[1. Call To Order] [00:00:03] >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18 MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PLEASE BE SEATED. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS WE'LL RUN THROUGH QUICKLY BEFORE WE GET O THE BIG ITEM I KNOW MOST PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR. I WANT TO MENTION THOUGH IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN SPEAKING AT ANY POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN FILL OUT A YELLOW SLIP AND PLEASE GIVE IS TO MS. THRESS AND WE'LL CALL PEOPLE WHEN THE TIME COMES IN THE ORDER IN WHICH I HAVE RECEIVED THE SPEAKER SLIPS AND WE'LL GO IN ORDER. [5. Approval of the Minutes] FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 3 SPECIAL MEETING AND FEBRUARY 3 REGULAR MEETING AND SPECIAL MEETING. WE MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECONDED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. ARE THERE CHANGES? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. [6.A. Ordinance No. 04-2020 Appropriation - Selby Park Playground Replacement Project] MOVING ON TO THE ORDNANCE FOR PROVIDING FOR AN APPROPRIATION TO PAY THE COST OF THE SELBY PARK PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT NEW JERSEY NO.704-20. >> YOU INCLUDED IN YOUR PROGRAM FUNDS TO REPLACE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARKS, SELBY PARK AT COLONIAL HILLS. >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE SELBY PLAYGROUND HAS STARTED TO SHOW BREAKING DOWN OF PLAYGROUND AND WALKWAY AND SIGNIFICANT WEAR AND TEARING OF SAFETY SURFACING. WE'VE REPLACED SOME COMPONENT TO TRY TO EXTEND THE LIFE AND HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION WE NEED TO ELEVATE THIS ON OUR PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT CYCLE. AS YOU KNOW THE PLAYGROUND'S VERY POPULAR. ONE OF THE MOST HEAVILY UTILIZED IN OUR CITY FOR RESIDENTS AND SUMMER CAMPS. WE PLAN AS USUAL TO ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SSOCIATION AND THE DESIGN OF TE PLAYGROUND APPROPRIATING THIS MONEY WOULD ALLOW US TO START TO DENTIFY CONTRACTORS AND GET SOME DRAFT PLANS FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS YOU KNOW, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED PLAYGROUNDS AS ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES AND IN SOME CASES IDENTIFIED PLAY GROUNDS THAT MIGHT BE EITHER NOT REPLACED OR REPLACED TIE LESSER EXTENT. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PLAYGROUNDS. THIS WAS PLANNED TO STAY IN A SIMILAR SIZE AND SCOPE AND THAT'S OUR PLANS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: $275,000 IN APPROPRIATIONS. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT CYCLE FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS. WE HAVE 14 THROUGH OUR 16 PARKS. >> YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, DOROTHY WE TYPICALLY GET 20 TO 25 YEARS OUT OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND THERE'S FACTORS WITH THE AMOUNT OF SHADE AND PLAY AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SAFETY SERVICING. ON THE MOST RECENT PLAYGROUND WE WENT WITH THE ARTIFICIAL TURF WE'RE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT AND SEEMS TO BE GETTING GOOD REVIEWS FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND OTHER PLAYGROUNDS ARE FOR SURFACING WE'VE EXPERIENCED LACK OF LENGTH OF IFE WITH THAT SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVES TO TRY TO MAKE THE SERVICING LIFE MATCH UP WITH THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WHICH GETS LIKE 20 TO 25 YEARS IN LENGTH. >> A CLARIFICATION, SOME OF YOU KNOW THE PARKS MASTER PLAN [00:05:06] INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE SHELTER AND OTHER AREAS OF THAT PARK. THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ASSESSMENT OF THE SHELTER AND THE WEST END IS SEPARATE. THIS IS JUST PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. >> I WANTED TO KNOW HOW FAST WE'D START GETTING PUBLIC INPUT AND WHEN WOULD WE SEE REPLACEMENT? >> OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND OCCUR LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL AND WE'D BEGIN THAT ENGAGEMENT. THE IDEAL TIME IS WHEN IT'S ACTIVE, LATE SPRING AND SUMMER IS WHEN WE ANTICIPATE HAVING PUBLIC INPUT PROBABLY AT TO THE SHELTER HOUSE -- AT THE SHELTER HOUSE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. THRESS CALL THE ROLL. [6.B. Ordinance No. 05-2020 Appropriation - Perry Park Backflow Preventer Relocation] >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE ORDINANCE PASSES. >> PRESS MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF KANSAS THIS APPROPRIATES $70,000 FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR 2020 TO DO SOME BACKFLOW PREVENTION AT PERRY PARK AND IT'S LESS EXCITING THAN PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT UT WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> THIS IS EXCITING FOR KEEPING OUR WATER CLEAN I THINK. DOESN'T THIS SERVE OUR DRINKING FOUNTAINS? WE'RE CONSTANTLY GETTING ASKED TO HAVE MORE DRINKING FOUNTAINS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. >> IT IS CLOSER TO OUR RESTROOM FACILITY AND SERVES THAT WITH THE WATER FOUNTAINS IN THAT AREA. IT'S BEEN A REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. WE'VE TRIED TO FIND A WAY TO OT DO THIS BUT IT'S A REQUIREMENT SO WE HAVE GONE TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN AND SO THERE'S A COMPONENT OF LUMBING PART OF IT AND THEN THERE'S THE COMPONENT OF THE ELECTRIC CAL PART OF IT WHICH IS THE PRICE TAG IS $70,000. >> IT'S ALSO CRITICAL WE HAVE WATER IN THAT LOCATION SO I'M VERY EXCITED WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEVERAL MEETINGS. MAYBE YOU GUYS WILL COME TO AND LOOKING AT THE OVERALL WATER LINE REPLACEMENT FOR THE WHOLE CITY. ANYWAY, I'M SUPER EXCITED WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE. >> AND THE PARK GETS A LOT OF USE. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MORE AESTHETIC AND FUN AND JUST TO COMPLIMENT THAT AND ALLOW US AT A FUTURE POINT TO LOOK AT THE FACILITIES COULD BE ON THE LIST FOR AN UPGRADE AT SOME POINT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF NOT MS. THRESS CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON ORDINANCE NO. 05-2020. . >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: [6.C. Ordinance No. 07-2020 Rezoning - Stafford Village - Northeast Corner of Hartford Street & East Stafford Avenue] ORDINANCE NO. 05-2020 HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND ORDINANCE NO. 70-2020. AS WE MOVE INTO THIS I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS TO BEGIN WITH. WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A PROJECT VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WITH VIEWS AND THOUGHTS. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE AT THE MUNICIPAL COMMISSION MEETING IN THE PAST WITH HOW MUCH RESPECT YOU SHOWED YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS AND I ASK YOU SHOW THE SAME RESPECT TO EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT. WITH THAT SAID, I'M HOPING THAT EVERYONE WILL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK. ANYONE WHO FILLS OUT A SLIP I PROMISE YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO [00:10:03] COME UP AND I ASK PEOPLE REFRAIN FROM DOING THINGS THAT MIGHT BE NOT SO HELPFUL LIKE BOOING OR CHEERING OR APPLAUDING BUT LET EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND GIVE US THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO OFFER TO US. THERE ARE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING BRIEFLY.I WANT TO GO OVER VERY - ONE IS WE HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE LIMIT PER SPEAKER. MS. THRESS WILL BE DOING THE TIMING AND SET IT UP BEFORE 30 SECONDS YOU NEED TO STOP. AND THE ONLY OTHER REQUIREMENT IS FILL OUT THE YELLOW PAPER AND FILL IT OUT TO MS. THRESS AND YOU CAN DO THIS AT ANY TIME IF SOMEBODY ELSE BRINGS SOMETHING UP OR YOU WANTED TO SAY, FILL IT OUT AND BRING IT UP. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH HAVING AN OVERVIEW PROVIDED BY CITY STAFF THEN INVITING THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A EW REMARKS AND THEN LET THE APPLICANT DO A PRESENTATION THEN E'LL MOVE IN TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. WITH THAT WE'LL TURN IT OVER AND GET STARTED. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'LL ADD HOUSEKEEPING MEASURES BECAUSE I SEE FAMILIAR FACES IN THE AUDIENCE AND I ALSO SEE SOME THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. THE BATHROOMS ARE RIGHT OVER HERE TO THE NORTH. THESE TEND TO BE LONG MEETINGS AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TAKE A BREAK. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY THERE'S EXITS TO THE NORTH SOUTH AND OUT TOWARDS HYDE STREET IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN IN THIS BUILDING BEFORE. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND PUBLIC, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA RELATED TO WHAT WE PREFER TO AS IT STAFFORD SCRIMMAGE. THE FIRST ONE YOU JUST READ IS THE REZONING TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE SECOND ONE WHICH YOU'LL HEAR SEPARATELY IS A RESOLUTION DEALING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING A COMMITMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ISSUE RELATED TO TREE FEES AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCE. IF HE FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION DOES NOT PASS THEN THE SECOND, I BELIEVE, COMES MOOT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE HERE TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE TWO ACTUAL SEGMENTS OF TESTIMONY IN LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AND TESTIMONY THAT WILL BE RECEIVED AND SEPARATELY TAKEN. THE MOST IMMEDIATE OF THOSE THE FIRST OF THOSE IS THE ORDINANCE FOR REZONING. TONIGHT MR. BROWN, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR IS GOING TO OVERVIEW THE PROJECT. FOR PURPOSES OF TONIGHT'S TAFF REPORT WILL SUMMARIZE THE PROJECT AND FACT REGARDING IT AS WELL AS GIVE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE MUNICIPAL MRAJ PLANNING COMMISSION'S DIALOGUE. THE PRESENTATION WILL BE SUBSTANTIVE GIVEN MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENT DUR PRESENTATIONS AND READ E-MAILS AND LETTERS AND READ ALL THE VARIOUS STAFF REPORTS. SO THE ORDER OF THIS ACTIVITY TONIGHT IS I'M GOING IT TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN. FOLLOWING MR. BROWN WE'VE INVITED MR. CULTER THE CHAIR OF THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND FOLLOWING MR. CULTER THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND AFTER THOSE PRESENTATIONS I BELIEVE PRESIDENT MICHAEL THAT'S WHEN WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH ALL OF THE HE WILLO -- YELLOW SLIPS AND OVER TO COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATIONS AS WELL OR ANYTIME THEY WANT. BUT AT THIS TIME IT WILL BE RESERVED TO THE COUNCIL AT THE END FOR COUNCILOR QUESTIONS, DEBATE AND ACTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MR. BROWN [00:15:02] REGARDING THAT PROCESS? >> THANK YOU, I'LL TRY TO STICK TO THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE. AS YOU KNOW THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO REZONE NINE SEPARATE PARCELS FROM OUR R10, R6.5 AND AR4.5 DISTRICT TO OUR PUD PLAN DISTRICT. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S TAX THAT GO HAND IN HAND THROUGHOUT THE REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. IF HERE'S MODIFICATIONS OR CHANGES IT HAS TO GO BACK TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND WITH THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S COMING. WITH THIS ONE, IT'S BEEN GOING ON ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW. IT STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2019. WE HAD TWO MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY AND OVER THE SUMMER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD REVISED PLANS AND THEY CAME IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND EXCITED SITES THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HARTFORD AND STAFFORD AND THEN ALONG HARTFORD. >> YOU SAID TWO YEARS? WHEN DID DIALOGUE FIRST BEGIN? >> 2018 THEY STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. >> THE FIRST NPC. >> FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY 14, 2019. THE EXISTING BUILDINGS RE PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT ALONG WITH TWO OF THE NORTHERN HOUSES ON HARTFORD. THERE'LL BE A NEW TWO TO THREE-STORY BUILDING THE CENTER PORTION BEING THREE STORIES WITH 85 NEW UNITS A MIX OF ONE BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOM PLUS AND TWO-BEDROOM UNITS. FOR A TOTAL OF 86 NITS AND 85 WILL BE THE NEW BUILDING. AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED IN THE PREVIEW THERE'S THREE SEPARATE ZONING CATEGORIES. THE PREDOMINANT IS AR4.5 IN PINK AND TWO PARCELS R10 AND ONE IS R6.5 IN BLUE. SO THE EXISTING STAFFORD VILLAGE IS HERE AND I'VE TRIED TO LAY OUT THE LOT SIZE AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THE BOARD OF COMMISSION STRUGGLED WITH IN LOOKING AT EXISTING ZONING OF THE PROPERTY AND DESIGN GUIDELINES AND PLANNING THE ZONING CODE AND THE PLAN OF HOW THOSE GO HAND IN HAND AGAIN, WE WENT THROUGH HOW MUCH OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED AR4.5 THAT ALLOWS UP TO THREE TORIES IN HEIGHT. ONE THING WE PROVIDED TO PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING -- SORRY, DECEMBER MEETING AND JANUARY MEETING WAS THE LOWER PORTION OF WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN S AN AREA ZONED AR4.5 BY ZONING RIGHTS ALLOWS YOU THREE STORIES AND THE NORTHERN THREE PARCELS THE R10 AND R6.5 ALLOW TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT SIDE BY SIDE. AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THE EXISTING UNITS THERE ARE CURRENTLY 61 UNITS ON THE 3.06 ACRES. WITH THE PROPOSAL 85 NEW UNITS PLUS THE EXISTING FAMILY HOME THAT BRINGS IT UP TO 28 UNITS. IF YOU UTILIZE A PORTION ZONED AR4.5 AND DID THE DENSITY THEY'D BE PERMITTED OVER WHAT THE A4.5 CURRENT LAY LAWS. AGAIN, IT DID GO THROUGH MULTIPLE COMMISSION MEETINGS FEBRUARY 14, 2019, FEBRUARY 20, 2019 AND AGAIN IN APRIL AND MAY OF LAST SUMMER WE DID A WALKING TOUR TO SEE THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING AND LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, LOOK AT [00:20:01] THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WITH THE TREES AND WALK THE SITE. THEN THE APPLICANT CAME BACK WITH A REVISED PLAN AND MODIFICATIONS. THE COMMENTS WE HEARD AT THE FEBRUARY 2019 MEETINGS AND FROM NEIGHBORS WERE THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE CLOSER TO HARTFORD AND STAFFORD AND LOSS OF TREES. THERE'S A SYCAMORE ON THE SITE. WITH THEIR REVISIONS THEY CAME BACK IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND MADE MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN AND SETBACK THE BUILDING IN HEIGHT AND WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU IS AGAIN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. ONE BUILDING WITH THE RETAINING OF THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. ALL THE PARKING COMES OFF STAFFORD AVENUE AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS OR FOR SERVICES NEEDED ALONG THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THE PROPERTY IS ALL SELF-PARK. THE PUD ORDINANCE CODE REQUIRES PARKING SPACES AND THEY'RE PROVIDING 85 PARKING SPACES. AGAIN, THERE'S A LARGE PEN OAK AT THE REAR OF THE SITE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED AND A LARGE SYCAMORE ON HARTFORD AS PART OF THEIR DESIGN CHANGE AND SAVING THE SYCAMORE TREE. THROUGHOUT THEIR PROCESS THEY'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ARBORIST FOR MAINTENANCE F THE TWO ITEMS. AND AGAIN, AS PART THEY ARE PROPOSING HE SURROUNDING EDGES OF THE BUILDINGS TO BE TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT AND STEPS UP TO A THIRD-STORY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. AND THIS GENERAL AREA WILL BE THE THIRD STORY. AUST -- A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE REQUIREMENT OF ON-SITE PARKING AND THEY'LL HAVE PARKING ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT PREDOMINANTLY THE FIRST FLOOR WITH THE THIRD STORY GETS BUMPED UP TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. AGAIN, OOKING AT THE LOT COVERAGE ITSELF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL AND 75% LOT COVERAGE, 44.4% IS BUILDING COVERAGE OF THE LOT ITSELF. THE CURRENT BUILDINGS ON THE SITE FOR COMPARISON THE FOOTPRINT IS APPROXIMATELY 23I 32,000 SQUARE FOOT IN SIZE AND THE BUILDING BE 57,000 SQUARE FEET AND THIS IS THE NORTHERN PORTION IN THE MIDDLE WITH PARKING. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THERE'S CURRENTLY 10 SEPARATE BUILDING WITH 31,000 SQUARE FOOT AND -- SQUARE FEET AND 922 IS AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON HARTFORD. THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE ABOUT 35,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. AGAIN, THEY'LL BE COMING OFF EAST STAFFORD AVENUE AND IT REQUIRED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS. SO THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT. THE SURROUNDING SITE PLAN GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE SETBACKS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN IT'S TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET AND ALONG STAFFORD IT RANGES FROM 15 TO 20 DEPENDING ON THE 15 FEET AS PART OF THAT AND THEN WHEN YOU JUMP OVER TO THE HARTFORD AVENUE SIDE YOU'RE ABOUT 21 FEET BACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SETBACKS THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO INTERIOR COURTYARDS WE TALKED ABOUT AND PUBLIC AMENITIES BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FELT THEY WERE MORE UTILIZED THAN THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES AND THERE'LL BE ANOTHER PHASE OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. THE BUILDING WAS ABLE TO MEET FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR GETTING A LADDER TRUCK IN AND OUT. IN THE FUTURE, IF THIS DOES GET [00:25:06] APPROVED AT OME POINT IN TIME THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO DO A SUBDIVISION AND THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PARCELS AND CUTTING EAST TO WEST ON THE SITE IS A SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROJECT AT THEIR EXPENSE, THEIR COST. IT GOES EAST TO WEST AND BACK OVER TO CONNECT. ALSO AS PART OF THIS IS THE STORM WATER PROPOSAL. YOU KNOW THEY ARE PROPOSING UNDERGROUND TANKS TO CAPTURE THE WATER THAT'S A QUESTION WE HEARD FROM MEMBERS IN THE PROCESS. THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE COMPANY RESOLUTION MR. LINDSEY WILL TALK ABOUT AND THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT, 34 OF THOSE UNITS ARE TO BE SET ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT WITH THE PUD DEVELOPMENT TAX IT HAS SENIOR RESIDENTIAL PERMITTED USE AND THAT'S DEFINED IN OUR CODE AND IT'S BASICALLY 55 AND OLDER THAT CAN LIVE THERE. AND MR. LINDSEY WILL TOUCH ON THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT AND COMMENTS FROM ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE FOR SCREENING AND FOUR-FOOT FENCES AND SIX-FOOT FENCE BASED ON COMMENTS WE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS. THE PROCESS IS BEING FINALIZED. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THERE IS A PEN OAK AND A SYCAMORE TO BE RETAINED AS PART OF THIS. AS PART OF THE PUD CHECKLIST FOR YOU AND STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONER TO LOOK AT. PART OF THE NATURAL FEATURES THEY'RE REQUIRING IS TO SHOW WHAT THEY'LL BE PRESERVING FOR TREES AND WHATEVER REDUCTION THEY ARE LOSING HOW MUCH THEY'RE ADDING BACK AND THERE'S A TREE FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC AREA FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT'S $21,250 AS PART OF THIS. PUBLIC AMENITIES WILL BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THIS AND TWO COURTYARDS THE NE ON HARTFORD HOWEVER, THE OTHER PUBLIC AMENITIES WERE THE DECORATIVE BENCHES AN ARTWORK ALONG EAST S STAFFORD AVENUE AND BICYCLE 3 RACKS. REWORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO HAVE ALL THE SIDEWALKS REPLACED FROM THE FOUR-FOOT SIDEWALK TO A FIVE-FOOT ON THE SIDE ITSELF. WE THOUGHT IT COUNTED TOWARDS A PUBLIC AMENITY AND AS PART OF THAT, THERE'LL E DECORATIVE LIGHTING ALONG HARTFORD AND STA FOIRD -- STAFFORD AND THIS WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED WITH THE TREE FEE, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A GLITCH IN OUR CODE. YOU REMEMBER IN 2016 WHEN WE DID THE ZONING GUIDELINES, THE ORIGINAL DRAFT HAD 450 FOR COVERAGE AND COUNCIL ASKED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS CHARGE OR IF THEY CHARGE AT ALL AND WHAT THE FEES RANGED FROM. OF THE CENTRAL OHIO NES RANGED FROM $100 TO $300. THE MAJORITY WITHOUT A TREE FEE AND ONE THING WE DID WITH THE GUIDELINES WAS WE ADJUSTED THE TREE FEE REPLACEMENT POHOWEVER, THE PUD SECTION WAS $150 AS PART OF THE PROCESS IN THE PUD IS THE RESOLUTIONS AND FAYE FEW MINUTES THE APPLICANT IS NOT ASKING TO DEVIATE FROM THE ENTIRE REQUIREMENT BUT ASKING FOR A REDUCED TREE FEE. REQUIREMENTS THEMSELVES WE'RE LOSING 386 AND THE TREE FEE IS [00:30:01] APPROX APPROXIMATELY $134,000 AND IT MATCHES TO BE $58,000 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE INITIAL PLANNING COMMISSION THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE AND FELT AS THIS COMES FORWARD PLANNING COMMISSION TO COUNCIL YOU SHOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION OVER WEATHER TO REDUCE, WAVE OR [INDISCERNIBLE]. AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THIS RATHER QUICKLY, ASKING WHAT CHANGED THE BUILDING ALONG EAST STAFFORD AVENUE ADJUST FROM THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT DOWN TO A SINGLE FOR YOU. ONE THING WE ALSO HEARD FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS INSTEAD OF SEEING THIS WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU'D SEE ON THE STREET. THE HARD THING IS A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE SEE IS EVERYTHING LOOKS NICE AND HAS A 30-YEAR GROWTH IN TREES. SO WHAT WE DID WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT GIVE US SOMETHING MORE REALISTIC OF WHAT IS THERE TODAY AND WHAT WE'LL SEE IN THE DIFFERENT SEASONS. THE CENTER PORTIONS IS THE PORTION THAT GOES UP TO THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH THE PARKING BEING WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LOWER LEVEL. AGAIN, WHAT YOU SAW IN FEBRUARY OF 2019 FOR THE TWO MEETINGS BRIN FEBRUARY, THE UPPER SLIDE SHOWS THE HEIGHT THREE STORY COMPONENT ALONG EAST STAFFORD LOOKING TOWARDS THE PARK. YOU HAD THE THREE-STORY PORTION GOING UP HIGHER IN HEIGHT THAN THE NEIGHBORS FELT COMFORTABLE WITH AND SO WHAT YOU SAW WHEN IT CAME BACK WITH REVISIONS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY THIS YEAR THEY REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS AND PUSHED THE HEIGHT BACK TOWARDS THE CENTER OF SITE ITSELF. IS THIS WHAT YOU SAW FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR AND THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF HARTFORD AND STAFFORD. THAT WAS THE GENERAL VICINITY AND YOU SEE THE SYCAMORE STREET3 AND WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT CAME BACK IN DECEMBER YES, IT'S STILL ONE LARGE BUILDING BUT MEANT TO LOOK LIKE SEVERAL MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T CONNECTED SO OF THE SIM -- SYCAMORE TREE ALONG HARTFORD AND WE ASKED FOR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH TREES. IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BUILDINGS ALONG EAST STAFFORD AND THE CENTER PORTION IS THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT BUT THEY DROPPED THE FRONT BUILDINGS DOWN TO TWO STORIES. THIS IS ON HARTFORD. THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND A BELIEVE THIS HAS MOVED TWICE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE EMERGENCY AC ACCESS IF THERE WAS A NEED. AGAIN, HARTFORD PARK LOOKING NORTH. AGAIN, AS PART OF THIS AS WE MENTIONED WITH THE 85 NEW UNITS AND THE TWO-STORY BUILDING, 34 OF THOSE 85 UNITS ARE TO MEET THE CERTAIN AFFORDABLE AND THIS GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION INCLUDED. AGAIN, STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I THINK THE COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE HERE. MR. HOFFMAN IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, THERE FAUST, SO E HAVE FOUR OF THE FIVE MEMBERS THAT WERE AT THE MEETING AND VOTED. I WANT TO THANK THEM AND WE [00:35:04] STRUGGLED GOING THROUGH THE REALLY LOOKING AT EXISTING ZONING RIGHTS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOUND IN THAT AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WHERE THEY COME INTO CONFLICT TO DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE ITSELF3 WHERE SOMETIMES THEY GO AND HAND IN HAND AND AT OTHER TIMES THEY BUTT HEADS. I KNOW I WENT OVER FIVE MINUTES. AGAIN, OUR CHAIR ND THE OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE HERE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME UP. >> >> AND WE HEARD POSITIVE VOTES AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND FOR THE MOST PART EVERYBODY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL AND WE GOT E-MAILS AND POST CARDS. THERE WAS MORE SENSITIVITY TO THIS AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS IT ADDRESSES THE NEED THAT IS IMPORTANT. CITY COUNCIL VOICED THAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING AND IF YOU TOURED IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S ABYSMAL. THE REASON I MISSED THE DECEMBER MEETING IS BECAUSE I WAS MOVING MY FATHER TO AN ASSISTED LIVING CENTER IN TEXAS. I'M GOING THROUGH THIS LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND WE'LL ALL GET THERE AT SOME POINT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT BUT WHEN WE STARTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THE WAY AND WE HAVE SOMETHING WE WENT TO COUNCIL FOR AND THAT'S WHERE WE SPENT A LOT OF OUR TIME. WE LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE FROM DAY ONE. THE REASON WE HAVE PROJECT WE HAVE NOW IS BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC FROM WHAT THEY'VE E-MAILED AND SENT US AND WHEN THEY'VE COME UP AND MADE PRESENTATIONS ON WHAT THEY LIKED AND DIDN'T LIKE. THE ARB IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING AND THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS FIRST. THERE ARE NATION THAT COULD CHANGE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE THAT HANGED. WE'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ON THAT 100%. THERE'S THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE A DISCUSSION ON AND THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED. AND I THINK THE SAME THING GOES FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MUNICIPAL COMMISSION AS WELL. BUT IT'S A TOUGH PROJECT FOR WORTHINGTON BECAUSE IT'S IN THE HEART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ALSO GOES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX A LITTLE BIT. [00:40:04] IT'S SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES A NEED FOR THE CITY, FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND WHEN YOU COME DOUBLE TO THE FINAL VOTES, WE WERE NOT UNANIMOUS AND THAT'S OKAY. HAVING A VOTE COULD HAVE GONE THE OTHER WAY AS WELL. IF WE HADN'T HAD THE WILLINGNESS OF THE APPLICANT TO MAKE CHANGES AND SOME RE VERY COSTLY CHANGES FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO -- WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. WE HAVE TO CARRY IT OVER THE FINISH LINE. I'M VERY APPRECIATE OF THE OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT. MR. RICE WOULD BE HERE BUT HE HAD TO CELEBRATE A BIRTHDAY AND WAS TOLD WHERE HE NEEDED TO BE AND IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH OR ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER OTHERWISE YOU'LL WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND EVERYBODY ELSE COMING UP BEHIND IT. >> >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE. FOR THE RECORD THE FIRST MEETING WAS AT THE END OF DECEMBER 2018 SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS AND HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR PLANS FOR A NEW STAFFORD VILLAGE. WITH ME TONIGHT IS OUR TEAM, OUR ARCHITECTS AND OUR ATTORNEY DAVID HODGE AND THEY'LL BE HERE TO PRESENT A PROJECT AND CREATE A NEW STAFFORD VILLAGE. WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. WE THINK THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A DECISION ABOUT LAND USE AND BUILDING DESIGN. WE THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WORTHINGTON TO SHOW ITS COMMITMENT TO INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY AND TAKE A STAND FOR RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES AND ALL INCOMES INCLUDING OLDER ADULTS AND HOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SERVE THOSE RESIDENTS. WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN FOR A MOMENT BY REVIEWING NATIONAL RESIDENCES WHO WE ARE. WE'RE A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. WE CAME TOGETHER IN 1961 WHEN FOUR OHIO CHURCHES RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR ELDER HOUSING AND PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT IN WAVERLY, OHIO IN 1961 AND INCE THEN WE'VE GROWN TO THE NATION'S LARGEST NON-PROFIT BUYER OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING. ALONG THE WAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXTEND OUR MISSION. WE OFFER ADULT DAYCARE, HOSPICE SERVICES, IN-HOME HEALTH CARE AND WE SERVE 42,000 RESIDENTS EVERY YEAR. WE'RE LED BY A 19-MEMBER BOARD OF VOLUNTEERS. IT'S HEALTH CARE LEADERS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS LEADERS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND GOVERNMENT LEADERS. I'M GRATEFUL TO TALK ABOUT STAFFORD SCRIMMAGE -- SCRIMMAGE AND -- VILLAGE AND SAVE THE AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS CURRENTLY IN RISK AND OUR PLANS TO ADD MORE SENIOR APARTMENTS FOR MIDDLE-INCOME SENIORS. WE BEGIN WITH THE PREMISE THAT RETIREMENT CAN BE DIVEDED -- DIVIDED INTO THREE SEASONS, THE FIRST IS THE GO-GO RETIREMENT YEARS. IN THAT STAGE OF RETIREMENT SENIORS ARE VERY ACTIVE AND HEALTHY. THEY'RE JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE BUT DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE GRIND THE REST OF US DO, MID 70S HOWEVER, SENIORS START TO SLOW DOWN AND MAKE CHANGES AS THEY MOVE INTO THEIR 80S AND FACE LIMITATIONS ON HOW THEY LIVE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGES IN HEALTH AS THEY GO INTO THEIR 80S. WE CALL THAT SLOW GO RETIREMENT AND THEN MOVING ON AND OUR [00:45:03] HIGHEST MISSION IS WHEN WE'RE SERVING THOSE WO GROUPS. SLOW GO SENIORS AND BEYOND. SO OUR TAME AND FOCUS IS ON -- TEAM AND FOCUS IS NOT JUST CREATING APARTMENT BUILDINGS BUT SOCIAL COMMUNITIES FOR OUR SENIORS. SO OUR TEAM FOCUSES ON AN APPROACH THAT EMPHASIZES THINGS LIKE LIFE-LONG LEARNING AND PURPOSEFUL LIVING AND WE HAVE PROGRAM STANDARDS WE USE TO ASSESS OUR PERFORMANCE. WE REVIEW THEM FREQUENTLY AND USE THEM AS A REPORT CARD IN TELLING US HOW WE'RE SERVING OUR RESIDENTS AND CREATING A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN LEAD FULFILLING LIVES. ANOTHER KEY ASPECT WE FOCUS ON IS CREATING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT. IT INCLUDES OBVIOUS THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE WE HAVE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY AND WE TRY TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND HAVE FOR INSTANCE, A SYSTEM WE CALLED KATIE AN INTERNET-BASED PLATFORM YOU'RE A SENIOR YOU GET UP EVERY DAY AND CHECK IN AND SEE WHO'S BIRTHDAY IT IS AND SEE WHAT'S FOR LUNCH AND THE IMPORTANT PART IS YOU SIGN IN. IF OUR SENIORS DON'T SIGN IN THEY GET A COURTESY VISIT TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T SUFFER A FALL DURING THE NIGHT. ANOTHER MEASURE WE TAKE FOR SENIORS IS EVERYBODY GETS AN EMERGENCY PENDANT WITH A GPS ON IT. SO IF YOU HAVE A FALL, IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF AN EMERGENCY, YOU PUSH A BUTTON AND YOU'LL GET A CALL ON YOUR DEVICE FROM A TRAINED OPERATOR. THEY'LL HOOK YOU UP WITH THE APPROPRIATE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE TAKEN CARE OF BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. AFTERWARDS YOU'LL GET A FOLLOW UP CALL FROM OUR CENTRAL FFICE. THEY'LL TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS THE ROOT AUSE OF THAT EVENT THAT LED YOU TO PRESS THAT BUTTON. AND THEN THEY'LL HELP PUT IN PLACE A PLAN TO ENSURE WHATEVER THAT ROOT CAUSE WAS IT'S ADDRESSED GOING FORWARD. YOU CAN SAY -- STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE N OUR COMMUNITIES. THE REASON I WANTED TO SHARE ALL THAT WITH YOU THIS EVENING IS REALLY TO ILLUMINATE EXACTLY HOW FAR BEYOND THE CONCEPT OF CONVENTIONAL APARTMENT HOUSING STAFFORD VILLAGE WOULD GO. IT'S AY BEYOND THAT. IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE GOING TO TAKE APARTMENT HOUSING AND ADD HOUSEKEEPING AND A MEAL PLAN AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES. IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO KEEP SENIORS IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN LIVE WELL-ROUNDED FULFILLING LIVES. AS I ED AT THE BEGINNING -- AS I INDICATED, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT STAFFORD VILLAGE AND THE PROCESS THAT LED US HERE THIS EVENING. IN THE EARLY 1970S NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENCES BUILD WHAT WAS CALLED STAFFORD COURT. THAT WAS 23-MARKET RATE APARTMENTS PART OF WHAT YOU RECOGNIZE AS THE STAFFORD VILLAGE COMMUNITY IN THE WORTHINGTON PRESIDENT -- PRESBYTERIAN CHURN AND THOSE WERE TWO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WE OPERATED TOGETHER AS NEIGHBORS FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT IN THE 2010S, WORTHINGTON PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH REALIZED THERE ERE LONG-RANGE CAPITAL NEEDS AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WE'RE NOT IN THE POSITION TO CARRY THE MISSION FORWARD AND THEY REACHED OUT TO US AND WE HAD NOT MANAGED THEIR APARTMENTS FOR THEM FOR MOST THE TIME THEY OWNED IT AND WE AGREED TO TAKE OVER STAFFORD VILLAGE. THIS IS IMPORTANT, AS WE DID SO, WE MADE A PROMISE WE'D FIND A WAY TO CARRY FORWARD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MISSION AND ALWAYS HAVE 64 AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS HERE AT STAFFORD VILLAGE. AT THAT POINT, WE BEGAN TO STUDY CAREFULLY WHAT WE'D DO. WE KNEW THERE WERE REAL CAPITAL AND MAINTENANCE CONCERNS LIKE CRUMBLING SEWERS AND FAULTY WIRING BUT AS WE PRESSED IN TO IT AND THE COMMUNITY IS SPREAD CROSS THREE SITES AND THE PUD [00:50:02] APPLICATION IS AT THE LARGEST SITE, 57 APARTMENTS AND ALL 38 OF THE STUDIO APARTMENTS IN THE STAFFORD VILLAGE APARTMENTS ARE AT THE ITE. THE STUDIO APARTMENTS ARE 380 AND 330 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S A REALLY SMALL APARTMENT. MY FAMILY ROOM IS BIGGER THAN THAT. SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT 380 SQUARE FEET. THE DIFFERENCE IS OUR SENIORS ARE FRAIL AND HAVE MOBILITY LIMITS AND HAVE CHALLENGES WITH AT LEAST TWO ACTIVITIES OF DAILY LIVING. SO THAT ENVIRONMENT ISN'T SAFE. NEGOTIATE 28-INCH WIDE DOORWAY BUILT IN 1970S IS A CHALLENGE. IT'S NOT SAFE. WE FEEL WE NEED TO DO BETTER. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF OUR 380 SQUARE FOOT STUDIOS. THE MEDICAL BED JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THERE. YOU CAN IMAGINE TRYING TO MANEUVER WITH A WALKER IN THAT SPACE AND IT'S NOT SAFE. AND WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO PROCEED WITH TOTAL SENSITIVITY THERE ARE MANY STAKE HOLDERS AND BEGAN AN OUTREACH PROCESS AND IT BEGAN IN EARLY 2018 AT THE END OF 2017 AND BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING WE JUST STARTED MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND STAKE HOLDERS AND CHURCH AND GRISWALD CENTER AND PANTRY., THE SCHOOLS, THE FOOD - WE MET WITH EVERY ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE EXCEPT BEFORE BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE.BEFO BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE.M BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE.R BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE.. BOOKER. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW OFFICE. WE WERE ABLE TO CRYSTALIZE THE REAL ISSUES THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO ADDRESS AND WE HEARD SIX PRIORITIES. FOLKS TOLD US YOU NEED TO KEEP THE TREES. THEY'RE WONDERFUL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE CAMPUS AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARKING. ADD MORE SURFACE PARKING IF YOU CAN SO HARTFORD ISN'T SO CONGESTED. WE HEARD THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. WE VALUE. IT'S AMAZING THE COMMUNITY'S SUPPORT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DIVERSITY. AND THEY SAID WHEN YOU GO AHEAD WITH ANOTHER IT'S IMPORTANT IT REFLECT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY STAFFORD SITS IN. SO WE TOOK ALL THIS FEEDBACK AND THAT PROVIDED THE DESIGN FOR OUR ARCHITECT BRYAN JONES. IN EARLY 2019 WE HAD OUR FIRST MPC, MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING. THEN IN LATE 2019 WE HAD A SECOND SET OF PLANS WE SUBMITTED WITH SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS. ALONG THE WAY WE GATHERED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH THEIR TIME. A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND WE LISTENED TO THAT AND TOOK IT ALL TO HEARD AND LISTENED CAREFULLY SO IN THE LAST ROUND OF MODIFICATIONS I'M PROUD TO SAY YOUR VOLUNTEERS, YOUR MPC AND EXPERTS AND ARCHITECTS RECOGNIZED AND A PLAN THEY THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE NOR COMMUNITY. THAT FIT THE NEEDS AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE NEED FOR SENIOR HOUSING. IT'S BEEN ALLUDED TO THE SUPPORT AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2005. YOU RECOGNIZED THIS ISSUE 5 YEARS AGO. IT'S BEEN REAFFIRMED ALONG THE WAY BY ALL THE SUPPORTERS WHO HAVE COME OUT IN FAVOR OF STAFFORD VILLAGE. AS PART OF OUR PLANNING PROCESS WE DID A COMMUNITY WIDE STATISTICALLY VALID PHONE SURVEY. ONE IN THREE RESIDENTS IN THE PHONE SURVEY TOLD US THEY KNEW SOMEBODY WHO HAD TO MOVE OUT OF WORTHINGTON BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT FIND AGE-APPROPRIATE HOUSING IN 2018. 81% TOLD US THEY BELIEVED THE CITY SHOULD DO MORE TO SUPPORT SENIOR HOUSING. SO THE ISSUE HASN'T GONE AWAY. IT'S STILL HERE. [00:55:05] I RETURN TO WHERE I STARTED IN THE BEGINNING OF MY COMMENTS. STAFFORD VILLAGE IS YOUR ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY AND WE THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASSET IN WORTHINGTON AND KEEP MORE HOUSING FOR SENIORS IN WORTHINGTON. I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THIS EVENING AND SO DOES OUR TEAM AND A THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY INFORMATIVE. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR LIST OF PEOPLE. FIRST PERSON WE HAVE IS DAVID HODGE. HE'S THE ATTORNEY. DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? NO. YOU HAD YOUR YELLOW CARD IN. NEXT IS PAULA RYAN. >> WHEN I WAS 2 YEARS OLD IN 1960 I TO EAST CLEAR VIEW. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT WILSON HILL AND WATCHED MY BIKE TO WATCH MY BOYFRIEND PLAY BASEBALL. I MOVED AWAY FROM WORTHINGTON WHEN I FIRST GOT MARRIED TO DUBLIN AND LIVED THERE FIVE YEARS AND GOT DIVORCED AND MOVED BACK AND MY IDS WENT TO WILSON HILL AND HAVE THE SAME GYM TEACHER I DID. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE NOW LOOKING AT THE GO STAGE OF RETIREMENT AND AS MR. CULTER NICELY PRESENTED WE DON'T HAVE OPTIONS IN WORTHINGTON AND I WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO COME HOME AND STAY IN MY COMMUNITY. WHAT MAKES STAFFORD VILLAGE SO NICE IS IT'S WALKABLE. I CAN WALK TO THE DOCTOR, THE DRUG STORE, I CAN WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE. I DON'T NEED MY CAR. IT HELPS ME BE SUSTAINABLE AND LIVE A MORE SUSTAINABLE LIFE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. I WORKED THE MAJORITY OF MY 40 YEAR CAREER FOR ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS DOING MARKETS AND PART OF MY JOB IS DOING DESIGN SUBMITTALS SO THE COMPANIES CAN GET RECOGNIZED OR EXEMPLARY DESIGN AND I'M OT AN ARCHITECT BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND ARCHITECTURE AND WHAT MAKES A CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE BUILDING AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A FABULOUS JOB. I'VE ALSO HEARD THE WORD DENSITY THROWN AROUND. I DON'T BELIEVE DENSITY SAY BAD WORD. I THINK WE MACIT A BAD WORD. I WANT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE A YARD AWAY. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUT MY FRONT PORCH WHEN I'M IN THE GO-GO STAGE AND SIT AND HAVE TEA OR A MARTINI AT 5:00 WITH MY NEIGHBOR NEXT TO ME. SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE AND HOPE THAT YOU VOTE TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND LET PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE A LIFE IN WORTHINGTON. I'LL MOVE IT ON THE SECOND OINT AND IT WILL BE MUCH MORE QUICK. I'M AFRAID IF WORTHINGTON 3 DOESN'T APPROVE THIS THAT WE ARE DEVELOP BRAD REPUTATION FOR DEVELOPERS. AND WE ALL KNOW IF WE DON'T CHANGE WE'LL DIE. YOU DON'T CHANGE, YOU DIE. IF WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO WORK WITH US, IT'S BEEN A TWO-YEAR PROCESS. IF WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO WORK WITH US, I'M AFRAID WHAT THAT MOAN FOR OUR FUTURE. SO FOR THAT REASON AS WELL I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NEXT WE HAVE MICHAEL BALL. >> MY NAME MICHAEL BALL. WE WIFE LIVE IN WORTHINGTON. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 33 YEARS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MAJOR POINT IN SUPPORT OF THIS GREAT PROJECT. I THINK ALL OF US AGREE THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SITE BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO ALL THE THINGS THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE HERE WILL ULTIMATELY NEED. IT'S CENTRALLY LOCATE AND SO IT IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT SITE. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND I THINK FRANKLY GETTING THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. [01:00:02] SO MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THE MORE PEOPLE THAT CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY THE BETTER. SO I APPLAUD THE DESIGN. I'M AN ARCHITECT. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DESIGN OVER MY CAREER. RARELY HAVE I EVER SEEN A DEVELOPER THAT WILL GO TO THE LENGTHS THIS DEVELOPER HAS GONE TO TO CREATE A FACILITY THAT FITS INTO COMMUNITY THAT IS SO ELEGANTLY DESIGNED TO REDUCE SCALE AND TO DO ALL THE THINGS TO FIT IN. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THIS PROJECT. AND A QUESTION I'D ASK US ALL TO THINK ABOUT IS WE'VE ALREADY MOVED SOME OF THE RESIDENTS OUT TO TEMPORARY HOUSING TO COME BACK TO A NEW HOME. I GUESS A CONCERN I HAVE IS THOSE RESIDENTS WERE GIVEN STIPEND TO DO THAT. THAT WON'T LAST FOREVER AND THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH IS TIME CONSUMING. ALL THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE'RE COMING UP WITH A GREAT PRODUCT BUT I WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THESE RESIDENTS IF WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. SO FOR THEIR SAKE I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND LET THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR FUTURE IS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ONE IS MATT GREGORY. >> BEFORE BROWN, IN THE INTEREST OF OBJECTIVE CAN WE REVERT BACK TO THE ARCHITECT SCHEMATIC INSTEAD OF SHOWING THE PROMOTIONAL ONE WITH THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW. >> THANK YOU. PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND COUNCIL I LIVE AT 48 HOWARD AVENUE A FEW BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE ROPOSED PROJECT. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF YOUR CIC AND I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT BY TRADE AND WORK WITH DEVELOPERS AND EMPLOYERS ALL OVER CENTRAL OHIO AND WANT TO SECOND THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE REPUTATION. I FEEL F WE DON'T APPROVE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS THAT HAVE FOLLOWED AND HAVE MADE ALL THE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MPC IT'S ONLY OING TO FURTHER THE SENTIMENTS AROUND CENTRAL OHIO THAT WE ARE ARE NOT A PLACE TO DO BEHIND AND WANT TO SECOND THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE NEED FOR SENIOR HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S WELL PUBLICIZED BY ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO STUDIES ON THAT THAT WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED AND ALL THE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY I ALSO THINK IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT THREES THE TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT TO CONSIDER. WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S BEING BUILT BUT THOSE ABLE TO MOVE OUT OF EXISTING HOMES IN TO PROJECTS AND OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, JOHN DRAGGO. >> JOHN DRAGGO 6795 HAGGAR STREET. I COME HERE TO SUPPORT STAFFORD VILLAGE AND ALSO TO SUPPORT WORTHINGTON'S REVITALIZATION AS A WHOLE. I FEEL IT'S A GREAT PROJECT IN FRONT OF US. IT HAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT AND REASONABLE HOUSING. I FEEL SOME OF THE OPPONENT OF THE PROJECT THERE'S NO BETTER FINANCIAL OUTCOME AND I THINK THIS GETS TO A PROBLEM IN OUR CITY AS A WHOLE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE OPPONENTS TO CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT DO NOT COME UP WITH FISCALLY EASONABLE SOLUTIONS. IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES TO STAFFORD SCRIMMAGE -- VILLAGE AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M SCOTT GREENE AT 74 GLEN DRIVE AND I'D LIKE TO COME UP [01:05:03] AND SAY I'M A SUPPORTER OF THIS PROJECT. THE TRUCTURES ARE NOT FUNCTIONAL AND ANNOT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS IN ITS CURRENT STATE. STAFFORD VILLAGE CANNOT MEETING THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THE WORTHINGTON AGING POPULATION. MY FEAR IS IF THE CITY DOESN'T LET THE PROJECT GO FORWARD, THEN THE PROPERTY WILL GO IN TO FURTHER DECLINE AND MY BIGGEST FEAR IS ANOTHER DEVELOPER WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CURRENT ZONING AND NOT BUILD RESIDENCES THAT WILL ADDRESS HE NEEDS OF THE SENIOR HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NEXT IS MR. CHUMACHER. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I CAN FEEL THE DARTS BEING THROWN AT MY BACK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT AND DOESN'T SUPPORT PART OF . I'M A LONG-TIME RESIDENTS AND LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE WHEN IT WAS ALL FARMLAND AND MY PARENTS THOUGHT THEY WERE MOVING TOO FAR IN THE COUNTRY AND I GREW UP GOING TO THE STAFFORD VILLAGE AND I WAS THERE ALL TE TIME AND APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSING THERE. I DO FEEL IT'S GONE INTO DECLINE AND MY OBJECTION IS FROM WHERE I LIVE AND FROM THE VILLAGE GREEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUILDINGS AND I FEEL THEY'RE STILL TOO BIG AND TOO TALL. I APPRECIATE THE MAKING THEM SMALLER AND I STILL FEEL IT'S TOO DENSE AND TOO MUCH IN ONE AREA AND TOO TALL. I WALK TO THE LIBRARY ALL THE TIME AND WALK TO THE FARM MARKET. I'M OUT AND ABOUT ALL THE TIME. IT'S A VERY CONGESTED AREA ALREADY. IF YOU EVER TRY TO DRIVE DOWN HARTFORD OR HAVE CHILDREN THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU CAN'T GO TO THE LIBRARY, YOU CAN'T PARK ANYWHERE. IT'S VERY CONGESTED AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS GROWING AND EXPANDING AND TAKING ON ANOTHER GRADE AND YOU STILL HAVE ALL OF THIS WITH MORE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE AREA AND I'LL BE BRIEF, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE WORKERS WHO HAVE CARS AND PEOPLE THERE AND PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT. SUPERFICIALLY AND IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED AND DON'T TRY TO GO WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING BIG. THAT'S MY CONCERN. POT -- NOT THAT WE DON'T NEED IT, WE DO NEED IT. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY AND HEIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO STAND ON THE VILLAGE GREEN WHICH I THINK IS VERY SACRED AND SEE THESE TALL BUILDINGS THERE. I THINK THEY'RE STILL TOO TALL. STILL TOO DENSE. WE CAN SEE THEM FROM SPACE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PETER MCCRAY. >> I'M AN ARCHITECT. I HAVE MY OWN ARCHITECTURRL BUSINESS AND RARELY DOES A PROJECT DOVETAIL INTO A COMMUNITY AND CITY THE WAY THIS PROJECT DOES. AS AN ARCHITECT I THINK IT'S GORGEOUS. HIS REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THE PLACE IS GORGEOUS, THAT'S NOT WHY IT DOVETAILS. IT DOVETAILS BECAUSE THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON THE HIGHEST 3 POPULATION OF SENIORS IN THE METRO AREA. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING - AND I'M IN THAT DEMOGRAPHIC NOW THOUGH I HATE TO ADMIT THAT, BUT I AM. WE NEED IT -- A PLACE TO REMAIN IN OLD WORTHINGTON AND STILL ENJOY WHAT WE'VE COME TO LEARN TO LOVE. BY BEING HERE. I'M AT 74 OLD ORCHARD DRIVE AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HARTFORD AND ORCHARD. I'M ONLY BLOCKS AWAY FROM HERE BUT I'M EVEN CLOSER TO OLD 3 WORTHINGTON IN THE HEART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. [01:10:01] I WANT TO STAY HERE AND HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE AND THIS PROJECT AS DENSE AS IT IS, BARELY SCRATCHES THE SURFACE OF THE NEEDS OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN WORTHINGTON. WE ARE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF MORE PROJECTS IKE THE PROPOSAL FOR STAFFORD VILLAGE. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFULLY CONCEIVED. THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN RUN THROUGH THE MILL AND HAS DONE A COMMENDABLE JOB OF RESPONDING TO ALL THE FEEDBACK HE'S RECEIVED SO FAR AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS THERESE BEACH. ASK I LIVE AT 908 HARVARD STREET PART OF STAFFORD VILLAGE. I THINK THIS PROPOSAL IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT'S EVER HAPPENED TO OUR PLACE. I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2002 AND MY OWN MOTHER COULDN'T COME INTO WORTHINGTON ECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR SENIORS AND SO FOR HER NOT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE CLOSE TO ME IS HARD. SHE'S 92. SHE'S NOT GOING TO MOVE FROM WHERE SHE IS NOW BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE MY MOTHER LIVE CLOSE TO ME TO HELP TAKE CARE OF HER AND WATCHED MANY SENIORS WHERE I LIVED, SOME HAVE TO LEAVE OR OTHER REASONS, AND A WAS TAUGHT AT A YOUNG AGE3 FROM MY MOTHER RESPECT YOUR ELDERS ONE DAY YOU'LL BE JUST LIKE THEM AND YOU'LL NEED THE HELP AND I'VE CARRIED THAT WITH ME. MANY OF YOU ARE YOUNG HERE. YOU TOO WILL BE HOLDER ONE DAY AND -- OLDER ONE DAY AND NEED THIS STUFF. YOU'RE OWN PARENTS MAY NEED IT NOW. AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PEOPLE'S FEELINGS ABOUT IT AND THE HEIGHT AND ALL THAT BUT FROM WHAT'S THERE NOW AND WHAT IS PROPOSED, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S STRIKING. I'VE HEARD MANY THINGS ABOUT WHY PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO REMOVE THE TREES AND WANT TO SAVE THEM. ONE TREE THEY WANT TO SAVE IN THE BACK HAS ALREADY CRASHED ON TWO CARS AND TOTALLY DESTROYED SENIOR CARS. AND TO HAVE THIS PROPOSAL AND I LOVE GOD'S NATURE. THERE'S NOTHING MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN GOD'S NATURE. AND THEY'RE PROPOSAL AND THEY'LL BRING IN REVENUE FOR WORTHINGTON. SENIORS WILL BE ABLE TO WALK BRINGING IN BUSINESS AND THE LIBRARY AND WE BRING STUDENTS TO US FROM THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. IT'S A JOY HAVING THEM. I THINK IT TEACHES THEM RESPECT FOR THEIR ELDERS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT MEANS TO GROW AND GROW OLD. WE HAVE THE KIDS COME THROUGH OUR AREA AND SOMEONE SAID CERTAIN AREAS AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T IVE IN STAFFORD AND COME TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SIT WITH US. STAFFORD HAS WELCOMED PEOPLE FOR YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. AND WORTHINGTON I AGREE NEEDS TO GROW AND I HEAR THEY DON'T WANT TO DOIS -- TO DO THIS OR THAT AND ARE SNOBS BUT WE'RE LOVING PEOPLE AND T NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TO THE SENIORS. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING I'VE COME TO BUT THIS IS HEAVY ON MY HEART. I LIVE THERE. I REALLY WOULD HATE TO SEE EMPTY BUILDINGS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WORTHINGTON WANTS AND NCR COULD LEAVE THE PROPERTY AND LEAVE THE BUILDING S THAT WAY OR TEAR THEM DOWN AND LEAVE AN EMPTY LOT. I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND INVITE MORE PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NEXT IS TOM BURNS. >> COUNCIL THANK YOU. I LIVE ABOUT 700 FEET AWAY FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SO I FEEL IT'S RIGHT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY [01:15:04] WIFE AND I WALK THE DOGS AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY IN THE COMMUNITY AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ATTENDED IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND ONE THING I HEARD A LOT ABOUT IS TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I HEARD IF WE BUILD THIS SOMEHOW IT'S GOING DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DO SOMETHING NEGATIVE AND IT ENCOMPASSES HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK AROUND YOU. EVERYTHING CHANGES. EVERYTHING ON THIS EARTH IS IN A CONTINUOUS STATE OF EVOLVING AND ADAPTING AND CHANGING. YOU WERE NOT PUT ON THIS EARTH TO REMAIN STAGNANT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE STRUGGLE WITH AS A COMMUNITY, AS WE MOVE FORWARD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS EVOLVING AND CHANGING AND ADAPTING TO THE RESIDENTS' NEEDS. THEY'RE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE 1970S AND WHY WE NEED SOMETHING THAT HAS MORE HOUSING AND IS DENSER. THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS MOVED. IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO LOOK UP IN THE CENSUS DATA AND SEE THE OVER 65 POPULATION DO. IT'S EASY TO DO. I DID IT TODAY. ONE THING I HEARD FROM HE RESPONDENTS AT THE DECEMBER MEETING IS HIS HOW'S WAS IN THE AREA AND WAS WORRIED HE'D FEEL BOX IN BECAUSE OF OTHER LARGE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA AND IT GOES TO THE POINT THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY EVOLVING AND CHANGING IT NEEDS TO BETTER SUIT THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF WORTHINGTON AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAY IS A POSITIVE. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO MENTIONBURY RUN OUT OF TIME IS - BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S MORE INTERESTING IS I LOOKED AT NUMBERS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU LOOK AT, THE AVERAGE COST FOR INDEPENDENT SENIOR HOUSING WAS $297 A MONTH OR $411 A MONTH AND THERE WAS TALK AT MPC IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. ACTUALLY IT'S IN LINE WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE IN. I THINK IT'S AFFORDABLE AND ON TOP OF IT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THAT IS THE ONLY WAY ANN COMMUNITY HAS OVERCOME AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE IS BUILDING MORE HOUSING. YOU DON'T GET THAT LOWER UNLESS THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPLY SO IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN WORTHINGTON WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF THESE OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'LL MAKE IT TRULY AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE. I START WITH A QUOTE AND I WANT TO END WAY QUOTE, IT'S LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO CHARLES DARWIN BUT THE QUOTE IS IT'S NOT HE STRONGEST OF THE SPECIES THAT SURVIVES, NOR THE MOST INTELLIGENT BUT THE ONES MOST ADAPTABLE TO CHANGE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND NEED TO SEE WORTHINGTON CHANGE AND DOESN'T -- ADAPT TO BETTER SUIT THE CITIZENS WE HAVE. I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FRANK SHEPHERD. >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I'M FRANK SHEPHERD AT 600 KEYS LANE AND MY WIFE AND A WALK UP IN THIS AREA ALL THE TIME SO WE'D LIKE TO GET CLOSER SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WALK SO FAR. I'M A RETIRED ARCHITECT. I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ANGLE. AFTER SERVING ON A SENIOR OR RETIREMENT VILLAGE BOARD FOR 10 YEARS AND CHAIRING THAT BOARD FOR TWO, I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT SENIOR LIVING AND WHAT THEY EXPECT AND BELIEVE ME IT'S CHANGED OVER THAT 10 YEARS. NUMBER ONE THE RENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT OUT OF LINE BY ANY STRETCH. BUT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING NOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY AND THAT'S THE REASON THEY'RE LOOKING TO RENT OPPOSED TO AN OLDER VERSION OF SENIOR LIVING WHERE YOU BUY IN AND EXPECT TO SAY THERE. THEY WANT THE FLEXIBILITY OF RENTING. THEY DO. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO AND THEY WANT AMENITIES THAT GEORGE SAID [01:20:11] THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. I WANTED TO TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE IT'S A PERFECTLY PLANNED SENIOR PROJECT FROM HE INSIDE. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: JENNY -- LENNY SORRY. >> MY NAME IS LENNY I LIVE AT 217 PINK WAY DRIVE AND I HATE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC FOR THE RECORD. I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE AT ALL. I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF AND HE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. I'VE AGAIN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY CLOSE TO 30 YEARS. I MANAGED PROJECTS 10 MILLION PLUS SO WHEN I TALK TO YOU GUYS I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A FUNDAMENTAL BACKGROUND ON THINGS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. AND ABOUT A MONTH AGO I WAS AT A PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET. SOMEBODY HANDED ME A FLYER THAT SAID HEY, THIS IS A PROJECT AND I LIVE HALF A BLOCK FROM THIS AND IF YOU MAGINE THINKING I'M A BLOCK AWAY FROM 134,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WAS KIND OF SHOCKING. MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. I DEALT WITH THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON AND HAD ARGUMENTS OVER BASEMENT WINDOWS. THERE'S NO WAY THEY'LL ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. THIS DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE 3 BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE IMMEDIATE DEMOGRAPHIC. MY BIG ISSUE IS THE BUILDINGS ARE TOO BIG AND I LOOKED AT THE PRINCE AS REFERENCE POINTS TO KIND OF BRING IN REFERENCE. AND THE FIRST WAS 1,000 SQUARE FEET EN MASSE. THAT BUILDING REPRESENTS 1.04% OF THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. ST. JOHN'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS 5,422. 22% AND THE BANK 11.65% OF THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. DO YOU SEE THE GAP? AGE THERE WERE 372 SQUARE FOOT 3.73% THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. THE LARGEST WAS KILLBORN SCHOOL RELATIVE MASS 75% OF THIS BUILDING. THE ARCHITECTURAL MASS IS ENORMOUS. WHEN I READ THE INFORMATION [01:25:21] TAKING CARE OF THE SCALE I DON'T SEE IT AND WILSON HILL ELEMENTARY HAS THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF THIS BUILDING ON THREE ACRES INSTEAD OF 12 >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SANDRA. >> SANDRA 876 HARTFORD STREET. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENCES DID QUITE A BIT OF OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORS. I DON'T RECALL STATING I WANT TO LIVE 43 FEET FROM A PARKING GARAGE WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL STORIES ABOVE IT. I LIVE TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THAT. I'LL BE 43 FEET FROM A NOISY PARKING GARAGE, APARTMENTS WITH AIR-CONDITIONERS THROWN TOP AND MORE PARKING. THIS WASN'T MY CHOICE. I'M FLATTERED SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO M. I'M SURE WE'LL GET ALONG REALLY GREAT WHEN YOU MOVE IN BUT WHERE'S THE RESPECT FOR ME AND THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS. WE CANNOT SUPPORT THIS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S A TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND I REALLY DO WANT TO KNOW WHERE ARE YOU GOING PUT ALL THE SNOW? UP AGAINST ANY PROPERTY? I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT MOVING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ANYONE WOULD EVER CONSIDER REZONING THIS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO THIS MONSTROSITY. IT'S JUST TOO BIG. MAKE IT SMALLER AND MORE TO SCALE AND MORE LIVABLE. IT'S JUST THE WRONG SITE FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> I LIVE AT 670 MORNING STREET IN OLD WORTHINGTON. I'M HERE UNSUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL AND REQUEST FOR REZONING. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH STAFFORD VILLAGE IS NOT IN DISPUTE AND WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THE NEED FOR SENIOR HOUSING FOR INDEPENDENT SENIORS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GOOD LOCATION HERE THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO A LOT OF THINGS WHO MOVE IN. MOVED IN 43 YEARS AGO AND CHOSE OLD WORTHINGTON BECAUSE OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND TREES AND CONVENIENCE AND AUTHENTICITY. SO I CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT MY COMMUNITY AND WHAT HAPPENS TO MY COMMUNITY WITH DEVELOPMENT AND RE-DEVELOPMENT AND I APPLAUD NCR FOR DOING THEIR HOMEWORK AND MEETING WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS TO HEAR WHAT THEY WANTED. THEY HAVE NOT PROPOSED A MONOLITHIC GEOGRAPHY OF NOWHERE PROJECT AND THAT WOULD BE PROJECT THAT CAN GO ANYWHERE. JUST PLOP IT DOWN ANYWHERE. THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT. THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE OF WORTHINGTON. THEY HAVE EMULATED THAT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND THE MATERIALS AS WELL AS SETBACKS AND GREEN BUILDINGS AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND I THINK IT WOULD FIT WELL INTO OLD WORTHINGTON. AND NCR ALSO BUILDS AND OPERATES QUALITY COMMUNITY SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY UILD ISN'T 20 YEARS FROM NOW GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TEAR DOWN. [01:30:01] SOME SAY WE SHOULDN'T BUILD IN THE ENVISIONING COMMITTEE'S REPORT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THINKING BUT THE VISIONING COMMITTEE WON'T COME UP WITH SPECIFICS WITH HOW WE GET TO THE VISION AND WE ALREADY KNOW RESIDENTS WANT MORE INDEPENDENT HOUSING FOR SENIORS. THIS IS ON A SITE ALREADY BEING USED FOR THAT. THERE'S NO NEED TO WAIT FOR THE REPORT TO COME OUT. I THINK WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE NCR HERE AND I ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT OF THE REZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK FILL OUT A YELLOW SLIP AND GIT -- GIVE IT TO MS. THRESS OVER HERE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CRAIG MURPHY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND PRO TEM MEYER AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY WIFE ND MY THREE DAUGHTERS LIVE AT 6762 BERRENS STREET AND I HAVE A QUICK DISCLAIMER. FIRST I WANT TO JUST THANK MR. TABOT HE OPENED TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT HOW T'S ABOUT PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE IMAGES ON THE SCREEN IT'S ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE. MY DISCLAIMER IS THAT I HAVE TWO FAILED TOAST MAN JOBS ON MY RESUME. MY PRIMARY LESSON IS TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE THIS HOUSING SUPPORTS. I COMMEND THE APPROACH NATIONAL CHURCH HAS TAKEN WITH THIS PROPERTY AND I COMMEND COUNCIL AND THE TEAMS INVOLVED AS A WAY TO LOOK AT LOOKING AT SERVICE FOR A RANGE OF SENIORS N OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST THINK 10 YEARS FROM NOW WE'LL WONDER WHY WAS THIS EVER A QUESTION. I THINK WE'LL ASK OURSELVES WHY WAS THIS THE CENTER OF DEBATE IN MORE AND MORE COMMUNITIES ARE SCREENING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ESPECIALLY FOR OLDER ADULTS. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO EMBRACE AN EXTREMELY RARE CHANCE TO POSITION US FOR THE FUTURE AND MAXIMIZE IT. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND I'VE BEEN TO MOST THE MEETINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VOTE AND A BELIEVE WE S A COMMUNITY HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND I'M IMPRESSED WITH HOW NATIONAL CHURCH HAS LISTEN AND DOWN THEIR HOMEWORK AND EVOLVED THEIR IDEAS TO MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS. DECISIONS LIKE TONIGHT DEFINE US AND IT'S A SIGNATURE IN THIS GENERATION'S THUMB PRINT ON THE HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY. I HOPE YOU'LL PAUSE TO CONSIDER THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT BUT WILL BE SERVED BY STAFFORD VILLAGE AND I LOVE THE COMMENTS ABOUT CHANGE TONIGHT AND THE ONE THAT STICKS FOR ME IS CHANGE IS CONSTANT BUT TRANSITIONS CAN BE MEASURED IN TIME. I HOPE YOU'LL HELP US MAKE THIS TRANSITION AS A COMMUNITY Y APPROVING THIS TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NEXT WE HAVE NICKFULKER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND COUNCIL. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WORTHINGTON [INDISCERNIBLE] OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS SENT A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT WHICH PROTECTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ELDERS OUR COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTS THOSE WHO WANT TO RETURN AFTER THE REBUILD AT THEIR CURRENT RATE. MANY HAVE USED THE PANTRY TOTALLING OVER 560 VISIT. WHEN WE REALIZED SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE UNABLE TO PARTNER BECAUSE OF LIMITATIONS WE PARTNERED WITH THE ALLIANCE CLUB AND PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH TO ENSURE OUR NEIGHBORERS -- NEIGHBORS HAVE HEALTHY FOOD CHOICES AND IT WILL BE SAFER FOR RESIDENTS DUE TO THEIR SIZE AND BETTER ACCESSIBILITY AND THE NEW [01:35:03] DEVELOPMENT NCR WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT KEEP PEOPLE HEALTHY AND CONNECTEDED TO THEIR COMMUNITY. -- CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY. HAVING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT STAFFORD VILLAGE AND SEE THE STATE OF THE PROPERTY I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER TO SUPPORT THESE RESIDENTS AND THEIR LIVING SITUATIONS. THE RESOURCE PANTRY BELIEVES WORTHINGTON IS AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY AND IT WOULD BE A LOSS TO THE CITY IF THE RESIDENTS OF STAFFORD VILLAGE WERE NO LONGER A PART OF THAT. IT'S DEVELOPED A PROPOSAL THAT PROTECTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PROTECT THE LIFE STYLES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE COMPLEX AND URGE THE CITY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MICHAEL VICKS. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M AT 6560 EVENING STREET. I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE [INDISCERNIBLE] I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDEN JOSHUA LLOYD. >> I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WORTHINGTON 15 YEARS NOW AND A REFORMED ARCHITECT NOW IN THE CONSULTING BUSINESS BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT PART OF MY EXPERIENCE AS AN ARCHITECT HAS BEEN IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY WORKING FOR, FOR-PROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS AND THEY BUILD QUALITY PRODUCT FOR THE RESIDENTS PRIMARILY BECAUSE [INDISCERNIBLE] SO WE'RE NOTHING GETTING A DEVELOPER TO BUILD SOMETHING AND LEAVE IN A FEW YEARS. A LOT OF THE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS THESE DIES DEVELOPERS BUILD IT AND HAND IT OVER TO ME. SO IN THAT REGARD WE KNOW THAT OWNER IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY AND KEEP IT IN GOOD QUALITY AND PROVIDE SERVICES WHICH WE GREATLY APPROVE AND REGARDING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DENSITY, IF WE WANT TO BE A SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY WE NEED TO LOOK AT DENSITY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE WALKABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND TRANSPORTATION AND LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION OPPOSED TO 86 HOUSES AND A FIELD THAT COULD BE USED FOR FARMING. WE ALSO HAVE HAVE THE DIVERSITY OF RESIDENTS. THEN JUST OVERALL WITH THE DENSITY THE ARCHITECT'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB IT'S 100,000 SQUARE FOOT AND IT LOOKS LIKE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DAVID FAUST. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M DAVID FOUST AT 675 OXFORD STREET ART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING WE ARE TAXED WITH SOMETIMES A VERY DIFFICULT JOB IN LOOKING AT NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN TO TOWN AND AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO 3 FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPLY THE STANDARD WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO UPHOLD. I HAD A MESSAGE TONIGHT I'LL ONLY WORK ON PART OF THAT. I WANT TO POINT OUT I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROJECT THAT IS NOT TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF MORE SENIOR HOUSING MORE SENIOR HOUSING. I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY NO [01:40:02] VOTE WHEN MPV VOTED ON THIS AND I THINK THAT DESERVES TO BE CLARIFIED. I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU SHOULD VOTE NO OR THAT YOU SHOULDN'T SUPPORT SENIOR HOUSING. I THINK WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TELL YOU THE REASONS I VOTED NO AND HOPEFULLY ET YOU TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS I THINK NEED TO BE CLARIFIED AND FULLY UNDERSTOOD BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT. HERE THEY ARE. IF YOU EED SOMETHING SPECIFIC THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THE SPECIFIC CITY ORDINANCES AND GUIDELINES FOR DEVELOPMENT THIS PROJECT IN MY ESTIMATE DOES NOT MEET WHAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY APPLIED THEM PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO 117705 FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND MASS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS THEY PROVIDED I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS, WE TEND TO BE DRAWN TO THE ARTIST RENDERINGS AND THEY'VE GONE OVERBOARD AND WHEN I INSPECT THE PLANS FOR THIS, WHICH I THINK YOU NEED TO DO PLANS LIKE THIS THAT ARE UP ON THE SCREEN AND DON'T BOTHER PULLING UP OTHER DRAWINGS BUT DRAWING C4 SHOWS A HEIGHT OF THE FIRST FLOOR WITH THE ZERO FLOOR LEVEL OF 12 FEET FROM THE FIRST FLOOR TO THE SECOND FLOOR, 10 FEET FROM THE SECOND FLOOR TO THE ATTIC SPACE. THAT'S 22 FEET. IF YOU LOOK EIGHT IN THE RENDERING IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN WORTHINGTON. THE ROOM WE ARE STAND INNING RIGHT NOW THE HEIGHT F THE CEILING IS 21 FEET. SO AS YOU AND COUNCIL SIT UP IN FRONT AND LUKE -- LOOK AT THE BACK WALL THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE TYPICAL TWO-STORY BUILDING WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. I REALIZE THAT'S NOT A FAIR COMPARISON BECAUSE WE'RE INDOORS, WE'RE IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE BUT WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE RENDERINGS AREN'T A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK IKE FROM THE STREET. THEY'RE SHOWING 20 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S THE SETBACK. IF YOU WERE STANDING AT THE SIDEWALK 20 FEET TO LOOK AT THE TWO-STORY HIGH WALL PLUS THE ROOF PLUS MAYBE FOUR FEET OF BASE AND 20 FEET FROM YOUR SIDEWALK THIS IS THE DISTANCE FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. IN ADDITION TO THAT AND THEY CALL OUT IN THE FOOTNOTE THE 20 FOOT IS TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DO THAT BECAUSE THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE IS THE PORCH AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PORCHES ON HERE AS I SCALE THEM OFF THEY APPEAR TO BE SEVEN FEET AND THEY'RE ONE AND TWO STORY PORCHES WHICH REALLY MEANS THE PORCH STRUCTURE YOU'LL SEE FROM THE SIDEWALK IS RIGHT WHERE I'M STANDING WITH ABOUT 13 FEET FROM ME TO WHERE YOU ARE ON THE SIDEWALK. IF YOU HAVEN'T WALKED THE SITE WITH PLANS IN HAND AND LOOKED AT THE PLANS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS YOU NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS. YOU REALLY NEED TO PACE THEM OFF, LOOK AT WHERE THE CORNERS OF THE BUILDINGS ARE AND LOOK AT THE HEIGHTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THERE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S DONE THAT AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS I VOTED NO. THE SECOND -- >> MR. FOUST TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FURTHER AS I THINK YOUR TESTIMONY IS EXCEPTIONAL. >> NO. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE ALOUD -- ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT. SORRY, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: CHRIS RULE. >> MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M AT 539 PARK OVERLOOK DRIVE IN COLONIAL HILLS. I'VE BEEN A FAN OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN NCR DO FOR A LONG TIME. IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS THE PROJECT HAS BECOME EVEN MORE PERSONAL TO ME. I'M A FINANCIAL PLANNER. I HAVE A CLIENT WHO LIVES IN WORTHINGTON. SHE'LL 85 AND WAS TELLING ME I [01:45:01] WANT TO MOVE INTO A SENIOR LIVING SPACE IN WORTHINGTON AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING. SO SHE CAME TO ME IN JANUARY AND HEY, CHRIS, I SOLD MY HOUSE AND MOVED OUT OF WORTHINGTON. IT'S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE THAT'S A PERSONAL THING FOR ME. MORE SO IN THE LAST WEEK A NEIGHBOR THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM ME HAVE BEEN LIKE GRAND PARENTS TO MY KIDS, HIS WIFE'S BEEN GOING DOWNHILL AND HIS WIFE'S BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL THE LAST FOUR DAYS AND AID CHRIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I WANT HER TO DIE AT HOME BUT IF SHE CAN'T I JUST DON'T WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE IN WORTHINGTON. HE'S ON A WAIT LIST BUT THERE'S NO SENIOR HOUSING FOR HIM TO MOVE HER INTO. WE NEED MORE TO. WE NEED MORE HOUSING. AND EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT. I SAW I THINK THERE'S A COTTAGE CONCEPT SOMEBODY PROPOSED AND IT LOOKS GREAT BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE PROJECT ISN'T JUST THAT IT'S SENIOR HOUSING IN WORTHINGTON BUT STANDS ON THE NCR STELLAR REPUTATION OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING SO YES, THEY HAVE MARKET RATE HOUSING AS A MEANS OF HAVING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUSTAIN. IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET STUFF LIKE THIS DONE IN WORTHINGTON. I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PARTNER SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DONNA LA RUE-BRADLEY. >> I LIVE AT 385 RILEY AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING A COUPLE OF MY FEEDBACKS AS YOU GET READY TO VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I LIVE IN WORTHINGTON AND I'M AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSULTANT AND IN A PRIOR LIFE WORKED WAY TAX CREDIT DEVELOPER AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER IN INDIANA AND PARTNER WITH NATIONAL CHURCH AND WANT TO FOCUS ON A COUPLE THINGS GIVEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH NATIONAL CHURCH. AT THAT TIME AND SINCE THEN IN TERMS OF BEING AN EFFECTIVE PARTNER AND HONORING THEIR COMMITMENT AND A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION, A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS ALREADY BUT I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THE FACT THEY OWN AND MANAGE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES WHICH IS INCREDIBLY UNIQUE IN TERMS OF THIS SPACE PARTICULARLY AMONG THOSE THAT ARE MARKET RATE AND A WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HEAR THEY OWN AND MANAGE AND CARE AND ARE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPER AND OWNER WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN I WORKED WITH THEM IN FACT THIS IS HOW I STARTED MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT DEVELOPER THEY DIDN'T HONOR MY FOR-PROFIT COMPANY AND DIDN'T HONOR THEIR AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL CHURCH AND IT WAS NATIONAL CHURCH AND I LOOKING AT THE AGREEMENT WE HAD THAT SAID MY COMPANY WOULD DO THESE THINGS. I LEARNED LATE ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU HAVE GOOD HIGH-QUALITY DESIGN AND PUSH FOR SERVICES AND IT WAS NOT SOMETHING HONORED BY MY FORMER COMPANY. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I'VE BEEN IN MANY COMMUNITIES WHERE WE DON'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR HOUSING FOR SENIORS OR OF ALL INCOME LEVELS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I APPRECIATE THAT AND MENTION THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE FACT WE MAY BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DESIGNS WHERE SOMETHING ELSE THEY MAY LOOK DIFFERENT. FINANCIALLY I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK TO DO A COTTAGE DESIGN WHERE THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY WTER, SEWER AND BUILT LIKE IN HOUSING. YOU HAVE MORE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO DO MORE SERVICES AND PROVIDE HOUSING WHEN YOU HAVE ECONOMIES OF SCALE LIKE THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE. I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COTTAGE OR INDIVIDUAL UNITS THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT HERE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO I'M NOT SURE I KNOW OF ANY DEVELOPER OR OWNER OF HOUSING IN THIS [01:50:05] COUNTRY THAT WOULD CHANGE THE SITE PLANS THIS MANY TIMES OR ANYONE THAT WOULD DO AN AGREEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE THEM AFFORDABLE AND GOING BACK TO HONORING THEIR COMMITMENTS, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD DO THAT OTHER THAN NATIONAL CHURCH IN THIS COUNTRY AND I'M PROUD THEY'RE NEIGHBORERS AND HERE IN UR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M TOM METZ AT 31 EST STAFFORD. I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ENDORSE EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE JUST SAID IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. I SWORE I WOULD NEVER MOVE AWAY FROM MY TOWN AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE. I MOVED BACK TO HELP MY AGING PARENTS. EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS I FEEL VERY DEEPLY AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS WILL ADD VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO HAVE THIS KIND OF DIVERSITY. WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE EVERY HOUSE IS THE SAME DISTANCE, THE SAME SIZE AND EVERYTHING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE WALKABILITY YOU HAVE IN DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON. I THINK IT'S WHAT MAKES HISTORICAL WORTHINGTON WHAT IT IS. AND THAT'S WHY I VALUE MEMBERS OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING LESS THAN 100 YEARS OLD. I'M A CRANKY CUSTOMER OF ARCHITECTURE ORDINARILY BUT MY ONE FEEDBACK ON HIS PROJECT WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT I THINK IS VERY ATTRACTIVE ARCHITECTURE ACTUALLY. IT LOOKS AS IF EVERY NE OF THOSE PORCHES HAS STAIRS AND I THINK SEVERAL STEPS TO THE FRONT DOOR AND I THINK MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AT STAFFORD VILLAGE RIGHT NOW USE PERSONAL MOBILITY DEVICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I WOULD ASK PLEASE DON'T MAKE SOMEONE WITH A DISABILITY ENTER THE REAR DOOR. DON'T MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THE GARAGE OR THE BACK. PLEASE LET'S HAVE A ZERO THRESHOLD AND TREAD INTO THE BUILDING. TO THE BUILDING.TO THE BUILDING. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: NOEL. >> THANK YOU MADAME PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND I LIVE AT 164 EAST KNOLL STREET A FEW YARDS FROM THIS PROPERTY PROPOSED TODAY. A COUPLE THINGS HERE. I'M A NEIGHBOR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. WHAT I NEED FROM THE COUNCIL IS CLARIFICATION OF REPORTS WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND IT INCLUDES A REPORT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND A REPORT ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IMPACT ON PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE AREA. I HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY 3 ENGINEERING AND HAVE SEEN SOME PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE DIRECT IMPACT TO MY PROPERTY. WHAT I'M SKING HERE IS NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SENIOR PROPERTY OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND THIS GENERATION, IT'S GREAT WE CAN DO THAT BUT THERE IS INFORMATION THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLARIFIED TO THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PICTURE OF THIS REGARDING THE IMPACT IT'S GOING HAVE AS WE LOOK TO THE BIG PICTURE AND SO CLARIFICATION ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S REALLY A CHAMPION ABOUT THE MASSIVENESS OF THE [01:55:04] BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY TO SENIORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THE MASSIVENESS WITH THE BUILDING IS NOT JUST A SOLUTION IN THE F PHYSICAL. THEY'RE SMALL UNITS HOUSING THEY'RE CATERING TO THE SENIOR 3 AGED POPULATION AND UNITS THERE ARE ACCESSIBLE. TO SAY IT'S A WAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN FRONT OF US TODAY AND TOMORROW AND OR THE NEXT 3 GENERATION IT'S NOT TRUE TO JUST GO WITH THAT MIND SET. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE ENTIRE PICTURE. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M ASKING FOR AND IF WE COULD ALSO CLARIFY HOW THIS IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THE TAX REVENUE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIDDLE INCOME SENIOR. THE AVERAGE OF MIDDLE INCOME SENIOR IN FRANKLIN COUNTY WHAT IS PROPOSED IS BETWEEN $3400 TO $4,000 A MONTH TIMES 12 TIMES 10 YEARS HOW'S THAT AFFORDABLE? PEOPLE WHO LOOK LICK ME IN THIS COMMUNITY -- LOOK LIKE ME IN THIS COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. IT'S GREAT BUT IT'S NOT THE WHOLE NTIRE SOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE YELLOW SHEETS THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN SO AT HIS POINT -- HAND IT TO MS. THRESS AND WE'LL HAVE YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M GOING RAIN ON THE PARADE OF ACCOLADES. SORRY. I HAVE PREPARED REMARKS BUT I'LL EDIT THEM. I'LL BE BRIEF. I WANT TO POINT OUT WORTHINGTON HAS TWO ENCLAVES THAT MAKE IT VERY SPECIAL AND -- DISTINGUISH IT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES AND THE RUSH CREEK VILLAGE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACE. SO THE CITY LEADERS, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CHIP AWAY AT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BY PERMITTING AN OVERSIZED STRUCTURE TO BE BUILT. A STRUCTURE WHICH WILL BENEFIT A FEW BUT IMPINGE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR ALL? AND WHILE THE PLANS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND REALLY NICE BUT NOT FOR THAT LOCATION. THEY'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE. I THINK THAT LOCATION NEEDS SOMETHING THAT'S LESS BULKY. YOU GET THE POINT. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY WANTS TO PROVIDE SENIOR HOUSING BUT SURELY THERE MUST BE A MORE 3 INNOVATIVE AND APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THIS. AND I CEDE THE REST OF MY TIME TO DOUG FOUST. PLEASE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT'S FINE. >> I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF YOUR COMMENTS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT'S FINE, MR. FOUST. >> I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THE HEARINGS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I CAN TALK FOR HOURS. THE OTHER TWO REASONS THAT I WAS CONCERNED AND VOTE D NO IS BECAUSE FEEL WE HAVE THROWN THE NEIGHBORS UNDER HE BUS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GIVEN PROPERTY CONCERN FOR THEIR CONCERNS AND I'LL POINT OUT ONE THING FOR THE FUTURE I THINK WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM NEXT YEAR. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU PUT 85 CONDENSING UNITS ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S IT'S LIKE TO HAVE ONE OR TWO AND EVEN IF YOU PUT A WALL THERE'S GOING TO BE A NOISE PROBLEM THAT WILL CHANGE THEIR LIFE. I THINK THAT'S WRONG. THE THIRD RIN -- REASON I VOTED [02:00:04] AGAINST THIS IS THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. THAT'S BEEN THE PHILOSOPHY FROM THE BEGINNING. I HINK ANYBODY THAT HAS BROUGHT UP THE DIFFERENT CONCEPT ON THIS LOT HAS BEEN TOLD NO. NCR HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE AT AVOIDING THE WHOLE SITUATION. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. I THINK FOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL IF YOU PICTURE A BUILDING THIS SIZE OR THIS CLOSE TO YOUR OWN HOME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT THEN VOTE FOR THIS. IF YOU THINK THIS IS TOO BIG FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO BE THIS CLOSE TO YOUR HOME, THEN WHY WOULD IT BE GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBOR IN THIS AREA? THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS WE EED TO LOOK AT MORE CAREFULLY BECAUSE WE SAY THIS IS THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE. THOSE ARE MY THREE REASONS FOR 3 VOTING NO. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M GLAD WE GOT TO HEAR THE REST. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT HASN'T FILLED OUT A YELLOW SLIP THAT WANTS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S NOT SPOKEN IN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME. I THINK WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK SO ANYBODY WHO HAS TO USE THE RESTROOM OR WHATEVER BECAUSE WHEN WE START COUNCIL RESOLUTION AND SO LET'S TAKE FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. 9:36. >> HE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A LONG EVENING AHEAD OF US AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYTHING FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TIME AN EFFORT TO COME OUT AND SHARE YOUR IDEAS AND DOING IT IN SUCH A RESPECTFUL MANNER TOWARDS EVERYBODY. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES WILL BE BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND ALSO BEING KIND TO EVERYBODY GIVING THEM EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS OF THEIR CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND LOVE OF WORTHINGTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I'M LEFT WITH THE FEELING THAT SOLOMON HAD THE BABY AND ALEXANDER HAD THE GORDION NOT AND WORTHINGTON STAFFORD VILLAGE. THERE'S NO ABSOLUTE RIGHT OR WRONG HERE. I EMBRACE ALL THE VALUES AND IDEAS ESPOUSED HERE TONIGHT SO THANK YOU AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO MAKE A SOUND UDGMENT BASED ON EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD AND SPEAK FROM MY HEART AS WELL. MY GRANDMOTHER DIVED -- DIED OF ALZHEIMER'S AND THEY LIVED TOGETHER AT WHAT WAS FIRST COMMUNITY VILLAGE OWNED BY FIRST [02:05:01] COMMUNITY VILLAGE AND NOW OWNED BY NCR. THAT WAS A FORMATIVE EXPERIENCE IN MY TEEN YEARS AND THROUGH COLLEGE. AS I THOUGHT FURTHER ABOUT THIS I REALIZE NCR AND I GET IT, I'M IN MARKETING MYSELF BUT REALIZE WHAT THEY WANT THIS TO DO IS TO ASSOCIATE OUR OWN FEELING AND LOVE FOR SENIORS IN OUR OWN LIVES. WITH NCR AND WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT I GETTIS. -- I GET IT. WHAT IS UNFORTUNATE TO ME IS I FEEL THE IDEA OF EQUATING THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WHETHER SOMEONE IS COMPASSIONATE AND LOVING TOWARDS SENIORS HAS TAKEN ROUTE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEBODY IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH I'M NOT, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHY IN A MINUTE AND IT'S NOT I'M SUFFICIENTLY COMPASSIONATE AND I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND I ASK YOU TO NOT THINK SO. THERE ARE OTHER VALUES AND OUR FEELING IS OUR COMMITMENT TO AND SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS SENIORS DOES NOT AND SHOULD NOT SUPERCEDE ALL OTHER VALUES THAT THIS COMMUNITY HOLDS DEAR. AND SO WITH THAT SAID THE FOCUS OF MY COMMENTS WILL BE NOT NCR OR EVEN SPECIFICALLY THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT MAY END UP BEING THE BEST PROJECT FOR THIS SITE BUT I DON'T KNOW. AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME. THIS IS ECHOING WHAT MR. FOUST SAID. I DON'T FEEL LIKE ALTERNATIVES HAVE TRULY BEEN EXPLORED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS PERTAINS NOT JUST TO THIS PROJECT BUT THE PROCESS OUR CITY HAS UNDERTAKEN ABOUT HOW WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION ABOUT THIS SIGNIFICANT REALLY CHARACTER-DEFINING DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL FOR OUR CITY. SO IN MY ASSESSMENT AND THEN EXPLAIN WHY AND I'D LIKE TO DO IT THAT WAY AND THEN ADVANCE A DIFFERENT WAY OF PROCEEDING. MY CONCLUSIONS ARE THIS, IF WE PROCEED LIKE WE HAVE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL WITH ONES COMING DOWN THE ROAD I THINK THERE'LL BE COST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE IDENTIFIED OR TOYED IN MY OWN MIND THREE DIFFERENT COSTS I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THINK AS A COMMUNITY WE WON'T MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IN MY JUDGMENT AND I'LL SUBSTANTIATE THIS IN A MINUTE I HOPE, WE HAVE NOT SUFFICIENTLY INFORMED AND EMPOWERED THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY WITH FULL AND FAIR INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING. QUITE CONTRARE AND IF WE ACT OR PRODE LIKE THIS AGAIN WE'LL -- PROCEED LIKE THIS AGAIN WE'LL EXACERBATE THE COMMUNITY. I FEEL FULL AND FAIR INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE SHARED FROM THE OUTSET AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND IF IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTS SENSE THAT AND KNOW THAT AND THEY BECOME FRUSTRATED AND DISTRUSTFUL. THIRDLY, IF WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IN THE ARCH ARCHITECT PROJECT WE KEEP A TWO-CLASS SYSTEM IN THE COMMUNITY. ONE SYSTEM FOR BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE PUD WHICH ESSENTIALLY WIPES CLEAN THE ZONING STANDARDS, ONE STANDARD FOR BUSINESSES AND ANOTHER STANDARD FOR RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE TILL EXPECTED TO COME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND COMPLY WITH DESIGN GUIDELINES. I'M NOT UST SAYING THIS RHETORICALLY BUT I MEAN IT. WHY SHOULD HOMEOWNERS FEEL LIKE [02:10:01] THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD ANYMORE? IF THEY SEE THIS BUILT CLEARLY OVER RULING LONG TRADITIONS OF STANDARDS WE'VE ESTABLISHED IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHY SHOULD THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO PAINT THEIR DOOR OR PUT WINDOWS IN. IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND HOW WOULD YOU SAY NO TO A HOME OWNER THAT WOULD WANT TO EVEN BUILD A TWO OR THREE-STORY ADDITION TO THEIR HOME MAYBE ADDING FOR GOOD TOUCH. I NEED A PLACE FOR MY MOTHER-IN-LAW. HOW IS OUR BOARD GOING TO SAY NO TO THAT? SO MAYBE WE WON'T AND MAYBE THE TRUTH OF THINGS IS THIS, MAYBE OUR COMMUNITY IS TIRED OF AND DONE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DISTRICT. MAYBE TIMES HAVE CHANGED. MAYBE IT IS TIME TO JUST SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, YEAH, WE'RE AN HISTORIC TOWN BUT ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND ZONING STANDARDS, ARE PASSE. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. TIME TO MOVE ON. I HOPE NOT. I DON'T FEEL THAT WAY. I THINK THERE'S OMETHING PRICELESS OF LIVING IN A HISTORIC COMMUNITY AND THERE'S SOMETHING PRICELESS FOR US THAT MOVE IN DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND IF WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT IT'S GOING CREATE A TWO-CLASS SYSTEM I DON'T THINK CAN HOLD. SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO MAKE MY POINT BY LOOKING AT STAFF MEMOS. STAFF MEMOS SOUNDS INNOCUOUS BUT STAFF MEMOS GUIDES STRUCTURE IN THE ENTIRE REVIEW PROCESS AND TELL US STANDARDS AND BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS, I'M GOING ILLUSTRATE MY POINTS BY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STAFF MEMOS FROM FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR UNTIL DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. THERE'S THREE BASIC PROBLEMS I'M GOING POINT OUT. ONE OMITTED INFORMATION. KEY INFORMATION IS OMITTED FROM THE STAFF MEMOS. FOR INSTANCE, THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS THREE TIMES THE DENSITY OF CURRENT ZONING. THREE TIMES. NOT 103% BUT 300%. THAT'S NOT BROUGHT OUT FRONT EARLY ON. ANOTHER KEY FACT OMITTED, THIS IS IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DISTRICT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. IF YOU READ THE STAFF MEMOS YOU CAN READ THAT AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE HEARD IT FROM MR. BROWN, NO ZONING REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW THREE STORIES HERE. YEAH, THE AR4.5 DOES THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND N THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IT REPEATEDLY SAYS IT SHOULD BE TWO STORIES. MAYBE TWO AND A HALF BUT TWO STORIES. THAT IS NOT BROUGHT OUT IN THE STAFF MEMOS. HOW DO WE EXPECT THE PUBLIC WHO DOESN'T READ THE DOCUMENTS LIKE US UP HERE HAVE TO, HOW DO WE EXPECT THE PUBLIC TO BE INFORMED AND EMPOWERED ABOUT WHAT STANDARDS ARE BEING USED IF IT'S NOT BROUGHT OUT IN THE STAFF MEMO AND IT IS NOT. THE PROBLEM IS PROOF TEXTING WHERE YOU PULL ONE SCRIPTURAL QUOTATION AND OVER INTERPRET IT AND SOMETHING ANALOGOUS HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND IN STAFF MEMOS. THERE'S A SINGULAR FIXATION ON HOW THE COMP PLAN CALLS FOR INCREASED HOUSING DENSITY IN WORTHINGTON. IT DOES DO THAT AND ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGES IT BUT OFTEN WITH MANY QUALIFICATIONS ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. ABOUT TWO STORIES. ABOUT THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY. ALL THESE THINGS ARE IGNORED IN THE STAFF MEMO SO IF YOU JUST READ THE STAFF MEMO YOU WOULD THINK THE COMP PLAN IS ONLY ABOUT INCREASING HOUSING DENSITY. THEN THE THIRD POINT WHICH I'M GOING MAKE QUICKLY IS WHAT I CALL SHIFTING RATIONALE ND I'LL SHOW IN EXAMPLE BUT WHERE THE STAFF MEMOS CHANGE IN SUBSTANCE3 FROM THE BEGINNING TO END IN SIGNIFICANT WAYS. WITH THAT SAID I'LL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. I KNOW I'VE TALKED A LONG TIME. THE FIRST ONE, YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE OUTSET AFTER A VERY SHORT INTRODUCTION ABOUT NCR, IT [02:15:02] IMMEDIATELY STARTS TALKING ABOUT THE PUD. NO REFERENCE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. NO REFERENCE TO THE EXISTING ZONING. IT IMMEDIATELY TAKES YOU IN THE PUD AND WHAT THAT DOES IS TRAINS THE MIND TO THINK THAT THE BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT APPROPRIATENESS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THEN IT'S A DONE DEAL. AND ALL E'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS BIKE RACK AND LIGHTING POLES AND SMALL DETAILS. KEY FACT LIKE DENSITY, THREE TIMES, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SETBACKS AND DEMOLITION OF TWO HISTORIC BUILDINGS, THAT'S HARDLY MENTIONED. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT AND HAVE BROUGHT FRONT AND CENTER IN MY JUDGMENT. THAT WAS THE FEBRUARY MEMO. THIS IS THE DECEMBER MEMO. AFTER QUESTIONS AND CRITICISM OF STAFF, STAFF INCORPORATED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND BROUGHT FORWARD A GRID SHOWING EXISTING ZONING AND A MAP BUT IN MY JUDGMENT THIS ACTUALLY ONLY SERVED TO FURTHER CONFUSE THE ISSUE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE AREAS DON'T REALLY GREEN MUCH AND WHO CAN MAKE COMPLEX CALCULATION DENSITY BY EYEBALLING IT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THREE STORIES IS OKAY WHICH SUGGESTS THAT IN FACT THE PROPOSED BUILDING COMPLIES WITH ALL OF OUR STANDARDS. AGAIN, NOWHERE DO WE BRING UP THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND COMP PLAN THAT REPEATEDLY CALLS FOR TWO STORY AND TWO AND A HALF STORY FIXTURES. AS WE SEE RIGHT HERE, DESIGN GUIDELINES, QUOTATIONS THERE ABOUT QUALIFYING THE AR4.5 ZONING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. THAT WAS NOT IN THE STAFF MEMO. THE SECOND PROBLEM, PROOF TEXTING. YOU'LL SEE AT THE BEGINNING THE ONLY THING MENTIONED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN IS RESIDENTIAL HOUSING DENSITY. AND IT DOES MEANS TARGETED HOUSING AND IF IT MEANS DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE QUESTION IS DOES IT DO THAT AND THE ANSWER IS IT DOES NOT MEET THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WHAT WOULD BUSINESS OUT THE SHORT PORTRAYAL, INFORMATION LIKE THIS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DESIGN GUIDELINES. IT TALKS ABOUT DISTRICT INTEGRITY AND ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO HOUSING WITHIN ONE OR TWO BLOCKS. IT HAS TO BE DONE SENSE DIFFICULT AND THE ONE EXAMPLE GIVEN IS NOT 135,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IT'S HOW ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR APARTMENTS. AND ONE IS SHIFTING RATIONALE IN THE DECEMBER MEMO I WAS GRATEFUL TO SEE THE ARB WILL NEED TO ISSUE OR DECIDE ON WHETHER TO ISSUE A SCERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. VERY IMPORTANT. AND THE APPROPRIATENESS DECIDED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ONE DOES THE PROPOSED BUILDING PRESERVE THE CARB -- CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE SECOND ONE IS DO THE PROPOSED STRUCTURES, ARE THEY AT VARIANCE WITH EXISTING STRUCTURES WITHIN THAT PORTION OF THE DISTRICT. VERY IMPORTANT. IF IT'S NOT, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT NO, THE SCERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SHOULD NOT AND WOULD NOT BE ISSUED. NOW, TO THOSE OF US LIKE MYSELF WHO FEEL THE SCALE OF THE PROPOSAL IS TOO MUCH AND WE LIKE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES, I VIEWED THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS A PLACE THE PROJECT COULD BE RECONSIDERED. SO I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THIS. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS HERE IS FROM THE FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR STAFF MEMO UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SECTION. YOU'LL NOTE HERE STAFF OBSERVES, THIS DID BACK IN FEBRUARY -- THIS IS BACK IN FEBRUARY, THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER TWO-STORY STRUCTURES IN OLD WORTHINGTON THE STRUCTURES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY THEY'RE OF A SMALLER SCALE. [02:20:01] THAT MEANS IT'S A VARIANCE AND THEREFORE THE ARB IS NOT GOING ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE. THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD READ THAT SO I WAS ENCOURAGED WHEN IN DECEMBER I FIRST SAW THE ARB WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE STAFF MEMO. BUT THEN FAST FORWARD TO THE DECEMBER MEMO, THIS IS THE DECEMBER JUST THREE MONTHS AGO MEMO TO THE ARB MPC. WHAT CHANGED? THE PROPOSED BUILDING DID NOT CHANGE. OUR CODE DID NOT CHANGE. WHAT CHANGED WAS THE LANGUAGE THE STAFF USED TO DESCRIBE THE PROJECT. NO LONGER WERE THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS A LOT SMALLER, MUCH SMALLER BUT JUST SMALLER AND CRITICALLY WHAT WAS DESIGNED AS BEING IN THE VICINITY WHICH IS WHAT THE ARB RULES ON, THAT WAS CHANGED. NO LONGER WAS THE VICINITY THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL HOMES. ALL OF A SUDDEN THE VICINITY WAS ENLARGED TO CAMPUS BUILDINGS S FAR AWAY AS ST. JOHN'S CROSS GRANVILLE. BY DOING THIS WE GIVE LICENSE TO ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THE BUILDING DIDN'T CHANGE. THE CODE DIDN'T CHANGE BUT THE LANGUAGE CHANGED. I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT AND I HOPE WE DON'T NEED THIS. I TELL YOU, IT IS KILLING US THAT OUR PROCESS OF EXAMINING DEVELOPMENT IS BEING RUN LIKE THIS. I DON'T LIKE SAYING THIS PUBLICLY BUT IF I DON'T SAY IT HERE, THEN IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE SAID AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE HEARD. SO MY FERVENT WISH IS IF YOU THINK THIS PROJECT IS OUTSTANDING AND IT SUPERCEDES OTHER VALUES AND WOULD STAND ON THE FACTS ON ITS OWN THEN SAY IT. LET'S GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE UP FRONT IN THE BEGINNING AND HAVE AN OPEN, FULL AND FAIR DEBATE IN OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF A STAFF MEMO DOCUMENT STEERING THE PROCESS WITH LIMITED INFORMATION, PROOF-TEXTING OUR TEXT AND CHANGING THE CRITERIA ALONG THE WAY. MY HOPE IS WE DO PAUSE AND WE WOULD GENERATE NEW VISUALS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD FAIRLY REPRESENT THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY. THIS COMES FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR A REVIEW OF THE PARK. IT'S A SIMPLE 3-D DEVELOPMENT VISUAL. AND THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF A PROJECT UNLESS YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF AERIAL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE BEFORE AND AFTER VISUALS LIKE THIS FOR THIS PROPOSAL ALONG WITH SOME KEY FACTS SHARED BROADLY WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN LET'S HOLD A FRANK CONVERSATION AND SEE WHETHER EVERYONE STILL SUPPORTS IT. MAYBE THEY WILL. MAYBE THE PROJECT WOULD GO THROUGH BUT WE DON'T KNOW. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I DO HONOR AND AFFIRM ALL OF YOU AND I HOPE YOU ACCORD ME THE 3 SAME RESPECT BUT REGARDLESS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: COUNCIL MEMBER D. ROBINSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBERS DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> R. BROWN POSSIBLY THE APPLICANT MAY BE THE RIGHT ANSWER, DID APPLICANT OR STAFF DISCUSS WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL PLAN OF WALKABILITY FOR THE AREA DURING CONSTRUCTION PHASE BECAUSE ONCE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OCCURS, 16 TO 18 MONTHS FOR THE PHASE THERE'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE WALKABILITY EXCEPT FOR ON THE STREET. >> AS I MENTIONED, THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS IS OUTLINED AND THE TEXT SAYS 18 MONTHS. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM UNDERGOING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND WIDENING THE SIDEWALKS ALONG HARTFORD AND STAFFORD TO FIVE FEET BUT DURING CONSTRUCTION PROCESS WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION HOW THEY PLAN TO HANDLE THE MOBILITY ISSUES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION ISSUE. >> AND THE FACT THE MIDDLE AND LIBRARY ARE HIGHLY WALKED WOULD [02:25:04] BE PPRECIATED ASSUMING THE CONSTRUCTION GOES FORWARD. SECOND QUESTION TO MY NEIGHBOR'S POINT, HE MENTIONED CAN WE GET SOME ADDRESSING OF THE SEWAGE ISSUES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL UP STREAM POTENTIAL POTENTIAL FOR SPEWAGE AND WASTE WATER. >> -- SEWAGE. >> YES, IT'S NOT IN FINAL ENGINEERING TO THE FINAL DETAILS ARE NOT WORKED OUT BUT IT'S FULLY FUNCTIONAL AND CAPABLE AND WILL BE DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY AT FINAL DESIGN PHASE. >> FOR CONTEXT, FOLKS IN THE ROOM, I ACTUALLY DON'T LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE STAFFORD PROPERTY BUT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER OF MORNING AND NORTH. SO NEXT TO SIX OR SEVEN HOUSES THAT ABUTT THE PROPERTY. I LIVE ON THE HILL THAT OVERLOOKS THE PROPERTY SO I HAVE A GOOD VISUAL BUT MORE OF A CONCERN IS SEWAGE BACKING UP IN MY BASEMENT. WONDERING HOW SPECIFICALLY THAT WILL IF YOU HAVE A TIME LINE ON THE INFORMATION GOING FORWARD. >> THE FUNCTION OF SEWAGE BACKING UP IN OUR BASEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE SEWER EVALUATION SURVEYS DONE IN THE PAST ON A MORE GLOBAL SCALE. IN ACTUALITY THEY ARE LIKELY TO SERVE THAT SITE BETTER THAN IT DOES TODAY. >> THIRD QUESTION AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY QUITE A BIT, WHAT ARE THE PRICE POINTS FOR THE AFFORDABLE UNITS. I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THEM SET IN STONE UT WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED PRICE POINTS, MR. BROWN, MR. LINDSEY OR THE APPLICANT. >> THE AFFORDABLE MARKETS WE REFERENDUM A STANDARD O THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM. IT'S THE LARGEST VEHICLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S IN OPERATION TODAY. AND SO THAT PROGRAM SETS A STANDARD OF AFFORDABILITY WHERE AN PARTMENT OR LIVING UNIT IS CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE IF IT'S THE HOUSEHOLD THAT EARNS NO MORE THAN 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME CAN AFFORD THE RENT AND UTILITIES AND COST OF LIVING IN3 THAT APARTMENT. IF YOU BOIL ALL THAT MATH DOWN IN FRANKLIN COUNTY IN 2018 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MAXIMUM RENT OF $285 A MONTH. FOR ONE-BEDROOM WE'RE LOOKING AT 600 SQUARE FEET. >> AND FOR THE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS BEING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE MARKET RATE? >> 1600 TO 1400 SQUARE FEET -- 600 TO 1400 SQUARE FEET WITH A MIX OF UNIT TYPES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> COMMENTS. BEFORE I SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES GIVE US QUITE A BIT OF AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS BUILT IS BUILT FOR THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES WE SET FORTH IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, REGARDING HOW WORTHINGTON AS FOUNDED AND JAMES KILLBORN BEING A DEVELOPER HE CAME HERE TO OHIO LOOKING TO START WORTHINGTON AND MANY OTHER TOWNS THROUGHOUT OHIO. HE WAS A DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO GIVE GOOD BONES AND THOUGHT THE BONES THAT HE SAW FOR DEVELOPMENT IN NEW ENGLAND WAS A GOOD STYLE TO HAVE HERE IN WORTHINGTON AND MANY OTHER PLACES IN OHIO. HE EVEN TRIED TO HAVE WORTHINGTON BECOME THE STATE CAPITAL. HIS VISION WAS TO CONSTANTLY DEVELOP AND HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT WAS EDUCATED. THEY BROUGHT A LIBRARY. THEY HAD A WOMEN'S SEMINARY HERE. THEY DEFINITELY WERE LOOKING FOR DIVERSITY AND EVOLUTIONISTS THAT WERE HERE AND ELSA GARDENER ONE OF THE PEOPLE AT THE FLYNN [02:30:07] LOOKED AT A SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE OVERLAID OUR SINGLE-USE ZONING THAT WE GOT A COMMUNITY THAT IS PRIMARILY STATIC. WE DON'T ALLOW FOR NATURAL EVOLUTION IN TODAY'S SOCIETY ANYMORE. WE DON'T HAVE THE MISSING MIDDLE. WE USED TO ALLOW COTTAGE HOMES ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WE HAD SOME HERE IN WRORTHINGTO THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND SOME IN NEW ENGLAND BUT NOT ALLOWED ANY MORE AND HAVE A FOURPLEX BY THE POST OFFICE THAT DOESN'T ALLOWED ANYMORE AND NEAR SELBY WE HAVE APARTMENTS ZONED R10 RESIDENTIAL AND IF THE APARTMENTS BURNED DOWN WE WOULDN'T HAVE DIVERSITY BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE USE ZONING. I THINK WE NEED TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS TEETH AND DOES ALLOW TO MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE THE ARCHITECTURE AND CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALLOWS FOR MORE DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE HOUSING. WE CAN DO THAT BY LOOSENING -- BY DEVELOPING NEW FORM-BASED ZONING CODES AND OTHER AREAS IN CENTRAL OHIO ARE GOING TOWARDS THIS AND OUR SINGLE-USE ZONING IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE WIN -- WITH NOT ALLOW PRACTICAL EVOLUTION OF OUR SOCIETY. IT'S VERY INTRUSIVE AND HAS ONLY REALLY BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY '70S, LATE '60S IN WORTHINGTON IN THE HISTORY OF MAN IT HASN'T BEEN HERE. I THINK BEING ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THIS WITH HAVING THESE PROTECTIONS WITH THE PUD IT IS MORE MASSIVE. THE SCALE IS BIGGER THAN THE SURROUNDING AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AND THEY'VE HELP FACILITATE SEVERAL MEETINGS BUT IT'S BEEN NCR REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY RESPONDING TO EVERYONE'S QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES. DOWNTOWN WORTHINGTON IS WALKABLE AND OTHER PLACES ARE SOMEWHAT WALKABLE. THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC. THE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY IS BUMPING INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND SAYING HI TO SOMEONE. IT'S NOT GETTING IN YOUR CAR AND HAVING A CRASH AND BEING UPSET IT'S GOING OUT AND MAKING SOCIAL INCLUSION POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU'RE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK YOU GET THAT WITHOUT HAVING A MIXED-USE HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE SINGLE HOUSING ZONING WE HAVE NOW. I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ZONING OVERALL FOR ALL WORTHINGTON AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO START. IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING IN OHIO MUNICIPAL LAW, THIS BODY, THE COUNCIL OCCUPIES BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL BRANCH. WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION [02:35:03] WHERE WE TAX THE CITIZENS. WE APPROPRIATE THAT TAX MONEY. WE SET BUDGETS. WE LOBBY OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO ENACT LAWS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO CITIES. WE PASS ORDINANCES FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS. AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO IS WE LONG-RANGE PLAN. WE SET PRIORITIES AND GOALS TO THE POINT WE ACTUALLY ADOPTED A VISION IN COMMITTEE. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A RETREAT. THE PRINCIPLE IS WHAT ARE OUR GOALS GOING TO BE FOR NEXT YEAR, OUR PRIORITIES AND DID WE ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES IN THE YEARS BEFORE. THAT'S OUR LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION. A LOT OF THAT IS OUR PERSONAL BELIEFS AND VALUES WHERE WE THINK WORTHINGTON OUGHT TO GO, OR WHAT WE THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS BELIEVE SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT FOR WORTHINGTON. A LOT OF THAT IS SUBJECTIVE. A LOT OF POLICY DRIVEN. OUR JUDICIAL FUNCTION IS WHAT WE ARE HERE TO CARRY OUT TONIGHT. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO JUDGE THE PROPRIETY FOR A ZONING CHANGE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK ABOUT THIS APPLICATION. WE ARE TO APPLY THE LAW AS THIS COUNCIL HAS ENACTED. AND WHERE DOES THAT LAW TAKE US? IT SHOULDN'T BE A SUBJECTIVE DETERMINATION. WE ARE JUDGES NOW. WE AREN'T LEGISLATORS. AND IT'S NOT A ROLE THAT WE ARE ALL THAT USED TO. I'M LUCKY. IT'S A ROLE I AM USED TO. AND AS I READ THE LAW, TO ME, IT LAYS OUT PRETTY WELL -- AND I WILL TRY TO DO THAT AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. BUT AGAIN, I HAVE THE MICROPHONE. I WILL TRY TO DO WHAT I CAN. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE GUIDED FIRST AND FOREMOST BY THE LAW. WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS NOT MEN. CHAPTER 11, 74. I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT A BRIEF HISTORY, THAT 11 P 4 CAME ABOUT IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF A CITIZEN INITIATIVE ON OLENTANGY ROAD. IT WAS THE NATURAL FEATURES THAT EXISTED BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE RIVER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE P.U.D. ORDINANCE THERE'S A PROVISION WHICH PROTECTS NATURAL FEATURES. PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT A GAS STATION AT THE CORNER OF 161 AND OLENTANGY ROAD. THAT'S THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT P.U.D. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE P.U.D. FIRST, YOU START WITH THE PURPOSE CLAUSE. 174.01. I ALWAYS LIKE PURPOSE CLAUSE. YOU DON'T GET THEM OFTEN IN STATE STATUTES. BUT IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE THINKING ABOUT WHEN THEY DRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE. AND THAT PURPOSE CLAUSE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT P.U.D.'S ARE DESIGNED TO PROMOTE FLEXIBILITY, VARIETY, QUALITY. ALLOW FOR MORE CREATIVE PLANNING AND DESIGN IMPLEMENTATION OF STANDARDS, GUIDELINES ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. WHEN YOU ARE CONCERNING A P.U.D., YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING. IT REPEATS SEVERAL TIMES "USE". IN MY MIND, AS I READ THIS STATUTE, IT PUTS USE AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER ELEVATION THAN IN OTHER STATUTES. USE COMES FIRST AND THEN YOU GO DOWN. IF YOU READ ON FURTHER, WE GET TO 1174-03D. IT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES THE DESIGN LINE GUIDELINES. IT SAYS IT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE GUIDELINES, I WILL PARAPHRASE. UNLESS THERE'S A LEGITIMATE REASON TO DEVIATE. SO WE START WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. IN THIS CASE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. WE STARTED WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. SO YOU ASK YOURSELF, DOES IT COMPLY? SORRY, I USUALLY DON'T USE NOTES. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET ALL THIS DOWN. WE GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL [02:40:04] REVIEW DISTRICT STANDARDS. AND THOSE ARE IN 1177. THAT STARTS OFF WITH THE NOW FAMOUS PHRASE, THE SECOND SENTENCE, RECOGNIZE AND PRESERVE, ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER O THIS COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PROVISION THERE. YOU ALSO MAINTAIN HIGH CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PROTECT AND PRESERVE PROPERTY AND PROMOTE THE STABILITY OF PROPERTY VALUES. SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO IT THAN JUST THE PHRASE "WE HAVE ALWAYS HEARD". BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PHRASE MEANS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN REALLY , I HATE TO SAY IT BUT A FAMOUS JURIST POTTER STEWART ON THE SUPREME COURT WHEN HE WAS PRESENTED WITH A PORNOGRAPHY CASE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I WILL KNOW WHEN I SEE IT. POTTER STEWART ALWAYS SAYS IF I HAVE ONE REGRET IN MY PRACTICE OF LAW, IT'S THAT I SAID THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ENFORCEABLE STANDARD AND IT ISN'T THE WAY THE LAW OUGHT TO BE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE STANDARDS TO DEFINE THE 11 ITEMS THAT FOLLOW. WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE, I ASK MYSELF, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE AE COMPLAINING ABOUT IN THIS PROPERTY, IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE FIRST ONE, IT'S TOO TALL. THAT IS THE FIRST STANDARD IN OUR REVIEW. THE STANDARD HERE I, YOU COMPLY WITH THE GUIDELINES UNLESS THERE'S REASONABLE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THE VARIANCES. WE HAVE AN R4.35 WHICH PERMITS THREE STORIES. I WOULD TAKE ISSUE WITH THE FACT THIS IS A STATUTE, ORDINANCE, THE LAW. ZONING. GUIDELINES ARE JUST THAT, GUIDELINES. WHENEVER TERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN LAW AND GUIDELINE, THE LAW CONTROLS AND WE ARE HERE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE LAW IS. ALL RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK HEIGHT IS AN ISSUE. IT'S TOO DENSE. YEAH, IT'S DENSE. I GIVE YOU THAT. IT ALSO THOUGH HAPPENS TO BE THE SINGLE MOST DENSE PARCEL IN WORTHINGTON ALREADY. SO THAT'S A VARIATION, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. MR. HODGE IN VARIANCE OF NOT A VARIANCE. WE WENT THROUGH THAT THE OTHER NIGHT. [CHUCKLES] I HAVE APOLOGIZE TO HIM ABOUT MY COMMENTS THE OTHER NIGHT BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE GRUFF. IT'S TOO LARGE. THAT'S THE OTHER COMPLAINT. YEAH. IT'S A BIG BUILDING. I GIVE YOU THAT. OKAY. THE LAST ONE, IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE TREE ORDINANCE PROVISION OF OUR P.U.D. YEP. I WILL CONCEDE THAT. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY A TRUE VARIANCE. NOT AT VARIANCE WIDTH. SO WE HAVE THREE, ALL RIGHT. NOW, AS I READ THESE, THE DENSITY, THAT'S NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARD, THAT'S A ZONING CONCEPT. -- ZONING, TRADITIONAL ZONING WHICH THE P.U.D. ALLOWS US TO DO. WE HAVE THE THREE VARIANCES AND THE LAW TELLS US, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE VARIANCES IF YOU HAVE A RATIONAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THE VARIANCES. UNDERSTANDING THAT USE IS TO BE GIVEN AN ELEVATED POSITION IN THIS INQUIRY BECAUSE IT'S REFERENCED SO MANY TIMES IN OUR P.U.D. STAT TEWD. -- STATUTE. THE OTHER THING SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED IS THE PRONOUNCEMENTS OF COUNCIL. AS I SAID BEFORE, PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION, WE SET PRIORITIES, WE SET POLICIES AND GOALS. THOSE ARE PRONOUNCEMENTS OF COUNCIL. FOR AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL, WE HVE HAD PRIORITIES THAT INCLUDED DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. AND THAT'S KIND OF MORPHED INTO SENIOR HOUSING. BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SPOKEN AS DIVERSITY OF HOUSING AND THAT DIDN'T JUST INCLUDE HOUSING. THAT WAS INCLUSION. WE WANTED DIFFERENT SOCIOECONOMICS, DIFFERENT RACES AND LIFESTYLES TO BE IN WORTHINGTON BECAUSE WE FELT IT GAVE US A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE. LATELY WE HAVE BEEN TALKING AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. AND THAT'S BEEN A TOP PRIORITY THAT COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED. WE JUST ENACTED AN AGE-FRIENDLY POLICY. SO WE HAVE MADE THAT A POLICY. WE HAVE ALSO TLKED ABOUT [02:45:03] PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND WALKABILITY. SO WE HAVE SET FOUR CONCRETE GOALS WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY APPLIED AND SET AS PRIORITIES. NOW IN THE BACKGROUND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN THE CHARM OF WORTHINGTON. WE NEVER SET THIS AS A PRIORITY AT A COUNCIL RETREAT BT WE SET THESE. IF WE EVER ACTUALLY ACT ON THESE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM ALL WE WANT TO AND DO LITTLE THINGS LIKE CHANGE THE LIGHT BULBS. BUT, DO OUR RETREATS, OUR POLICIES, DO OUR GOALS MEAN ANYTHING IF WE AREN'T WILLING TO ENACT THEM? WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CARRY THOSE INTO EFFECT. I THINK EVERYONE WILL CONCEDE THAT TE MOST IEFFICIENT WAY TO LIVE IS IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND I'M AT FAULT. I A AT FAULT. I LIKE MY SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND PLOT OF LAND. I LIKE MY BIRDS AND MY RACCOONS AND POSSUMS AND DEER. I BUTT UP TO AN ELEMENTARY AND IN A FEW YEARS, I MIGHT BE FIGHTING APARTMENTS THERE TOO. AND I MIGHT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT, IF THAT'S THE CASE. SO WE CANNOT CONTINUE, I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER BE LIKE MINNEAPOLIS OR PORTLAND WERE WE BAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. BUT IF WE ARE TRULY COMMITTED TO THIS GOAL, WE KEEP SAYING OF SUSTAINABILITY, WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. IF WE ARE TRULY COMMITTED TO DIVERSITY OF HOUSING, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IF WE ARE COMMITTED TO WALKABILITY, COULD THERE BE A MORE PERFECT SPOT FOR SENIOR HOUSING THAN AT THIS CORNER? YOU COULD WALK TO THE LIBRARY, THE GROCERY STORE, C.V.S. AND FARMERS' MARKET. IT'S A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE SENIOR CENTER. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO PUT IT ANY PLACE ELSE. I THINK THOSE, AND WHAT'S DRIVING THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING, I HEARD SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT CONGESTION IN TRAFFIC. WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING ARE TWO THINGS. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE I TRUST THAT N.C.R. IS NOT LYING TO ME WHEN THEY GIVE ME THEIR ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE AND TELLS ME THIS IS WHAT IT HAS TO BE. I TRUST THEM ON THIS ONE OKAY. BUT I'S THE PARKING. THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING IT THREE STORIES AND OUR OWN P.U.D. ORDINANCE, THE LAW, THAT REQUIRES WE HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT. AND WE ALWAYS WANTED TO GET PARKING OFF STAFFORD AND HARTFORD. THIS WILL LET US DO THAT. IT'S OUR OWN LAW THAT'S AS MUCH AS ANYTHING DRIVING THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. AND THEN IT'S OUR ANNOUNCED POLICIES OF AFFORDABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY THAT'S DRIVING THE RST OF IT. SO I DON'T LOOK AT THIS AS N.C.R. DRIVING THIS, I LOOK AT THAT AS US. WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SET THIS AND SAID IT WAS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT WE WANT. AND THE LAW SAYS THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER. I ALSO DON'T WANT THIS TO BREAK DOWN AND I HEARD IT, THAT THIS IS PRODEVELOPMENT AND ANTI DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THAT DICHOTOMY. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS TOWN IS ABOUT. WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PRODUCT AND RIGHT PROJECT AT THE RIGHT TIME. I CONCEDE IT'S BIG AND IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GET OVER IT. MR. JONES HAS DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB AND I THINK 15 YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL LOOK BACK AND SAY IT'S A HISTORICAL GEM, BECAUSE THE ONE IT'S REPLACING IS NOT. IT'S NOT WORTH SAVING. SO THIS HAS MY FULL SUPPORT AND WILL GET MY VOTE. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE TE LAW DICTATES IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY COMMENTS? LADIES FIRST. >> I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND CONSIDERABLE EFFORT THEY HAVE PUT TO GET THIS PROJECT WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. I FEEL FULLY INFORMED BY ALL THE INFORMATION PROVIDED THROUGH MEMOS AND ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WE HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR. AS WELL AS REVIEWING THE EXTENSIVE INFORMATION PROVIDED THROUGH THE M.P.C. MEETINGS. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CMMUNITY FOR PROVIDING THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS TONIGHT AND THROUGH THE PROCESS. [02:50:03] I KNOW SPEAKING BEFORE A GOVERNMENT BODY COULD BE INTIMIDATING BUT YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, YOU REALLY DID. AND CHURCH SERVICES FOR REACHING OUT AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING OLDER ADULTS IN THE COMMUNITY. I SEE THIS AS MULTIFACETED. FIRST OFF, ACCORDING TO THE 2020 HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT FROM THE OHIO HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY, OVER HALF A MLLION HOMES HAS A SINGLE PERSON 65 OR OVER. THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR MORE OPTIONS FOR US TO STAY IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WE AGE. WE HAVE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER BUT I FEEL I HAVE TO SAY IT TOO. I BELIEVE WORTHINGTON'S GREATEST STRENGTH IS A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND NOT SIMPLY THE LOOK AND FEEL OF IT BUT HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER. PEOPLE KOW THEIR NEIGHBORS, HELP EACH OTHER AND THEY ARE ENGAGED IN THEIR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE PLEDGED TO BE AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. MOST RECENTLY EVIDENCE TO OUR ADOPTION OF THE NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE. WE WANT THEM TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS AND BE PARTNERS IN MAKING WORTHINGTON A THRIVING COMMUNITY FOR ALL. MY FIRST THOUGHT WHEN LEARNING ABOUT THIS PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT WAS IN DECEMBER OF 2017 BEFORE I STARTED ON COUNCIL WAS ABOUT THE CURRENT RESIDENCE. MANY OF YOU KNOW I WORK FOR THE 12 AREA AENCIES ON AGING AND ADVOCATE FOR OLDER ADULTS. COMBATING AGEISM AND WORKING ON POLICIES FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO THRIVE AS WE ALL AGE AND REMAIN IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I HAVE A BUTTON THAT SAYS AGING IS SO COOL, EVERYBODY IS DOING IT. IT'S EVIDENT THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE CURRENT BUILDINGS. THEY ARE TINY, NOT FULLY A.D.A. COMPLIANT AND WILL SOON BE BEYOND COST EFFECTIVE REPAIR. HOWEVER MOVING EEN TEMPORARILY COULD HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON OLDER, MORE VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. I HAVE TALKED TO RESIDENTS AND COORDINATORS ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR RELOCATION AND I'M CONFIDENT THE STAFF AND TRANSITION STAFF ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE BEST SUPPORT FOR EVERY RESIDENT AND THEY HAVE DONE SO THUS FAR. IT'S UNFORTUNATE HAS TIME HAS PASSED THERE'S NOT BEEN CLARITY FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WHEN THEY SHOULD EXPECT TO LEAVE OR RETURN. N.C.R. ISN'T ONLY THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MANAGE IT. THERE WILL BE MORE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS AS PART OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL AGREEMENT. I'M ALSO ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT WITH THIS PROJECT WE WILL TAKE AN IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD PRIORITIZING THAT MEETS THE NEEDS, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO COME UP WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SOON. THAT CREATES AN AGREEMENT FOR COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE SHOULDN'T STOP WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WE CAN AND SHOULD EXPECT MORE. I CAN APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS A VALID CONCERN AND HAS BEEN RIGHTLY EXPRESSED AND WE TAKE THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. YOUR ADVOCACY HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE MOVING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, PRESENTING A BETTER PROJECT THAT ADDRESSES THE TARGETED HOUSING MARKET AND IS A BETTER FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. I DO WANT TO ECHO ONE COMMENT THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT REGARDING A.D.A. ACCESSIBILITY AND I WOULD ASK N.C.R. TO RECONSIDER THOSE FRONT PORCHES. I HOPE YOU TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT ANDEN ENSURE THE BUILDINGS ARE FULLY A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE TO *EFSH. THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION, AS YOU KNOW. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MYERS EXPRESSED HOW WE NEED TO EVALUATE THIS ISSUE VERY WELL. WHEN THERE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS. OUR ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY AS COUNCILMEMBERS IS TO EVALUATE WHETHER THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY WILL BE SERVED. AND IN THIS CASE WITH THE USE OF THE PROJECT. I CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT HOW MUCH PEOPLE TELL ME THEY WANT TO STAY IN THIS COMMUNITY BUT ALSO WANT OPTIONS FOR DOWN SIZING. WE CURRENTLY HAVE LIMITED OPTIONS. SO THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT [02:55:01] MUST CONTINUE. AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND ENCOURAGE MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO HOUSING. WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AS AN AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY WITH THE EXPLORATION OF MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, NOT JUST ONE BUILDING. AS COUNCILMEMBER DOROTHY HAS STATED, INCLUDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, MORE DUPLEXES, FOURPLEXES, HOME SHARING, THE NESTERLY PROJECT GOING ON IN CENTRAL OHIO, WHICH I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF OUR CURRENT CODE ALLOWS THAT. TO SUMMARIZE, FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO MYERS COMMENTS. THIS IS TOUGH, THAT'S WHY IT'S GOTTEN SO MUCH DELIBERATION IN THE LAST 12-24 MONTHS IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT. I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH TO BE CANDID. I THINK IT'S RATHER DENSE AND LARGE FOR THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT I THINK I ALSO YIELDS A LOT OF BENEFITS WE WILL ULTIMATELY GAIN FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE THEY WILL HAVE, TO TE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL BE CARVED OUT FOR 30 YEARS. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WITH THAT AGREEMENT, GETTING PARKING OFF THE STREET WITH ELEVATED AREA FOR THE PARKING GARAGE. SO I THINK THIS PROJECT DOES HAVE SOME ISSUES AND DENSITY IN SIZE. I THINK ULTIMATELY IS A NET POSITIVE FOR THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY. AS WE GO TO THE FUTURE AND LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT TONIGHT AND THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND CONSIDERATION. >> THANKS, EVERYONE FOR STAYING SO LONG. THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT'S LEAP YEAR, SO YOU GET THIS NIGHT BACK. I WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT MONEY IN ALL THIS. I FEEL THIS WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN CLOAKED IN AFFORDABILITY. MAYBE I'M WAY OFF BASE AND THERE ARE FINANCIAL PLANNERS IN THE BUILDING. HELP ME WITH THIS. CAME UP FIRST SENTENCE YOU SAID, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. I ALWAYS TAKE THAT AS SOCIOECONOMIC INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY AS WELL. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT DO NEARLY ENOUGH FOR THAT TYPE OF INCLUSION WE SIT UP HERE EVERY WEEK AND SAY WE WANT MORE INCLUSIVITY AND DIVERSITY. HOW DOES THIS PROJECT ACCOMPLISH THAT? THE NUMBERS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. $800 A MONTH FOR THE LW-INCOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I PAY $550 A MONTH FOR MY HOUSE, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 800 SQUARE FEET. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW $800 A MONTH FOR SOMEONE IN A LOW-INCOME BRACKET IS AFFORDABLE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE RETIREMENT, AND AGAIN, I'M A PROFESSIONAL IN FINANCIAL PLANNING, BUT IN THE RETIREMENT INDUSTRY, FORBES AND SOME OF THE LEADERS IN RETIREMENT SAY USE 15% OF YOUR INCOME FOR RENTAL PROPERTY IN YOUR RETIREMENT AGES. 15% IS QUITE A BIT. AND DOESN'T EQUATE TO $800. I STRUGGLE WITH THE MATH, BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABILITY ASPECT, I DON'T THINK, IS ALL THERE. ESPECIALLY WITH THE ONES THAT ARE PROTECTED WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT RESOLUTION. I KNOW IT WAS FLESHED OUT A LITTLE IN THE MEETINGS PREVIOUS TO THIS. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL RIGHT. COME AROUND TO BONNIE MICHAEL. I TOTALLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING MR. MYERS HAS SAID. I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT IT. I FEEL IT IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC. I SUPPORT WHAT >> PRO -- KOWALCYZ. THAT COUNCIL WAS COMPARED TO [03:00:06] THOMAS WORTHINGTON AND JAMES KILL BORN FOR TAKING A STRONG STANCE GOING FORWARD, SETTING UP WHAT IS NOW STAFFORD VILLAGE AS SENIOR HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY. SENIOR HOUSING HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME PRIORITY. DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL. THIS IS MY 25TH YEAR ON COUNCIL AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING DIVERSITY OF HOUSING AND SENIOR HOUSING, FOR JUST ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON BOARD. WE TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. THE POINT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT SUSTAINABILITY IS GOING TO BE BETTER WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH SPRAWL AD WE ARE ABLE TO BRING THINGS TOGETHER. PLUS THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS IMPORTANT. SENIOR CITIZEN, I HAVE HEARD THE CITIZEN CITIZEN TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE LIBRARY, THE GRISWOLD CENTER, THE GROCERY STORE, THE DRUGSTORE AND ALSO BEING ON A BUS LINE WHICH NOBODY HAS BROUGHT UP ARE ALL THINGS THAT MAKE THIS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR A SENIOR COMPLEX. ADAPT AND REDESIGN AROUND THE TREE. THEY HAVE GONE WAY OUT TO TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. WHEN YOU HAVE THE FACILITY YOU HAVE THERE NOW, SENIORS DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SEE ONE ANOTHER, THEY HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE. AND IT'S NOT EVEN VERY HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE. THIS NEW BUILDING WILL GIVE PEOPLE A QUALITY OF LIFE WHERE THEY CAN BE, WHEN WE HAVE SOME BAD WEATHER THEY COULD BE INDOORS OR IN THE EVENING THEY CAN GO TO A NEIGHBORS APARTMENT AND BE ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH SOMEBODY, TO HAVE THE SOCIAL ASPECT WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF AGING. WE HAVE THE AGE-FRIENDLY INITIATIVE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT INCLUSIVENESS. I JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS IS THE RIGHT PROJECT IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. AT THIS POINT IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> WITH THAT, I WOULD CALL THE QUESTION. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ORDINANCE 72020 HAS PASSED. NOW MOVING ONTO LEGISLATION TO [7.A. Resolution No. 09-2020 Stafford Village - Affordable Housing Agreement] BE INTRODUCED. RESOLUTION NUMBER 92020 TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENTS CONCERNING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING FOR STAFFORD VILLAGE REDEVELOPMENT. MR. SMITH, ARE YOU OKAY? INTRODUCED BY MR. SMITH. MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MR. MYERS, SECOND BY MS. DOROTHY. MR. GREESON. >> PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CONSIDER DEVELOPMENTS, THERE ARE PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE WHAT WE MAY CALL THE LAND USE TEXT. INEVITABLY THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE ON OTHER PROJECT WES MIGHT DEAL WITH AN AGREEMENT LIKE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD BE THE MORE COMMON TERM. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DEAL WITH BY SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL CHURCH RESIDENCES AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR WORK WITH MS. LNDSEY AS WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. WE STRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT WERE THE BEST FORM FOR TRYING TO ENSURE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PIECE OF IT. BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT ETHIC, IF YOU WILL, IN THIS DISCUSSION. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A TREE FEE REDUCTION, WHICH WE THOUGHT, WE ULTIMATELY THOUGHT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE IN AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED INTO ZONING TEXT. AND THEN LASTLY WE WANTED TO PRESERVE SOME POTENTIAL COLLABORATION RELATED TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING WHICH WE COULD SPEAK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL LATER. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. LINDSEY, I KNOW HAS WRITTEN YOU ON THIS SUBJECT. AND HE COULD GIVE THE DETAILS ABOUT WHY THIS AGREEMENT TOOK THE FORM THAT IT DID AND WHAT IT ACCOMPLISHES. >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON. COUNCIL PRESIDENT MICHAELS, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I BELIEVE IT WAS LST MAY OR THEREABOUTS WHEN THIS PROJECT [03:05:04] WAS IN ITS EARLY DISCUSSION. THE QUESTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND A GUARANTY OF THOSE UNITS BECAME PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE AT ONE OF THOSE EARLY MEETINGS PERHAPS BY REPRESENTATION BY N.C.R. AS FAR AS THEIR COMMITMENT TO DO SO, AS THEY WERE EXPLAINING THE PROJECT AT THE M.P.C. LEVEL. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS AT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING THAT VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE M.P.C. HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT'S ENFORCEABILITY. HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WOULD HAPPEN. I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HVING CONVERSATION COMMUNICATION WTH BOTH COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCYZ. FROM MAY FORWARD, IT WAS PERCOLATING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. OKAY, IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO GUARANTY THAT AFFORDABILITY, HOW DO WE DO IT? AS THE PROJECT SORT OF WENT INTO THE PERIOD OF FURTHER EXPLORATION, BY N.C.R. AND PRIOR TO THE DECEMBER SUBMITTAL, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT. DID SOME RESEARCH TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ENFORCEABILITY OF VARIOUS MEANS. AT OR ABOUT THAT PERIOD OF TIME, N.C.R., THROUGH THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL, MR. HODGE PROPOSED A WELL AS AARON UNDERHILL AND MR. TABBOT TALKED ABOUT TO VOLUNTARILY RESTRICT HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD BE UTILIZED AND GUARANTY THE 34 UNITS FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS, AS A DECLARATION, MY UNDERSTANDING THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WTH THEM AND BY MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRACTICE IN DIFFERENT AREAS, THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE ELSEWHERE. BUT I RAISED WITH THEM THAT WHILE MAYBE IT'S BEEN DONE DO YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE OF THAT BEING ENFORCED BY A CITY? IF TEN YEARS FROM NOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WOULD WE KNOW THIS WAS ENFORCEABLE? AND THROUGH OUR SORT OF COLLECTIVE RESEARCH, BOTH SOME THEY DID, AND SOME THAT I DID, WE EVOLVED TO THE NOTION OF AN AGREEMENT. AND MY VIEW OF THIS WAS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS AN ENFORCEABLE AGREEMENT, SOMEWHAT AT THE DIRECTION OF AT LEAST TWO OF MY BOSSES TO THE RIGHT. I HAVE MY BOSS TO THE LEFT, BUT SEVEN OF YOU TO MY RIGHT. THAT IF, IN FACT, IT WENT FORWARD THERE WAS A DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS SOME ENFORCEABILITY TO THAT PROMISE THEY HAVE MADE. TO MAINTAIN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. THE BEST METHOD THAT I FELT WE COULD COME UP WITH WAS A CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT. ONE WHERE THEY PROMISED TO DO IT AND WE WERE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT PROMISE AND THEREFORE BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT CONTRACT. ONE ASPECT OF CONTRACT, BASIC ASPECT OF EVERY CONTRACT HAS TO HAVE CONSIDERATION ON BOTH SIDES. BOTH PARTIES HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT. IF I JUST POMISE TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY PROMISE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEN YOU RUN THE RISK THAT IT'S A COURT LATER, MIGHT NOT BE AN ENFORCEABLE CONTRACT. THAT'S IN LARGE PART WHERE WE HAVE THE TREE FEE PLANTED INTO THIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE TREE FEE IS, IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO AND THE STAFF, THE REQUEST BY N.C.R. WAS TO MAKE IT 150 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WILSON BRIDGE ROAD HAS. CERTAINLY, FOR MY PURPOSES, AND YOU HEAR ME SAY, I USUALLY DON'T CARE THE OUTCOME. I DON'T CARE IF YOU MAKE IT 150, 200, OR 350, AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME MONETARY ASPECT. IT WOULD SERVE MY PURPOSES OF LEGAL CONSIDERATION TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT MORE ENFORCEABLE. THAT'S WHY THAT IS THERE. ON THE GRANBY ONE, VARIANCE AS TO THE PER CALIBER INCH FEE, [03:10:10] BUT WAS TO THE TOTAL FEE IT'S MY VIEW, LOOKING AT THIS MORE CLOSELY, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR NUMBER, IT REALLY ISN'T A ZONING LAND USE ISSUE. IT'S A DECISION BY COUNCIL TO APPROPRIATE BUDGETING FINANCE AND OUGHT TO BE DONE IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT. GOING FORWARD IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE, I KNOW THAT MR. BROWN AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE NEED TO AT LEAST BRING TO COUNCIL THE POSSIBILITY TO MAKE THESE CONSISTENT. MAKE THE 450, 150 FOR ALL PURPOSES. BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES RIGHT NOW IT SERVES AS A VEHICLE TO GET CONSIDERATION. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT THERE. I WILL GIVE CREDIT TO MR. GREESON, CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. HE DID BRING UP THE ASPECT OF WOULD WE AT SOME POINT WANT TO TIF THIS PROPERTY. WOULDN'T JUST GIVEN BACK TO N.C.R. TO PUT A ROOF ON THE BUILDING. IT COULD BE DONE ON SOME OF OR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE A STRONG INCENTIVE TO HAVE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WILL GENERATE INCOME FOR THE CITY FROM AN INCOME STANDPOINT. THOSE PROPERTY TAXES COULD BE USED FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS. THE HOLIDAY INN SITE, STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING INTERSECTIONS THAT WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. MOST LIKELY WOULD BE SIDEWALK AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF STAFFORD VILLAGE BUT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT AS WELL. HAVING SID THAT, THAT'S ONLY AN OBSERVATION, BUT IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH AND IF CITY COUNCIL WERE TO LOOK TO ACTUALLY PASS SUCH AN ORDINANCE, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ORDINANCE FOR THIS PROPERTY, THEY HAVE AGREED TO COOPERATE WITH THE CITY IN THAT ENDEAVOR. THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY COMPONENTS OF IT. IT WAS INTENTIONALLY PLACED ON YOUR AGENDA WHERE IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS MY VIEW THAT THE DECISION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF WAS THE FIRST DECISION THAT COUNCIL NEEDED TO COME TO AND THEN IF YOU HAD DEFEATED THE P.U.D. ZONING, THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU SIMPLY WITHDRAW THIS FROM IT. IF YOU TABLED IT, BECAUSE YOU WANTED MORE DISCUSSION I WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED YOU TABLING THIS, NOW HAVING PASSED THE P.U.D. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THIS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO USE. I HAVE SPOKE FAR TOO LONG. I APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC WHO STAYED HERE LONG TONIGHT. I GUESS I LISTENED A LONG TIME AND FELT I WANTED MY TWO CENTS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS ON THIS? THOUGHTS? MR. MYERS? >> WHERE DID WE EVER COME UP WITH $450? THAT HAS ALWAYS SEEMED TO ME TO BE OUT OF LINE. >> IT WAS ADOPTED THE YEAR BEFORE I GOT HERE BUT AT LEAST TALKING WITH LINDA BATAR IN OUR OFFICE, IT WAS A STARTING POINT. THE CONVERSATION WE HAD, WE WERE DOING GRANBY PLACES A NEGOTIATING TOOL TO GET A BETTER PROJECT AND A BETTER PRODUCT. I THINK THAT'S WHY WHEN IT CAME BEFORE YOU TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THAT YOU AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, WHERE IS THIS 450 COMING FROM. WHAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHAT DO WE WANT THE PURPOSE TO BE FOR? THAT'S WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO DO THE CALL AROUND TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING US. A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE A TREE FEE BUT DID RANGE FROM THE ONES THAT DID FROM $100 TO $300. I THINK WESTER VILLE WAS -- >> I REMEMBER PASSAGE OF -- I HELPED DRAFT THE WESTERVILLE TREE ORDINANCE AND I THINK IT WAS $25 AT THE TIME. [03:15:07] DIFFERENTLY. I DON'T WANT AN AMOUNT SO HIGH THAT IT'S OBVIOUS WE ARE JUST USING THIS AS A BARGAINING CHIP. THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT TREE ORDINANCE WAS MEANT TO DO. IT WAS MEANT TO PRESERVE TREES AND PUNISH THOSE WHO DON'T. SO I THINK A MUCH MORE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF $150 IS APPROPRIATE. THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE GOALS. WE HAVEN'T ENFORCED THE 450 YET, HAVE WE? >> YES, SIR. IT'S KIND OF A MEANINGLESS NUMBER. >> THE P.U.D.'S WE HAD WITH THE MASONIC LDGE DEVELOPMENT. THEY WERE AT A WASH WHEN WE DID THE TREES BEING REPLACED WITH WHAT WAS ADDED. WHEN IT WENT BEFORE FRESH TME, WHEN WE DID THAT P.U.D., TEY PAID THE FEE AT THE $450. IT REALLY GOT BROUGHT UP WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THE GUIDELINES FOR WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND ULTIMATELY FOR GRANBY PLACE A THAT CAME FORWARD. >> BOTTOM LINE IS I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE $150. >> FOR THIS RESOLUTION. >> FOR THIS RESOLUTION, FOR GOING FORWARD, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH $150. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OTHER THOUGHTS? AT THIS POINT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? MS. ROBINSON? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED? RESOLUTION 92020 HAS PASSED. [7.B. Resolution No. 10-2020 Community Relations Commission Appointments] RESOLUTION 10 2020, APPROVING COMMUNITY RELATIONS APPROVEMENTS. MATT CAIN AND RAMIREZ TO BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION FOR EXPIRED TERMS ENDING MAY 31, 2020. REAPPOINTED FROM JUNE 1ST, 2020 AND EXPIRING MAY 31ST, 2023. MOVED BY MS. DOROTHY, SECONDED BY ROBINSON. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ANY REPORTS FROM CITY OFFICIALS? [8. Reports of City Officials] >> PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. JUST A COUPLE THINGS, ALSO DEVELOPMENT RELATED, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: TANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. >> WE REPORTED TO YOU. FIRST IS, I BELIEVE MR. BROWN, WE RECEIVED AREZONING APPLICATION FROM OHIO HEALTH FOR THE CORNER OF LARAMER AND HIGH STREET FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AS WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING. SO THAT PROCESS WILL BEGIN, I BELIEVE TAT WAS RECEIVED ON FRIDAY. AM I CORRECT? AND THE SECOND THING IS IN OUR DILIGENT MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH TIME TONIGHT AND RECENT MONTHS, ALSO APPROVED LAST WEEK AND MR. MYERS I MAY BE STEALING YOUR THUNDER. THE REVISIONS TO THE HOLIDAY INN SITE REDEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT, IF YOU HAVE BEEN CONSUMED WITH READING ALL OF YOUR STAFFORD VILLAGE STUFF AND HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE TRUE HOTEL AND HOLIDAY INN REDEVELOPMENT SITE, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT AT THIS POINT. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK TONIGHT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. THRESS? MR. LINDSEY? [9. Reports of Council Members] >> BRIEFLY, PLEASE. AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE PAPER, THE O.A.P.O.A., I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THAT WORD, CHIEF WARE AND I ATTENDED A MEETING THAT THE STATE HOSTED REGARDING THE SETTLEMENT AND THE POSSIBLE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS. A SPLIT OF THOSE FUNDS FOR MULTIPLE LAWSUITS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST THE MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS AND PHARMACIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT, IN THE LITIGATION THAT'S PENDING. THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ACTUALLY. AND HOPING TO ARRIVE AT, FOR OHIO'S BENEFIT, A UNIFIED POSITION WHERE ALL OF THE -- SOME CITIES AND COUNTIES FILED THEIR OWN LAWSUITS. OTHERS HAVE BEEN PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE. THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGE FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO HAPPENED TO END UP AS THE MULTI-DISTRICT LITIGATION JUDGE. ALL OF THE CASES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WERE CONSOLIDATED INTO OHIO. SOME HAVE BEEN REMANDED BACK TO [03:20:05] THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT FOR TRIAL PURPOSES. CAYUGA COUNTY. AS A RESULT THERE'S SOME BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO LONG TERM PROBABLY BE A PART OF THIS. THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BASED ON THAT MEETING AND CHIEF WARE, OF COURSE, HAS EXTENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHALLENGES THIS ISSUE BASED ON HIS TIME WITH PORT SMITH AND CERTAINLY AN ASSET TO THE CITY, AND MYSELF. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. I ANTICIPATE SOMETIME IN MARCH, WE WILL HVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT. BUT THAT AGREEMENT STILL IN ITS DRAFTING STAGES, AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY, LOOKS LIKE A WORTHWHILE THING FOR US TO DO. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE AND WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT, IN CASE YOU READ THE PAPER. IF SETTLEMENTS GENERATED PER $1 BILLION OF THE SETTLEMENTS, THE NUMBER FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON WAS AT THE, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT CHIEF WARE. I DIDN'T WRITE THE NUMBER DOWN FOR TONIGHT. IN THE $600,000-$700,000 RANGE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR THE NOD OF APPROVAL THERE. IT IS SOME SIGNIFICANT MONEY. ONE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT THAT DID NOT GO FORWARD RECENTLY, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE PPER AS WELL WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE $18 MILLION OVER 18-YEAR PERIOD. $18 BILLION. I SAID THE WRONG ILLION THERE. THAT WOULD B ROUGHLY THAT $600,000-$700,000 PER YEAR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. IT IS SIGNIFICANT MONEY. THE COST TO COMMUNITIES THOUGH IS VERY LARGE AS CHIEF WARE -- MORE ON THAT TO COME. I PROBABLY TALKED TOO LONG TONIGHT ON. SO NOTHING FURTHER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHING ELSE, MR. GREESON, ON YOUR SIDE? MR. ROBINSON? >> NOTHING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. DOROTHY? >> I HAD A CEMETERY BOARD MEETING THIS EVENING. THIS AFTERNOON. SOMETIME TODAY. I WAS SITTING IN A DIFFERENT MEETING AND WE DID TALK ABOUT -- CEMETERY AND GARDINER PROPERTY AND FORWARD A CONTRACT TO REPAIR THE ROOF WITH SOME HISTORICAL DETAILS. AS MANY AS WE COULD, THAT EVERYTHING WOUAS COST EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. WE ARE MOVING FORWARD MAKING THAT A USABLE OFFICE SPACE. ALSO LOOKING INTO WHAT USE THE CEMETERY WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING CREMATED AND NOT EVEN BURYING EACH OTHER, IF THEY GO IN DIFFERENT PLACES. LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES HAPPENING WITH THE CEMETERY. ALSO THE CIRCLE OTTER IS GETTING REBUILT AND WILL BE DONE BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY. LOTS OF STUFF GOING ON AT THE CEMETERIS. COME CHECK THEM OUT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT. ACTUALLY WAS HOPING, SINCE WE HAVE ASSISTANT CHIEF ZAMBITO IN OUR COUNCIL MEETING, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO A PARAMEDICINE PROGRAM WITH PEOPLE, SOCIAL SERVICES FOLLOWING UP WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE REQUESTED E.M.S. RUNS. I THINK YOU HELPED OUT WITH THAT PROGRAM UP IN ARLINGTON. COLUMBUS AND WESTERVILLE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN WORTHINGTON. >> IT'S ACTING CHIEF. >> ACTING CHIEF. EXCELLENT. I'M SORRY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MYERS? >> I HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN THE FACT AS I LOOK OUT HERE A M.P.C. AND THE CLOCK AND IT'S 11:00, DOESN'T IT FEEL LIKE HOME, FOLKS? IT IS EARLY. WE STILL GOT TIME TO GO GET COFFEE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. MS. KOWALCZYK? >> I WOULD ECHO COUNCILMEMBER DOROTHY'S IDEA OF LOOKING AT A PARAMEDICINE PROGRAM. I THINK IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION AND COMPLEMENT OUR AGE FRIENDLY IDEAS. >> MR. BOOKER? >> NOTHING FURTHER, THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MYERS MOVES WE ADJOURN. SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.