. YEA.

[10. Reports of Council Members]

OPPOSED. OKAY.

MR. GREESON, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO BRING UP?

>> THERE IS. WE'LL NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT LABOR RELATIONS MOMENTARILY.

BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU A REPORT OR TOUCH BASE QUICKLY ON THE POLICE BUILDING. AS YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD A GREAT REPORT BY MR. WHITED LAST WEEK THAT TALKED ABOUT OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY INITIATIVES. YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN STUDYING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH -- WITH ENERGY FFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT OUR BUILDINGS.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN VARIOUS PHASES, HVAC AND CONTROLS AND OTHER PROJECTS. ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS SCHEDULED FOR SIGNIFICANT HVAC WORK, AMONG OTHER THINGS, IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IN 2020 IS THE DIVISION OF POLICE BUILDING.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF SOME EMPLOYEE CONCERNS, WE -- WE RECENTLY HIRED ENVIRONMENTAL LABS TO EVALUATE THE BUILDING.

I BELIEVE I -- I -- I SENT SOME -- SOME A -- A LITTLE BIT F INFORMATION OUT O YOU RECENTLY. THEIR PH.D. MIKE BIOLOGIST AND INDUSTRIAL HYGIENIST CONDUCT EVALUATION.

WHAT THEY FOUND IN THE BUILDING IS THE BUILDING HAS INCREASED HUMIDITY. THAT WAS ONE THING SOUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE HVAC PROJECT SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT ELEVATED LEVELS OF HUMIDITY AND SLIGHTLY ELEVATED LEVELS OF DEBRIS IN MOLDS. THEY INFORMED US AND I WOULD INVITE MR. STEWARD OR MR. WHITE TO JUMP IN IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING. THEY INFORMED US WE SHOULDN'T BE ALARMED BUT WE SHOULD TAKE EFFORTS TO LOWER HUMIDITY LEVELS, TO ADVANCE HVAC IMPROVEMENTS AND THEY GAVE US SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT REGARD.

AND TO CONDUCT SOME ENHANCED LEVELS OF CLEANING.

I WANTED TO SPEND A MINUTE TELLING YOU HOW WE'RE -- WE'RE WE -- WE -- I SHOULD SAY, WE FOLLOWED UP THAT INITIAL EVALUATION BY SOME FURTHER EVALUATION DONE BY THE INDUSTRIAL HYGIENIST AND ENVIRONMENTAL LABS.

WE CARE GREATLY ABOUT THE PLACES OUR EMPLOYEES WORK.

WE WANT TO REPORT ON HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND AND TO RESPOND TO THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. FIRST WE PLACED SOME LARGE DEHUMIDIFIERS THAT ARE OPERATING THROUGH THE BUILDING THAT WAS THE FIRST STEP THAT THE SPECIALIST REQUIRED TO BRING DOWN HUMIDITY. SECOND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH -- WITH -- WITH ELECTING A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST US IN THE HVAC DESIGN. WE HAVE THEM ON BOARD THROUGH THE PROJECT TO HELP US WITH EXECUTION.

WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A SPECIALTY ENGINEER TO ASSIST US WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ALONG WITH ABM.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT SELECTION PROCESS NOW AND PLAN TO OVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF THE HVAC PROBLEM.

WE RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE THAT PROJECT UP FROM 2020 TO AS SOON THIRD WE HAVE BEGUN PERFORMING SOME ENHANCED CLEANING.

WE'LL DO MORE BOTH PRE- AND POST-VAC PROJECT.

WE WILL MEET WITH SUPERVISORS TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND SHARE UPDATED REPORTS AND TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

THEN WE PLAN ON FOLLOWING THAT SUPERVISOR MEETING UP WITH -- WITH -- WITH MEETING -- MEETING WITH EMPLOYEES TO SHARE THE REPORTS WITH THEM AND DISCUSS IN DETAIL WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD. BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE GOING TO DRESS THE ISSUES THAT HAVE -- HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE

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SPECIALISTS WE HIRED AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT -- THAT -- THAT -- THAT -- THAT WE'LL -- WE'LL SUCCESSFULLY DO THAT.

MR. WHITED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> YOU SUMMARIZED IT WELL. I THINK ONE THING TO MENTION IS THE DEHUMIDIFIERS ARE WORKING EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

IT MAINTAINS A HEALTHIER ENVIRONMENT AND THEY'RE

FUNCTIONING QUITE WELL. >> AFTER THIS IS DONE, WE'LL TEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM A SAFE SPACE FOR

THEM TO WORK? >> IT WILL MOST DEFINITELY DO THAT. WITH WE -- WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE INSTALLING THE SYSTEM AND WE'LL DO IT IN ZONES AND CLEAN BEHIND THE ZONES AND HAVE THEM TESTED AS WE CLEAN THEM AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WE PROCEED THROUGH THE PROJECT.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATE. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES HEALTH AND SAFETY IS BEING VERY ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED AS ADEQUATELY AS E CAN. HEY, ANYTHING ELSE MR. GREESON?

>> JUST REQUEST FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LABOR RELATIONS.

>> MRS. THRESS, ANYTHING? >> NOTHING.

>> ROBINSON? >> NOTHING.

>> SMITH? >> FRIENDLY REMINDER TO STAFF,

A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. >> MR. MYERS.

MS. DOROTHY. KOWALCZYK.

[12. Executive Session]

I HAVE NOTHING. WE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, FOR THE PURPOSES OF LABOR RELATIONS, UNION NEGOTIATION.

MISS THRESS, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL, WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE

SESSION. >> MYERS, ROBINSON.

KOWALCZYK, DOROTHY, FOUST, SMIT

[13. Motion to Recess and Adjourn]

>> BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, MR. MYERS MOVE WE ADJOURN.

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