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[1. Call To Order]

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M GOING TO CALL THE DECEMBER 2, MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

MS. THRESS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: HERE. SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE A FEW MINUTES AGO, ANYONE ELSE HAVE OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO DISPENSE WITH DOING IT THE

[5. Consent Agenda]

SECOND TIME. MOVING ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, THTHERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AS THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ADOPTED BY ONE MOTION.

IF A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, OR PUBLIC REQUESTS DISCUSSION ON A PARTICULAR ITEM, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

WE'LL GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST SOMETHING TO BE REMOVED AFTER WE READ ALL THE ITEMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE SUBMIT A FULLY COMPLETED SPEAKER'S SLIP TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

CONSENT AGENDA IS ENTERPRISED OF ORDINANCE 47-2019.

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WHERE THE VILLAGE OF RIVERLEA FOR THE PROVISION OF POLICE PROTECTION.

ORDINANCE 48-2019. APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF THE FRANKLIN DISTRICT BOARD OF HEALTH PROVIDER OF PLUMBING INSPECTION SERVICES OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. OR THE 49-2019.

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS BOARD OF HEALTH AND THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON HEALTH SERVICES. RESOLUTION 49-2019.

REAPPOINTING MEMBERS TO VARIOUS CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS DEPENDENT BOARD. ER RESOLUTION 70-2019.

APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF DONALD SCHOFIELD ALTERNATIVE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL ALTERNATIVE MASTER PLAN FOR THE EXAMINER DIVISION OF THE BUILDING REGULATION.

RESOLUTION 72- 2019. AMENDING THE STAFFING CHART FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON REFLECT POSITIONS AUTHORIZED BY 2020 OPERATING BUDGET. INTRODUCED BY MR. ROB ROBINSON.

THE APPROVAL CONTINUING THE CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDES APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 12, NOVEMBER 18 SPECIAL MEETING AND NOVEMBER 18, REGULAR MEETING.

WE'RE ALSO NOT OBJECTING TO THE RENEWAL OF LIQUOR PERMIT, SALE OF SURPLUS EQUIPMENT. THERE ILL BE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA APPROVES THE LEGISLATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

FOR THE ANNUAL RENEWAL OF CURRENT ISSUED PERMITS, THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TO OT INCLUDE A HEARING FOR THE LIQUOR PERMITS. DO ANY COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY ITEMS TO REMOVE? HEARING DO NONE, MOVE ON.

ANY STAFF? DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANT AN ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD. THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS MOVED BY MR. SMITH AND SECONDED BY MR. MEYERS. MS. THRESS, COULD YOU PLEASE CALCALL THE ROLL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

[6.A. Ordinance No. 30-2019 Establish Compensation - Deputy Director of Safety/Police Chief]

ONTO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON PUBLIC LEGISLATION.

ORDINANCE NO. 30-2019 ESTABLISH COMPENSATION - DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SAFETY/POLICE CHIEF AMENDING ORDINANCE 53-2018 TO ESTABLISH COMPENSATION FOR THE UNCLASSIFIED POSITION OF DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF SAFETY/POLICE CHIEF. FIRST THING WE NEED TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. MS. DOROTHY, WILL YOU MOVE TO MOVE IT, MS. KOWALCZYK, SECOND IT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY . OPPOSED.

OKAY. SECOND, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION IN SECTION 1, TO ADD THE SUM OF $125,522.45. WILL YOU MOVE THAT AMENDMENT, MR. ROBINSON? SECONDED BY MR. FOUST.

MR. GREESON, WILL LET YOU KNOW FROM HERE.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAE, EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHEN WE HAVE VACANCIES, IT'S OUR CUSTOM TO REVIEW JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND MAKE

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AMENDMENTS. WE DID A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, WE REVIVED THE JOB DESCRIPTION, RETE ALTITUDE CREATED THE JOB OF DIRECTOR SAFETY/POLICE CHIEF IN THE UNCLASSIFIED PAY ORDINANCE. WE HAD NOT NAMED A CHIEF AT THAT TIME. AND YOU TABLED THAT ORDINANCE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE KNEW WHAT THE SALARY WOULD BE.

NOW, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE TABLE, WHICH YOU JUST DID, AND APPROVE THAT ORDINANCE.

THIS IS THE 2019 ORDINANCE. SO IT WILL BE IN EFFECT THIS YEAR. CHIEF IS STARTING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS ORDINANCE IN EFFECT BEFORE HE STARTED. OBVIOUSLY, THE LEGISLATION YOU WILL PASS LATER ON IN THE MEETING RELATED TO 020 WILL EFFECT HIS AND ALL OTHER EMPLOYEE'S POSITIONS FOR THE YEAR 2020. I BELIEVE YOU ALSO EED TO INSERT THE NEW SECTION THAT AUTHORIZED RELOCATION EXPENSES

UP TO $5,000. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT AMENDMENT, MR. ROBINSON? MR. FOUST?

OKAY. >> M. GREESON: I WOULD BE GLAD

TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: COUNCIL QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. THRESS, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL ON THE AMENDING ORDINANCE, 30-219? ORDINANCE 30-2019 IS PASSED. ORDINANCE NO. 45-2019 2020

[6.B. Ordinance No. 45-2019 2020 Operating Budget]

OPERATING BUDGET PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 AND APPROPRIATING SUMS FOR CURRENT OPERATING EXPENSES IN PAST YEARS WE USED TO READ EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM. MR. LINDSEY MENTIONED THAT IS NOT NECESSARY TO READ THIS BUT TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 45-2019 TO THE DECEMBER 2ND VERSION PROVIDED WITH THE COUNCIL MATERIALS. SO MR. SMITH, WOULD YOU MOVE

THAT AMENDMENT? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY

ERS, WILL YOU SECOND IT? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. GRE

ESON? >> M. GREESON: I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL. THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU IN EARLY OCTOBER.

I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU ALL THROUGH SITTING THROUGH ANY NUMBER OF BUDGET PRESENTATIONS. AND ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS AND PROVIDING INPUT INTO THIS IMPORTANT DOCUMENT.

AND THEN SECOND, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO IT, THIS PROCESS AS YOU KNOW, IS ALMOST YEAR AROUND. AND A LOT OF EFFORT GOES INTO IT. AND THIS ONE WAS NOT A PARTICULARLY EASY ONE. SO I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERY BODY'S SUPPORT. THERE ARE RELATIVELY FEW CHANGES. BUT I THINK THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL.

THERE IS A MODEST INCREASE IN THE MAYOR'S SALARY, WHICH IS SUBJECT FOR BUDGETARY PURPOSES, SUBJECT SEPARATE LEGISLATION LATER ON. THERE IS A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLAR INCREASE IN THE COLUMBUS PUBLIC HEALTH CONTRACT WHICH YOU APPROVED A FEW MINUTES AGO. AND THEN WE HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER IN OUR PRESENTATIONS A RISE IN THE ABOUT $109,000 IN THE TOTAL DISPATCHING SERVICES RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER. AND THAT IS SIMPLY AN ADJUSTMENT FROM WHAT OUR ORIGINAL ANALYSIS SHOWED AS WE MOVED FURTHER INTO IMPLEMENTATION, WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN THE CONVENTIONAL VISITOR'S BUREAU FUND WE INCREASED THE APPROPRIATION.

ESSENTIALLY TO FUND THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU USING THE AVAILABLE BED TAX REVENUES.

I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THE CHANGES AND MR. BARTTER CAN CORRECT ME IF I MISSED ANY OF THEM.

IF THERE IS NO QUESTIONS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ONE QUESTION.

>> M. GREESON: FOR THIS YEAR, 22019 OR 2020?

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YES. >>

>> M. GREESON: IT WILL ONCE THE NUMBERS GO INTO THE FIVE-YEAR

FORECAST, YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. THN ORDINANCE 45-2019.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES. ORDINANCE NUMBER 45-2019 IS

[6.C. Ordinance No. 46-2019 2020 Compensation for Unclassified Employees]

PASSED. ORDINANCE NO. 46-2019 2020 COMPENSATION FOR UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES ESTABLISHING COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN UNCLASSIFIED POSITIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1, 2020 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2020, AND ADOPTING CLASS SPECIFICATIONS FOR SAID UNCLASSIFIED POSITIONS. WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT ORDINANCE 45-2019 SHALL REFLECT THE DECEMB DECEMBER 2ND, 2019 VERSION PROVIDED WITH THE COUNCIL MATERIALS.

MOVED BY MS. DOROTHY, SECONDED BY MS. KOWALCZYK.

ANY -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

-- JUST THE MOTION TO AMEND. OPPOSED?

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICH AEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS OUR STANDARD LEGISLATION FOR THE UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES. AND INCLUDING MYSELF AND WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE FURTHER DIRECTION ON.

HOWEVER, THESE AMOUNTS ARE CONSIST WITH WHAT THE BUDGET.

AND PROVIDES FOR THE NOT TO EXCEED SALARY OF ALL THE

UNCLASSIFIED. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. THRESS COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON ORDINANCE 46-2019.

[6.D. Ordinance No. 50-2019 Establish Compensation for the Mayor]

ORDINANCE IS PASSED. ORDINANCE NO. 50-2019 ESTABLISH COMPENSATION FOR THE MAYOR AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 47-13 AND ESTABLISHING COMPENSATION FOR THE MAYOR OF THE MUNICIPALITY OF

WORTHINGTON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEU MAY RECALL THE MAYOR'S SALARY CAN ONLY BE SET ESSENTIALLY EVERY TWO YEARS. YOU CAN'T INCREASE IT WHILE THEY ARE IN THEIR TERM OF OFFICE. IT HASN'T BEEN INCREASED SINCE 2014. COUNCIL ASKED THAT WE INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET AN INCREASE WHICH YOU JUST APPROVED IN THE MAYOR FROM 10400, AN INCREASE OF 6%, THAT'S ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO THE 3% PER YEAR THAT OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE RECEIVED OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. THE 2020 BUDGET IMPACT ABOUT WILL $752 IMPACT ON OPRS, MEDICARE AND WORKERS COMP.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> R. DOROTHY: IN ADDITION TO THE MAYOR BEING HONORARY TITLE IN WORTHINGTON, A LOT OF PROCLAMATIONS AND DOES A LOT OF HONORARY THINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

HE PLAYS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN MAYOR'S COURT IN ALLOWING PEOPLE WHO HAD TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS IN WORTHINGTON BE ABLE TO COME HERE IN WORTHINGTON, NOT GO TO FRANKLIN COUNTY, AND THERE IS A DIVERSION PROGRAM.

AND IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE MAYOR DOING THIS, WE LOOKED AT ALSO HIRING A MAGISTRATE AT THE TYPICAL FEE, WHICH WAS QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE $11,050 WE'RE PROPOSING.

I THINK IT'S PHENOMENAL WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO OFFERED TO FILL THE POSITION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. WE HAD A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO FILLED THE POSITION FOR A LONG TIME.

AND HAVE EXTREMELY WELL, BOTH THE HONORARY POSITION AND THE ACTUAL NUTS AND BOLTS POSITION THEY HAVE TO FULFILL FOR THE MAYOR'S COURT. I'M SO HAPPY WE'VE HAD SUCH HIGH-QUALITY PEOPLE WANTING TO BE IN THE POSITION.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING OFF WITH THE STEAL WITH THIS $11,05O THE MAYOR. I WOULD THINK IT'S VERY

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APPROPRIATE WE'RE INCREASING THIS AT THIS TIME.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YEAR. HE MAKES ALMOST ALL OF THE 52 WEEKS. AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS IS THE KIND OF DEDICATION WE GET FROM OUR MAYOR, N ADDITION TO ALL OF THE PROCLAMATIONS, RESOLUTIONS, AND OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HE PRESENTS.

ORDINANCE 50-2019 IS PASSED. INTRODUCING NEW LEGISLATION.

[7.A. Resolution No. 71-2019 Adoption of 2020-2024 Capital Improvements Program (CIP)]

RESOLUTION NO. 71-2019 ADOPTION OF 2020-2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM (CIP) APPROVING THE 2020-2024 CAPITAL CITY OF WORTHINGTON. FOR THE- INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON, MOVED BY ADOPTION BY MR. FOUST, SECONDED BY MR. SMITH.

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICH AEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO MY THANKS TO YOU AND THE STAFF FOR THE EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SPENT ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

THAT REALLY IS THE AREA WHERE YOU HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS AND EXPRESS WHERE YOU WANT TO INVEST.

I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN FOR THE YEAR.

IT'S AUSTERIER BUT I THINK MAKES THE OST WISE INVESTMENTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE IS ONE CHANGE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. WE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM. AND MR. WHITED CAN HELP ME IF I DON'T ADEQUATELY AIR THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THIS.

SINCE WE LAST TAL TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AN OPPORTUNITY ROSE OUT OF THE WORTHINGTON WAY MIDDLE SCHOOL SITE REDEVELOPMENT.

THERE HAS BEEN FOR QUITE A WHILE, SOME SMALL LOCALIZED FLOODING DURING RAIN VENTS IN ONE OF OUR CREEKS.

AND ON HAWTHORNE, A COUPLE OF HOUSES GET WATER IN THE BASEMENT AND INLET THAT SURCHARGES DURING RAIN EVENT REFLECTIVE OF THE STORM SEWER NOT HAVING ADEQUATE CAPACITY.

THE ENGINEERS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECT AS WELL AS MR. WHITED IN LOOKING AT THAT CAME UP WITH HOPEFULLY A WAY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WHY THE PROJECT IS OCCURRING.

REDUCING THE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO A MORE EXPENSIVE AND INVASIVE PROJECT LATER ON. WE BELIEVE ESSENTIALLY THAT HALF OF THE PROBLEM IS OURS AND HALF OF IT FROM THE SCHOOL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE STORM WATER FROM THE SCHOOL CONTRIBUTES TO THE DOWNSTREAM PROBLEM AND THE STORM WATER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM.

AND THEY ESTIMATE THAT FIXING IT AND INCREASING THE STORM WATER CAPACITY IS ABOUT $100,000. AND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE SCHOOL STAFF IS SPLITTING THAT.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROPOSE JUST SPENDING FUND BALANCE DOWN.

SO WE IDENTIFIED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SWAP SOMETHING THAT WAS WORTH $50,000 FOR THIS STORM WATER IMPROVEMENT.

AND WE IDENTIFIED NEXT YEAR'S WAY FINDING PROJECT AT $50,000 AS AN APPROPRIATE THING TO SWITCH OUT.

I INVITE MR. WHITED TO ADD ANYTHING THAT HE THINKS NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED OR CORRECT WHAT I GOT WRONG.

>> I THINK YOU NAILED IT. IT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION,

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: --

>> R. DOROTHY: I'M A BIT CONCERNED THAT PEDESTRIAN/BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION IS USUALLY THE THING ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. I NOTICED ALSO FOR THE OOL FUNDING, REDUCING BIKE AND PED, AND LOOKING AT WAY FINDING WHICH IS FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLES, AT THIS POINT, WE'VE DONE THE AUTOMOBILE TRANSPORTATION. SO I AM CONCERNED THAT OUR MOST

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VULNERABLE USERS ARE GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK HERE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND THERE ARD GIVE AND TAKE. I'M CONCERNED WE'RE LOOKING AT

THE MOST VULNERABLE USERS AND >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW

ALCZYK. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I UNDERSTAND THE WAY FINDING PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN PHASES, WHERE DOES

THIS LEAVE US? >> M. GREESON: ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD DELAY A PHASE NEXT YEAR. WE'RE PROPOSING FUNDING IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND WE WOULD PICKUP THERE.

WE HAVE PARK SIGNS TO DO. ADDITIONAL PARK SIGNS TO DO.

AND I BELIEVE WILSON BRIDGE ROAD TO DO.

AND AM I CORRECT, MR. BROWN? >> THE REMAINING PARK SIGNS AND NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS, AS MR. GREESON ALSO, WILSON BRIDGE ROAD, AND THEN THE STREET SIGNS THROUGHOUT ALL THE

NEIGHBORHOODS. >> M. GREESON: REALLY THE CHOICE HERE IS DO WE FIND SOMETHING WORTH $50,000 TO SWAP OUT SO THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT THAT WHOLE SITE IS TORN UP AND IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO GO BACK AND FIX IT LATER? OR EAT INTO THE FUND BALANCE.

AND WE CHOOSE TO RECOMMEND WE SWAP ANYTHING OUT.

IT'S COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO SPEND IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE IF

YOU SO DESIRE. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THE OTHER SUGGESTION IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

WAY FINDING CAN BE SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPORTED IN A LIVABLE COMMUNITIES GRAND OR AGE FRIENDLY GRANT.

DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SIGNS ARE USED FOR.

IF WE'RE DEFERRING IT, I ENCOURAGE STAFF TO LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES MAYBE AS A SUPPLEMENT.

>> M. GREESON: WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT IT AS PART OF THE PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE REDOING PARKS AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS T.I.F. DOLLARS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT.

WE'RE NOT SAYING WE GET RID OF THAT PROGRAM.

WE'RE JUST SAYING IN THIS PARTICULARLY TIGHT YEAR, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT I WOULD CALL THE NUTS AND BOLTS INFRASTRUCTURE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLEVIATE STORM WATER PROBLEMS WHEN THEY ARISE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT I THINK IS A SATISFACTORY AND CREATIVE SOLUTION AND ALTERNATIVE. WE'RE NOT FOREGOING, WE'RE SIMPLY DELAYING, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE WAY FINDING ALLOCATION. FOR PROBABLY ONE YEAR.

AND AS MUCH AS SIGNAGE IS GREAT, WET BASEMENTS ARE BAD.

I APPRECIATE THE COOPATIVE BETWEEN THE CITY AND SCHOOL.

>> M. GREESON: I COMPLICATE DAN AND SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE THIS ISSUE WASN'T IN FRONT OF S AS AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE C.I.P. OR WE WOULD HAVE PRESENTED IT EARLIER.

THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD HAVE BEEN SATISFIED TO SEE ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION OCCUR AND EXISTING PROBLEM NOT GET FIXED DURING IT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER QUESTIONS? JOHN REQUESTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION. COME ON UP.

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE STAFF PRESENTATION OF OCTOBER 21ST, REGARDING THE C.I.P.

AND READ TO YOU THE LAST TWO SLIDES OF THAT PRESENTATION.

THE FIRST ONE OF THESE LAST TWO IMPACTS OF CONSTRAINED FUNDING, 4.7 MILLION ADDED TO BONDING, PROJECTING INVOLVING CITY BUILDINGS DELAYED A YEAR OR TWO. PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS, PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR EVERY YEAR SPREAD OUT TO OCCUR EVERY OTHER YEAR. MOST EQUIPMENT REPLACEM SAID DELAYED MY A YEAR. PARKS AND RECREATION BUS AND SUDAN REPLACEMENT CANCELED, DROPPED FROM FLEET.

THE FINAL SLIDE OF THAT OCTOBER PRESENTATION WAS TITLED NEED FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. CURRENT REVENUE STREAMS OR THE C.I.P. ARE INSUFFICIENT TO FUND THE NEEDS.

INCOME TAX IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF REVENUE, ALONG WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MMVLT EACH YEAR AND LICENSE TAX PERIODICALLY.

AND THEN FINALLY, THAT SLIDE ENDED WITH POSSIBLE OPTIONS.

THREE WERE LISTED. PARKS AND RECREATION FEES, WATER AND SEWER SURCHARGES, AND LICENSE TAX.

I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS THAT STAFF LOOKED AT.

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BUT LET ME BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHAT I THINK IS AN ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS AT 5 MILLS AND CAN GO TO 8 ON PROPERTY TAX. WHAT I PROPOSE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS PLACING BEFORE THE VOTERS NEXT NOVEMBER, A BOND MEASURE FOR THE C.I.P. AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS AT 1.138 MILLS, 1.138 MILLS, THAT WOULD RAISE APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION IN 10 YEARS. THE COST TO A HOME ASSESSED AT $250,000 WOULD BE LESS THAN $10 A MONTH.

ABOUT $100 A YEAR. SO I THINK THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL. I KNOW YOU ARE GOING THROUGH VISIONING, MAYBE THIS WILL COME OUT OF VISIONING WHERE THE CITIZENS SAY, YES, INFRASTRUCTURE IS A PRIORITY AND THE CITY OUGHT TO PUT SOMETHING BEFORE THE VOTERS.

NEXT NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE A HIGH-TURN OUT ELECTION.

WE KNOW THAT. I WANT TO LAYOUT ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'M SURE THERE IS MANY SCENARIOS STAFF COULD COME UP WITH, BUT I WANTED TO BRING ONE TO YOUR ATTENTION I THOUGHT WAS REASONABLE AND AFFORDABLE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

THANK INTERESTS YOUR TIME. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RESEARCH THE THINGS, INCLUDING

THE NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. >>

NUMBERS ARE RIGHT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'RE BEING RESOURCEFUL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER CONCERNS? COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADAPT

IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET? >> R. DOROTHY: WHAT MR. RIS TOLD US WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONSTRAINED BUDGET IN BOTH THE GENERAL OPERATING CAPITAL AND IT IS IMPERATIVE WE LOOK AT OTHER SOURCES OR TRADEOFFS NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH. BUT THEY ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH UP FRONT. AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC. AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPERATIVE MRE LOOK AT NEW REVENUE SOURCES. SO THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK MR. RIF AND MS. KOWALCZYK BROUGHT UP THE NEED FOR NEW REVENUE FUNDING.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

AND ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS HAVING STAFF PERHAPS LOOK AS ONE OF OUR GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL BE DEFINED FURTHER AS WE GET TO A RETREAT. LOOKING FOR ALTERNATE SOURCES OF FUNDING, WHICH MAY INCLUDE GRANTSMANSHIP, CORPORATE DONATION, IN ADDITION TO ANALYZING WHETHER OR NOT THERE CAN BE A BOND ISSUE. BUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE OUT THERE FOR BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS SEVERAL OF US TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S COME UP TWICE TONIGHT. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

>> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE RETREAT AND I WOULD SAY FOR A IGH-PRIORITY TOPIC FOR NEXT YEAR, A THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AS A CITY. THAT IS THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ON INCREASING REVENUE.

BEFORE TALKING ABOUT NEW TAXES, I THINK WE NEED TO THOROUGHLY EXAMINE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ATTRACT AND BUILD BUSINESS HERE

IN WORTHINGTON. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MMR. SI

TH. >> D. SMITH: THANK YOU MR. GIF AND ROBINSON. AS CONSIDERATION OF THAT, MR. LINDSEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW BUT FOR THE NEXT OR FOLLOWING MEETING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO GET A VOTE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. I'M ASSUMING IT'S SIMILAR TO THE AGGREGATION INITIATIVE. I WANT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE

TALK FURTHER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

[7.B. Resolution No. 73-2019 2020 Compensation for Classified Employees]

RESOLUTION 71-2019 IS PASSED. RESOLUTION NO. 73-2019 2020 COMPENSATION FOR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES ESTABLISHING THE COMPENSATION PLAN, ASSIGNING COMPENSATION LEVELS FOR POSITIONS IN THE CLASSIFIED SERVICE, ADOPTING CLASS SPECIFICATIONS, PROVIDING FOR NORMAL WORK WEEKS, AND REPEALING RESOLUTIONS NO. 64-2018 AND 07-2019.

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INTRODUCED BY MR. MEYERS, MOVED BY ADOPTION BY MS. DOROTHY, SECONDED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICH AEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

THIS COMPENSATION PLAN IS CONSIST WITH THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST APPROVED. THIS IS THE COMPENSATION RELATED TO THE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES. YOU APPROVED THE UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES. THIS HAPPENS TO BE DONE BY RESOLUTION. GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU

MAY HAVE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

[7.C. Resolution No. 74-2019 Position Description: Part-time Court Liaison]

RESOLUTION 73-2019 IS PASSED. RESOLUTION NO. 74-2019 POSITION DESCRIPTION: PART-TIME COURT LIAISON AMENDING THE POSITION TITLE AND POSITION DESCRIPTION FOR PART-TIME COURT LIAISON.

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICH AEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS ACTUALLY EXPANDS THE DUTIES OF THE PART-TIME COURT LIAISON, RENAMES THE POSITION PART-TIME COURT LIAISON/SECURITY OFFICER. AND ADDS THE POTENTIAL DUTIES TO THE DESCRIPTION OF PROVIDING SECURITY AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, MUNICIPAL PLANNING, ZONING APPEALS AND OTHER CITY MEETINGS AS NEEDED TO HAT OVERALL JOB DESCRIPTION.

GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? RESOLUTION 47-2019 PASSES.

[7.D. Ordinance No. 51-2019 Appropriation - Payments Related to Economic Development Agreements]

ORDINANCE NO. 51-2019 APPROPRIATION - PAYMENTS RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 52-2018 (AS AMENDED) TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE GENERAL FUND, DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TIF AND WEST DUBLIN-GRANVILLE RD. MUNICIPAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TIF FUNDS UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THE PAYMENT OF FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR FEES AND SCHOOL COMPENSATION.

INTRODUCED BY MR. MEYERS, MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MS. KOWALCZYK.

DOROTHY, SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY.

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: I BELIEVE WE'RE

INTRODUCING THIS ONE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: INTROD.

[7.E. Ordinance No. 52-2019 Appropriation - Northeast Gateway Project Design & Engineering Services]

ORDINANCE NO. 52-2019 APPROPRIATION - NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT DESIGN & ENGINEERING SERVICES AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 52-2018 (AS AMENDED) TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY THE ADDITIONAL DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE NE GATEWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES WITH SAID PROJECT (PROJECT NO. 602-14) INTRODUCED BY MS. DOROTHY.

[7.F. Ordinance No. 53-2019 Appropriation - New & Replacement Equipment & Various Projects]

ORDINANCE NO. 53-2019 APPROPRIATION - NEW AND REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT AND VARIOUS PROJECTS AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 45-2019 (AS AMENDED) TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY THE COST OF THE 2020 NEW AND REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT ITEMS AND FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2020 FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECTS. INTRODUCED BY MS. KOWALCZYK.

[7.G. Ordinance No. 54-2019 Appropriation - Legal Fees]

ORDINANCE NO. 54-2019 APPROPRIATION - LEGAL FEES AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 52-2018 (AS AMENDED) TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE. INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON.

NOW MOVING ONTO REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS.

[8.A.I. Permission to Bid - Pingree Drive and State Route 161 Crossing Improvement]

MR. GREESON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US ABOUT YOUR PERMISSION TO BID THE PINGREE DRIVE AND STATE ROUTE 161 CROSSING IMPROVEMENT.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAE, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY FOR IN RECENT YEARS . IN FACT, WE ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN TO FURTHER PROVIDE FOCUS AND DIRECTION TO THAT THIS YEAR. ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN EVALUATING IS A CROSSING AT PINGREE DRIVE AND STATE ROAD ROUTE 161.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER O MR. HURLEY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WHICH WE'RE SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO BID.

MR. HURLEY. >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON.

PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS MR. GREESON SAID, THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD RECEIVES A $100,000 ALLOCATION IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IN 2019.

AND IF YOU RECALL IN APRIL WE CAME TO YOU WITH KIND OF IN A ROUGH CONCEPT THIS IDEA OF THIS CROSSING.

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YOU DID APPROPRIATE THOSE UNDS FOR US TO BEGIN A DESIGN PROCESS TO LOOK INTO THAT. THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD HELD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS OF THE PROJECT NOTIFIED AND STARTED TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT IDEAS HOW TO DESIGN A CROSSING HERE. THAT PROJECT HAD NOT ONLY BEEN A HIGH PRIORITY LISTED IN THE MASTER PLAN BUT THE BOARD HAD HAD A LOT OF INPUT LEADING UP TO THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS FROM VARIOUS RESIDENTS AND FOLKS WHO HAD ATTENDED EVEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS JUST NDICATING THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR THEMES OF THE MASTER PLAN WAS BARRIERS AROUND WORTHINGTON THAT CREATE CHALLENGES GETTING ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS, ACROSS BUSY STREETS, AND 161 WOULD QUALIFY AS ONE OF THOSE.

SO WITH A PRETTY LONG GAP FROM OLD WORTHINGTON WITHOUT CROSSING, THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR THEM.

THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THAT. WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT, CYNTHIA PECK FROM DLZ WHO HAS BEEN OUR CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT AND PRESENTED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BIKE AND PED ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS. WE HAD A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS ATTENDING AND TESTIFIED AT THOSE MEETINGS.

WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF FOLLOWING UP ON CONCERNS.

I GOT INTO THE DETAILS IN YOUR MEMO.

HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE MICHAEL BEATS, THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY BOARD.

ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PROCESS OR THINKING OF THE PROJECT. FIRST, WE WANT TO ALLOW MS. PECK TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WAS CONSIDERED GOING INTO THIS

DESIGN. >> IT'S AN HONOR TO WORK ITH THE BIKE AND PED BOARD. THEY ARE INVOLVED AND A LOT OF GREAT INPUT INTO THE PROCESS. INCLUDED IN THE PACKETS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR PINGREE AND 161.

INCLUDING SIGNAGE THAT HAS EMBEDDED L.E.D. LIGHTS ON THE EDGE AND ALSO A PEDESTRIAN PUSH BUTTON.

THE INTENT OF A RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON IS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.

AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WHICH DOESN'T HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH PEDESTRIAN VOLUME BUT IS A BUSY ROAD, YOU WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION BUT NOT NECESSARILY IMPACT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IN A SEVERE WAY. SO HENCE, THE RRFB.

IT IS NOT LIT ALL THE TIME. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE KIND OF BECOME IMMUNE TO FLASHING LIGHTS.

SO THIS IS ONLY LIT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO CROSS.

YOU PUSH THE BUTTON AND IT'S A WIG-WAG PATTERN.

ALSO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTALLATION, THERE WOULD BE L.E.D. LIGHTS THAT FLASH AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE CROSSING SIGN. THOSE SIGNS WILL BE AT THE CROSSING. AND THEN THERE WILL BE ADVANCED SIGNAGE TO INDICATE THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN ROSSING AHEAD.

THERE WILL BE STATIC SIGNING, THE NORMAL PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNS YOU SEE. IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNAGE AND THE LIGHTS, THERE IS ALSO A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND INCLUDED. AND THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION TO PEDESTRIANS AS THEY CROSS.

IF THEY TAKE AN EXTREMELY LONG TIME TO CROSS, THERE IS A PLACE TO REST IN THE CENTER. WITH THIS PARTICULAR CROSSING, IT'S NOT THAT WIDE. THE MAJORITY OF PEDESTRIANS WILL BE ABLE TO CROSS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THE TIMING FOR THE RRFB CAN BE CHANGED, ALTERED WITHIN SET PARAMETERS. IF YOU DO ANTICIPATE MORE ELDERLY CROSSERS OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY IN ANYWAY, IF THEY NEED MORE TIME TO CROSS, THAT CAN BE LENGTHENED OR SHORTENED DEPENDING ON HE NEED AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

SO THAT IS THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND I DID JUST WANT TO NOTE WE DID PRIOR TO DOING THIS SET OF PLANS, DO A STUDY AT THAT INTERSECTION AT THAT LOCATION TO DETERMINE THE BEST APPLICATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

AND WE DID LOOK AT ONLY HAVING STATIC SIGNING AND MARKINGS, RRFB AND PEDESTRIAN BEACON. WE DETERMINED AT THE LOCATION, THE RRFB WAS THE BEST APPLICATION TO USE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> D. ROBINSON: FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK IN BIKE PED. THIS CROSSING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I CAN ATTEST IS RATHER HARROWING.

I'VE CROSSED IT A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH TWO KIDS PUSHING

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SMALL BICYCLES AND IT'S ALWAYS SORT OF A SPRINT, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SLOPED HILL COMING FROM THE EAST, SO THIS IS GREAT. COULD YOU HELP ME VISUALIZE A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHAT THE SIGNS WILL LOOK LIKE EXACTLY HOW BIG, WHERE THEY WILL BE? BOTH AT THE CROSSING AND THEN THE STATIC ONES, HOW AR DOWN THE STREET WILL HEY BE PLEASE?

>> LET ME PUT MY READERS ON. >> D. ROBINSON: THE RRFB -- WHAT

DOES THAT STAND FOR? >> RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON. ON THE PLANS YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIAMOND SIGN WITH THE PERSON CROSSING AND THERE ARE LITTLE KIND OF DOTS AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE SIGN.

THOSE RE INDICATING THE L.E.D. LIGHTS EMBEDDED IN THE SIGN.

AND THAT IS AT THE ACTUAL CROSSING.

AND AT THE ACTUAL CROSSING THERE WILL BE ONE OF THOSE SIGNS FACING EACH DIRECTION OF TRAVEL ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO THOSE WILL BE INSTALLED AT THE CROSSING LOCATION.

>> D. ROBINSON: ROUGHLY WHAT SIX OR SEVEN FEET?

>> THREE BY THREE FEET. >> D. ROBINSON: A SINGULAR POLE?

>> THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING LIGHT POLE AND THE SOUTH SIDE WILL BE A NEW PEDESTAL.

>> D. ROBINSON: THE ISLAND, THE ELEVATED AT ALL ABOVE STREET

LEVEL 10 INCHES? >> RIGHT NOW IT'S PROPOSED TO

BE A 6-INCH CURB ON BOTH SIDES. >> D. ROBINSON: GREAT.

THANK YOU. >> D. SMITH: FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.

WITH THE ISLANDS. I KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSION ALONG THE WAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN BEING INFLUENCED, IMPACTED NEGATIVELY. WHAT WERE THOSE CONVERSATIONS? WHY DID WE END UP WITH THE ISLAND? WAS THAT CONSIDERED NOT A PROBLEM?

>> THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WAS THAT THERE WAS TRAFFIC THAT TURNS LEFT OUT OF PINGREE AND THEN KIND OF WAITS IN THE CENTER TO COME INTO THE TRAFFIC LANE.

THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY SHORTENED THE ISLAND BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE HAD PROPOSED A MUCH LONGER ISLAND.

THAT'S HOW WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THAT PARTICULAR CONCERN.

>> D. SMITH: TO CLARIFY MR. ROBINSON'S QUESTION, THE SIGN ON THE NORTH, THESE ARE TWO-SIDED LIT?

>> YES. >> D. SMITH: HOW ARE YOU ATTACHING IT TO THE SIGN AND BOTH SIDES WHERE YOU WILL

BE ABLE TO SEE IT? >> IT'S NOT A TWO-SIDED SIGN.

THERE ARE TWO SIGNS. >> D. SMITH: SO TWO SIGNS ON THE

ONE POST? >> YES.

ONE ON EACH SIDE. >> D. SMITH: THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY GETS HALF WAY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE ISLAND.

HOW DO THEY GET OVER? >> THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE THE ENTIRE WAY WITHOUT STOPPING. BUT IF THEY DO HAPPEN TO GET STOPPED, IF A CAR COMES, THEY CAN CROSS WHEN THE LIGHT IS NOT FLASHING. YOU CAN ACTIVATE THE LIGHTS TO

BE LONGER IF YOU FEEL NECESSARY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AT THE GRACE OF WHEN THE CARS STOP COMING?

>> THERE IS NOT A WAY TO ACTIVATE IT IN THE CENTER.

YOU COULD INCLUDE IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. FOU

ST? >> D. FOUST: IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE NEXT CLOSEST LIGHT, HARTFORD.

IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT WHETHER THIS SHOULD SOMEHOW BE COORDINATED? CAN IT BE SYNCED UP WITH THE

LIGHT SO THAT -- >> OUR RRFB'S CANNOT BE SYNCED

UP WITH THE LIGHT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I'VE NOTICED WITH THE PEDESTRIAN BEACON, IT SEEMS TO BE OPERATING WELL, PEOPLE STILL LOOK CONFUSED WHAT TO DO. I WOULD APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING YOUR EXPERIENCE ON HOW PEOPLE INTERPRET THESE FLASHING SIGNS BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF I'VE SEEN ONE BEFORE.

>> THERE IS A FEDERAL DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THAT RRFB'S DO HAVE A FAIRLY HIGH RATE OF PEOPLE FOLLOWING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE -- IT IS OHIO LAW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP FOR SOMEBODY IN THE CROSSWALK. THERE IS THE FIRST IDEA.

THE SECOND IS THIS IS A LIGHT THAT ONLY FLASHES WHEN A PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATES IT. IT DRAWS YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP.

I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME TYPE OF EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IN CONJUNCTION WITH INSTALLING IT. IT'S GREAT TO DO THAT AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IT'S EASIER TO DO IT AT

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THAT LEVEL. AND ALSO PUT OUT EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND WEBSITE.

TO GET THE WORD OUT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: ANOTHER QUESTION, YOU TALKED ABOUT LENGTHING THE TIME OF THE LIGHT FOR OLDER RESIDENTS AND MAYBE YOUNGER RESIDENTS IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF KIDS OR BIKES AND THINGS YOU DON'T WANT THEM STUCK IN THE MIDDLE. SO I WOULD, I MEAN, WE'RE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TALKING ABOUT AGE-FRIENDLY WORTHINGTON, AND ONE OF HOSE COMPONENTS WOULD BE HAVING LONG ENOUGH CROSSING TIME. I SAY WE DEFAULT TO THE LONGEST TIME AND FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> R. DOROTHY: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO WHAT IS THE -- WHAT ARE YOU TAKING INTO ACCOUNT FOR

PEDESTRIAN'S TRAVEL TIME? >> SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOUR TRAVELING TIME FOR PEDESTRIAN IS 4.2-FOOT PER SECOND.

IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING OLDER ADULTS WITH LIMITED MOBILITY, 3.8 FEET PER SECOND, SOMETIMES LESS THAN THAT.

>> R. DOROTHY: I WOULD SUGGEST THE 3 PER SECOND.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.

I THINK 4.2 IS QUITE FAST. I'M GLAD WE'RE STARTING THIS.

WHEN WE HAVE -- WHEN SOMEONE IS IN THE CROSSWALK, THEY HAVE THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS ACTUAL STATE LAW?

>> R. DOROTHY: IT DOESN'T MATTER IF Y YOU ARE THE PERSON AND SOMEONE IN A 2-TON VEHICLE COMES BY.

>> CORRECT. YES.

>> R. DOROTHY: THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IMPEDE ANYONE'S TRAFFIC BUT TRYING TO GET THE MOST VULNERABLE USERS ACROSS SAFELY WITHOUT GETTING SMOOSHED ON THE ROAD. YES; TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, WE DON'T WANT ROAD KILL OF ANY SORT.

ALTHOUGH, WE HAD DEER IN THE PAST RECENTLY ON OUR STREETS.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE ON THE STREETS FLATTENED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BIT LONGER TIME.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO WAIT AND SEE. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID LIKE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY, WE USED TO HAVE THE YELLOW PEDESTRIAN SIGNS THAT WE KEPT OUT. LIKE ON HIGH STREET, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD THOSE ON THE PEDESTRIAN ISLAND TEMPORARILY, PEDESTRIANS HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE CROSSWALKS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM BACK OUT ON HIGH STREET ACTUALLY AT THE -- OUR EXISTING BEACONS. BUT I'M VERY HAPPY WITH ALL THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN MOTORIZED VEHICLE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

>> D. SMITH: THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR. HURLEY.

BUT THE ARNING SIGN THAT PROCEEDS COMING WESTBOUND ON 161, DO YOU KNOW WHAT PROPERTY? THAT'S NOT ON THE CORNER LOT PROPERTY IS THAT OR IS IT? I CAN'T TELL FROM THE MEASUREMENTS HERE HOW MANY FEET FROM THE PINGREE STREET IT IS.

DO YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER, MS. PECK?

>> THE STATIONING IS BASICALLY FEET.

THE STATIONING OF THE SIGN TO THE WEST IS PLUS 82.

AND THEN THE STATIONING AT THE CROSSWALK IS 336.

>> D. SMITH: TO THE EAST? >> IF YOU TAKE 336 AND SUBTRACT 82, THAT'S HOW MANY FEET BACK IT IS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON.

NOT ANYMORE? OKAY.

HOW DID THIS COME IN COMPARISON TO OUR BUDGET?

WE BUDGETED FOR THIS. >> BE UNDER THE ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET.

WE NEED TO GO TO BID. THERE WAS A COST ESTIMATE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. WE HAVE THAT AND THE DESIGN COST. YOU MAY HAVE NOTED THE APRON AT PINGREE AND 161 WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THE RESIDENT WHO IVES AT THE CORNER BROUGHT TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD TOOK SERIOUSLY. WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS DURING NEXT YEAR'S STREET PROGRAM.

THERE WILL BE THREE COSTS TO THE PROJECT.

WE EXPECT TO BE WELL UNDER THE $100,000 THRESHOLD AND BE ABLE TO PERHAPS UTILIZE THAT FOR THE UPCOMING PROJECT IN 2020.

ONE ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE, IN RESPONSE TO MS. KOWALCZYK'S QUESTION. WE HAVE A RECTANGULAR FLASHING

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BEACON TO THE ENTRANCE TO OLENTANGY PARKLANDS.

IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPLICATION.

BUT I THINK WE WILL DEFINITELY JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE PHB'S DOWNTOWN, WE'LL DO EDUCATION AS WE START TO COME ONLINE FOR THE COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO MENTION, I'M SORRY, KELLY WAYLAND, OUR CHAIR, HE HAD ANOTHER COMMITMENT.

YOU ARE MOVING ALONG QUICKLY. I TOLD HIM HE WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE AT 8:30. I APPRECIATE KELLY STOPPING IN.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU FOR COMING, KELLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>

>> THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS ARE RECOMMENDED IN AREAS WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN COUNTS ARE HIGHER.

THE PEDESTRIAN COUNTS BECAUSE THE CITY DID TAKE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN COUNTS AT THIS LOCATION, THE PEDESTRIAN COUNTS ARE NOT THAT HIGH AT THIS LOCATION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL? WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN.

I'M SORRY. >> I WISH I HAD A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE TOTAL LAYOUT OF THE LENGTHS AND STREET.

I'VE DRIVEN IT DAILY FOR THE LAST FEW DECADES SO I SHOULD HAVE THIS IN MY HEAD. BUT TRY TO PICTURE IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY WITH THAT 6-INCH RISE OF SOMEONE GETTING CONFUSED AND DRIVING DOWN WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE TURN LANE SECTION OF THAT PIECE OF ROAD THINKING THERE IS A LEFT TURN WHEN THERE ISN'T.

I REALIZE IT'S THE PARK BUT WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF SOMEBODY TAKING OUT THEIR OIL PAN AND CRASHING OVER THE CENTER ISLAND?

>> D. SMITH: BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THE ISLAND WAS PEOPLE WERE WORRIED OF LEFT OF CENTER DRIVERS ESSENTIALLY. MAYBE HAVE SOME ENGINEERING EXPERTISE IN THAT, PEOPLE AVOIDING ISLANDS.

>> YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD S ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAID, YIELD WHEN PEDESTRIANS ARE IN THE CROSSWALK. YOU COULD ADD THOSE SIGNS WHICH WOULD DRAW ATTENTION TO SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. YOU COULD ADD DELINEATORS AROUND THE ISLAND TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT.

HOWEVER, WE DID POSITION THE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND SO IT WASN'T LOCATED WHERE IT WOULD BE GOING IF THEY REALIZED, YOU KNOW -- OF COURSE END UP THERE. PEOPLE TURNING LEFT ON PINGREE WILL BE IN THE TURN LANE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION. SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYONE TURNING OR IN THAT TURN LANE AT THAT LOCATION.

BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANYWHERE FROM THEM TO TURN.

>> D. FOUST: WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THE EAST AND WEST EDGES OF THE ISLAND SOMEHOW BEING TAPERER SO IT WOULD COME ACROSS LIKE AN AWKWARD SPEED BUMP RATHER THAN A BREAK YOUR

AXLE TRASH YOUR ENGINE HIT. >> PART OF THE REASON TO PUT IT THERE IS TO TRY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BEING IN THAT AREA WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS.

WE ARE TRYING TO DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM BEING THERE.

WE DON'T REALLY LIKE TO PUT IN RAMPED THINGS FOR VEHICLES BECAUSE DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THEY ARE GOING IT CAN LAUNCH THEM AND WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'RE DOING A MOTION -- TAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROCURING BIDS.

>> D. ROBINSON: ONE FINAL COMMENT.

WITHOUT SEEING IT OBVIOUSLY, OTHER THAN ON PAPER, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A PERFECT BALANCE OF PRAGMATIC EFFECTIVENESS AND NOT OVER VOLUNTEERING IT. WHEN I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE PROCEEDING WITH DESIGNS, I LIVE DOWN THE STREET AND HOPING IN FACT WE WOULD NOT HAVE A MAST ARM I FELT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVERDOING IT. THIS IS ACROSS FROM A PARK AND

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WILL BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN.

THANK YOU, DARREN. >> R. DOROTHY: ECHO MR. ROBINSON'S COMMENTS. EVERYTHING WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WORKED THROUGH WITH THE CONSULTING TEAM AND BIKE AND PED COMMITTEE AND MR. HURLEY AND MS. I ANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE

HARD WORK IN THIS PLAN. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO YOU MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

PROCURING BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT? >> YES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SECOND BY MS. KOWALCZYK.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN.

AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE CONSULTANT, THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN AND PARKS AND REC STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK YOU PUT IN AND THE TIME.

IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME. BUT WE'RE EXCITED IN HAVING WALKED THAT AREA QUITE A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR, THIS IS A VERY NEEDED SAFETY SITUATION. SO WE'RE LAD THAT'S GOING TO HELP AND CONNECT THE COMMUNITY. IT REALLY IS A LONG DISTANCE BETWEEN ANY CROSSWALK BETWEEN THE TWO CROSSWALKS AND WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO IN. OKAY.

[8.B.I. Distribution of Proposed Age Friendly Resolution and Age Friendly Planning Process Proposal prepared by Council Member Kowalczyk]

MOVING ON. PROPOSED AGE FRIENDLY RESOLUTION AND AGE FRIENDLY PROCESS SENT OUT IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKETS.

MR. GREESON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH THAT?

>> M. GREESON: YEAH. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR INTERNAL WORK QUITE A BIT ON AGE FRIENDLY PLANNING.

AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK PREPARED THE MATERIALS THAT ARE -- THAT HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED AS PART OF THIS PACKET.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HER BECAUSE SHE WOULD LIKE US TO -- LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS NEXT WEEK.

AND HELP FURTHER ADVANCE YOUR PRIORITY OF BECOMING AGE

FRIENDLY. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THANK YOU, MATT. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA. AS MATT SAID, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. SOME INFORMAL FEEDBACK GATHERING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PRESENTATIONS.

THERE WAS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WE SAW THE RESULTS OF THE WORK AND IDENTIFYING THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING TO BECOME AGE FRIENDLY.

WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS, THIS AN INITIATIVE WE HAD SECOND ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AT THE BEGINNING OF YEAR, UPON THE CONCLUSION OF OUR RETREAT. AND AT OUR LAST DISCUSSION AFTER MS. JOHNSON'S PRESENTATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS NEXT. AND TALK ABOUT A RESOLUTION.

SO I KNOW THERE WERE STILL SOME WORK THAT I THINK STAFF HAD TO DO. BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT THIS OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT.

I DRAFTED A RESOLUTION THAT MIRRORS THE TEMPLATE THAT ARP, THE NATIONAL OFFICE SUGGESTS WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT OHIO AND A LOT OF THIS LOOKS LIKE WESTERVILLE'S ORDINANCE AS WELL. AND WHAT THE INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION IS IS TO KICK-OFF A PROCESS OF US AS A CITY, MAKING A COMMITMENT TO TAKE A DELIBERATE AND THOUGHTFUL REVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE SHOULD BE AS A COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF BEING AGE FRIENDLY. WE HEARD ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN MANY SESSIONS AND HOW WE'RE ALL AGING AND LIVING LONGER.

AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY REALLY NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

SO THE OTHER DOCUMENT I SUBMITTED WAS JUST MY THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW IT COULD WORK. I KNOW THE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT RESOURCES, ABOUT STAFF COMMITMENT AND FUNDING.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITIES GOING ON IN THE CITY IN OUR WORK. AND THINGS WE JUST VOTED ON TONIGHT. AND I DON'T WANT TO DICTATE THE PROCESS. I WANT STAFF TO HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. HOWEVER, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE AT A COMMUNITY, WHAT S HAPPENING AROUND US IN CENTRAL OHIO AND THE NATION, AND THE MOMENTUM THIS HAS TAKEN ON, I TALK ABOUT THIS IN MY DAY JOB ALL THE TIME AND EVERYONE IS REALLY EXCITED AND MOTIVATED TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE SOME REALLY GREAT CHANGES TO MOVE US TO BE AGE FORWARD AS WELL AS AGE FRIENDLY.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO ACT.

AND SO I AM JUST ASKING THAT THIS BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK

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FOR A VOTE. AND CONSIDERATION FOR MOVING FORWARD. AND I WANT TO OPEN IT UP IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE OBJECTED TO, IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE RESOLUTION BASICALLY IS SAYING THE CITY IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD INTO A 5-YEAR PROJECT THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT OF OUR OWN DECISION MAKING ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE VARIOUS PHASES. THIS IS MAKING THE COMMITMENT TO A 5-YEAR PROJECT TO GET THROUGH AND THE VARIOUS PHASES WERE

LISTED ON THE ATTACHMENT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: RIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION WE HAD AS WELL.

BUT THERE IS A PLANNING PHASE, WHICH IS ONE TO TWO YEARS.

WE HAVE TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW -- HOW TO GATHER FEEDBACK AND TO DO THAT OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN. AND THEN IMPLEMENTING IT.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES TO DRAW FROM.

THERE ARE OVER 400 COMMUNITIES AND I THINK NOW MAYBE 7 STATES THAT HAVE JOINED THIS NETWORKER OF AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES, THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND SEVERAL IN OHIO THAT ARE ALSO GOING THROUGH IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WE CAN LEARN FROM. THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AND FOLKS INVESTED IN THIS IDEA IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I SEE IT AS A COMMUNITY-LED PROJECT.

AND 'M HOPING THAT WE CAN REALLY DRAW UPON THE EXISTING RESOURCES WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

>> R. DOROTHY: WHAT I FIND SO INTRIGUING ABOUT THIS PROCESS THAT HAS A FORMAL FRAMEWORK WITH NATIONAL AGENCY AND H HAS A LOTF OTHER EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND CLOSE TO HOME, IS IT DOES EXPLORE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS A COUNCIL WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH, OUTDOOR SPACES, BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING, SOCIAL PARTICIPATION, RESPECT AND SOCIAL INCLUSION, WORK AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION, COMMUNITY AND HEALTH SERVICES, IT GIVES EXAMPLES WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK, WHAT SORTS OF METRICS, THINGS WE CAN DIG DOWN AND SEE WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK IT GIVES A NICE OVERALL ARCHING FRAMEWORK AND GOOD GOAL TIME COMMITMENT TO LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS WITHOUT OVERLY PROMISING ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNITY BUT DOING GOOD EXAMINATION AND WHAT BEST PRACTICES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK IT'S A VERY INTRIGUING

FORMAT TO ENGAGE IN. >> D. ROBINSON: MS. KOWALCZYK, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE.

I UNDERSTAND NEXT WEEK IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS,

CORRECT? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I WANTED TO ENSURE YOU HAD THE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU SO WE COULD --

>> D. ROBINSON: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I'M EAGER TO TALK ABOUT IT. APPARENTLY, THIS WEEK IS NOT THE

TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU ARE

WELCOME TO. >>

>> D. ROBINSON: MOTION TO -- >> D. FOUST: I THINK WE NEED A

DISCUSSION. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I THINK THERE WAS ANTICIPATION OF OUR AGENDA TAKING LONGER, WHICH WAS WHY

THIS WAS -- >> D. ROBINSON: OKAY.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS NEXT WEEK.

MY COMMENT RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO BE MAY BE WHEN I STUDY THIS MORE THOROUGHLY I WILL ANSWER MY OWN QUESTIONS.

A QUESTION IS I HAVE IS NOT OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO AGE-FRIENDLY POLICIES BUT SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WOULD OUR RELATIONSHIP BE WITH AARP AND THEIR ROLE IN THIS? SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK UNLESS YOU WANT

TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I CAN GIVE YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY AND IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE CAN REACH OUT TO AARP. BUT THEIR ROLE IN THESE PROCESSES IS TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES, NOT TO LEAD INITIATIVES. AND SO THERE IS A PROCESS BUT IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE. IT'S A FRAMEWORK.

BUT IT'S REALLY AS MUCH AS INVOLVEMENT AS YOU WANT ASIDE WE SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND THEY SIGN-OFF ON THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT OF INVOLVEMENT OTHER THAN THAT.

THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SUPPORT IN RESOURCES IF WE DECIDE TO DRAW UPON THAT. POTENTIALLY, YES.

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>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES. BUT I THINK WHEN YOU FIRST READ THIS, YOUR RESOLUTION, THIS IS WONDERFUL STUFF.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THIS THAN WHAT IS ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER.

AND IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SOUL SEARCHING IN THIS COMMUNITY AND CONTRADICT THINGS WE'VE DONE.

AND BRING TO THE HEAD SOME THINGS WE HAVE AVOIDED OR OPPOSED. THE ONE THAT COMES TO MY MIND FIRST, AND PROBABLY THE SIMPLEST ONE IS TRANSPORTATION.

WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN WORTHINGTON. AND WE REJECTED IT AS MANY TIMES AS WE TRIED. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE START DOWN THIS 5-YEAR PLAN AND WE REALIZE SOME OF THE GOALS HERE RUN HEAD LONG INTO CONTRARY GOALS. AND WE REALIZE, WE CAN'T DO THIS. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS HERE THAT POSSIBLY WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT OUR CITIZENS AREN'T GOING TO LIKE AND SUPPORT.

THEY ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF AGE FRIENDLY.

THAT'S A NICE BIG TITLE. WHEN THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD, I THINK THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE WAY THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK, IT DEPENDS ON THE FEEDBACK OF THE RESIDENTS. ON WHAT THEY PERCEIVE IS THE NEED AND THE WAYS WE CAN FILL THAT NEED.

AND SO THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND IN TERMS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT THEY SUGGEST OR WE CAN DISCOVER THROUGH OTHER COMMUNITIES.

IT'S NOT A ONE-SIZED FITS ALL, IT'S NOT PUBLIC TRANSIT OR NOT.

AND THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THAT.

I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT I KNOW IS A CONCERN IS HOW THIS IS POTENTIALLY RUNNING ALONGSIDE THE VISIONING PROCESS. AND WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT THE VISIONING PROCESS IS BE THE STARTING POINT FOR LOOKING AT FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN FOCUSING ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WOULD BE PERTINENT TO THIS PROJECT. SO HAVING THAT VISIONING PROCESS GOING FORWARD AND GATHERING THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN ALSO BEING DELIBERATE IN ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE TO GET FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND FROM SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OTHERS THAT I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. IT WON'T BY SOMETHING IMPOSED

UPON THEM. >> D. FOUST: THERE ARE SIX OF THE EIGHT CONCEPTS HERE I'M WHOLLY ONBOARD WITH.

THERE ARE A COUPLE I FEEL ARE A BIT OF OVERREACH.

IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MODIFY OR WHITTLE THEM DOWN, I WOULD FEEL BETTER. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION, I THINK WE ALL AGREED CONCEPTUALLY THAT AGE FRIENDLY AT THE RETREAT ALMOST A YEAR AGO IS LIKE BABIES AND SUNSHINE, WHO WILL SAY NO? IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

BUT NUMBER FIVE, THE RESPECT AND SOCIAL INCLUSION, PROGRAMS TO PROMOTE ETHNIC AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY, I THINK OF THERE RECENTLY PASSED ANTIDISCRIMINATION POLICY AND THERE ROLE OF THE CRC AND I'M NOT SURE, AGAIN, ALL GOOD CONCEPTS, DO THEY BELONG AS A PART OF THIS CONCEPT? AND I GUESS THESE EIGHT ARE PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE AARP ITSELF LAYS OUT THE PROGRAM, RIGHT?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: AS CONCEPTS, OVERALL CONCEPTS, YES.

THE CITY OF COLUMBUS ADJUSTED THEIR EIGHT DOMAINS.

I THINK THERE IS FLEXIBILITY THERE.

AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED HINGS WE'RE DOING IN THOSE AREAS. WE MAY FIND SOMETHING THAT'S IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT WE'RE EXPANDING.

THESE CAN BE SMALL THINGS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HUGE, HEAVY LIFTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS' PLAN, THERE ARE NUMBER OF THINGS THEY ADAPTED FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE AGE-FRIENDLY USINESS DIRECTORY IDEA. SO THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY, THEY CAN BE IF WE THINK THEY ARE THAT IMPORTANT BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE SMALL ARE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT I THINK ON

THE COMMUNITY. >> D. FOUST: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I GUESS TO MY POINT, AGAIN, AGE

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FRIENDLY, SUPPORT THE CONCEPT. ETHNIC AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY, WE ALL SUPPORT THE CONCEPT. DO THEY BELONG MARRIED TOGETHER IN THIS PARTICULAR EXERCISE? I QUESTION THAT PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT SEEMS TO BE LIKE A FITS.

I ALSO LOOK TO A LESSER EXTENT, THAT'S NUMBER FIVE.

I LOOK AT NUMBER EIGHT. COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND HEALTH SERVICES HOME HEALTHCARE SERVICES, ET CETERA. FEELS LIKE WE'RE STEPPING INTO THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY REALM, RATHER THAN THE FUNCTION OF WHAT I CONSIDER NORMAL PARTS OF RUNNING A CITY. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S AT LEAST A CONVERSATION. I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ACTION NEXT WEEK. THERE IS MORE ABOUT THIS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. IF I'M THE ONLY ONE, I GUESS

I'LL WAVE OFF. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS E DO IS AN INVENTORY.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND IS A LOT OF THE THINGS ON HERE WE'RE ALREADY DO. WE'RE GOING TO CHECK THE BOXES.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO EXPAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT'S WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YEAH, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH CRC, THROUGH WHAT NOT TO SATISFY NUMBER FIVE.

I THINK WE'VE DONE ENOUGH, WE DON'T NEED TO DO MORE OR HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE. COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

WE ALREADY FUND MEALS ON WHEELS. SOME OF THE STUFF I THINK WE'RE ALREADY DOING. AND WHAT WE MAY FIND WHEN WE TAKE INVENTORY, I THINK WE'VE SATISFIED NUMBER EIGHT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE CAN DEVOTE RESOURCES

SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> D. FOUST: DO WE WANT TO ADOPT ALL EIGHT AS A PART OF AGE FRIENDLY.

ARE THEY A FIT OR NOT? THAT IS THE QUESTION I'M RAISING. AGAIN, IF SIX OUT OF SEVEN FOLKS SAY THIS IS GREAT, I'M READY TO ROLL WITH IT, I'M ONLY ONE.

THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE, MS. KOWALCZYK, IS THE WHOLE CONNECTION WITH AARP. ONLY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK FOR EXAMPLE, AND I SAY THIS AS AN INDEPENDENT, I HAVE NO DOG IN THIS FIGHT POLITICALLY. BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR EXAMPLE IN 2018, AARP, THEY CAN'T DISCLAIM THEMSELVES AS EING INDEPENDENT IN TERMS OF THE POLITICAL ARENA. 92% OF THEIR POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS WENT TO ONE PARTY AND THE OTHER 8% WENT TO ANOTHER. THEY ARE NOT WHAT I WOULD CALL SWITZERLAND. AND I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT WAS TO THE D'S OR R'S, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THE NOTION HERE IS THAT TO SOMEHOW EMBRACE AARP, TO USE THEM AS A RESOURCE, TO DRAW N THEIR EXPERTISE, TO USE THE FRAMEWORK AND RESOURCES THEY SUGGEST IS ONE THING.

TO COMMIT OURSELVES TO -- AND SOMEHOW REPORTING TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, AGAIN, FEELS LIKE A BIGGER REACH THAN I'M INTERESTED IN MAKING BECAUSE OF WHO IT IS.

IF THEY WERE A WHOLLY INDEPENDENT SWITZERLAND LIKE PARTY, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. BUT THAT'S NOT MY FEELING.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE.

I NORMALLY DON'T SAY A WHOLE LOT.

ON NUMBER EIGHT, WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE GRISWOLD CENTER, WE HAVE SERVICES PROVIDED AND NOT JUST MEALS ON WHEELS, BUT COUNSELING AND HEALTHCARE SERVICES, A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING. IN SOME WAYS, WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOWCASING TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE. THE SENIOR SI CITIZENS REALIZE T A LOT OF OTHERS DON'T. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO PARTICIPATE IN A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION OF THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES, CENTRAL OHIO COMMUNITIES TALKING ABOUT WITH THE AGE FRIENDLY. AND THEY HAD US ALL MIXUP.

EVERY TABLE AND QUESTION WAS DIFFERENT.

YOU WERE A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAN BEFORE.

WHAT I FOUND COMING OUT OF THAT IS THAT PEOPLE HAD DIFFERENT THINGS THEY WERE DOING IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, TAYLORING ITEMS INTO THINGS THAT WERE GOOD FOR THEIR COMMUNITY R HIGHLIGHTING THE GOOD THINGS THEIR COMMUNITY WAS OING.

PART OF THE IT IS LOOKING FORWARD IN A PLANNING SENSE AND HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND WE HAVE IDEAS AND THINGS WE CAN PICK FROM OTHER PEOPLE AS NEEDED.

AND CITIZENS INVOLVED IN IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAKE

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GOOD SENSE. >> B. KOWALCZYK: A FOLLOW-UP ON A COUPLE OF POINTS. IN TERMS OF NUMBER FIVE AND EIGHT, I THINK THAT THE DESCRIPTION OF RESPECT AND SOCIAL INCLUSION IS POTENTIAL IDEAS.

IT ALSO RESPECT SOCIAL INCLUSION INCLUDES PROGRAMS TO COMBAT LONELINESS AND OCIAL ISOLATION AND MULTIGENERATIONAL INTERACTION AND DIALOGUE. THEY STARTED DOING SOME OF THE MULTIGENERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY TRAINING AT THE GRISWOLD CENTER.

OTHER THINGS CONSENT CALENDAR IDENTIFIED, MAYBE TARGETING VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES O FOLKS OR OTHER WAYS TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS. AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY O DO BEFORE. THE SAME GOES WITH NUMBER EIGHT.

IT MENTIONS PHYSICAL EXERCISE AND HEALTHY HABITS.

THIS IS NOT LIST OF MUST HAVES.

IT'S A LIST OF SUGGESTED ITEMS THAT CAN OCCUR UNDER THOSE DOMAINS. I DO AGREE THEY CAN BE MORE FLEXIBLE IF WE FIND THERE ARE TOO RESTRICTIVE OR WE THINK SOMETHING ELSE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY BETTER FIT, WE CAN PROPOSE THAT.

IN TERMS OF AARP, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES TO SOME DEGREE. I CAN SAY THAT THIS INITIATIVE IS A WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION INITIATIVE.

AARP, THE NATIONAL OFFICE IS A IT'S OWN SEPARATE DIVISION, LIVABLE COMMUNITIES HAS UNDERTAKEN THIS FOR THE UNITED STATES. SO THIS IS REALLY AN INTERNATIONAL INITIATIVE. AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS AARP IS THE ONE THAT IS ORGANIZING IT THROUGH THEIR NETWORK.

AND TO THAT POINT, I THINK THE TALK ABOUT US NOT LIKING THE IDEA OF GE FRIENDLY IS NOT ENOUGH.

WE ACTUALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL AND THOUGHTFUL AND CONSCIENTIOUS EXAMINING OF OUR COMMUNITY BASED ON EVERYTHING WE HEARD ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE FUTURE. WE NEED A PLAN AND HERE'S A PLAN. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN CENTRAL OHIO AND IN THE STATE DOING IT.

THEY HAVE BANDED TOGETHER IN A COALITION TO SHARE RESOURCES, SURVEY QUESTIONS, IDEAS, AND WAYS TO COMMUNICATE.

AND AARP IS NOT DRIVING THAT AT ALL.

THEY ARE OFFERING SUPPORT. TO KIND OF, I WANTED TO ADDRESS HAD SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. I'M APPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK MORE AND HAVE OTHER FOLKS ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

I REALLY THINK WE EED TO DO MORE THAN EMBRACE THE CONCEPT.

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. >> D. FOUST: TO COME BACK TO THE EARLIER COMMENT. I ONLY PARSED OUT ABOUT A COUPLE OF KEY PHRASES HERE. MULTIGENERATIONAL INTERACTION AND DIALOGUE, COMBAT LONELINESS, WHOLLY SUPPORT THEM.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT FEEL LIKE WE'RE MUDDYING THE WATERS IN TERMS F AGE FRIENDLY. THAT IS ONE.

TWO, THE LIST OF OHIO CITIES AND COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE EMBRACED THIS SO YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT THIS IS FROM THE AARP WEBSITE, INCLUDES SEVERAL LARGE CITIES, AKRON, CINCINNATI, CLEVELAND AND COLUMBUS. THE CITY OF OXFORD, WESTERVILLE, AND YELLOW SPRINGS IN 2019. THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITIES SIMILAR SIZE TO US THAT HAVE IN FACT ADOPTED THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ADOPTED THE FULL EIGHT AND UNEDITED OR NOT.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: SOME ARE STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGES.

>> D. FOUST: WE'RE NOT FALLING BEHIND HERE IN A IANT TREND.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PROCEED THOUGHTFULLY AND LIKE TO HEAR FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT IF THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THE CREACTION OF THIS MIGHT MEAN IN TERMS OF STAFF RESOURCES.

ANY THOUGHTS THERE? >> M. GREESON: WE MAY BE BETTER PREPARED TO DO THAT NEXT WEEK. IF IT'S A DIALOGUE CONTINUING.

I'M REMINDED THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE PLATFORMS FOR CONVENING ON ISSUES THAT ARE BROADER THAN US SOMETIMES.

AND CERTAINLY, HIS IS ONE THAT WE CAN PLAY A ROLE IN ONVENING

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COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT WE MAY NOT IMPLEMENT.

SO I REFLECT THAT, I MEAN, I BEW THOSE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST ON ISSUES LIKE AGE FRIENDLY. MS. KOWALCZYK AND I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT INSTITUTIONALIZING OR CREATING YET ANOTHER ADVISORY BOARD WE WOULD HAVE TO STAFF OR OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT A MAJOR PLANNING INITIATIVE WHILE WE'RE DOING VISIONING AND WHILE WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF PROJECTS COMING OUR WAY.

>> M. GREESON: I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT AND PLAY A CONVENING ROLE AND GAIN TRACTION WITHOUT INHIBITING OUR ABILITY TO ALSO IN A HIGHLY-PROFESSIONAL WAY SUPPORT EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE DOING.

AND I'M WRESTLING WITH THAT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THAT'S WHY I CAME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE A BOARD RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN DO MORE OUTREACH. WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GATHER FEEDBACK THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS.

AND THEN TALK ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE INITIATIVES DO NOT HAVE TO BE CITY LED.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO. AND THEY CAN BE PART OF THIS.

AND I THINK I OUTLINED A LOT OF THAT IN MY SUGGESTIONS.

TO THOSE POINTS, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT RESOURCES, ABOUT BEING -- HAVING A LARGE NUMBER OF PRIORITIES.

I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS PRIORITY THAT WE INTENDED TO HAVE SOMETHING COME OUT OF IT OTHER THAN IT'S LISTED AS SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO PUT THIS FORWARD.

AND SO HOW COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT IT.

AGAIN, I THINK IT CAN BE A GRADUAL TWO-YEAR PLANNING PROCESS WHERE WE CAN -- WE DON'T HAVE TO WORK ON SOMETHING

IMMEDIATELY. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MICHAEL. TWO QUESTIONS, THESE ARE QUESTIONS I ASK MYSELF. MAYBE DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK.

IF WE FOLLOW THIS APPROACH OF SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION WITH AARP, ARE WE SAYING THAT WE EMBRACE IN A POSITIVE WAY THE I ASSUME ELEMENTS THAT THEY LIST UNDER THE EIGHTH HEADINGS, ARE WE ESSENTIALLY COMMITTING OURSELVES TO SAYING WE THINK THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS? OR SIMPLY AYING WE VIEW AARP AS A RESOURCE AND AN ORGANIZATIONAL TOOL, A MEDIUM FOR FACILITATING OUR OWN DISCUSSION? THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS TO ME. IF WE DO THE FORMER, AND IT'S UNDERSTOOD IMPLICITLY WE EMBRACE THEIR VISION, TWO, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD I MIGHT FIND MYSELF SAYING, WAIT A SECOND, I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT IS IMPLICITLY OR EXPLICITLY INVOLVED WITH GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITH AARP? A RELATED QUESTION, IS THERE A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS WITHOUT EXPLICITLY DOING IT WITH AARP? I THINK I REMEMBER IN A DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY MAYBE WHEN THE INTERN PRESENTED, A PLAN NOT FORMERLY WITH AARP.

IS THERE ANOTHER PTION THAT WOULD SATISFY THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRE TO MAKE PROGRESS BUT NOT WITH AARP.

NOT JUDGING BUT THROWING IT OUT THERE.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHTP DUBLIN.

THEY ARE PRIMARILY CITY FUNDED AND DRIVEN.

THEY ARE BUYING AMAZON ECHOES, FUNDING TRANSPORTATION PILOTS.

THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THINGS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AS WE DISCUSSED IN OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION.

HAVING A FRAMEWORK WHERE WE CAN WORK FROM WHERE WE CAN ENERGIZE A COMMUNITY AROUND, I THINK IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.

AND I THINK IT'S NECESSARY. OTHERWISE, I DON'T SEE AN

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ALTERNATIVE PLAN BEING PROPOSED. I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSING IDEAS.

BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF NOT HAVING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL. AND IT'S INCREDIBLY FLEXIBLE.

SO WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO A HUGE ENDEAVOR.

WE'RE COMMITTING TO COLLECTING FEEDBACK.

PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN AND IDENTIFYING THINGS WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.

SHORT-TERM, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER TERM GOALS IN TERMS OF MOVING TOWARDS AN AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, PERIOD.

ANYTHING ELSE I THINK IS REALLY UP TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND WHAT WE DECIDE WE CAN COMMIT TO.

BUT IT REALLY IS SOMETHING I THINK THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE

CAN CONTRIBUTE TO. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: RESULT OF THIS PROCESS AN ASPIRATIONAL AND GUIDANCE DOCUMENT OR A PRESCRIPTIVE DOCUMENT?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: IT WOULD BE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

IT WOULD BE AS THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE SEEN HAVE DONE IT, THEY IDENTIFY VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY INTEND TO HAVE IMPLEMENTED. AND THEY ARE EITHER SHORT-TERM OR LONG-TERM. THEY MAY NOT GET THEM.

BUT THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR INITIATIVES THAT ARE

PROPOSED. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS:

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I GUESS IN THAT SENSE, ALTHOUGH, IT IS FLEXIBLE IN THE SENSE YOU CAN DECIDE YOU CANNOT ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING, YOU'VE DECIDED THIS IS WHAT WE NEED BUT WE CAN'T DO T AT THIS

TIME. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MIC] -- I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED IF WE ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND IT BECOMES CODIFIED. AND THEREFORE, IT IS THE LAW.

YOU WILL DO IT. AS OPPOSED TO AN ASPIRATIONAL DOCUMENT THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LIVE AND GROW AND STAY IN WORTHINGTON. AND HERE ARE THE THINGS WE HOPE TO DO TO MAKE THIS MUCH LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH SUSTAINABILITY.

WE'VE MADE IT A FRONT OF MIND THING AS OPPOSED TO YES, WE HAVE

TO DO IT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: SO IT'S IN BETWEEN THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE PLANS, MASTER PLANS THAT ARE NOT CODIFIED. THEY ARE THINGS WE IDENTIFIED

THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE DONE. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: BUT WE

DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THEM. >> B. KOWALCZYK: IN THE SENSE WE'VE DECIDED WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THINGS AND TRY TO GET THEM DONE. IDEALLY WE IDENTIFY THINGS WE CAN GET DONE. BUT IT'S NOT CODIFIED AND IT'S NOT JUST A STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES.

IT'S IN BETWEEN THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? >>

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT.

LET'S GO. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS OR REVISIONS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SEE, CAN WE SHARE THEM WITH THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK? MAYBE THOUGHTS OR THINGS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, YES?

>> D. ROBINSON: ANTICIPATE NEXT WEEK, CAN WE EXPECT TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION LIKE THIS WHERE WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND REALLY EXPLORE IT? I'M REALLY GOING TO DIG IN AND

STUDY THIS WEEK -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MORE QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK UPFRONT. THESE ARE TO HAVE THE ANSWERS

READY FOR YOU. >> D. ROBINSON: I UNDERSTAND.

NEXT WEEK WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST VOTE, I HOPE.

I HOPE WE CAN TALK AGAIN ABOUT IT.

IS THAT THE CASE? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF WE DON'T VOTE ON IT NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE A THIRD MEETING IN

DECEMBER. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I THINK THERE WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS.

>> D. FOUST: ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE MUST VOTE ON THIS BEFORE THE

YEAR IS OUT? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NO.

IF WE HAVE -- IF NEXT WEEK IS CONTINUED DISCUSSION WITHOUT A RESOLUTION, EITHER AYE OR NAY, I'M HOPING NEXT WEEK WE HAVE A RESOLUTION, EITHER NAY OR AYE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT, IN A REVISED SITUATION OR NOT AT ALL.

A, B, AND C, AS IS, AS REVISED OR NOT T ALL.

THREE OPTIONS. >> D. FOUST: TO THAT END, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND MR. ROBINSON'S QUESTION, I WOULD DIRECT TO

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MS. KOWALCZYK, ARE YOU -- HOW MARRIED ARE YOU TO THE WORDING? ARE YOU OPEN TO ANY NEGOTIATION IN TERMS OF FOR EXAMPLE FIVE AND

EIGHT? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FOR SURE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A REQUIREMENT ON THE WHAT EXACTLY WE HAVE TO SUBMIT BECAUSE SOME OFFICIALS SUBMIT LETTERS. WE'RE A CITY COUNCIL SO WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A RESOLUTION. BUT I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS DEFINITELY FLEXIBLE. YES.

YES. ALTHOUGH, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD SAY HAT CULTURAL DIVERSITY S SOMETHING WE NECESSARILY WANT TO TAKE OUT. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. >> D. FOUST: JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S A GREAT THING. CULTURAL DIVERSITY IS A GREAT THING. AGE FRIENDLY IS A GREAT THING.

I JUST FEEL WE'RE MIXING APPLES AND ORANGES HERE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION AS TO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NEXT WEEK. IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS VOTE THIS DOWN. BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REACHED A RESOLUTION. I THINK WE TABLE IT AND COME BACK THE NEXT WEEK AND KEEP TALK ABOUT THIS UNTIL E GET IT TO WHERE WE WANT IT. AND THEN WE VOTE IT FF.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT A HARD AND FAST DEADLINE ON THIS.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE WAY MR. ROBINSON RESEARCHES THINGS. HE'LL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

I DON'T WANT TO KILL SOMETHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE

ANSWERS NEXT WEEK. >> D. ROBINSON: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT BUT I SUSPECT MS. KOWALCZYK WILL HAVE ANSWERS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT WOULD SHOCK ME IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE A COME BACK, DAVID, BUT I KNOW THE WAY YOU RESEARCH AND YOU WILL

BE WELL--PREPARED. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT'S WHY I ASKED, IF SHE CAN GET MORE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE, SHE HAS A CHANCE. WE'LL PLAY IT BY EAR.

IT WILL DEFINITELY BE AN AGENDA ITEM.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN GUARANTEE, IT WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM. AND WE CAN FURTHER THE

DISCUSSION. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE REQUEST FOR CONSIDERING IT. I THINK WE NEED TO EEP IT MOVING. IF THAT MEANS CONTINUING DISCUSSION, I AM TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT.

AND APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE SIGNING UP TO DO.

AND I HOPE WE SIGN UP TO DO IT. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHI? ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? IF NOT, MR. GREESON, MOVE ON, ANY OTHER CITY THINGS?

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>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEI WANTED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT AN ITEM THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THE GENDA.

HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE TO EVALUATE OPTIONS FOR INVESTING IN RENOVATIONS AT WORTHINGTON POOLS. I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE A BIG AGENDA ITEM THAT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE ONE. BUT WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PREVIEW A LITTLE BIT WHAT I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOSTING A MEETING, THE SCHOOL SWIM AND CITY TOMORROW AT 6:30 AT THE THOMAS AUDITORIUM.

MIKE KELLER, WHO IS THE NEWLY-ELECTED CHAIR OF SWIM INC., AS WELL AS MYSELF AND DR. BOWERS ARE ALL GOING TO PRESENT. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A BREAK OUT DIALOGUE IN THE CAFETERIA AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS.

I INCLUDE, I EMAILED OUT THIS AFTERNOON INCLUDED AT YOUR PLACES INFORMATION THAT HIGHLIGHTS A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS FOR MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN WORTHINGTON POOLS.

WHICH ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE REQUESTING OUR INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR LIMITED CAPABILITY TO ADDRESS THE REAL NEEDS OF THOSE AQUATIC FACILITIES.

WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY, I THINK KIND OF SOME INTERESTING, I'M NOT SURE I COULD HAVE SCRIPTED IT NY BETTER, THERE NEED FOR FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. CERTAINLY, IN MANY MUNICIPALITIES, PARTICULARLY, QUALITY OF LIFE INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDES THINGS LIKE AQUATIC FACILITIES.

BUT IN TERMS F THE OUTDOOR POOL COMPLEX, WE NEVER HAD A RESPONSIBILITY FOR OPERATING THAT.

WE HAD A THIRD PARTY NOT FOR PROFIT BUILD AND OPERATE AN

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OUTDOOR POOL. HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN THE WORTHINGTON POOLS WITHOUT TRADEOFFS.

I MEAN REDUCTIONS IN SPENDING ON OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR EXISTING C.I.P. OR IN OUR PLANS.

OR NEW REVENUES, MEANING TAXES. OR SOME COMBINATION OF REDUCTIONS OF OR TRADEOFFS OF EXISTING ACTIVITIES AND NEW REVENUES. OUTLINED IN AN ATTACHMENT TO A MEMORANDUM, IS THE VARIOUS SCENARIOS THAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR WAYS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE POOLS.

NONE OF THOSE TRADEOFFS ARE PARTICULARLY GREAT.

BUT I WILL TOUCH ON THEM. ONE, WOULD BE REDUCING AN ALLOCATION FROM MCCORD PARK. ANOTHER WOULD BE USING NERGY SAVINGS FROM OUR CITY BUILDINGS ENERGY CONSERVATION PROJECT.

WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSERVATIVE IN HOW WE APPROACH THAT.

WE DON'T PROGRAM THE SAVINGS UNTIL WE'VE REALIZED IT.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD BE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE ACTUALLY AKE THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS AND PROGRAM IT EITHER TO PAY OFF THE DEBT FOR THE PROJECT OR ESSENTIALLY REDIRECT FUNDS TO SWIM INC.

REDUCING BIKE AND PED IMPROVEMENT ALLOCATIONS AND USING UP TO $500,000 IN GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

THOSE ARE IF WE WERE TO INVEST A MILLION, THERE MAY BE SOME LIMITED COMBINATION OF THOSE OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD DO IF WE WANTED TO INVEST UP TO $3 MILLION, WE WOULD LIKELY NEED TO DO SEVERAL OF THOSE OPTIONS ALTOGETHER.

ABOVE THE $3 MILLION THAT I THINK WE COULD COME UP WITH IF WE TRADED OFF OR CUT EXISTING PRIORITIES OR EXISTING PROGRAMS AS WELL AS REDIRECTING ENERGY SAVINGS, I BELIEVE IT WOULD REQUIRE NEW REVENUES. THOSE NEW REVENUES COULD COME FROM EITHER A CITY MILLAGE, REALLY NOT COMMENTING AT THIS POINT ON VOTED OR UNVOTED. OR THROUGH A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT WHICH WOULD BE SCHOOL DISTRICT WIDE.

IN THIS ATTACHMENT, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE RAN SCENARIOS FROM EVERYTHING FROM A MILLION DOLLARS, $3 MILLION, 5 MILLION , $8 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE OUTDOOR POOL PROJECT. AND THEN LARGER SCENARIOS THAT WOULD INVOLVE RENOVATION OR REPLACEMENT OF AN ADATORIUM.

ABOVE $8 MILLION, $8 MILLION AND ABOVE, ALL OF THOSE, THE 10, 20 AND $25 MILLION OPTIONS WE DIDN'T ANALYZE CITY MILLAGE, ONLY THE JOINT MILLAGE BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BROADER INVOLVEMENT INCLUDING THE ADATORIUM.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE IS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO PUBLICLY START TALKING ABOUT THE TRADEOFFS THAT MAY HAVE TO BE MADE INTERNAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. IF WE ARE TO INVEST IN WORTHINGTON POOLS. AND I THINK I NEED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THIS NALYSIS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL. I DON'T ANTICIPATE BEING PARTICULARLY VERBOSE TOMORROW NIGHT BUT I WILL SHARE A FEW OF THE SLIDES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE -- I DON'T

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THINK WE NEED TO GET INTO EXHAUSTIVE DETAIL AT THIS POINT.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE RE IN THE FIRST TWO BULLETS HERE SEVERAL CONCEPTUAL OPTIONS FOR ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR OTHER EFFORTS.

>> D. ROBINSON: MR. GREESON, CAN I ASK QUESTIONS THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR ACTION? WHEN DO THE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE? SECONDLY, DOLLAR FIGURES RE BEING PUT OUT THERE.

BUT FOR WHAT? IS IT -- ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE OUTDOOR FACILITY? THE AUDITORIUM?

BOTH? >> M. GREESON: BOTH.

THE LARGER DOLLAR FACILITIES IN THE $20 MILLION RANGE, I THINK THE RANGE IS WHAT, 7 TO A LITTLE OVER 20 MILLION, IT WOULD INCLUDE BOTH FACILITIES. AND WE'LL SEE THAT PRESENTATION TOMORROW NIGHT FROM SWIM INC. YOU SAW A VERSION OF IT AT YOUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE BOTH FACILITIES, THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. I BELIEVE THE -- AND I DON'T HAVE IT EFORE ME, I BELIEVE THE OUTDOOR ONLY IS BETWEEN IS IT 8 AND $9 MILLION? OF A SMALLER SCALE.

BOTTOM LINE IS OUR REVIEW INITIALLY OF SWIM INC.'S FINANCES DON'T INDICATE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE MEETS WITH THEM, A SIGNIFICANT ABILITY TO REPAY LOANS.

AND OTHER THAN THE STATE CAPITAL DOLLARS THEY HAVE LIMITED FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT THEY OUTLINED AT THE JOINT MEETING.

>> D. ROBINSON: IS THAT BASED ON THEIR OPERATIONS IN THEIR ENTIRETY? BY THAT, I MEAN BOTH OUTDOOR AND AUDITORIUM FACILITIES? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ONE IS A NET POSITIVE REVENUE AND THE OTHER A NET DRAIN? AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BECAUSE OF THE CITY

AND SCHOOL ROLES. >> M. GREESON: WE'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING INTO THAT MEETING WITH THEM DIRECTLY.

JUST LOOKING AT OVERALL FINANCES.

>> D. ROBINSON: THIS WILL BE THE LAST THING.

>> M. GREESON: WE'LL CLARIFY THAT IN THE FUTURE.

>> D. ROBINSON: WHAT ABOUT THE TIMING FOR OUR DECISION AND ACTION. A YEAR OR ONE MONTH?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK WE HAVE MORE THAN A MONTH.

I THINK WE NEED IT MAKE IT THE FIRST QUARTER.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE THING HAPPENED SINCE YOU LAST MET WITH THE SCHOOLS.

WOULD ALLOW SWIM INC. TO BEGIN DRAWING DOWN FUNDS FROM THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.

THEY ARE NOT POSITIONED TO AVAIL THEMSELVES TO THOSE FUNDS, OR WILL BE SOON. THE QUESTION WILL BE, HOW DO THEY USE THEM? ARE THEY USING THEM TO PURSUE A LARGER PROJECT, A SMALLER PROJECT? AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG.

HOW UCH AVAILABLE REVENUE DO THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH? ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT OUTCOMES ARE WE EXPECTING TO BUY? AND SO I THINK IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF THE YEAR WE NEED TO BE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO SHAPE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR INVESTMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE.

AND LIKEWISE, THEY NEED TO BE HELPING MAKE MORE CLEAR WHAT THE LIKELY OUTCOME OF THOSE INVESTMENTS WOULD BE.

WHAT I ENVISION IS POTENTIALLY A PROCESS WHERE IT REALLY DEPENDS.

IF A JOINT RECREATION MODEL IS PURSUED, YOU COULD PURSUE THE LARGER PROJECT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FUNDS AT A SMALL ENOUGH MILLAGE RATE ACROSS A WHOLE ACROSS DISTRICT IN THAT MILLION DOLLARS CAN BE WELL SPENT PLANNING AND ENGINEERING THAT MORE SIGNIFICANT PROJECT. IF IT'S A SMALLER PROJECT THEN THERE IS A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE EMPLOYED AND WE WOULD COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE AT A HIGHER ONCEPTUAL LEVEL, HOW DO YOU REACT TO THESE TYPE OF TRADEOFFS? ARE THE POOLS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THESE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING? AND HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO CITY

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RESIDENTS TO THESE TRADEOFFS? IN CONCEPT, WOULD YOU SUPPORT MILLAGES EITHER INSIDE THE CITY OR DISTRICT WIDE FOR INVESTMENT IN THE WORTHINGTON POOLS? IF SO, WHY? IF NOT, ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE?

WE'RE AT THAT LEVEL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IS THAT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, BECAUSE THE SWIMMING POOL IS LOCATED ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, THE RESIDENT IS THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOT JUST THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

ITIF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON IS FUNDING SOMETHING, NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT SOMETHING THAT SERVES THE WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND JUST ALWAYS, AT ONE POINT WE TALKED TO CITY OF COLUMBUS ABOUT TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS FROM THEM.

AND THE ONLY WAY THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING IF THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FEES ND CHARGES FOR GENERAL ADMISSION OR SWIMMING ESSONS, WHICH DOESN'T WORK FOR HE SWIM INC. MODEL.

WE REACHED OUT TO CITY OF COLUMBUS BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONLY POOL IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, WORTHINGTON SCHOOLS IS A LARGE PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE WERE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER CREATIVE WAY AND OPTION.

THE POLICIES OTHERWISE DID NOT MATCH UP.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WE REACHED OUT AND EXPLORED THAT

OPPORTUNITY. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, JUST TO CLARIFY AND ANSWER TO MR. ROBINSON'S QUESTION. IN LOOK AT HE MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT THEY DEVELOPED, THE OUTDOOR POOLS HAVE A RANGE.

DEPENDS ON WHAT INVESTMENTERIZE MADE.

IT'S 8 MILLION TO 13 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS UICKLY STRIPS OUR ABILITY TO MAKE TRADEOFFS IN OUR EXISTING FINANCIAL STRUCTURE. AND LEADS US TO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE. I THINK THERE IS LOTS OF CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR ABOUT THAT.

WE'LL NEED FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU HOW TO GET ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT AFTER TOMORROW, A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IN THAT CONVERSATION, HOW WE GO ABOUT DETERMINING THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF HE PROJECT. SINCE SO MANY NUMBERS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. AND THEN WHAT PROCESS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED TO BRING THIS ISSUE TO CLOSURE.

I THINK A MILLION DOLLARS CAPITAL BILL FUNDING IS SOMEWHAT NECESSITATES IDENTIFYING HOW THAT CAN BE WISELY SPENT IN THE FIRST QUARTER. AND DETERMINING HOW TO WISELY SPEND THAT LIKEWISE NECESSITATES US FIGURING OUT AN OVERALL STRATEGY. THE OTHER TWO THINGS I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IS I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONVEY TO THE PUBLIC HAT THE LAST BULLET HERE, MAINTAINING EXISTING PRIORITIES AND PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT FUNDING TO THE POOLS WILL LIKELY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE.

I MEAN, THERE POINT HERE IS WE'VE GOT A ROBUST SET OF CITY SERVICES. WE'VE BEEN BLESSED SINCE THE 1950'S TO HAVE A NON-FOR PROFIT BEING STEWARDS OF A POOL COMPLEX. MANY MUNICIPALITIES BUILD BUILT AND MANAGED POOLS. WE BUILT AN INDOOR POOL, SENIOR CENTER, OUTDOOR CENTER AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CITY SERVICES FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE. SO WE BUILT OUR FINANCIAL STRUCTURE AROUND SUPPORTING ALL OF THAT AND NOT AN OUTDOOR POOL.

NOW THAT WE'RE BEING CALLED UPON AND MAY NEED TO HEAVILY INVEST OR THE RESIDENTS HEAVILY INVEST IN THE OUTDOOR POOL, WHICH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE IS AN INCREDIBLE CIVIC ASSET, WE NEED TO -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE A, TRADEOFFS, AND B THE NEED FOR POTENTIALLY MORE REVENUE. WE NEED TO CONFRONT IT AND GET GOOD PUBLIC FEEDBACK. I THINK THAT STARTS TOMORROW.

LASTLY, THE NEXT -- LAST TWO SLIDES, ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST BULLET FRAMES WHAT I JUST SAID. AND THEN THE LAST BULLET RAISES

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THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE IS AN EQUITABLE FUNDING MODEL, GIVEN THAT ABOUT 44% OF THE MEMBERS OF THE POOL, OF THE OUTDOOR POOL DURING THE SUMMER ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. LASTLY, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INTEGRATE THIS SLIDE. THIS GIVES YOU SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR PROPERTY AX ISSUES.

REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT $8 MILLION, JUST CHECK THAT OUT FOR A SECOND. IF IT WAS CITY FUNDED AND IF YOU HAD A MILLAGE RATE IN THE CITY, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $95 A YEAR ON A 300,000-DOLLAR HOUSE. YOU SPREAD THAT ACROSS THE LARGEST UMBER OF BEEN FISSURES. THAT SHOWS THOSE T TWO -- THE POWER OF POTENTIALLY OF A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT.

>> OUT YOU HAVE INSIDE MILLS.

RECOMMENDING WE INCREASE OR USE THE 3 MILLS WE HAVE LEFT.

WOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT. AND I'M NOT AT THIS POINT PREPARED TO RECOMMEND WE USED THE UNVOTED MILLS.

THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT'S NOT VOTED IS THE CITY FUNDING.

YOU COULD HAVE IT OTED OR UNVOTED IS MY POINT.

JOINT RECREATION WOULD BE VOTED MILLS.

NOT A LOT OF SLI SLIDES. MY INTENTION WAS TO GIVE YOU A SAMPLING OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT MORE COHERENTLY AT 6:30 TOMORROW NOT. AND NOT SURPRISE YOU WITH SOME OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO BE SAYING.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M SURE THERE IS LOTS OF CONCERNS.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING, WE'LL HEAR WITH THE PRESENTATION TOMORROW. THERE WILL BE PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES.

SOMETHING, TO WHAT EXTENT THEY DO OR DON'T.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS. A LOT OF GROUND TO COVER.

AND A LOT OF GROUND TO HAVE THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO COVER AND ASSIMILATE AND UNDERSTAND IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME CONSIDERING WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO NOT LOSE THE STATE FUNDING. IT REALLY IS A YEOMAN'S TASK OUT THERE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDING.

AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY CONSENSUS IN A

VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. >> R. DOROTHY: I HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IN THAT REGARD. WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION OUT.

DO WE HAVE AN IDEA HOW WE'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION BACK FROM

THE PUBLIC? >> M. GREESON: WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS TOMORROW WHERE WE ASK A SERIES OF QUESTIONS RELATE TODAY THE SLIDES THAT ALL THREE ENTITIES PRESENT THAT WILL BE AN INITIAL EFFORT. WE'LL PRODUCE A REPORT AND PUBLISH THAT ONLINE. AND THEN THE THREE ENTITIES ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT --

>> R. DOROTHY: IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE RESPOND ALSO ONLINE? OR DO THEY HAVE TO BE THERE IN

PERSON TOMORROW? >> M. GREESON: FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, IT'S IN PERSON. WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES TO FIND A WAY TO GO FURTHER WITH

THAT AFTER TOMORROW NIGHT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IS IT GOING TO BE RECORDED OR LIVE STREAMED OR ANYTHING?

>> M. GREESON: I'M NOT AWARE IT IS GOING TO BE AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW IT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT ROOMS. AND WE'RE NOT -- IT'S IN THE AUDITORIUM AND BREAKING OUT INTO

THE CAFETERIA. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M HOPING, IS THERE A WAY IT CAN BE RECORDED AND PLAYED BACK FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT MAKE IT. THOSE PRESENTATIONS I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT IF THERE IS ANYWAY TO BE RECORDED, SO THAT THE PRESENTATIONS GET OUT THERE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE. AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN SHOW UP.

>> M. GREESON: OKAY. WE'LL TALK TO THEIR TEAM ABOUT

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FIGURING IT OUT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THEY HAVE DONE

OTHER PRESENTATIONS ONLINE. >> M. GREESON: WE MAY BE ABLE TO

FACEBOOK LIVE IT OR RECORD IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THEY HAVE STUDENTS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME IN THE EVENING AND VIDEOTAPE OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT, RECORD, YOU KNOW,

THE GENERAL PRESENTATIONS. >> M. GREESON: ALL RIGHT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I'M SEEING HEADS SHAKE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE SEE THE PRESENTATIONS AS POSSIBLE.

>> D. ROBINSON: QUESTION, MR. GREESON.

WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE CREATION OF HE JOINT RECDISTRICT, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ANY THER ENTITY?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK YOU COULD DO IT BY ACTION OF IT THE BOARD AND CITY. ACTUALLY HAVE IT MR. BARNHARDT LOOKING INTO MODELS AND THERE ARE SEVERAL IN THE REGION THAT ARE EXAMPLES OF 6-MEMBER BOARDS, HAVE HALF THE BOARD IS APPOINTED BY ONE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND THE OTHER HALF BY THE OTHER.

THEY ARE CREATED BY TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS OF THOSE ENTITIES.

AND THEY ALL HAVE, EVERY COMMUNITY CREATED TO ACHIEVE DIFFERENT MISSIONS. AND THEY END UP HAVING -- I MEAN, THEY ARE CREATED TO FUND RECREATIONAL ASSETS.

BUT EVERY COMMUNITY THAT MAY MEAN OMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE'LL SHARE THAT RESEARCH THAT HE'S DOING AS SOON AS IT'S

COMPLETED. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHI? MR. GREESON, ANYTHING ELSE FOR

THE GREATER GOOD? >> M. GREESON: NO, WE NEED A QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PENDING LEGISLATION.

AND APPOINTMENTS OF BOARD AND COMMISSIONS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. TH? MR. LINDSEY?

>> NOTHING ELSE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

[9. Reports of Council Members]

>> B. KOWALCZYK: IN CASE YOU THOUGHT THE AGE FRIENDLY DISCUSSION WAS OVER. ONE MORE THING TO BRING UP.

WHICH WAS MR. BROWN AND COUNCILMEMBER DOROTHY AND I ATTENDED A SESSION THAT WESTERVILLE HELD AS PART OF THEIR AGE-FRIENDLY INITIATIVE ON SENIOR HOUSING.

AND SOME OTHER IDEAS FOR ADDRESSING HOUSING NEEDS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I KNOW THAT IS AN ISSUE HERE IN WORTHINGTON AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS A NEW PROGRAM THAT THE COLUMBUS AGE FRIENDLY INITIATIVE AND CENTRAL OHIO AREA ON AGING ARE WORKING ON NESTERLY, THEY PAIR UP OLDER RESIDENTS WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO NEED HOUSING. AND THERE IS A VETTING PROCESS.

AND THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT.

WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, MR. BROWN AND I WHETHER OUR CODE ALLOWS THAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE COULD DO UNDER AN AGE-FRIENDLY INITIATIVE IN WORTHINGTON TO REVIEW THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE IF OUR CODE SUPPORTS IT.

BUT IT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING PRESENTATION.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE AD GREAT REPRESENTATION.

THAT'S IT. >> R. DOROTHY: I WANTED TO THANK THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE CITY EMPLOYEES FOR THE CELEBRATIONS THAT WERE GOING ON YESTERDAY FOR WELCOMING SANTA INTO TOWN AND LIGHTING THE TREE. CHRISTMAS CAROLS AND EVENTS MAKING THE CITY WONDERFUL. I DID HAVE SEVERAL, I WAS HELPING WITH THE PARTNERSHIP AND HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME UP AND TELL ME WHAT A NICE EVENT THAT WAS.

AND OTHER EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THEY MENTIONED EVENTS DONE BY THE PARTNERSHIP AND ALSO BY THE CHAMBER TOO, AND HOW WELL ORGANIZED EVERYTHING WAS, INCLUDING THE WORK BY THE CITY STAFF IN REGARDS TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE CHAMBER AND MAKING THE CITY A WONDERFUL PLACE AND HAVING ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYONE.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. WIFA DOES HAVE THE JAPANESE TREATS AND TREASURES NIGHT AT THE GRISWOLD AT 7:00 P.M. ON THE 5TH. THERE IS A THE ANNUAL DINNER WILL BE TAKING RESERVATION FOR WIFA NEAR THE END OF THE YEAR.

DINNER FOR THE WIFA IS JANUARY 24.

BUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, YOU GET TO SIGN UP FOR

THAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY

ERS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: ONE THING.

THURSDAY NIGHT YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO COME BACK NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT, YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO COME BACK FOR A FUN-FILLED EVENING. BOTH STAFFORD VILLAGE AND

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HOLIDAY INN WILL PRESENT INITIAL APPLICATIONS TO MRPC AND NRB.

IF YOU HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR QUESTIONS YOU COULD LIKE TO OPPOSE TO EITHER, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND ASK. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO STAY UP UNTIL 1:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION ND WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PRESENT YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE APPLAPPLICANTS. I WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING I TELL MY CLIENTS, WHEN A MATTER IS IN LEGISLATION, RUN YOUR QUESTIONS THROUGH YOUR ATTORNEYS SO IT'S SAFE.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: GREAT.

MR. SMITH. >> D. SMITH: POSSIBLE QUESTION FOR MS. STEWART. NOW IT'S DECEMBER, MS. KOWALCZYK, WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF GRANTS TO DIVVY OF THE FUNDING -- RADAR TO GET THAT SCHEDULED. I'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS FROM APPLICANTS OVER THE LAST WEEK.

I HAD NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW MANY.

BUT QUITE A FEW CAME IN TODAY. THAT IS ON MY RADAR.

>> D. FOUST: MR. MEYERS, TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT A WEEK FROM THURSDAY, I'LL FORWARD AN EMAIL EXCHANCED BETWEEN MYSELF AND OTHER PARTIES. ONE THING AND ASKED REGULARLY AND A SIMPLE TWO-DIMENSIONAL RENDING, HOUSES ALONG HARTFORD.

IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO SEE A COMPARISON OF THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING TO SAY THE PRESBYTERIAN OR SAINT JOHN CHURCHES AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I DON'T KNOW, YOUR HO WHAT THE BUDGET I.

I KNOW IT'S NOT A CHEAP THING TO DO.

BUT WE HAVE HAD MANY FLY -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY MANY.

WE'VE HAD APPLICANTS WITH ESSENTIALLY FLY-OVER RENDERINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE 3-DIMENSIONAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE EAST LOOKING WEST.

TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW IT LOOKS WITH THE EXISTING APARTMENTS TO THE EAST AND HOW IT LOOKS WITH THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE TO THE WEST. AND HOW THAT WHOLE THING WORKS.

AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO ESSENTIALLY A CAD PROGRAM THAT WILL WALK AROUND. I KNOW THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP THEM WITH THEIR PRESENTATION. AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I ASK

FOR. >> D. FOUST: I WOULD SETTLING FOR A SIMPLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS THE CENTRAL BUILDING AND A COUPLE OF HOUSES ON HARTFORD, ALL TO SCALE ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR.

I ASKED FOR IT REPEATEDLY. HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

KEEP ASKING. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.> PRESIDENT B. MIB INSON.

>> D. ROBINSON: NO PUBLIC REPORT TONIGHT, MADAM PRESIDENT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WANTED TO THANK WORTHINGTON STAFF FOR THE PARTNERSHIP, FOR THE EXCELLENT HOLIDAY OPEN HOUSE PROGRAM. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

IT'S A FAMILY TRADITION. I REALIZED IT'S MY DAUGHTER'S 30 AND IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS AND WE'RE HAVING A SECOND GENERATION GOING THROUGH THE HOLIDAY OPEN HOUSE PROGRAM.

SOMETIME I HAVE SUGGESTIONS, WHOMEVER IS APPROPRIATE, SUGGESTIONS FOR TWEAKING FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

I MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

AND ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WAS THE JOINT MEETING BETWEEN ARB AND MPC. WITH THE BIG PROJECTS COMING UP, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM IT.

ONE, IS WHEN WE WANT TO HAVE IT? THE FIRST COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN JANUARY R NOT. AND SECOND, WHAT DO YOU SEE, MAYBE THINK ABOUT IT AND JOT NOTES, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT SHOULD COME FROM THE MEETING, STRUCTURE OR OUTCOMES? WHAT IS IT? WHAT SHOULD IT BE? WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE DIALOGUE. I'M TRYING TO GET MORE STRUCTURE THAN EVERYBODY DISORGANIZED. I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT STRUCTURE, ORGANIZATION, HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS.

I'M VERY OPEN TO THOUGHTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

YOU CAN FORWARD THEM THROUGH MATT OR DIRECTLY TO ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. ALSO, GIVING THOUGHTS WHEN YOU

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WOULD WANT TO HAVE IT. AND THE SECOND IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

THE FIRST COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN JANUARY.

A FEW OF US TALKED ABOUT WHAT TO DISCUSS AT THE RETREAT AND WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE SO WE CAN GET THAT PLANNED.

I THINK THE GENERAL FEELING I'VE GOTTEN FROM THOSE WHO I'VE MET WITH, THEY WOULD LIKE A MEETING, A RETREAT EARLY FIRST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE YEAR SO WE CAN GET UP AND RUNNING.

WE'RE GOING TO AVE A NEW COUNCILMEMBER ON BOARD WITH US.

AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LL GET TO, NOT ONLY KNOW EACH OTHER BUT TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AND ALL BE PART OF THE, AT LEAST SOME OF THE INITIAL DIRECTION FOR THE CITY.

IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THOSE AREAS, PLEASE START PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER. AND IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS, WHAT TO DO WITH THE RETREAT AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING IN JANUARY, FINE, OR IF YOU THINK WE CAN DO IT OUTSIDE OF THAT SO WE CAN GET THINGS ORGANIZED AND FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED A CONSULTANT, WHAT SORT OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR BASED ON WHAT TO ACCOMPLISH. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PLANNING AREAS I'M LOOKING AT TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD ON WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, MR. MEYERS MOVES WE GO

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TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PENDING LEGISLATION AND BOARD APPOINTMENTS. I HAVE A PERSONNEL ISSUE I WANT TO BRING UP. MR. SMITH SECONDS THAT.

MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ST MOVES WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON. TAKE THE ROLL.

>> R. DOROTHY: YES. >> B. KOWALCZYK: YES.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: SURE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICH

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.