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[1. Call To Order]

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M GOING TO CALL THE SEPTEMBER 9, MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

MS. THRESS, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? WILL EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR

ALL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PLEASE BE SEATED. WE HAVE HAD NOBODY REGISTERED

[5.A. Ordinance No. 37-2019 Collective Bargaining Agreement with FOP Capital City Lodge #9]

FOR VISITOR COMMENTS. WE'LL GO TO NEW LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCED. ORDINANCE 37- COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH FOP CAPITAL CITY LODGE #9 APPROVING THE PROVISIONS OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, OHIO AND THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, CAPITAL CITY LODGE NO. 9 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGE TO EXECUTE SAME ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

2019 INTRODUCED FOR HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13, INTRODUCED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER 16, INTRODUCED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. MOVING ONTO THE REPORTS OF CITY

[6.A.I. Community Grants]

OFFICIALS, COMMUNITY GRANTS, MRO GET US STARTED?

>> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMBERD COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TOPIC.

YOU WILL RECALL RECENTLY YOU ASKED AND IT IS GENERALLY OUR CUSTOM SOMETIME THIS TIME OF YEAR BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM WHETHER YOU WANT ANY CHANGES TO THE PROCESS AND PRIORITIES AND APPROACH THAT WE USE TO CONSIDER THE SPECIAL GROUPS THAT REQUEST COMMUNITY GRANTS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. AND SHE'S GOING TO OVERVIEW OUR GRANT PROCESS AND HELP WALK YOU THROUGH THE MATERIALS YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THIS WAS REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JULY, PRIOR TO THE RECESS.

THAT WE BRING BACK THIS DOES ABOUT GRANTS FOR NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO KIND OF GROUPINGS OF GRANTS THAT ARE PROVIDED.

THE LARGER GRANTS PROVIDED FOR THE MCCONNELL ART CENTER AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. OTHERWISE, WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO INCORPORATE THEM IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. THERE IS APPLES SMALLER AMOUNTS GIVEN TO ABOUT A DOZEN NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY EACH YEAR. AND THOSE ARE OFTEN AWARDED IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, ALTHOUGH THE TOTAL AMOUNT AVAILABLE FOR THE PROGRAM IS USUALLY DECIDED AS PART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET. IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET ARE THE MATERIALS FROM THIS YEAR, THE 2019 GRANT PROGRAM.

THEY OUTLINE THE PRIORITIES THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS SET FOR THE PROGRAM FOR T THIS YEAR AS WELLS THERE IS A SCORING MATRIX USED BY THE SCORING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVED, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THE BROADER SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SOME OF THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT ARE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. REALLY, JUST PRESENT IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS RELATED TO THE GRANT PROGRAM. AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE BEING A NEWER COUNCILMEMBER, IS JUST KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM, WHY WAS IT INSTITUTED, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN IN PLACE AND THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE FOR DISTRIBUTION LEAVING ASIDE THE LARGER GRANTS, HAS THE AMOUNT KIND OF STAYED

THE SAME OR HAS THE FLUCTUATED? >> YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH THE ORIGINAL ORIGINS FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 11 YEARS. THERE WERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF GROUPS FUNDED YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT WHEN I GOT HERE.

THOSE ALLOCATIONS HAD BEEN KEPT FAIRLY FLAT ONCE WE WENT INTO THE RECESSION AND THE CITY'S REVENUES WERE TIGHTER WE SET FLAT AMOUNTS AND THE GROUPS REQUEST THOSE EACH YEAR.

I WANT TO SAY THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO OPEN UP APPLICATIONS AND THE PROCESS WAS REVAMPED AND LOOKS MORE LIKE IT DOES TODAY WITH THOSE CHANGES MADE A FEW YEARS AGO. THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THESE SMALLER GRANTS HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY.

I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC HISTORY ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT

THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED. >>

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HAD -- INSTITUTED THE BED TAX. IT WAS 75, 76% OF BED TAX WELL INTO CONTENTION VISITOR BUREAU. THE REMAINING PORTION WAS SET ASIDE TO FUND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.

THE DOLLAR FIGURE WAS ORIGINALLY SET BASED ON THE 25% OF THE BED TAX THAT WAS THERE. SINCE WE NO LONGER HAVE A COMMISSION VISITOR BUREAU, WE DON'T AVE HOTELS OPEN OR VIRTUALLY VERY LITTLE IF ANY, JUST THE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD.

WE'VE REVAMPED THE PROGRAM AND THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE EXISTING, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND.

MR. FOUST. >> D. FOUST: THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. WHEN APPLICANTS APPROACH THE CITY, ARE THEY MADE AWARE EXACTLY OF THE SCORING MATRIX

ITSELF? >> AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PACKET THE SCORING MATRIX IS IS INCLUDED.

WHEN THEY GET THE PACKETED THEY GET THE COVER LETTER AND THE ACTUAL APPLICATION DOCUMENT ITSELF AND THE SCORING MATRIX.

>> D. FOUST: THANK YOU, THE REASON I ASKED, I GUESS I'M GLAD HTAT HAPPENS. IT SEEMS FROM 18-19 WE START SO SEE A MINOR UPTICK IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS REQUESTED.

I HATE TO SET EXPECTATIONS WE MAY NOT -- MANAGE THOSE EXPECTATIONS, IF I SEE I'M IN THE RIGHT-HAND COLUMN FOR SEVERAL ITEMS, I WOULDN'T HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS.

I'M GLAD THAT IS DONE THAT WAY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB

INSON. >> D. ROBINSON: IS THERE A REASON THE SMALLER GRANTS ARE NOT ISSUED UNTIL FIRST QUARTER WHICH WOULD SEEM TO MAKE IT NOT AS USEFUL TO THE RECIPIENTS AS IF IT WAS AWARDED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER AND DELIVERED JANUARY 1

OF THE NEW YEAR? >> IT IS A PROCESS WITH TRYING TO GET THROUGH THERE BUDGET. CITY STAFF TENDS TO BE PRETTY ACTIVE AND ENGAGED IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, TRYING TO GET THE BUDGET DONE AND ADOPT IT. ONCE IT'S ADOPTED WE KNOW THE AMOUNT, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, USUALLY DISTRIBUTED IN JANUARY.

BY THE TIME WE GIVE THEM A TIME PERIOD TO COMPLETE THOSE AND THE REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS DONE THEIR WORK, IT'S USUALLY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER, MARCH BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IS ACTING ON IT.

IT'S WAITING TO GET THE BUDGET ADOPTED AND DONE AND THEN MOVE

INTO THE GRANT PROGRAM. >> D. ROBINSON: THE TOTAL AMOUNT ONCE THE BUDGET IS PASSED? YEAH?

>> YES, THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

>> D. ROBINSON: I WANT TO SUGGEST WE CONSIDER PERHAPS MAKING THE DECISIONS IN DECEMBER IN THE SPIRIT OF THE HOLIDAYS AND ANNOUNCE THE AWARDS IN DECEMBER SO THAT THE RECIPIENTS CAN INCLUDE IT IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR.

>> AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE IMPACT IS ON THE ORGANIZATIONS, SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE SUMMER TO SUMMER FISCAL YEAR.

SO THEY ARE NOT ALL ON THE CALENDAR FISCAL YEAR.

IT VARIES, WHEN I TALK TO ORGANIZATIONS AS TO WHERE THIS

FALLS WITHIN HEIR FISCAL YEAR. >>

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: FROM TIME TO TIME WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THEM COME IN, WE WOULD HEAR A PRESENTATION AS TO HOW OUR DOLLARS WERE BEING USED AND THE IMPACT AND THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE

APPLICATION PROCESS? >> THE APPLICATION ASKS FOR MEASURES FOR THEIR PROGRAM SUCCESS WE ASK WHAT MEASURES THEY WILL TRACK. AND THEN WE HAVE THEM GIVE A YEAR-END REPORT AS TO HOW HEY UTILIZE THE FUNDS AND ASK THEM TO REPORT ANY MEASURES THEY IDENTIFIED IN THEIR APPLICATION.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THE YEAR-END REPORT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ASSUME WE STAY WITH THE SAME PROCESS AND HAVE A COMMITTEE. MR. FOUST, DO YOU HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE SO YOU CAN SEE IF THEY MET THEIR EXPECTATIONS?

>> D. FOUST: WELL, YOU MAY REMEMBER, I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT WAS MY HAZING, COURTESY

OF -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I KNOW IT

USUALLY GOES TO THE NEW GUY. >> D. FOUST: I THINK YOU BOOTED

ME OFF, LAST YEAR, SCOTT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: DO YOU HAVE

THE MEASURABLES? >> YES.

THE CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY ASK FOR A NEW GRANTS THE NEXT YEAR.

THE OTHER CONCERN, OR SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS LOOKING AT WE DO HAVE MORE PEOPLE, MORE ORGANIZATIONS APPLYING.

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OF COURSE, THE ASK IS HIGHER. BECAUSE THE NEED IS ALWAYS THERE. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE AND LOOKING AT THE SIZES OF SOME OF THE GRANTS, WE REALLY DO WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.

BUT JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE FROM ALL OF YOU HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT LOOKING AT THE LAST SET OF AMOUNTS, WE WANTED TO BE FAIR AND DETERMINE WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE.

AND I THINK I REMEMBER WHAT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE WERE FUNDED THROUGH THE ORGANIZATIONS. SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THEY ARE DOING. BUT JUST INTERESTED IN FEEDBACK AND WHAT YOU THINK. I THINK HAVING A CONNECTION TO THE PROGRAMS AND PROVIDING CITY SUPPORT IS IMPORTANT.

BUT THEN, IS IT ORTH GOING THROUGH ALL THE WORK FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO GET SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY? JUST SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN FEEDBACK HAVING GONE THROUGH

THIS TWICE NOW. >> I DO SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ALL THE WORK IT TAKES TO MOVE FLEW THIS PROCESS. I KNOW WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, ACTUALLY, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DEFINITELY PUSHED TO STOP HAVING THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE GET THE EXACT SAME MONEY.

I'M DEFINITELY SENSITIVE TO THIS SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT WE DIDN'T OPEN UP TO MORE PEOPLE.

BUT WHEN YOU OPEN UP TO MORE PEOPLE THERE IS MORE THINGS YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. AND ONE OF THEM IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WHAT IS THE OVERALL IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT DOES SEEM THAT SOME OF THESE FUNDS ARE NOMINAL BUT IT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MPACT AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MEASURE THIS AND WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAVE. AND SO THIS IS QUITE A TOUGH SITUATION THAT I DEFINITELY HELP US GET INTO.

I'M HAPPY WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM. THAT WE DO HAVE SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS DOING SUCH GREAT WORK IN WORTHINGTON THAT WE CAN HELP SUSTAIN THEM IN WORTHINGTON.

BUT THERE IS QUITE A NEED. I'M GRASPING FOR WHAT WE CAN DO TO THIS. I KNOW WHAT THE MEASURABLES ARE.

I GUESS HOUSE DO WE DEFINE THE IMPACT THAT THIS EFFORT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

>> GOVERNING, I GUESS, PRINCIPLE OR IDEA WE WANT TO PROVIDE SEED MONEY OR ONGOING SUPPORT OR BOTH?

>> IT'S DIRECT SERVICE. LIKE MEALS.

IS SERVING WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS.

>> LYING SEEM WAS PROTECTING A VULNERABLE POPULATION, WHETHER IT'S CHILDREN OR ELDERS OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK INVOLVED HERE.

I'M GUESSING MANY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE PROBABLY ACCUSTOMED TO GRANT WRITING AS IT IS.

THEY MAY NOT BE BUILDING WHAT THEY ARE SENDING FROM SCRATCH.

THEY ARE DOING IT YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND APPLYING FOR OTHER GRANTS AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN UNREASONABLE ASK FOR THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I KNOW MR. ROBINSON RAISED SOMETHING PROCEDURE. OUR SCORE, GRANT PROGRAM SCORING, SCORING MATRIX, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES PEOPLE WANT TO

MAKE? >> D. FOUST: I LIKE THE PROCESS.

I'M HAPPY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THE MONEY.

I THINK IT'S WELL-DIRECTED. AND MR. ROBINSON, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT SO.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WE CAN GET THE APPLICATIONS OUT NOW SO WE HAVE SOME DECISIONS MADE AT BUDGET TIME SO WE'RE DISBURSING THE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR INSTEAD OF ALMOST SECOND QUARTER I THINK THIS PAST YEAR.

I THINK WE KIND OF TOOK THAT TO HEART.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE GETTING STARTED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE THE COMM COMMITTEE? COMMITTEE.

>> R. DOROTHY: DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT?

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INCREASE, BASE IT ON A PERCENTAGE?

>> GO AHEAD. >> ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT THE AMOUNT BEING ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THREE YEARS, WE FUNDED 60 TO 75% OF THE REQUEST FOR EACH REQUEST.

ONE OFFS BUT MORE OR LESS CONSISTENTLY 75%.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE WHOLE BUDGET. IT'S HARD TO SAY DO WE WE NEEDO INCREASE IT, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY BUDGET DOCUMENTS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PITCH. ANY AMOUNT WOULD PROBABLY BE WELCOMED. I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

EVEN IF IT'S A COUPLE MORE THOUSAND DOLLARS, THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD IDEAS THAT MONEY AND THINK IT WOULD

HELP TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE. >>

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALTERNE BUDGET?

>> M. GREESON: CERTAINLY, WE CAN PRESENT ALTERNATIVES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT ABOUT THE GRANT MATRIX? ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE GRANT MATRIX? EVERYBODY OKAY WITH T? OKAY.

COMMITTEE, WE WANT TO -- COMMITTEES, ANYBODY WANT TO KEEP THE SAME COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> M. GREESON: YOU WANT US TO -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS:

>> WILLING IF REELECTED. IT MIGHT BE A TIMING ISSUE.

MATTER WHAT --

>> D. SMITH: IF WE CAN DO IT BY DECEMBER.

YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S

JUST THE TWO OF YOU, RIGHT? >> D. FOUST: SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO

GET PUT ON. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SO BY CONSENSUS, DOES THE COUNCIL AGREE TO HAVE MS. KOWALCZYK AND MR. SMITH SERVE AS THE COMMITTEE FOR THE SCREENING OF THE COMMUNITY GRANTS? MR. GREESON?

>> M. GREESON: YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, THE GRISWOLD CENTER AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION THAT SERVE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THE COUNCIL CHOICES AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ADDING THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.

>> D. SMITH: I'LL PUT A NUMBER, 40,000 IS THE REQUEST I WOULD

HAVE AS COMMITTEE MEMBER. >> MR. BARTTER, IS MY MATH CORRECT, THE 33,000 IS YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY ONE-TENTH OF 1% OF THE GENERAL REVENUE ANNUALLY?

>>

>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE IN CASE BETH OR DOUG ARE TIED UP WHEN A GROUP IS MEETING, I COULD AT THE LAST MINUTE SHOW UP AS AN ALTERNATE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MR. FOUST? HEARING NONE, Y YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE COMMUNITY GRANTS?

>> CAN I -- I HAVE A QUESTION. THE OVERALL PRIORITIES DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SAME, THE BASIC HUMAN NECE NECESSITIES, MENTAL

HEALTH, AND A -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DOES ANYBODY HAVE CHANGES THEY WANT TO MAKE? NOT HEARING ANY, YES, WE'LL KEEP IT.

>> DID YOU PREFER WE GET APPLICATIONS OUT THIS FALL BEFORE WE KNOW THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE?

>> MUCH TOTAL MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR A FRAME OF REFERENCE.

WE WILL BE SILENT ON THAT THEN. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IN HE PREVIOUS YEAR, THIS IS HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE IS A REFERENCE

POINT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

[6.A.II. Financial Report - July & August 2019]

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ONTO THE FINANCIAL REPORT. MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: MR. BARTTER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THE JULY AND AUGUST FINANCIAL REPORTS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR AUGUST, WE HAVE ALLEN ABOUT $200,000 UNDER OUR PROJECTED INCOME TAX COLLECTION. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR OF OUR LAST FIVE MONTHS HAVE BEEN UNDER 2018 COLLECTIONS.

SOME OF OUR TOP EMPLOYERS ARE DOWN FROM PRIOR YEARS.

IT'S A SITUATION THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

BUT I WANT TO NOTE THAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY

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QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MR. ROBINSON MOVES WE ADOPT THE FINANCIAL REPORTS, SECONDED BY MR. FOUST, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

WE HAVE NOW APPROVED THE FINANCIAL REPORTS.

[6.B.I. City Council Rules - Organizational Meeting]

MR. GREESON, LET'S MOVE ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL RULES DISCUSSING THE ORDER AND MANAGEMENT OF OUR ORGANIZATION MEETING THAT IS HELD ON THE FIRST OF JANUARY AFTER AN ELECTION.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEU ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED THIS ISSUE AS ONE YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS IN YOUR COUNCIL RETREAT EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND WE SCHEDULED IT TO BE BROUGHT BACK IN SEPTEMBER. MS. THRESS AND MR. LINDSEY ND OTHER MEMBERS ON STAFF DID RESEARCH LOOKING AT OTHER COMMUNITIES, HOW THEY HANDLE THE PROCESS OF ICKING THEIR MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT PRO TEM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS.

AND OF COURSE, NOT EVERY COMMUNITY OES IT EXACTLY THE SAME. BUT WE'VE PREPARED SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR DISCUSSION.

AND MR. LINDSEY IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. AS MR. GREESON INDICATED THIS WAS A RETREAT ISSUE. WE LOOKED AT T AT A STAFF.

I WOULD SAY FIRST NOTE THAT THE CHARTER DOES NOT SPECIFY A SPECIFIC PROCESS FOR YOU TO USE DURING YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS T THAT MEETING, YOU ARE TO ELECT A PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL, THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM AS WELL AS THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR.

SO THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT. IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT YOU SHALL DETERMINE YOUR ROLE DOING THIS PROCESS IS ENTIRELY WITHIN YOUR OWN CONTROL.

BY CODIFIED ORDINANCE YOU HAVE ADOPTED THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS TO APPLY WHEN COUNCIL HASN'T USE DETERMINED BY ORDINANCE OR OTHERWISE A PARTICULAR PROCEDURE.

THAT IS THE FALL-BACK POSITION AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE FRAMEWORK UNDER WHICH YOU ARE OPERATING. AS INDICATED IN THE MEMO, THE REQUEST OF WHO ACTUALLY RUNS THE MEETING, THAT VARIES BY COMMUNITY. SOME WILL HAVE THE WHOEVER THE CURRENT COUNCIL PRESIDENT OR CHAIR OF THE BODY WOULD RUN THAT. THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE PAST. OTHERS HAVE THE CLERK OF COUNCIL RUN THE MEETING. SOME HAVE THE LAW DIRECTOR RUN THE MEETING. THAT WOULD BE MY LEAST FAVORITE CHOICE PERSONALLY. CERTAINLY WILLING TO SERVE IF CALLED TO DO SO. THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER TO RUN THE MEETING. I'M SURE THAT MS. THRESS AND MRE MY SENTIMENTS, PERHAPS NOT. COUNCIL CLERKS ARE ONES WHO ARE INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE RUNNING OF THE MEETING.

I MIND NOTE IN MY OWN PITCH OF THAT, THAT AS THE LAW DIRECTOR, I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF ADVISING YOU DURING THAT PROCESS, SO IT MAY BE EASIER IF I'M NOT IN CASE THE TEMPORARY CHAIR HAS A QUESTION, I WOULDN'T WANT TO ASK HE QUESTION OF MYSELF OR LEAVE THAT SITUATION. NONETHELESS, THAT IS AN AREA OF DISCUSSION YOU CAN HAVE AS TO WHO MIGHT CHAIR THE MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. IN TERMS OF THE OATH OF OFFICE AND ROLL CALL, TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE HAD A ROLL CALL, YOU DO BY YOUR COUNCIL RULES PROVIDE A GENERAL AGENDA OF MEETINGS, WHICH NORMALLY HAS THAT ROLL CALL AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

THE THOUGHT BEING OF DOING THE OATH IS THAT THE OATH IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THAT PERSON TAKING ACTION AS A NEW COUNCIL PERSON. WE DID THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE PERSON SWORN IN BEFORE THE ACTUAL CALL OF THE ROLL. YOU COULD HAVE THAT, THE SWEARING IN ACTUALLY OCCUR PRIOR TO THE MEETING ITSELF.

TRADITIONALLY A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DO IT AT THE MEETING, SIMPLY ECAUSE THAT IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY FOR WHATEVER CEREMONY THAT THAT NEWLY-ELECTED COUNCILMEMBER DESERVES. THE QUESTION OF CONSIDERING WHO MIGHT BE NOMINATED AND THE SELECTION OF THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT AS WELL AS THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE

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RESPONSIBILITY TO ELECT, THOSE COULD OCCUR IN TERMS OF PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BY BOTH STATE LAW AND BY OUR OWN CODIFIED ORDINANCES.

THE SELECTION OR APPOINTMENT OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL IS AN APPROPRIATE SUBJECT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AS YOU KNOW, FROM PRIOR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, NO FORMAL ACTION CAN BE TAKEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.

I WOULD NOTE THAT. AND THEREFORE, THE ACTUAL NOMINATION AND VOTING AND SELECTION OF HE COUNCIL PRESIDENT WOULD OCCUR IN THE OPEN SESSION, NOT IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION COULD OCCUR AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING ITSELF. AND WOULD BE AN EARLY ITEM ON THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THE TEMPORARY CHAIR IN TERMS OF THE ROLL CALL AND THE MOTION BEING MADE BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, NOT BE THE CHAIR ITSELF.

THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IF THERE WAS INTEREST IN DOING THAT PROCESS WOULD BE TO DO IT AT A DECEMBER MEETING AFTER YOUR NEWLY-ELECTED COUNCILMEMBERS, AFTER THE ELECTION HAS OCCURRED AND THEREFORE YOU KNOW WHO WILL BE SERVING ON COUNCIL IN JANUARY, YOU COULD HAVE THOSE MEMBERS IF THEY ARE NOT CURRENT INCUMBCUMBENTS INVITED TO THE DECEMBER MEETING AND THE COMPEEXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S A DISCUSSION POINT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, WHETHER THAT WOULD PROVIDE A FORUM IN WHICH ALL OF COUNCIL COULD OPENLY AND HONESTLY SHARE THOUGHT ABOUT VARIOUS CANDIDATES. THE DISCUSSION COULD ALSO AND APPROPRIATELY WOULD OCCUR BOTH IN THE OPEN SESSION.

BUT IT AVOIDS THE POSSIBILITY OF MUCH LIKE WITH OTHER APPOINTMENTS WE DO THAT DISCUSSION OCCUR AT LEAST OFFICIALLY, NOT IN A PUBLIC FORUM OR THE EMBARRASSMENT OR OPENNESS OF THE FRANK DISCUSSION IF WARRANTED.

THE ACTUAL ROCESS THEN OF ELECTION ONCE IN OPEN SESSION, THE NOMINATIONS WOULD OCCUR. THERE IS A COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS. ONE IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT NOMINATIONS TO REQUIRE A SECOND. EXCUSE ME.

ROBERT'S RULES DOES NOT REQUIRE A SECOND FOR NOMINATIONS.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR SECONDS TO OCCUR, SOMETIMES MORE THAN ONE SECOND TO SHOW SUPPORT. BUT THAT WOULD BE A DECISION COUNCIL WOULD MAKE AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO REQUIRE A SECOND SO AS TO NOT HAVE NOMINATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MORE THAN ONE PERSON. ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED TO NOMINATIONS IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD WANT TO ALLOW SELF-NOMINATIONS. ROBERT'S RULES -- DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT. HOWEVER, BY ROBERT'S RULES YOU ARE NOT LIMITED TO VOTING ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOMINATED.

QUITE FRANKLY, YOU COULD VOTE FOR ANYONE OF YOURSELVES, REGARDLESS OF HETHER NUMB NOMIN. IN THAT REGARD, I WOULD SAY ROBERT'S DOES NOT PROHIBIT A VOTING FOR YOURSELF,

EXPRESSLY -- >> HOW MUCH ARE WE BOUND BY

ROBERT'S RULES? >> YOU ARE ONLY BOUND TO THE EXTENT YOU WANT TO BE BOUND. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO FALL THEM. ROBERT'S RULES WAS ORIGINALLY FORMULATED FOR LARGE PARLIAMENTARY SOCIETIES.

THERE ARE SOME WHO SUGGEST THAT IT'S APPLICATION TO SMALL LEGISLATIVE BODIES IS LESS THAN PERFECT.

-- ITS APPLICATION. NONETHELESS THERE ARE A LOT OF COUNCILS THROUGH THE THE COUNTRY THAT FOLLOW IT BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WELL-RECOGNIZED SET OF RULES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HEARD YOU EARLIER.

IF WE HAVE NOT OTHERWISE CHOSEN A PROCESS, THE FALL BACK IS ROBERT'S RULES. IF WE HAVE CHOSEN ANOTHER PROCESS WE CAN DETERMINE OUR OWN PROCESS AS A COUNCIL.

>> CORRECT. IN LIGHT OF HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, IF COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT A PROCEDURE FOR THIS ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, CLARIFY AS MANY OF THOSE POINTS SO YOU KNOW GOING IN CLEARLY WHAT PROCESS YOU ARE FOLLOWING.

AND PROCEDURALLY, YOU ARE FOLLOWING IT.

>> WHERE DO WE NOTE THE PROCESSES FOR COUNCIL?

>> WE HAVE COUNCIL RULES, WHICH WERE ADOPTED A SIGNIFICANT TIME PERIOD AGO. MS. THRESS, COULD PERHAPS --

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>> START WITH THE RETREAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE OF

OUR RETREATS. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE AT THE TAIL-END OF THE DISCUSSION. STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE ORGANIZATION, LOOKING AT THE RULES IN A WAY THAT MIGHT GUIDE COUNCIL. WE DON'T RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPRESSING INTEREST.

THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHETHER YOU WANT TO PACK THAT INTO THIS FALL. OR WHETHER YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW COUNCIL IS ELECTED AND WHETHER YOU WANT THAT DONE BY A SUBCOMMITTEE INVOLVING T THAT, THE CITY MANAGER OR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. WE'RE OPEN TO LOOKING AT ALL THE RULES BUT RIGHT NOW THE TIMELY ONE WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER AND DECIDE, NOT NECESSARILY TONIGHT BUT YOUR PROCESS FOR YOUR RGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS. THE ACTUAL ELECTION PROCESS, I'LL TOUCH ON THAT BRIEFLY, WITH THE THOUGHT YOU WILL DISCUSS THEM MORE AS A COMPONENT VERSUS DOES AFTER EACH POINT.

WHEN I'M DONE TALKING YOU CAN START TALKING BACK AND FORTH.

THE ELECTION PROCESS VOTING THE ROLL CALL VOTE WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY. A SHOW OF HANDS FOR THE VOTE COULD BE USED. THE OTHER OSSIBILITY WOULD BE TO DO A BALLOT VOTING. IF WE HAVE AN ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, YOU COULD ALL ENTER YOUR VOTE AND THEN THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM MIGHT SHOW THOSE RESULTS MUCH LIKE YOU SEE WITH CONGRESS AND OTHER LARGE MEETINGS. WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL CAPABILITY TO DO THAT. WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY USED. SO THE THOUGHT OF THE PAPER BALLOT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO WAS VOTING AND THEN THE VOTE MADE BY THAT COUNCILMEMBER.

THE VALUE, I SUPPOSE, OF THAT APPROACH WOULD BE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SIMULTANEOUS VOTING BY EVERYONE AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF A FOLLOW THE LEAD OR SOME DETERMINATION THAT WAY.

THE REQUIREMENT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLYING WITH OPEN MEETINGS WOULD BE THOSE VOTES WOULD HAVE TO BE READ AND INDICATE THE MEETING THEN DOING THAT OR IF THE CHAIR WASN'T THE CLERK OF COUNCIL, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL COULD BE THE GATHERER OF THE

VOTES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT IS PART OF THE -- YOU CAN'T HAVE A SECRET BALLOT.

THE RESULTS HAVE TO BE READ SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHO VOTED FOR

WHOM? >> THAT DECISION DECIDED THIS SUMMER BY THE SUPREME COURT, DONE A SECRET WHO I BELIEVE SHARED THE MEETING OR LAW DIRECTOR WAS THE ONE GATHERING AND COUNTING THE BALLOTS.

DID NOT ANNOUNCE WHO OR WHAT, WHO VOTED FOR WHOM.

THERE WERE ACTUALLY THREE SEPARATE BALLOTS BECAUSE CUTTING IN AND OUT] INCLUDED SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT A NOMINEE.

THEY WERE OR WEREN'T AWARE OF THE ROBERT'S RULE.

UNLTHEY CLAIMED THEY NEEDED ANOR VOTE.

IT DIDN'T REACH THE MAJORITY SELECTION.

HE SIMPLY INDICATED WHO THE WINNER WAS.

THEY DID PRESERVE THE BALLOT. THERE WAS PUBLIC RECORD AVAILABLE. THE SUPREME COURT DID NOT ACCEPT THE ARGUMENT AND TOOK THE VIEW, NO, THE PUBLIC AT A MEETING SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THE VOTING.

AND SO THE PROCESS OF A PAPER BALLOT, IN MY OPINION, TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD NEED TO BE A READ BALLOT AT THE MEETING.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS. IF YOU CHOSE THAT, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THE SHOW OF HANDS AS WELL.

THE ORDER OF VOTING IF YOU ARE VOTING IN A GROUP CAN BE DONE ONE OF MULTIPLE WAYS. THE SORT OF STANDARD ROBERT'S RULES IS TO DO IT IN THE ORDER OF NOMINATION.

IT COULD ALSO BE DONE RANDOMLY. IF THERE IS THREE PEOPLE NOMINATED, YOU PUT THREE NAMES IN A HAT AND PULL ONE OUT.

YOU COULD DO IT ALPHABETICALLY OR SENIORITY OF THE NOMINEES.

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IT'S A VARIETY OF WAYS IF THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE PROCESS.

IF YOU ARE DOING A BALLOT APPROACH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT CONCERN BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD BE VOTING AT THE SAME IME KNOWING ALL OF THE CANDIDATES THAT HAD BEEN NOMINATED.

THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY CONCERNS. IN TERMS OF OTHER ISSUES, THE PROCESS WOULD BE SELECTED. THE TEMPORARY CHAIR WOULD GIVE UP THE CHAIR, THE PRESIDENT WOULD ASSUME THE CHAIR AT THAT POINT. AFTER BEING SWORN TO OFFICE AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND THEN WOULD PROCEED WITH THE MEETING. THE SELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT PRO TEM, THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR WOULD PROCEED.

WE INDICATED IN THE MEMO, OTHER POSSIBLE THINGS THAT COULD OCCUR AT THAT ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. SELECTION OF COUNCIL APPOINTEES TO VARIOUS BOARD, COMMITTEES AND ORGANIZATIONS.

SOMETIMES HAPPENS AT THOSE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETINGS.

IT'S LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT IF YOU HAVEN'T AD AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS THOSE BY YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE TO BE OPEN MEETINGS.

DESIGNATION OF THE CLERK AS YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS DESIGNEE IS ANOTHER THING THAT CAN EASILY BE DONE AT THAT MEETING.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.

I THINK THAT COVERS ALL THE ITEMS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU DISCUSS. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE

FRAMEWORK TO LAYOUT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE GUESTS, THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING IS RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION. WHEN WE DETERMINE THE PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL, PRESIDENT PRO TEM, MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR.

AND IN THE PAST, WHAT WE'VE TAKEN IS NOMINATIONS, IT'S BEEN A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS. NOMINATIONS AND THEN VOTE.

AND THAT'S RETTY MUCH BEEN. IN THE RETREAT WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING MORE THOUGHTFUL AND CAREFUL.

THAT PREEMPTED THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION ON DOING THIS, ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SELECT OUR LEADERSHIP.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. SMITH? >> D. SMITH: THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU, MR. LINDSAY. THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.

QUESTION, PRESIDENT OR ANY OF THESE ELECTED POSITIONS HAVE SENIORITY OR DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT INTO OUR OWN RULES IF WE SO

DECIDED? >> THE ACTUAL CHARTER LANGUAGE REGARDING THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING SELECTION DOESN'T GO INTO HE DETAIL OF SAYING VOTE. HOWEVER OTHERWISE BY MAJORITY VOTE. IF YOU WANTED IT TO BE A HIGHER MAJORITY. YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY AT LEAST TO THE EXTENT I HAVE SNOT SEEN IN OUR CHARTER, AN EXPRESS REQUIREMENT OF THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION OF PLEURALITY.

I TELL YOU ROBERT'S IN GENERAL TAKES A MULTIPLE VOTE APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO A PLEURALITY. INTERESTINGLY, ROBERT'S SUGGEST THAT IF THERE IS MULTIPLE VOICE VOTES BECAUSE IF YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE VOTE GETTER NOT BE REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION UNLESS CHOOSING TO WITHDRAW FROM CONSIDERATION.

THAN SMALLER BODIES. SOMETIMES THE LOWEST VOTE GETTER OF THREE MIGHT BE BE THE EST COMPROMISED CANDIDATE IF THE TWO

>> ABR ABRAHAM LINCOLN, CASE IN POINT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. LET'S START FROM THE OP AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH. AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO.

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I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE ALL NIGHT.

WHO DO WE WANT TO HAVE LEAD THE MEETING.

THE CITY MANAGER, LAW DIRECTOR OR CLERK OF COUNCIL.

ANY THOUGHTS? MR. SMITH.

>> D. SMITH: MY INSTINCT, SORRY KAY, BUT THE CLERK.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? ANYTHING DIFFERENT? MR. ROBINSON.

>> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD CONCUR IT MAKES SENSE TO BE AS FAR REMOVED FROM THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AS POSSIBLE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SO BY CONSENSUS WE'RE SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO CLERK DO RUN THE -- OKAY.

MOVING DOWN. THEN ONCE SOMEBODY IS -- DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE OATH OF OFFICE PRIOR TO THE MEETING, PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL CALLING OF THE MEETING SO THAT THE PERSON IS ACTUALLY PUT AN OATH INTO OFFICE?

>> I'M WORKING THIS. THEN WE HAVE HE ROLL CALL.

NOMINATION. DO WE WANT TO DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION SITUATION OR O WE WANT TO DO OPEN FLOOR NOMINATIONS AS

WE HAVE IN THE PAST? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MAKE A CASE TWO THINGS, I'M OT A BIG FAN OF EXECUTIVE SESSION NEEDLESSLY, I LIKE IN THE EVENT OF MULTIPLE NOMINEES FOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME WORDS FROM THE NOMINEES THEMSELVES. JUST A COUPLE OF THEM ABOUT WHY THEY WANT TO DO IT OR WHY THEY ARE THE RIGHT PERSON.

WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SESSION IS FINE.

I THINK THERE IS DIALOGUE PRIOR TO JUMPING INTO A VOTE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON.

>> D. ROBINSON: I CONCUR.

THINK FOUR AND FIVE AFTER NOMINATIONS ARE MADE.

ONE WAY TO AFFORD A FIVE-MINUTE OPPORTUNITY FOR NOMINEES TO SAY

WHATEVER THEY WANT. >>

>> D. ROBINSON: THREE MINUTES. BUT I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS SERIOUS, T'S NOT A ONE-MINUTE SPEECH.

I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT FOR TWO YEARS. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD SAY SOME THINGS ABOUT THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE OFFICE AND THEIR HOPES FOR THE COMING TWO YEARS. AND ARTICULATE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I WOULD FIND THIS USEFUL, NOT ONLY FOR COUNCIL BUT SERVING THE PURPOSE OF ENGAGING AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC. WE AN DO TO MAKE THE PROCESSES OF OUR GOVERNMENT MORE AVAILABLE AND INTERESTING AND ENGAGING TO THE PUBLIC, WE UGHT TO DO THAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: BE OKAY WITH HAVING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. PROBABLY DECEMBER WITH THE NEWLY-ELECTED COUNCIL PEOPLE. I WANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN US UPTO BECOMING A SPECTACLE. I CAN SEE US FILLING COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND HAVING PEOPLE WHO HOPE TO BECOME THE NEXT PRESIDENT

>> R. DOROTHY: WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AND.

I WANT TO BE AS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THE SPECIAL -- I KNOW THE PRESIDENT DOES HELP DECIDE WHAT GETS ON THE AGENDA AND THE ORDER IT GETS ON THE AGENDA. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER -- AND THEY ARE THE PRESIDENT AND PRO TEM ARE INVITED TO SPECIAL MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL. WHAT OTHER FUNCTIONS DO THE PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT PRO TEM, THEY GET INVITED TO SPEAK, WHAT

OTHER OFFICES DO YOU HOLD? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE OF THEM AS THE PRESIDENT IS A MEMBER OF THE MANAGERS ASSOCIATIONS, A MONTHLY MEETING, POSSIBLY MORE.

THAT IS ONE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL FOR EACH OF THE CENTRAL OHIO COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THOSE OF PRESIDENCY.

AND THERE IS OFTEN TIMES A LOT OF ADDITIONAL MEETINGS THAT GO IN FOR COUNCIL AND

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THINGS LIKE RIBBON CUTTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

NOW WE HAVE TWO THINGS I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP MOVING US IN A DIRECTION. DO WE WANT TO DO EXECUTIVE SESSION IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE WANT TO DO?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T. LET ME ADDRESS, I PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT OPINION THAT MS. DOROTHY DOES.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE TROUBLED AND THIS PRESUPPOSES THEY ARE GOING TO BE CHANGES IN COUNCIL WITH THIS ELECTION.

THERTHERE MAY NOT BE. IT MAY BE BUSINESS AS USUALLY, THE WAY IT HAS FOR THE LAST 22, 24 YEARS.

THAT IT'S KIND OF BEEN A ONE DEAL WHO WAS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS. IT PRESUPPOSED THAT WILL BE CHANGES. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TROUBLED ABOUT BRING IN NEWLY ELECTED BUT NOT SWORN IN COUNCILMEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN DECISIONS BEFORE THEY WERE SWORN IN.

THEY ARE NOT COUNCIL PEOPLE GET. YET.

I LIKE SWEARING THEM N BEFORE ROLL CALL BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE COUNCIL. I THINK ANY DISCUSSION OF NOMINATIONS AND PRESIDENT HAS TO OCCUR AFTER THAT ROLL CALL, THAT SWEARING IN. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE IN OPEN SESSION. I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GET MY HEAD AROUND, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE NOMINATIONS.

WE HAVE TO. WHY CAN'T WE BUT ALL 7 NAMES ON A BALLOT, YOU PUT YOUR NAME ACROSS THE TOP, WE TABULATE THE BALLOTS, THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS MAKE PRESENTATIONS.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER IDEA. TO WIDD WHITTLE IT DOWN THAT AY.

LET'S FACE IT, IF WE DO NOMINATIONS, AT LEAST IN THE PAST, THAT WAS REALLY KIND OF -- IT WAS DECIDED BEFORE THE NOMINATIONS WERE MADE. A PRESIDENT WHO WE KNEW WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE PRESIDENT.

AND SO THE NOMINATION WAS SORT OF JUST A WAY TO IN AND OUT] NOW WE KNOW BONNIE IS PRESIDENT.

JUST AN IDEA. WE JUST DO THE FIRST ROUND, THE TOP TWO VOTE GETTERS. IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, ASSUMING THAT THOSE TWO ACTUALLY WANT TO SERVE.

ONE THING I STRESS WITH EVERYBODY IS I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH EXTRA WORK SITTING IN THE CENTER CHAIR IS. IF YOU HAVE A PART-TIME JOB THAT A FULL-TIME JOB,IT'S DIFFICULT E MEETINGS AND RIBBON CUTTINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO A LESSER EXTENT, PRESIDENT PRO TEM ARE EXPECTED TO DO.

IT MAY BE THAT THE PERSON IS NOMINATED DOESN'T REALLY, AS LINDEN SAID, MAY BE PARAPHRASING. THAT'S JUST MY IDEA TO THROW IT

OUT THERE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> MEMB MADAM PRESIDENT, I LIKET IDEA AS A PLACE TO START.

AND I THINK MY RAISING THE ISSUE OF THE RETREAT WAS LARGELY A FUNCTION OF FOUR YEARS AGO AND NOT PERSONAL, BUT AT THE TIME AS A NEW COUNCIL, SEEING THE SITTING PRESIDENT PRESIDE OVER THEIR OWN NOMINATION AND RE-ELECTION AND DECIDING THE ORDER OF THINGS, IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE ON THE FLY, I STRUGGLED WITH AT THE TIME. I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION. THIS MIGHT BE A CHARTER ISSUE BUT SHOULD IT BE A TWO-YEAR TERM? GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF WORK, I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE.

I HAVE A 12-MEMBER BOARD, THEY SERVE FOR THREE YEARS.

AND SO EVERY YEAR, FOUR SEATS COME UP.

AFTER THE ELECTION THEN, WE EACH CHOOSE A NEW PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT, EACH YEAR WE REELECT PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT,

SECRETARY AND TREASURER. >>

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'VE NEVER BEEN A PROPONENT OF TERM

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LIMITS BECAUSE I'VE SEEN WHAT IT DOES TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

CHURNING PEOPLE VER. YOU GET PEOPLE WAY TOO YOUNG AND WAY TOO INEXPERIENCED. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAD, YOU KNOW,

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TERMING THEM OUT OF COUNCIL, JUST OUT OF

THAT PARTICULAR CHAIR. >>

>> COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT, IT'S A CHARTER QUESTION ITSELF.

THE CHARTER PROVIDES AFTER ITS ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING AFTER ELECTION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE COUNCIL SHALL ELECT A PRESIDENT FOR A TERM OF TWO YEARS FROM ITS MEMBERS.

THE CHARTER PROVIDES FOR -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT. THAT ANSWERED THAT.

OKAY. ARE WE, THE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MR. MEYERS' CONCEPT, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR NAME, THING AND LIMIT IT. AND PUT YOUR NAME ON A BALLOT.

AND IT GETS HANDED IN. AND THEN THE TOP TWO PEOPLE ARE GIVEN TWO TO THREE MINUTES TO SAY WHY THEY WANT THE OFFICE AND

WHAT THEIR PROPOSALS ARE? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I WOULD PUT IN THERE, THERE IS NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T CHECK YOUR OWN BOX.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: RIGHT. >> SOMEHOW ALLOW FOR THE CONTINGENCY OF A TIE, WHAT DO WE DO IN THAT CASE?

>> TIE FOR SECOND. >> ONE TO THE QUESTION ASKED. FROM A ROBERT'S STANDPOINT THAT WOULD BE IF BY YOUR RULE YOU ARE SAYING THE TOP TWO GO TO THE NEXT ROUND THEN I WOULD THINK A 3-2-2 BARRING SOME OTHER ROCESS THAT YOU COME UP WITH, WOULD RESULT IN A REOUT] PEOPLE WOULD DECIDE TO CHANGE OR NOT CHANGE THEIR VOTE.

THE OTHER QUESTION, I HAD, I THINK IT RELATED TO SOMETHING COUNCILMEMBER MEYERS COMMENTED ABOUT.

THE QUESTION OF IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT THE POSITION, PROVIDE A MECHANISM WHY WHICH THEY ANNOUNCE THAT PRIOR TO THE INITIAL VOTE. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO BE IT, DO YOU WANT THEM PART OF THAT 7?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK BEFORE THEY DO THE VOTE, I WOULD

LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY -- >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU DON'T?

OKAY. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'M NOT CERTAIN I WOULD SEEK THE POSITION.

BUT LET'S ASSUME THAT THE PERSON WHO GETS THE MOST VOTES IS SOMEBODY I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE POSITION, I MIGHT KEEP MY NAME IN THE RING. I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING, WITH THIS GROUP OF SEVEN, I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS GOING TO GET ELECTED. IF A BRAND-NEW COUNCILMEMBER WAS THE TOP VOTE GETTER, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CHALLENGE THAT PERSON BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S A APPROPRIATE FOR A NEW COUNCILMEMBER TO BE PRESIDENT. NOT THAT I WOULD SEEK THE NOMINATION MYSELF BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT IS.

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT AFTER THE FIRST BALLOT, WHEN IT SHAKES OUT, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO

SAY I WITHDRAW MY NAME. >> R. DOROTHY: ARE WE ASSUMING THAT IF THERE IS ONLY TWO PEOPLE THEN THE SECOND BECOMES PRO TEM

OR HOW IS THAT WORKING? >>

>> A SEPARATE ELECTION? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S USUALLY A SEPARATE ELECTION. WE'VE PRODUCED -- IT'S UP TO US.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE KNOWING WHO IS IS BECOMING PRESIDENT COULD ALTER YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHO YOU WANT AS PRO TEM FOR A VARIETY OF

REASONS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: DO WE WANT TO USE THE SAME PROCESS FOR PRO TEM OR MORE INFORMAL AND TAKE NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR FOR PRO TEM?

>>

WAY FOR PRO TEM. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

THAT'S CONSISTENT THEN. NOW, ALONG THE SAME LINE, DO WE WANTED TO DO THE SAME, A BALLOT WITH MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR OR DO

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AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST, WITH NOMINATION AND APPROVAL?

>> I WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH NOMINATION AND APPROVAL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: LET'S FACE IT, OVER THE YEARS WHEN WE'VE HAD GOOD MAYORS, WE WANTED TO REAPPOINTED THEM.

NO REASON TO CHANGE IT IF THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: DO WE HAVE A LIST OF COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE MORE THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION MAYBE AND WE DO THOSE LATER.

THE CLERK, AS OUR RECORD'S CUSTONIAN, THERE ARE MINISTERIAL ONES WE COULD DO IN THE MEETING IF WE HAD A LIST.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE CLERK IS DEFINITELY THE OPEN RECORDS CERTIFICATION. ANYBODY OPPOSED, WE'LL ADD THAT

TO THE LIST. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LIST TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THAT NIGHT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IN ADDITION.

>> M. GREESON: I THOUGHT WE WOULD TACKLE THAT AFTER WE GOT

THROUGH THE OTHER -- >> B. KOWALCZYK: ARE WE WRITING

THIS UP AS A COUNCIL POLICY? >> M. GREESON: WE'LL WRITE AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNCIL RULES WE BRING BACK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE OUR PROCESS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BALLOT GO OUT WHERE PEOPLE WRITE DOWN THE NAME AND THE TOP TWO PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THEN WE TAKE A VOTE. NOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THE VOTE? DO WE WANT TO DO A VOICE VOTE, A HAND-RAISED VOTE? PROBABLY TO ME, IT MAKES AS MUCH SENSE AS ANY BECAUSE BALLOT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO READ IN THE BALLOT WHO OTED FOR WHOM.

IT MAKES IT MORE TIME CONSUMING. >> MR. LINDSEY HAD THE POINT, EVERYONE COULD OTE AT THE SAME TIME WITHOUT THE INFLUENCE OF EVERYONE ELSE'S VOTE WAS THE BENEFIT OF RAISING YOUR HAND OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, WRITING THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> D. ROBINSON: I FINE THAT A COMPELLING ARGUMENT IN TERMS OF PROMOTING OUR SAFEGUARDING THE INDEPENDENCE OF THOUGHT AS T THE AROUND. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THE BALLOT THAT IS READ OUT. >> R. DOROTHY: YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED YOUR NAME ATTACHED TO IT BUT WE'RE ALL VOTING AT THE SAME

TIME. >>

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS:

>> SUGGESTING HE'S SHAMELESS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'M NOT.

THAT'S YOUR LINE, NOT MINE, MR. FOUST.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'LL DO THE PROCESS WITH BOTH THE PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT PRO TEM, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. JUST TRYING TO MOVE US.

MOVING US DOWN. OKAY.

SO WE'VE DECIDED HOW THE VOTING IS GOING TO BE.

BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE BALLOT AND JUST HANDING IT DOWN.

SO IT WILL BE THE OATH OF OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.

AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE THE VOTE FOR THE PRO TEM, THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR PRESIDENT PRO TEM. AND THEN PRIOR -- AT THE VERY BEGINNING IS THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR ALL THE NEW PEOPLE ELECTED.

THE ORDER GOES EVERYBODY ELECTED, FIS FIRST THE OATH OF OFFICE, THE ROLL CALL AND THE ELECTION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SPELLED IT OUT.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING? MR. LINDSAY, IS THERE ANYTHING

WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS? >> NO, I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE UESTIONS WE HAD. FOR CLARIFICATION, THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE VOTE WOULD OCCUR TWICE, BOTH AT THE ALL SEVEN MEMBERS ELIGIBLE AND THEN BETWEEN THE TWO PERSONS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THE RECORD WE UNDERSTAND BOTH OF

THOSE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIMITING TO TWO PEOPLE AND SEVEN COUNCILMEMBERS, HE MAJORITY AUTOMATICALLY COMES OUT UNLESS

SOMEBODY ABSTAINS. >> FOR CLARIFICATION, I STATED IT AND SOMETIMES I ASSUME PEOPLE AGREE WITH WHAT I STATE.

THE NEED TO REBALLOT OR A SECOND BALLOT IF WE HAD A 3-2-2 TIE, I PUT FORTH MY THOUGHTS. THAT'S REALLY YOUR DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER IF WE HAD A 3-2-2 TIE, WOULD YOU TREAT THAT AS A

REBALLOT? >> D. SMITH: OFTEN SOMETHING FROM MY PAST. A BALLOT SPECIFIC TO THE SECOND PLACE TIE AS OPPOSED TO A REBALLOT IN THIS CONTEXT.

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>> PRO TEM S. MYERS:

ON THE SECOND PLACE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT

SUGGESTION? >> ONLY FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION. IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE TWO SECOND PEOPLE TO THE EXTENT OF FACTIONS OR LIKE-MINDED THINKING, YOU COULD END UP THEN AT THE PERSON WITH THREE VOTES IF WE REBALLOTTED ONE, THE SECOND PLACE PERSON MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THE OTHER TWO ARE FINE CANDIDATES, I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW FROM CONSIDERATION.

THAT MIGHT CHANGE. >> LINCOLN IF WE DID IT THAT

WAY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST PERSON STAYS IN AND THERE IS A RUN OFF BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE.

IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE AGREEING ON?

>> I WOULD REBALLOT ALL THE WAY AROUND.

>> D. ROBINSON: AT WHAT POINT WOULD THE REMARKS BE MADE?

AFTER THE FIRST BALLOT? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: AFTER TWO.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AFTER WE NARROW TO TWO.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK MR. LINDSAY IS RIGHT.

IF IT'S A 3-2-2, I GUESS ONE WOULD DROP OUT.

MAYBE NOT. MAYBE NOT.

>> D. SMITH: A FOLLOW-UP WOULD BE SINCE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE OUR OWN RULES AT THAT MOMENT, WE COULD DECIDE A NEW

RULE? >> CORRECT.

MAYBE NOT ADVISABLE, BUT CORRECT.

STALEMATE, WE HAVE O. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THE GREATEST FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS A BENEVOLENT DICTATORSHIP.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IS THE ANYTHING ELSE?

YES. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE READING OF THAT FIRST, THE VERY FIRST BALLOT WERE SEVEN NAMES ARE AVAILABLE, WHEN WE READ THAT BACK IT WILL BE I ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. COUNCILMEMBER JONES NOMINATED COUNCILMEMBER FRANK. SO THAT WOULD BE HOW THAT WOULD BE READ TO MAKE SURE FOR OPEN MEETINGS PURPOSES HAT IT'S WHO VOTED FOR WHO. IT'S NOT REALLY A NOMINATION,

I'M SORRY. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT'S NOT A VOTE. IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THERE COULD BE 7-0 VOTE ON THE FIRST ROUND.

>> CORRECT, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISSPEAK, IT IS THE VOTE, NOT

NOMINATION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? OKAY.

GOOD JOB STRUGGLING. I THINK WE MADE IT.

A GOOD, HEALTHY DISCUSSION. >> WE'LL GET IT WRITTEN UP IN A FORMAT FOR YOUR SORT OF FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL AS A LIST OF THE APPOINTMENTS SO YOU ARE AWARE OF WHICH OTHER APPOINTMENTS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING. AND FINALLY, IS THERE ANY INTEREST BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEWLY-ELECTED COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ANY OTHER COUNCIL RULES DURING THIS INTERIM PERIOD?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK THAT'S USUALLY A GOOD TOPIC FOR THE RETREAT. NORMALLY JUST FOR OUR GUESTS, AFTER THE ELECTION, USUALLY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WE DO A FRIDAY NIGHT, ALL AY SATURDAY RETREAT WITH A CONSULTANT STEERING US. AND WE GO THROUGH TRYING O FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR TWO-YEAR PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK OVER THE COUNCIL RULES AND PROTOCOLS AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISE OR DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO MEET THE TIMES AS THEY CHANGE. OKAY.

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MR. GREESON, OTHER INFORMATION? >> M. GREESON: I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU ABOUT THE 911 REMEMBRANCE.

AND THAT EVENT THIS WEEK. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE FLAG PLANTING, ONE THAT IS --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FLAG PLANTING IS 3:00 TOMORROW.

>> M. GREESON: VISUALLY IMPACTFUL, AS WELL AS THE CEREMONY ALWAYS IS. REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT.

WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, STAFF WOULD REQUEST AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS HEARTY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES.

[7. Reports of Council Members]

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: REPORTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS, MS. KOWALCZYK? I'M SORRY, MS. THRESS, I FORGOT TO ASK YOU. MR. LINDSEY? MS. KOWALCZYK? MS. DOROTHY.

>> R. DOROTHY: A REMINDER WE HAVE THE CEMETERY OPEN HOUSE

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. SMI TH? MR. FOUST? MR. ROBINSON?

>> D. ROBINSON: NOTHING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THINGS CAME UP AT THE CENTRAL OHIO MEETING. ONE OF THEM IS THAT OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS WANTED TO TAKEOVER THE COLLECTION OF FUNDS THAT COULD BE WON IN LAWSUITS THAT CITIES HAVE FILED REGARDING OPIATE CASES. THE GOVERNOR HAS TAKEN A FORM SAYING HE SUPPORTS HOME RULE AND IT SHOULD BE THE FUNDS, THE FUNDS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPIATE PROBLEM AND SITUATION.

SENDING A THANK YOU TO THE GOVERNOR FOR HIS SUPPORT OF HOME RULE. AND SOMETHING WE HOPE DOESN'T DETERIORATE ANY MORE THAN IT HAS.

THEN THERE IS ALSO A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND I MIGHT HAVE YOU HELP ME A LITTLE BIT. WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO EMINENT DOMAIN FOR PARK TRAILS.

AND IT'S -- THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN'T USE MINENT DOMAIN FOR A PARK TRAIL BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE WAS SAYING BECAUSE THE TRAIL WAS GOING TO BE SO CLOSE TO SOMEBODY'S WINDOW, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO BUILD THE TRAIL. SO THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN. BUT THERE WILL BE MORE ON THAT.

AND THE NEXT CENTRAL OHIO MANAGERS MEETINGS IS HELD HERE IN WORTHINGTON ON THE FIRST WEDNESDAY, LUNCHTIME, THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF OCTOBER. ANYTHING ELSE?

[9.A. Details relative to the security arrangements and emergency response protocols for the City]

IF NOT, WE MOVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS FOLLOWED BY MS. DOROTHY, FOR PURPOSES DETAIL RILLATIVE TO THE SECURITY ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROTOCOLS FOR THE CITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW ALCZYK, OKAY, MS. MICHAEL, YES, MR. FOUST, MOVES, SECONDS BY MOST KOWALCZYK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.