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[A. Call to Order - 7:00 pm]

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>> WII ARE READY TO GO AND ARE LIVE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER AND WELCOME EVERYOBODY TO THE THURSDAY AUGUST 6, 2020, MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. PLEASE.HAVE THE ROLL CALL, - AND THEN -- WELL, I'LL EXPLAIN THIS FIRST.

>> OKAY. DO YOU WANT ROLL CALL NOW?

>> MR. CULTOULTERCOULTER? >> M. COULTER: HERE.

>> B. SEITZ: HERE. >> D. FALCOSKI:>> CAN YOU UNMUTE? I SEE YOU'RE HERE.

IT'S OKAY. BUT YOU MAY WANT TO UNMUTE FOR

FUTURE STUFF. >> C. CRANE: HERE.

AGAINST PUBLIC GALT -- DERS - GATHERINGS WE'VE MOVED TO A VIRTUAL PLATFORM. WE'RE USING THE MICROSOFT TEAMS FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEM MEMBERS. CITY STAFF, APPLICANTS TO CONNECT INTO THE MEETING. ON THIS FLAT FORM YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE FOUR TO NINE PEOPLE AT A TIME ON THE SCREEN.

TYPICALLY THE LAST PEOPLE TO SPEAK.

WE ARE CONNECTING OUR VIRTUAL MEETING TO OUR LIVE STREAM TECHNOLOGY SO THE PUBLIC CAN OBSERVE.

THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS IS MADE UP OF FIVE MEMBERS AND A THREE MEMBER POSITIVE VOTE IS USED FOR PASSENGER OF ANY ITEM.

PRESENT ARE MR. BROWN AND M MS. BATRA.

I ASK THAT THE ITEMS BE EXP EXPLAINED BY STAFF AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO BE VIRTUALLY SWORN IN AND RESENT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ANSWER QUE QUESTIONS.

I WILL THEN ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND THE APPL APPLICANTS. AND I WILL THEN GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR APPLI APPLICATION.

PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING.

AND YOU WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN BY CITY STAFF.

FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION.

YOU MAY ASK THE BOARD TO TABLE YOUR APPLICATION AT ANY TIME DURING THE PROCESS. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF WAYS FOR -- OF OPTIONS FOR WAYS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS.

FIRST, YOU CAN E-MAIL YOUR COMMENTS TO CITY STAFF@ STAFF@PLANNING STAFF@PLANNING@WORTHINGTON.ORG.

ANOTHER OPTION IS TO CALL USING YOUR TELEPHONE.

1-567-249-0063. WHEN YOU CALL YOU WILL NEED THE CONFERENCE ID OF 456-775-89 POUND SIGN.

YOU WILL BE MUTED UPON ENTRY AND YOU WILL NEED TO HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS AND THE PHONE NUMBER WITH THE CONFERENCE PAGE WHERE YOU'RE ACCESSING THE LIVE STREAM OF THE MEETING AND THEY WILL BE HOWN ON THE SC SCREEN. YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THERE'S A 40 SECOND DELAY OF THE SHLIVE STREAM.

THERE WILL BE TIMES DURING THE COMMENTS PORTION WE WILL PAUSE TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE IVE STREAM TO CATCH UP FOR ANY PHONE CALLS THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN. WE'VE HAD THE ROLL CALL.

OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS WE HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME. AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL NEED TO THE -- ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE TO MR. GEOZI.

>> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. WE CAN SEE IT.

GOOD. I SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE

STATE OF OHIO. >> I SWEAR OR I WILL AFFIRM --

AND OF THE STATE OF OHIO. >> AND WILL OBEY THE LAWS THERE

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OF. >> AND WILL OBEY THE LAWS TH

THEREOF. >> AND THATLY IN ALL RESPRRESPE

OBSERVE THE -- >> AND I THATLY IN ALL RESPECTS OBSERVE THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER OF THIS MUNICIPALITY.

SENT >> LAND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DU DUTIES.

>> AND WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES.

>> AS A MEMBER OF THE WORTHINGTON BOARD OF ZONING APP APPEALS.

>> UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

>> UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. >> MS. CRANE WE DO AT THIS TIME, IT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I THINK AFTER OUR CONVERSATION THIS MORNING SINCE OUR PREVIOUS BOARD MEMBER WAS THE SECRETARY TO THE BOARD THAT WE NEED TO ELECTRIC A NEW -- ELECT A NEW SECRETARY FOR THE BOARD OF Z ZONING APPEALS.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS FOR NOMIN

NOMINATIONS. >> I NOMINATE BRYAN -- BRIAN

SEITZ. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> THIS IS GARRETT I'LL SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

>> C. CRANE: MOVED AND SECONDED THAT MR. SEITZ BE NAMED OF THE SECRETARY. THIS IS ALL RIGHT WITH MR.

MR. SEITZ. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED?

>> AND WELCOME ABOARD. >> EVERYBODY, YOU ARE FROZEN N

[B.1. Variance – Setback from Alley – Fence – 5709 Foster Ave. (Patricia Hosking) BZA 27-2020]

MY SCREEN SO. IT WAS VERY HELPFUL -- APPROXIIT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU SAY WHO IS SPEAKING SOMETIMES IF I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR VOICE.

THAT WAS MR. GOZI. >> CORRECT.

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>> I COULD SEE THE POWER POINT. >> OKAY.

>> LET'S -- >> DO YOU SEE THE SCREEN NOW.

IT SHOULD HAVE THE MAP FOR 5709 FOSTER AVENUE.

>> NO I DON'T. >> OKAY.

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PICTURES OF BOARD MEMBERS AND FOUR CRCLES.

>> YOU WERE SEEING VIDEO FEED? >> I WAS SEEING THE VIDEOS OF THEM BUT THEY WERE KIND OF FROZEN.

SO IT WAS MORE LIKE A STILL PICTURE.

>> OKAY. >> THEN THEY KIND OF MOVED E

EVENTUALLY. >> IN THE MENU THE MORE ACTION, TRY CLICKING THAT AND THE BOTTOM ONE TURN OUTFF INCOMING VIDEO.

TRY CYCLING THAT AND TURNING IT OFF AND BACK ON.

>> SHOULD THE CAMERA SHOULD THE CAMERA HAVE A SLASH?

>> THAT WOULD BE YOUR CAMERA. IF IT HAS A SLASH THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT TRANSMITTING VIDEO NOW.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE >> IT DOES NOT HAVE A SLASH NOW.

DO YOU WANT A SLASH THROUGH IT>> JUST CLICK ON IT.

>> I WANT ABLE TO SEE ANY MAPS OR WHAT YOU WERE POSTING.

RIGHT NOW I SEE THE THUMBNAILS. >> HOW ABOUT YOU, GARRET?

>> I SEE PICTURES BUT EVERYONE IS FROZEN.

I HAVE PERFECT AUDIO. >> YEAH.

MY AUDIO IS GREAT. >> ON OUR END YOU ALL ARE PERFECT. I WILL TRY ONE MORE TIME.

>> OKAY. I JUST HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE UP.

>> HE JUST SHARED IT AGAIN. YOU SHOULD SEE AN OVER VIEW OR

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SATELLITE VIEW. >> GUESS BRIAN AND MIKEL YOU SEE

THE AERIAL PHOTO? >> YEAH I SEE EVERYTHING.

>> OKAY. >> YEAH I SEE IT.

>> HANG TILGHT A, I'M GOING TO SOMETHING ON MY END.

LY CYCLE VIDEO AND SEE IF I CAN PICK IT UP.

>> I CAN DO THE PRESENTATION BY INTERPRETIVE DANCE IF YOU WOULD

LIKE. >> NO.

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO CLOSE OUT OF TEAMS AND TRY TO COME BACK IN

AGAIN? >> AND WE'LL SEE IF IT CONNECT

YOUS BACK UP. >> YES.

>> DUEL THAT. -- I'LL DO PA >> THANKS.

STANDBY ] >> ARE WE FROZEN AT ALL ON YOUR SC SCREEN?

>> HOPEFULLY YOU ALL SEE 5709 FOSTER THE AERIAL VIDEO.

>> DO I SEE IT. >> HOW ABOUT YOU GARRET.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE BLAMING BRIAN SEITZ FOR

THIS. >> NEWLY ELECTED SECRETARY.

>> SO WE'LL JUMP BACK INTO THIS ONE.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A REQUEST TO REPLACE AN EXISTING CHAIN LINK.

AS YOU KNOW WITH IT BACKING UP TO GRAVEL ALLEY SINCE A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY FENCIES ARE REQUIRD TO HAVE A SETBACK.

THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE WITH WOOD PICKET FENCE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PLAT FOR COLONIAL HILLS.

>> LOOKING THROUGH UX SEE THE PICTURES OF THE EXISTING ALLEY AND THE EXISTING FENCE. THE APPLICANT HAS AN EXISTING CURB SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND CAN ACCESS THE ALLEY THROUGH THE GARAGE.

THIS IS WHERE THE APPLICANT CAN ACCESS THE ALLEY WAY AGAINST -- 16 FAITH EXISTING ALLEY WAY. AGAIN, THE COMPACT LOCATION -- EXACT LOCATION OF THIS, WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE XISTING GARAGE, FROM THIS POINT TOWARDS THE ALLEY WAY IS THE PORTION THAT ENCROACHES INTO THE SETBACK AREA.

SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, IS FOR A REDUCTION FROM

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THE 30 FEET. STAFF DID NOT FEEL THERE WOULD BE ANY ESSENTIAL CHARACTER CHANGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHING PROPERTY HAVE FENCES AND ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THE FENCE WOULD ENCROACH IN THE SIDE SETBACK.

ACCESSES FOUR OR FIVE HOMES IN THE AREA.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

>> DO WE HAVE -- HOW MANY AREAS DO WE HAVE? DO WE HAVE MANY AREAS LIKE THIS IN WORTHINGTON WHERE WE HAVE ALLEY ACCESS THAT IS ACTUALLY USED QUITE A LOT.

BECAUSE IT'S, I MEAN IT'S -- IT SEEMS PRETTY UNIQUE FOR THE PROP PROPERTIES.

>> WE HAVE MORE THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT IN THE CITY.

A LOT OF THE ALLEY WAYS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE RECENT MONTHS HAVE BEEN UNIMPROVED WHERE THEY'VE BEEN GRASS.

THEY'VE NOT BEEN ACCESSIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

THESE ARE FUNCTIONALAL. I WILLS -- ALLEYS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. THEY POP UP MORE THAN YOU WOULD

THINK THEY WOULD. >> IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE FENCES COMING UP TO THE ALLEY? ANY PROBLEMS WITH VISIBILITY OR MANEUVER ABILITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?

>> NO MA'AM. WITH THIS ONE YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES WITH ACCESS TO THE ALLEY WAY.

THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH HERE TO THE 215 USES THIS AS THE PRIMARY ACCESS -- ACCESS TO THE HOUSE. IT WAS 5695 FOSTER TENDS HOUSE TO THE NORTH --

>>>> THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THIS PHOTOS TOE ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S THE BACK TRIANGLE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT ENCROACHES

INTO THAT ET BACK. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? >> C. CRANE: MR. BROWN, WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?

>> SURE. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ONLINE HOPE HOPEFULLY?

>> YES. I'M HERE.

>> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE

TRUTH BODY, IF SO, SAY I DO? >> YES, I DO.

>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVING IN TO ADD TO MR. BROWN'S PRESENTATION? DID SHE PROVIDE HER NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> NO I CAN DO THAT.

MY NAME IS PA SHAH AT 5709 FOSTER AVENUE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

>> C. CRANE: OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> NO.

>> NONE. >> C. CRANE: AT THIS POINT WE WILL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE, AGAIN, THE TWO OPTIONS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN E-MAIL OR YOU CAN CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. AND WE WILL -- HAVE E RECEIVED, YET, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER VIA E-MAIL OR

TELEPHONE? >> NO, MA'AM.

WE HAVE NOT. >> C. CRANE: AT THIS POINT WE'LL PAUSE FOR -- TO ALLOW COMMENTS TO COME IN.

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>> C. CRANE: HAVE WE RESNIFFED COMMENTS DURING -- RECEIVED ANY

COMMENTS DURING HIS TIME? >> WE HAVE NOT.

>> C. CRANE: THANK YOU. YOU WOULD NOW LIKE TO CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AS TO WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION

FOR BZA27-2020? >> I'M SORRY YOU'VE ALL BEEN M MUTED.

>> MADAM CHAIR I'LL MOVE THE REQUEST OR A VARIANCE FROM CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR A FENCE TO BE LOCATED AT 5709 FOSTER AVENUE.

AS FOR CASE BZA27-2020 DATED JUNE 15TH -- AS FREQUENTE IN OUR MEETING -- PRESENTED IN

OUR MEETING. >> SECOND.

>> C. CRANE: IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> YES.

>> D. FALCOSKI: YES. PUBL

[B.2. Variance – Side Yard Setback – Addition – 243 Franklin Ave. (Ted and Christy Walsh) BZA 28-2020]

>> M. COULTER: YES. >> B. SEITZ: YES.

>> C. CRANE: YES. IT'S BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS CASE NUMBER BZ BZA2 BZA28-2020. LOCATED AT 243 FRANKLIN AVENUE.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I ASSUME EVERYONE CAN SEE THE SC SCREEN.

LY POWER THROUGH THIS. I WILL POWER THROUGH IT.

WE HAVE AN EXISTING 10,000 SQUARE FAOOT R10 PROPERTY.

THERE'S AN EXISTING, ABOUT 2100 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME CONSTRUCTED IN 1980 ON THIS SITE.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY A SINGLE -- THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO EXPAND THEIR KITCHEN, DINING ROOM, LANE DRAY ROOM.

-- LAUNDRY ROOM. WE DID RECEIVE UPDATED INFORMATION SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE RELATED TO SETBACKS AND TO THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE ASKED FOR.

AS IT ALWAYS GOES AS SOON AS YOU SEND OUT THE MATERIALS AN HOUR LATER YOU GET THE REVISED MATE MATERIALS. WHAT YOU SEE TONIGHT IS WHAT IS IN THE PACKET AND WHAT WAS SUBMITTED AFTER THE PACKET WENT OUT. THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS O EXPAND THE HOUSE ADDITIONAL SIX FEET TO THE EAST MODIFIED TO EXPAND IT EIGHT FEET TO THE EAST.

THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE VERSUS THE FOUR TO FIVE FEET REFERENCES IN THE APPLICATION IN THE PARIS, FRANCES PREVIOUS -- IN THE PREVIOUS MATERIAL.

WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE DASHED AREA, WHERE THE ADDITION TO THE EAST WOULD TAKE PL PLACE. AGAIN, IT'S FOR FIRST FLOOR KITCHEN, DINING ROOM, MUD ROOM, EXPANSION AREA AND UPSTAIRS FOR BEDROOMS AND BATH AND LOCATED THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE VERSUS THE PREVIOUS REQUEST.

JUST LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A LITTLE UNDER A THOUSAND FEET ON THE FIRST FLOORND SECOND FLOOR COMBINED.

WHAT WAS DONE IN THE LATE 70S AS PART OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE ROCKSY VILLAGE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS BEFORE YOU AT PLATTED SETBACKS AND THE HOUSE WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW IS FOR LOT NUMBER 22 ON THE SCREEN. WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED, IT WAS APPROVED FOR A REDUCED SETBACK FOR THREE EET ON EACH SIDE.

IT WAS TIED TO THE SITE PLAN ON THE HOUSE WHICH WAS, AS YOU SEE

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ON THE SCREEN TODAY. YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE TO THE EAST, LOT NUMBER 21 IS FIVE FEET.

THIS ONE WAS FOR THREE FEET FOR THE GARAGE.

THEY WERE STAGGERED AS THEY WERE CONS CONSTRUCTED. I DID WANT TO SHOW THAT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR HISTORY THERE. AGAIN, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN FROM LEFT TO RIGHT IS, HERE'S THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME. THE IDDLE IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED AS PART OF YOUR PACKAGE OYOU HAE IN YOUR MATERIALS.

AND WHAT HAS BEEN UPDATED IS TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN SHOWING THE KITCHEN EXPANSION, DINING ROOM EXPANSION TO MATCH UP WITH THE EXISTING GRADUAL WHICH WILL BE THREE FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE. THE MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FROM THE SFRTREET U WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THERE'S BEEN AN ADDITION PR PROPOSED.

AGAIN WITH HE SECOND FLOOR, OR THE FIRST FLOOR GOING FROM CURRENT TO WHAT IS NOW PROPOSED AND THEN SECOND FLOOR WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S BEEN SOME EXPANSION OF BEDROOM AND BATHROOMS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THE EXISTING SECOND FLOOR PLAN IS TO YOUR LEFT AND THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN IS TO YOUR RIGHT. THIS FRONT BEDROOM ACTUALLY EXTENDS OUT OVER THE EXISTING GLUGE YOU SEE TODAY.

-- -- GARAGE THAT YOU SEE TODAY.

WE DID RECEIVE THE ELEVATIONS AS PART OF THE PACKAGE.

WHAT YOU SEE SHOWS THE EXPANSION OVER THE TWO CAR GARAGE.

AGAIN TO THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THREE FEET WITH THE EXISTING GARAGE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CONSTRUCTING ADDITION TO THE SIDE YARD.

THE ADDITION IS TO BE THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

A VASHRIANCE OF FIVE FEET IS REQ REQUIRED. THIS IS EASTERN ELEVATION.

AND LOOK -- >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE BOARD MEMBER? NO? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT

PLEASE? >> YES, MA'AM.

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DO YOU WEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY IS THE T TRUTH, IF SO, SAY I DO? AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

FOR RECORD. >> DO WE HAVE --

>> IF YOU'RE ON BY PHONE HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

I SEE MR. VOCE ON. BUT I DON'T SEE THE --

>> HEY. CAN YOU HEAR US?

>> HELLO? >> CAN YOU HEAR US?

>> YES. >> OKAY.

TED AND CHRIS CITY SWELL ISSUE. 243 FRANKLIN AVENUE.

WE DO SWEAR THAT. >> THANK YOU.

MS. CRANE, YOU'RE MUTED. >> C. CRANE: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO MR. BROWN'S PRESENTATION?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU.

>> C. CRANE: BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COM COMMENTS?

>> HAVE YOU RECEIVED NY FEEDBACK FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS?

>> ACTUALLY PERFECT TIMING. WE DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL MAYBE 30 MINUTES AGO FROM THE NEIGHBORS AT 2 253 FRANKLIN

AVENUE. >> WHICH IS THE PROPERTY TO THE

EAST. >> CORRECT.

>> HOUSE DIRECTLY EAST F >> AND BASICALLY --

>> GO AHEAD. >> THEY'VE -- THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION AND HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH THE LOT LINE

SETBACK VARIANCE. >> C. CRANE: IS THAT THE

NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE THE LARGE WALL WITHOUT THE WINDOWS>> YES.

>> C. CRANE: SIX FEET FROM THE POST.

>> RIGHT. >> C. CRANE: ALL RIGHT.

COM COMMENTS? ALL RIGHTEDEVER ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THINGS P TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. AGAIN, YOU CAN E-MAIL OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. MS. BATAR HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMENTS BESIDE WHAT YOU READ, HAVE WE HAD ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> NOTHING YET. >> C. CRANE: I WILL STEP MY -- S SET MY STOPWATCH AND WE WILL HAVE OUR -- TIME ALLOWED FOR COMMENTS TO COME IN.

>> HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMENTS COME IN DURING THAT TIME?

>> NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE NOT.

>> C. CRANE: OKAY. I WILL CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD MEM MEMBERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COM COMMENTS? IF NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR BZ BZA2

BZA28-2020? >> MADAM CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE REQUEST BY TED AND CHRIS CITY WWALKH FOR AN ADD ADDITION TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD AS PER CASE NUMBER BZA28-2020 DRAWINGS 2020 BE APPROVED BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSION IN THE STAFF MEMO AND PRESENTED AT THE MEETING.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> C. CRANE: THANK YOU.

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MOVED AND SECCED. -- SECONDED.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> M. COULTER: YES.

[B.3. Variance - Setback from Alley – Fence – 5704 Foster Ave. (A:Z Contracting LLC/ Narayanabhatta) BZA 29-2020]

>> D. FALCOSKI: YES. >> B. SEITZ: YES.

>> YES. >> C. CRANE: YES.

IT'S BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS SO MUCH. >> OUR NEXT ITEM.

CASE NUMBER BZA29-2020 LOCATED AT 5704 FOSTER AVENUE.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE JUMPING BACK OVER TO FOSTER, AGAIN, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE 5709 THAT YOU HAD AS THE FIRST ITEM. THIS IS IN COLONIAL HILLS.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER ALLEY THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO FOSTER.

HOWEVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF FOSTER A 16-FOOT PLATTED ALLEY.

THAT RUNS, PARALLEL TO THE ROADWAY.

THIS ONE, THE APPLICANT'S EX EXISTING HOME.

THEY HAVE AN EXISTING CURB CUT ON FOSTER.

THIS ONE DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE UNPROVED ALLEY WAY.

THE ALLEY DOES PROVIDE ACCESS TO TWO TO THREE HOMES OFF OF PARK AND LED MONOTO THE SOUTH. THERE'S AN SKIMCOMEBACKS CHAIN .

THE APPLICANT AND THE CONTRACTOR REPLACED THE FENCE WITH A NEW CHAIN LINK FENCE. HOWEVER THE CONTRACTOR BELIEVED THE PROPERTY TO BE IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND THE CITY OF COLUMBUS DOES NOT REQUIRE A FENCE PERMIT LIKE WORTHINGTON DOES. THIS ONE THE APPLICANT HAS INSTOOALLED A NEW FENCE ALONG T ALLEY WAY.

SO THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE OF 30 FEET.

AGAIN THIS CHAIN LINK FENCE WAS TO REPLACE AN EXISTING CHAIN LINK INNOCENCE THE EXACT SAME LOCATION THAT WAS IN DISREPAIR.

YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FENCING AND VEGETATION.

THIS ALLEY WAY IS A LITTLE BIT NICER THAN ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF FOSTER. THE WEST SIDE WAS GRAVEL.

THIS ONE HAS SOME AS FAULT DOWN. -- AS FAULT DOWN.

YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORING PROP PROPERTIES. STAFF DID NOT FEEL THE ESSENTIAL XA CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU

MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. >> C. CRANE: BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

IS OUR APPLICANT HERE? >> HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. THANK YOU.

>> DO YOU WEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TR TRUTH.

S IF SO, SAY I DO.

>> I DO. >> THANK YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS JOSH RAN -- RAINE AND I'M REPRESENTING 547 FOSTER AVENUE.

>> C. CRANE: THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL

TO ADD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION? >> DO I NOT.

>> C. CRANE: BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COM COMMENTS? NONE? ALL RIGHT THEN.

WE WILL OPEN THINGS UP TO PUBLIC COM COMMENTS. AGAIN YOU CAN E-MAIL OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. AND HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMENTS

COMING IN ABOUT THIS ISSUE YET? >> NO MA'AM.

>> C. CRANE: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL TAKE A PAUSE WHILE WE ALLOW TIME OR PEOPLE TO CALL OR E-MAIL IN.

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>> MS. BATAR HAVE WE KNEAD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DPRRNS THE PUBLIC? ?

>> NO WE HAVE NOT. >> C. CRANE: ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? AND IF NOT, CAN I GET A MOTION REGARDING BZA29-2020?

>> B. SEITZ: MADAM CHAIR, I'LL MOVE THIS THE REQUEST BY PATRICIA FOR A VARIANCE FROM CODE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW FOR A FENCE TO BE LOCATED IN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD AT 5704 FOSTER AVENUE. AS PER CASE BZA27-2020 DRAWINGS NUMBER BZA27-2020 DATED JUNE 15, 2020 BE APPROVED BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT INCLUDED IN THE MEMO AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> C. CRANE: I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THE WRONG NUMBER ON THAT CASE -- IT SHOULD BE 29-2020 ACCORDING TO MY AGENDA? OR YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE OTHER FE FE FENCE. THE FIRST FENCE.

>> B. SEITZ: I READ THE MOTION --

>> THE MOTION WAS INCORRECT. >> C. CRANE: I SEE.

I I WANT READING THE MOTION.

BUT AS LONGS AS WE'VE GOT IT STRAIGHTEN OUT.

DO WE HAVE IT STRAIGHTENED OUT. >> YES.

BZ BZA29-TO 20 -- 2020.

>> C. CRANE: DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> C. CRANE: MOVED AND SECOND. MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL,

PLEASE? >> YES.

>> D. FALCOSKI: -- >> YOU'RE MUTED AND YOUR CAMERA

[B.4. Variance – Front Yard Setback – Portico – 6877 Hayhurst St. (Trevor Long) BZA 30-2020]

IS OFF. >> D. FALCOSKI: YES.

>> M. COULTER: YES. >> B. SEITZ: YES.

>> C. CRANE: YES. IT'S BEEN APPROVED, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT ITEM CASE NUMBER BZA3 BZA30-2020.

LOCATED AT 6877 HEY HURST STREET.

WE HAVE SAFF'S PRESENTATION? YES.

>> THE REQUEST IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF HEY -- THREE PARSELESS IN WORTHINGTON ESTATES. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW APPROXIMATELY 10 FEET WIDE BY 4.3 FEET DEEP PORCH WITH A ROOF OVER IT. SO HERE'S WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PORCH WILL LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, THE FRONT PORCH ILL ENCROACH NTO THE FRONT YARD SET SETBACK. PROPOSED TO BE 26 FEET FROM HEY HURST WHICH IS A -- THE CHARACTER OF THE NAEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT BE ALTARED. THERE'S SEVERAL MOMENTS THROUGHOUT THE ESTATES THAT ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THIS THAT HAVE PORCHES. SO STAFF DID NOT HAVE ANY

CONCERNS AT THIS TIME. >> C. CRANE: THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ONLINE? >> I'M HERE.

>> C. CRANE: ALL RIGHT. >> DO YOU SWEAR HE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH, IF SO, SAY I DO AND GIVE

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> I DO.

I'M A REPRESENTEDIVE FOR TAYLOR -- TOUGHER LONG .

MY ADDRESS. 1175

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1175CHANGTON DRIVE. >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD

TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION? >> I DO NOT.

>> C. CRANE: BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

MS. BITAR HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE REGARDING THIS APPLICATION?

>> NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE NOT.

>> C. CRANE: WE'LL TAKE OUR PAUSE WHILE WE GIVE TIME FOR

PEOPLE TO CONTACT US. >> HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS

DURING THIS TIME? >> NO, WE HAVE NOT.

>> C. CRANE: BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? AND IF NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION

FOR BZA30-2020? >> MADAM CHAIR I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE REQUEST BY TREVOR LONG FOR A VARIANCE FROM CODE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW FOR A PORCH TO BE IN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD AT 687 -- HEY HURST STREET FOR BZA30-2020.

SORRY I WAS WAITING FOR THE SI SIRENS. DRAWINGS -- DATED JULY 10, 2020, BE APPROVED BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT IN THE STAFF

[B.5. Variance – Front Yard Setback – Single Family Dwelling – 285 McCoy Ave. (JBAD Architects/Carpenter & Blanchard) BZA 31-2020]

MEMO PRESENTED AT THE MEETING. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> C. CRANE: MOVED AND SECONDED. MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL?

>> M. COULTER: YES. >> MR. GIOZI.

1234I YES. >> B. SEITZ: YES.

>> D. FALCOSKI: YES. >> C. CRANE: YES.

IT'S BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT ITEM IT LOOKS LIKE OUR FINAL ITEM OF PUBLIC HEARING TON TONIGHT.

CASE NUMBER BZA31-2020 LOCATED AT 258 MCCOY AVENUE.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR ANOTHER FRONT EYARD SET BAC AT 285 MCCOY AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF MCCOY. YOU CAN SEE RUSH CRAN VILLAGE IS TO THE SOUTH AND RUSH RUN RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE.

A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE IS HEAVILY WOODED.

THE LOT IS LARGER THAN SOME OF THE ONES IN THE NEIGHBORING PROP PROPERTIES.

IT'S A LITEVER OVER 14,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

AGAIN, THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS HEAVILY WOODED WITH A PROMINENT SLOPE DOWN TOWARDS RUSH RUN. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DW DWELLING.

THE ONLY PORTION THAT WOULD ENCROACH INTO THE 30 FOOT SETBACK WOULD BE THE GARAGE AND RETAININGS WALLS AND SCREENING WALLS FENCING AROUND THE DRIVE COURT.

SO WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU IS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE GARAGE IN THE SCREENING WALLS TO BE FIVE AND HALF FEET FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE THINK PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY THINK THAT'S EDGE OF THE PAV PAVEMENT. WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU IS MCCOY AVENUE THERE'S AN EXISTING EIGHT FEET OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT THE APPLICANT CANNOT ENCROACH IN.

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SO SO THE MEASUREMENT OF FIVE AND A HALF FEET IS FROM THE EDGE OF WHAT IS PUBLIC FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY.

SO IT WOULD BE 13 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE ACTUAL EDGE OF PAVEMENT TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS LOW WILL BE LOCATED.

AGAIN, THE LARGE SLOPE ON THE PROPERTY, HEAVILY VEG TATE TOWARD THE REAR. LY GO THROUGH SOME SLIDES TO GIVE A BIT OF HISTORY ON THE SITE.

SOME OF YOU KNOW THE SITE I KNOW MS. CRANE WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN THE PREVIOUS HOME BEFORE YOU I WAS IT WAS DEMOLISHED WENT THROUGH THE VARIANCE PROCESS. THE EXISTING SITE DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY A FEW FEET FROM THE ROAD.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A FEW YEARS AGO.

THE ORIGINAL HOME WAS DEMOLISHED AND ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER HAD PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WAND WAS BUILDING A NEW HOME.

AND AT THAT TIME THE HOUSE WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED AT THE 30 FOOT SET SETBACK.

LONG STORY SHORT, THE FOUNDATION WALLS COLLAPSED.

THE PROPERTY OWNER WENT INTO LITIGATION WITH THE BUILDER.

IT SAT FOR A WHILE AND THEN ULTIMATELY DEMOLISHED AND THE

SITE CLEANED BACK UP. >> AGAIN THIS WAS WHAT MANY OF YOU MAY RECALL SEEING SEVERAL YEARS AGO BACK IN 2015.

THIS WAS THE EXISTING HOME THAT WAS DEMOLISHED.

GERNGS YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTIG CARPORT UP NEAR MCCOY.

THAT WAS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR CLEAR T THAT'S -- THAT CARPORT WAS -- AT

THE EIGHT FOOT MARK>> CORRECT. RIGHT AT THE EDGE.

>> AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF GOING BACK FURTHER KNOW N TIME TO SHOW -- FURTHER IN TIME WHEN THERE USED TO BE MORE VEGETATION ON THE SITE. THE PREVIOUS PICTURES WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE HOUSES WAS DEM DEMOLISHED.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE WAS THE EX EXISTING HOUSE AND THE EXISTING CARPORT THAT WAS AT THE EIGHT FOOT MARK FROM THE EDGE OF MCCOY. THIS DID GO TO -- A LITTLE HISTORY. THE ORIGINAL HOUSE BUILT IN 1962 AT THE 30 FAOOT SETBACK. THE CARPORT WAS BUILT RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THE PREVIOUS TWO TO THREE PROPERTY OWNERS AGO BACK IN 2004 DID GO TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS TO RECONSTRUCT THAT CARPORT AT THAT LOCATION. SO THEY LOOKED AT THE HEIGHT AND SETBACKS AND A LOT OF THE S SCREENING THAT IS ON THE SITE.

AS PART OF THAT BACK IN 2004. IN 2015 IT WAS DEMOLISHED AND THE NEW HOUSE STARTED, AND THEN 2016 THAT'S COM THE PREVIOUS -- THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS HOME T WALLS COLLAPSED AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DEMOLISHED. SHOWING THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY.

YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE SLOPE DOWN TOWARD THE SOUTH TOWARD USH RUN. THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING MCCOY AVENUE WITH THEIR ACCESS DRIVE, URB CUT COMING OFF OF MCCOY, THEY'RE -- THEIR FIVE AND HALF SET BACK. THE GARAGE IS THE PORTION THAT WOULD ENCROACH INTO THE 30-FOOT FRONT SETBACK.

ALSO ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE DRIVE COURT AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF RETAINING WALL AND FENCING WHICH WE NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE APP APPLICANT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE -- SORRY MY MOUSE DISAPPEARED.

THE DRIVE COURT, THE FENCING AND SCREENING WALL WE BELIEVE COMES AROUND TO SCREEN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF FELT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE CONVE CONVERSATION.

LOOKING AT WHAT WAS SHOWN TO YOU BEFORE, SHOWING YOU THE EIGHT FEET AND FIVE AND A HALF FEET TO GIVE AN IDEA WHERE THE -- APPEARS TO BE A THREE CAR GARAGE, AND THE FENCING WOULD BE LO LOCATED.

AGAIN, THIS IS PROINVITED -- PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

SHOWING THE NORTH ELEVATION. THEY'RE HOWING THIS GARAGE IN THIS AREA. THE GARAGE APPEARS TO BE IN THE ALMOST IDENTITY OF -- IDENTICAL LOCATION OF THE PREVIOUS.

AS YOU GO FROM WEST TO EAST DOWN MCCOY THEY HAVE THEIR CURB CUT IN -- INTO THEIR DRIVE COURT. AND YOU HAVE THESE FENCING, AND I BELIEVE PART OF THIS WOULD BE RETAINING WALL, TO GET TO THE GARAGE. WE NEED CLARKS FROM THE -- CLARIFICATION OF THE APPLICANT ON MATERIALS AND HATH OF THE -- HEIGHT OF THE WALLS. THE STAFF DIDN'T HAVE A HUGE KWRN THE GARAGE LOCATION. HOWEVER HAD CONCERNS WITH THE

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SCREENING WALLS, THE DRIVE COURT CR CREATING A COMPOUND LOOK. AND THEN THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE OTHER EL SLEVATIONS. THIS IS WE'RE LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE FRONT SETBACK.

LOOK AT THE SITE -- LOOK AT THE SITE IT'S NOT A LOT OF LEVEL GROUND TO WORK WITH. THIS IS THE NEIGHBORING PARCEL TO THE WEST THAT YOU MAY RECALL EARLIER IN THE YEAR, MAYBE LATE LAST YEAR BOB WEB HOMES CAME VARIANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY TO HAVE THEIR GARAGE ENCROACH INTO THE RONT SETBACK AND THAT WAS ENCROUCHING, HEY WERE PUTTING IT AT THE 19 AND HALF FEET VERSUS THE 30 FEET. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE MATERIALS THERE. THAT'S LOCATION OF A NEW HOME ALSO UNDER SCRUBBINGS -- UNDER CONST CONSTRUCTION. LOOKING ALONG MCCOY TOWARDS THE EAST -- I WILL GO THROUGH THIS. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE DROPS OFF DRAMA DRAMATICALLY.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF WHERE THAT SECOND HOME WAS LOOKING UP THE HILL, LOOKING WEST. LOOK TOWARDS RUSH RUN.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE TO THE EAST AND THEN LOOK UP TO THE WEST TOWARD THE OTHER NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.

>> WHEN IT DID GO BEFORE THE BOARD BACK IN 2004 TO RECONSTRUCT THAT CARPORT AT THE EDGE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BRAUPTH DURING THAT -- BROUGHT UP DURING THAT DISCUSSION AS PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATION WAS THE SCREENING AND VEGETATION ON THE SITE AT LEAST READING THE MEETING MINUTES. THE BOARD FELT IT HELPED BUFFERING THAT SCREEN ENCOACHMENT INTO THAT FRONT SET SETBACK.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF ASKED FOR IN THE STAFF MEMO IS MAYBE THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF SCREENING PLAN OR VEGETATION AS PART OF THIS TO HELP BUFFER.

I THINK THERE WAS ADDITIONAL YEYES QUESTIONS THAT TAFF WANTED TO GET ON RECORD FROM THE APPLICANT TO THE HATH OF THE -- HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE.

THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCING AND MAYBE A VEGETATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS PART OF THE REVIEW.

WE'RE BACK TO THE MATERIALS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

LOOKING AT THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER, WE FELT IT MIGHT SUBSTANTIALLY BE ALTERED. NOT KNOWING WHAT THE SCREENING WALL WOULD BE RAND THE HEIGHT RELATED TO IT.

>> I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> C. CRANE: I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I'M READING THAT DRAWING

RIGHT. >> THE DARK LINE WITH THE WITH UNDERNEATH IT IS THAT THE SLOPE OF THE LAND?

>> THIS WOULD BE THE ROAD OF MCCOY GONE GOING WEST TO EAST.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE ELEVATION WHERE THE GARAGE IS BELOW GRADE.

>> OKAY. >> AND THAT SCREEN WALL, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS PORTION OF IT -- TO HOLD BACK THE EARTH THAT HOLDS

BACK MCCOY. >> THE DARKER GRAYISH PART IS

WHAT WOULD BE VISIBLE>> YES, MA'AM.

I BELIEVE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SIDE PROFILES THAT THIS GARAGE RE ROOF I BELIEVE WOULD BE A FLAT ROOF. THREE TO FOUR FEET ABOVE GRADE.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET CONFIRMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> C. CRANE: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> YEAH. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IF YOU COULD FLIP BACK TO THE SITE PLAN YOU WERE SHOWING.

SO I REMEMBER THE BOB WEB HOUSE THAT'S GOING NEXT TO -- IN THAT

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LOCATION. WHEN CINDY CAME IN FRONT OF US AND HAD THE LOT SPLIT THE HOUSE THAT GOT DEMOLISHED WAS CLOSER TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAN WHAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED FOR THE BOB WEB HOUSE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS CONFIRMATION, IN YOUR COMMENTS SAID, THE BOB WEST WEB HOUSE WAS APPROVED AT 19 AND HALF FEET?

>> CORRECT. >> SO BASICALLY --

>> THAT'S IN THIS GENERALLY LOCATION.

>> YEAH. ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH THE GARAGE, RIGHT? IS WHERE THE BOB WEB HOUSE WOULD BE BUILT? IS IT 19 AND HALF FEET FROM THE SH STREET OR FROM THE PROPERTY

LINE? >> FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

FROM THE POSITIVE -- FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>>

>> YES, SR. >> SO THE BOARD RECOGNIZES THAT.

THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE THAT IS NOT BUILT YET BUT WILL GET S STARTED ON CONSTRUCTION SOON WOULD THINK.

>> HERE'S THE HOUSE THAT WAS DEMOLISHED ON THE BOB WEB PIECE THAT YOU SEE HERE. AND THEY HAD THE GARAGE OUT FRONT WITH THE HOUSE BEHIND THEM.

BUT THEY WERE GOING TO BE PROBABLY IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY FROM THE GARAGE. IF YOU CAN SEE THE ARROW.

LOOKS LIKE I'M SPORADIC BUT IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY.

>> OKAY. AND LEE, CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AGAIN? ACTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY THE ELEVATION YOU WERE LOOKING AT EARLIER THAT NORTH ELEVATION, YEAH THAT ONE. SO THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT'S BEING LABELED AS A SCREENING WALL RIGHT NOW, AND YOU REFERRED TO IT AS MAYBE A FENCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE JUST NEED CLARIFICATION ON.

IS WHAT IS THAT? >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE TO THE RIGHT OF THIS LITTLE CAR IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A COMBINATION OF FENCE AND RETAINING WALL TO HOLD THE EITHER BACK.

-- EARTH BACK. WE'LL HAVE TO GET CLARKS FROM THE -- CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPL

APPLICANTS. >> THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I

HAVE FOR STAFF. >> C. CRANE: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

FOR STAFF? >> IF THE APPLICANT IS ERE WILL

YOU PLEASE SWEAR IM OR HER? >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY IS THE TRUTH IF SO SAY I DO AND IF SO, IVE

YOUR ADDRESS. >> THIS ISSER RICK THOMPSON WITH REPRESENTING CRAIG CARPENTER AND INDICATE BLAIN CHARRED

APPROPRIATE OWNERS. >> C. CRANE: THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WHAT STAFF WAS PRESENTING>> QU WELL, I CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE STAFF THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE THAT THE POINT. I THINK THE DESCRIPTIONS PUT FORTH BY STAFF WERE ACCURATE. IN THE DIAGRAM CUT THROUGH MCCOY. SO ES, THE INTENT IS THAT SIMILAR TO THE CARPORT, THE EARLIER CARPORT PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN ON THE SITE, THE GARAGE IS KIND OF IMBEDDED INTO THE NO NORTHERN -- SORRY THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE.

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY TO -- WHILES THE IN THE SETBACK IT'S KIND OF MINIMIZED BY THE FACT IT'S BUILT INTO THE HILLSIDE. AND THE SCREENING WALLS ARE ESSENTIALLY A CONTINUATION OF THE RETAINING WALLS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE RETAINING WALLS AS PART OF THE LENGTH BECAUSE OF THE TAE -- TOPOGRAPHY. AND WE WANTED TO CREATE, RATHER THAN HAVING A FLAT SLOPING MO -- AREA. AND MOST ATTRACTIVE AND MOST USEFUL TO HAVE A FLAT LEVEL GROUND IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

THE SCREENING WALLS IS MEAORE TN ANYTHING TRYING TO GIVE DEFINITION AND CLARITY AND SIMPLICITY TO THAT ENTRY AREA TO PROVIDE GRACEFUL ENTRY INTO THE HOUSE.

AS FAR AS MATERIAL -- WE'RE RELATIVE EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. I THINK THE INTENT WOULD BE IF

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MOST LIKELY THE SAME OR VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF MATERIALS TO THE HOUSE ITSELF. SO WE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF OPT OPTIONS.

HAVEN'T SETTLED ON ONE. BUT MOST LIKELY SOME -- ALTHOUGH THERE ARE OME OPTIONS BEING CONSIDERED.

IT'S AN OPAQUE WALL. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ABOUT OPTIONS. THAT'S CURRENT INTENT.

AND AS FAR AS -- I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HEIGHT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE REA RIGHT HAND SIDE THE MAIN LEVEL OF THE HOUSE IS 858 WHICH IS SLIGHTLY BELOW THE MCCOY AT THE LOW POINT TO THE LEFT.

THE GARAGE IS 10 FEET HEIGHT -- 10 FEET HIGH JUST TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCT ABILITY. I THINK WE SHOWED THE SCREEN AT SEVEN AND A HALF FEET IN THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING.

WE COULD HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT IF THAT WAS DESIRABLE.

IT'S NOT INTENDED TO CREATE A COMPOUND FEEL.

PARTLY OF THE ELEVATION OF MCCOY DESCENDING FROM THE WEST, THIS WOULD NOT FEEL QCUT OFF OR SHIELDED TOO MUCH.

IT'S REALLY GIVING DEFINITION TO THIS -- ENTRY COURT IS PROBABLY A BETTER WORD FOR IT THAN DRIVE COURT.

I THINK THAT ADDRESSES ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHERS IF NEEDED THE.

-- IF NEEDED. >> C. CRANE: WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL IN YOUR APPLICATION PA

PACKET? >> WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL? I BELIEVES THE SEVEN AND A HALF FEET ABOVE THAT MAIN LEVEL WHICH IS SET AT 858.

>> I WILL POINT OUT TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, THE WALLS CAN'T BE HIGHER THAN SIX FEET UNLESS THE BOARD WOULD GRANT A VARIANCE TO

DEVIATE FROM THAT REQUIREMENT. >> THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS

APPLICATION, CORRECT? >> IT CAN BE IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT THE APPLICATION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE WE WANTED TO GET CLARKS OF WHAT THE HEIGHT -- CLARIFICATION OF THE

WHAT THE HEIGHT WAS. >> I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT HEIGHTED WAS -- HEIGHT WAS MORE THAN ANYTHING.

WE WANTED TO AVOID HAVING IT STEP DOWN A LOT.

WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME SIMP SIMPLICITY. WE THOUGHT HE SEVEN AND A HALF FEET BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY WE'VE SEEN IN THE SITE SURVEY WAS ADEQUATE TO AWE'VE THAT. I -- ACHIEVE THEYTHY -- I THINK THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT HEIGHT.

WE PREFER NOT IS TO HAVE IT STEP DOWN ACROSS THE COURSE OF THE FRONT OF THE ROAD. WE'RE NOT SURE THAT SIX FEET WOULD BE TALL ENOUGH TO COVER THE RETAINING WALL THAT WILL BE NEEDED AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.

>> C. CRANE: BUT AT THIS POINT UNLESS THAT IS INCLUDED WHICH IT'S NOT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO EITHER REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL ASSUMING IT WAS APPROVED AT ALL OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A VARIANCE TO HAVE IT HIGHER THAN SIX FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. BROWN?

>> I GUESS I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THEN.

I'M LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE LITTLE CAR.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS PART OF THE RETAINING WALL AND THE WALL ITSELF I GUESS GO OING OVER. IT'S CONTINUOUS ATTACHED TO THE GARAGE AND AROUND TO THE HOUSE? SO IT'S ALL ONE STRUCTURE.

>> YES. >> IS THIS ON THE EASTERN SIDE?

CONNECT TO THE HOUSE ALSO? >> IT DOES, YES.

>> OKAY. THEN I THINK -- YOU DON'T NEED

TO ADD THE SIX FEET. >> YOU'RE CONFUSING ME.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD? I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SIX FEET.

I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH ANYTHING HIGHER.

I GUESS THE CLARIFICATION FOR ME ARE WE GOING TO CONSIDER THE WALL AS PART OF THE APPLICATION OR NOT? IF WE DON'T CONSIDER IT AS PART OF THE APPLICATION IT'S AN EASIER THING I THINK FOR ALL OF US IF WE DO CONSIDER IT AS PART OF THE APPLICATION THEN I WOULD WANT TO HAVE MORE DEFINITION ABOUT THE MATERIALS, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT'S IT GOING TO

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LOOK LIKE. >> SO IS THAT A QUESTION FOR US AS THE APPLICANTS OR IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE --

>> SEEMS LIKE IT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE THE GARAGE THE WHOLE SITE. THIS IS -- IT'S PART OF IT.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THAT WALL, THEN I THINK IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS APPLI APPLICATION. BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PLAN. I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE A SEPARATE WALL THAT'S JUST OUT THERE. IT'S CONNECTED TO EVERYTHING.

SO YOU EITHER HAVE TO APPROVE IT OR NOT APPROVE IT AS PART OF THE

WHOLE PLAN. >> AND I GUESS I WOULD SAY IF THE -- WITH THE REMAINING WITHIN THE SIX FOOT LIMITATION IS CONDITION OF APPROVAL. I THINK WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT. I WOULD PREFER THAT WE, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO STEP THAT WALL AS IT COMES ACROSS BUT I THINK

WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT. >> C. CRANE: WELL WALL RIGHT UP THERE ON THE SECRET PRACTICAL.

-- SECTREET PRACTICALLY HAT IS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL.

LET'S UST PUT THAT WAY. IT'S KIND OF NOT THE KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE TYPICALLY ENCO ENCOURAGED. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALLOW FENCES IN THE FRONT WARD. AND IT'S -- IN THE FRONT YARD AND ONLY UNDER EXTREMELY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE DO ALLOW THEM. I UNDERSTAND HE SLOPE.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MOVE THE GARAGE IN THE SETBACK.

I DON'T -- AND THE RETAINING WALL, OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEED STABILITY FOR YOUR STRUCTURE AND LAND LANDSCAPE. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE FENCE, FOR THE WALL.

>> THIS IS GARRETT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE S SCREENING.

ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE EXTENDING AROUND THE ENTIRE HOUSE IN THE GARAGE. I THINK MATERIALS, ELEVATIONS FOR SURE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US, FOR ME PERSONALLY TO CONSIDER APPROVING THAT WITH THIS SETBACK THAT'S REQUESTED.

>> B. SEITZ: LET ME ADD A LITTLE BIT ON -- I'LL ADD TO WHAT GAR R RET IS SAYING.

I DON'T HAVE CONCERN OR ISSUE APP APPROVING A GARAGE LOCATION IN THE SIMILAR LOCATION TO WHERE IT WAS, NOT IN THE PREVIOUS HOUSE THAT WAS THERE HAT DEMOLISHED BUT THE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE PRIOR TO THAT.

SO FORGIVE MY JUMPING AROUND TH THERE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT RETAINING WALLS ARE REQUIRED. THE GARAGE SEEMS IT'S GOING BACK IN A SIMILAR LOCATION TO WHERE IT WAS.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT WALL GOING IN THE SETBACK HAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MATERIAL IS. YOU HAVE THRONE THROWN OUT A COUPLE -- THROWN OUT A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR US BUT FOLLOWED THAT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE AN OPAQUE WALL.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME APPROVING IF THAT SCREENING WALL IS NCLUDED IN THIS MOTION. AS I SAID, JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, I'M FINE WITH WHERE THE GARAGE IS LOCATED.

I'M FINE WITH THE RETAINING WALL TO SPORT GARAGE AND A -- SUPPORT A MOTOR COURT. TEN CLOSURE OF THE MOTOR COURT

IS WHERE I HAVE A HARD TIME. >> UDERSTOOD.

I THINK WE WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO THE IDEA, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO GUIDE US TO AS HOW BEST TO PROCEED.

IF WE COULD CONSIDER THE SC SCREENING WALL AS A ITEM THAT NEEDS MORE INFORMATION TO BE REVIEWED, DETAILED EL VISIONS -- ELEVATION, MATERIALS. WE COULD COME FWHAK A FUTURE SESSION OR -- BACK IN A FUTURE SESSION.

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WE WOULD PREFER THAT? N THAT SCENARIO IF POSSIBLE, GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THE KEY ISSUES WHICH ARE THE PRIMARY ONES THAT WE WANTED TO TACKLE IN THIS MEETING.

SO IF THAT'S -- I THINK WE WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO THAT APPROACH.

>>>> B. SEITZ: LEE, COULD I GET YOU TO PULL THE PHOTOS ACK UP I'M MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE VIEWS FROM THE EASTERN SIDE.

Y YEAH.

SO THERE WE SEE NO NEED FOR RETAINING WALL AS MCCOY COMES DOWN THE HILL TO CROSS OVER RUSH RUN.

TO ME THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE IS APPROVING A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT HIGH FENCE THAT'S ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. I KNOW, LEE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET AROUND TO READING INTO RECORD AN E-MAIL RERECEIVED FROM AN NEIGHBOR. I BELIEVE THAT'S SAME CONCERN

THAT THE NEIGHBORS AVE AS WELL. >> CORRECT.

>> SO THE -- WELL, SO I UNDERSTAND.

THE SCREENING WALL ON THE EAST SIDE S THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING AB ABOUT? THAT WOULD NOT BE A RETAINING WALL.

THAT'S ON LEVEL GROUND. IT WOULD BE TRULY A SCREENING WALL? AM I CORRECTLY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S ONE YOU'RE REFERRING T? IS IT BECAUSE -- ON THE WEST SIDE AT LEAST TO DO THE APPROACH THAT WE PROPOSED WE WOULD HAVE

TO HAVE RETAINING WALLS THERE. >> YES.

SO WHAT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE DRYLAUG IS BEING CALLED SCREENING WALL NOW. STLA A CONCERN WITH AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT OF WHERE LEE IS POINTINGS -- POINTING NOW.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU NEED SOME KIND RIGHTOF RETAINING WALL THE. WE CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THE DRIVE OR MOTOR COURT IS GOING TO BE.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF RETAINING WALL THERE. IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THAT WALL NEEDS TO BE SEVEN AND HALF FEET HIGH IS WHAT IS IN QUESTION FOR

ME NOW. >> UNDERSTOOD.

AND WE CAN COULD -- LIKE I SAID WE WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO COME BACK WITH FURTHER IR -- FURTHER INFORMATION AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND DARNS ARE RAISE -- CONCERNS THAT ARE R

RAISED. >> SO MR. COULTER, WHEN WE GET THERE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THIS MOTION.

BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGING MOTION THAT WE CAN'T

JUST READ. >> C. CRANE: WELL WE -- WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU GET THERE.

>> B. SEITZ: UNDERSTOOD. I WANTED TO PLANT THE SEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS MOTION BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST READING -- READ

IT. >> C. CRANE: THE APPLICATION IS NOT FOR A GARAGE. IT'S FOR THE DWELLING AND THE RETAINING AND THE SCREENING WA WALLS. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE GARAGE -- ARE WE BEING ASKED, MR. BROWN, TO -- IS THE RESIDENCE ITSELF IN THIS SE SETBACK? DOES THAT EED THE VARIANCE OUR IS --

>> THE GARAGE PORTION OF THE HOUSE IS PROPOSED TO BE IN THE SET SETBACK.

AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE PLUCKED CPAP PULL -- APPLICANT. IT CAN PULL IT BACK UP.

ACCORDING TO WHAT WAS SUBMITTED, THE HOUSE PORTION BE BACK 34 FEET WHICH IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE IS 30 FEET BY RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE MAIN PORTION OF THE HOUSE WOULD WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE SETBACK.

IT WAS THE GARAGE ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE ENCROACHING INTO THAT 30 FOOT SET

SETBACK. >>

>> IF YOU TOOK OUT THE PART OF THE SEASONS THAT SAID FOR A NEW -- SENTENCE THAT SAID A NEW SINGLE CHANGE TAT. STOW TO SAY ALLOW FOR A GARAGE TO BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD SET SETBACK. THAT TAKES CARE OF IT.

>> YEAH. MR. THOMPSON IS IT A TWO CAR OR

THREE CAR GARAGE? >> A TWO CAR.

>> I THINK THAT'S IRRELEVANT FOR

US. >> IT IS A TWO CAR GARAGE.

>> I FIGURED WITH THE 34 FOOT DEPTH I WAS SEEING.

>> C. CRANE: IF I MAY -- >> IF I MAY SPEAK UP MADAM CHAIR CHAIRPERSON.

I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE THIS BLAPPLICATION UP.

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I THINK THE APPLICANT IS HEARING THAT THE BOARD IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE GARAGE IN THAT PLACEMENT.

DETAILS OF THE REST OF THAT RETAINING WALL AND OF THE SCREEN WALLS NEED TO BE WORKED OUT OR ELIMINATED IN THE DRAWINGS EED TO CHANGE TO REFLECT THAT. I THINK I WOULD RATHER SEE IT GET TABLED AND COME BACK WITH ACCURATE DRAWINGS THEN TO JUST APPROVE THE GARAGE NOT KNOWING WHICH PARTS OF THE RETAINING WALLS ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO

LOOK. >> C. CRANE: I AGREE WITH THAT.

IT'S A TOO COMPLICATED PROJECT FOR US TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO GUESS WHAT WE ARE INCLUDING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT INCLUDING.

SO -- >>>> B. SEITZ: THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. AT LEAST AT THIS POINT M MR. THOMPSON YOU KNOW YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD YOU'VE VIVREABLE -- FAVORABLE AND HEAD NODS WITH THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE BUT THE DETAILS ARE FUZZY AND UP IN THE AIR THAT WE NEED

MORE CLARIFICATION ON. >> C. CRANE: I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN CASE THERE'S SOMEONE HERE WAITING OR WHO HAS BEEN WATCHING THE STREAM AND WANTS TO COMMENT.

SO BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OR FOR STAFF.

IF NOT,LY ASK IF WE HAVE ANYONE W

WAITING. >> WE DO HAVE AN E-MAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE BOARD LATE THIS AFTE AFTERNOON. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED IT. IT'S FROM ADAM AND ROE ZANE NEGEL ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD?

>> YES. PLEASE>> CAN WE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE SHE'S READING THAT.

>> NO BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING AND WATCHING ONLINE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THIS.

>> C. CRANE: RIGHT. >> B. SEITZ: TRYING TO CONSO CONSOLIDATE.

>> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. >> CAN I JUST -- COULD I JUST INTE INTERJECT? I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING ON ANOTHER CHAN WILL THE CLIENT AND I THINK WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE REDUCING THE HEIGHT OF THAT SCREENING WALL TO THE SIX FEET IF THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO JUST MOVE FORWARD AND CHIEVE RESO RESOLUTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GENERALLY FAVORABLE DISPOSITION TOWARDS THE GARAGE.

BUT WE WOULD PREFER TO GET THIS MATTER RESUAFOVLD WE CAN IF THERE'S UNSERCERTAINTY AND UNKNS OF OF FUTURE DISCUSSION.

>> C. CRANE: PERSONALLY I'M NOT COMFO COMFORTABLE. THAT'S WHERE MY VOTE IS.

>> MADAM CHAIRMAN, I OULD ADD FROM THE STAFF'S STANDPOINT, WE WERE AGREEMENT IN THE GARAGE LOCATION AND PORTION OF THE RETAINING WALLS. BUT THE COURTYARD COMPONENT IS THE ONE THAT RAISED ISSUE FOR US WITH COMPATIBILITY OF THE NEIGH NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ALSO HAD THROWN THE IDEA OUT THAT MIGHT HELP WITH AT LEAST THE GARAGE AND MAYBE HELP WITH THE SCREENING WALL OR THAT CARPORT AREA OR THE CAR LOT AREA IS, IF THERE'S A LANDSCAPING PLAN ASOWSUATED WITH THIS -- ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT MAY HELP SOFTEN WHAT THAT ENCROACHMENT IS. I IF YOU'RE IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW DISTRICT WITH SCREENING WE LOOK TOWARDS NATURAL SC SCREENING VERSUS HARD ESCAPE SCREENING.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO GO OUT THERE BEFORE

YOU GO ANY FURTHER. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD IT'S ALSO NOT TYPICAL ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO HAVE WALLS SIX FEET OR THREE FEET OR LESS RIGHT OUT IN THE FRONT SET SETBACK.

THAT IS JUST NOT A TYPICAL THING.

MAYBE A LOW ONE TO TWO-FOOT WALL TO FRAME THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, BUT AS FAR AS HAVING ANYTHING EVEN SIX FEET HIGH IS

NOT TYPICAL IN THE CITY AT ALL. >> C. CRANE: NOT THAT LOSE TO THE STREET AT ALL. AT THIS POINT, WOULD YOU PLEASE

READ THAT LETTER MS. BITAR? >> SURE.

SO REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. THIS ADAM AND ROE SEAN NEGAL.

TO BE GRBRIEF WE SUPPORT AND HA CONCERNS WITH THE VARIANCE REQUESTED IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST WE WE UNDERSTAND THE

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GARAGE STRUCTURE WILL NEED A REVISED FRONT YARD SETBACK TO BE STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND ABSORB BUILDING COST.

SIMILAR TO A CARPORT THAT ONCE STOOD ON THE PROPERTY AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND SOME SORT OF RETAINING WALL WILL BE NEEDED TO FOURTH IS GARAGE STRUCTURE. WITH THE SET BACK VARIANCE WE AGREE. WITH THE CONCERN IS ELEVATION OF THE SCREENING WALL OPPOSED TO THE -- IN THE FRONT YARD SET BACK. THIS WALL IS SEEN MOST CLEARLY IN THE NORTH AND EAST ELEVATION DRA DRAWINGS. WE HAVE CONCERNS OF THE HEIGHT AS IT FACES THE STREET ESP ESPECIALLY BUT DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S A NECESSARY PART OF RE RETAINING WALL STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE, GARAGE SIDE, OF OF THE TOFT DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE.

WE UNDERSTAND A LOW LEVEL R RETAINING WALL MIGHT BE NECESSARY BUT HIGH WALL THAT BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE TREES IN GENERALLY PROPERTY BEHIND IS A CON CONCERN. SIMPLY THE NAME -- NAME SCREENING WALL VERSUS ETAINING WALL IMPLIES IT WILL BE HIGH.

WITH THIS STRUCTURE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET WE REITERATE THE BOARD'S OWN CONCERNS THIS WILL REFLECT A COMPOUND LIKE LOOK AND BE CONTRARY TO THE OPEN NATURE OF THE MORSE EDITION AND COM COMBHUNT.

IT DOES NOT SEEM OTHER HOMES WOULD RECEIVE PERMISSION TO PUT A PRIVACY FENCE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET.

A LOW LEVEL RETAINING WALL THAT DOES NOT RISE HIGH ABOVE THE DRIVEWAY ELEVATION IS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENT LOOK IN UNDERS UNDERSTANDABLE.

AS RESIDENTS OF THE STREET FOR 15 YEARS.

WE LOVE SEEING THE CHANGES IN THIS CORNER OF WORTHINGTON AND APPRECIATE THE DIVERSE ARA ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE OUR NEW NEIGHBORS JOIN US.

IT'S A LONG TERM AND INTEGRITY OF THE OPEN AREA ALONG NATURAL MINDS -- LINES OF SITE THAT -- SIGHT THAT WE ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. THE UNIQUE NEEDS TENDS NAT

NATURAL -- NATURAL SETTING CAN BE JOINED TOGETHER WELL STEPPE>>

SORRY FOR MY VOICE. >> C. CRANE: DO WE HAVE ANY --

ANYONE ELSE WAITING TO COMMENT. >>VY NOT -- I HAVE I HAVE NOT

SEEN ANYONE ELSE. >> WE WILL TAKE OUR PAUSE AND ALLOW SOME TIME IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO CALL.

OR E-MAIL IN. >> MS. BITAR, HAS ANYONE ELSE CALLED OR EMAILED IN REGARDING THIS PROJECT?

>> NO, THEY HAVE NOT. >> C. CRANE: OKAY.

BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR WOULD THE APPLICANT CONSIDER TA TABLING THIS TO MAKE SOME DESIGN ADJUS ADJUSTMENTS? HOW DO YOU WISH TO PROCEED?

>> THINK ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER IS, I BELIEVE ALSO ON THE LINE AND WAS WONDERING IF THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THEM TO MAKE ADDITIONAL COM

COMMENTS? >> C. CRANE: ABSOLUTELY.

>> YES. >> C. CRANE: THEY NEED TO BE

SWORN IN BUT ABSOLUTELY. >> CAN REEVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY?

>> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH, IF SO SAY, I DO AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MY NAME IS CRAIG CARPETENER AND I'M FROM BOSTON 19 MELROSE STREET. TE

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TERSE>> C. CRANE: WAILED YOU LIKE TO ADD.

>> MY I -- A CAUSAL COMMENT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS AND HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING LEA BROWN WHEN I WAS VISITING AND CHOSE THIS SITE. I WANTED TO DMAENT MY WIFE AND I WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT PICKING THIS SITE AND THE COMMUNITY.

MY WIFE IS FROM WORTHINGTON. SHE GREW UP THERE AND WE ARE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING VERY MUCH TO RETURN TO BE NEAR FAMILY AND FRIENDS BACK IN OHIO. SO WE ARE OPEN TO YOUR PROFESSIONAL SUGGESTIONS ON INTEGRATING THIS INTO THE COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS TO CREATE A COME PPOUND EFFECT OR ANYTHING E THAT. THESE ARE JUST IDEAS WE WERE WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT ON. AND WE ARE OPEN TO COMING TO A BOTH AN OATH STHETIC AND COMPLY MEN RARE -- I I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WE WERE EXCITED TO BE THERE.

THIS WAS A VERY INTENTIONAL DECISION FOR US.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO INVITING MANY FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER. AND INTEGRATING OURSELVES INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SO THAT YOU KNEW WHERE OUR MIND SET WAS AT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY CAN BE

PROUD OF. >> C. CRANE: THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO TABLING THIS APPLICATION FOR A MONTH WHILE YOU MAKE SOME DESIGN ADJUSTMENTS NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A FEEL FOR WHAT THE STAFF AND BOARD'S AND COMMUNITY'S FEELINGS ARE ABOUT THIS?

>> I'VE HEARD EVERYBODY EAST COMMENT.

I'VE BEEN ON THE CALL FROM THE START.

IT SOUNDS TO ME, I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECT OR PART OF THE ZONING COMMITTEE. SOUNDS TO ME THAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO -- WE FEEL LIKE THE GARAGE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE IMPORTANT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT. THE RETAINING WALL SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS A PART OF THE DESIGN AS WELL.

BUT I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT OR CON CONTRACTOR. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO LOOKING AT THE HEIGHT OF THAT WALL.

MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE CAN GET AS MUCH APPROVED AS POSSIBLE ON THIS CALL. IF THERE'S A LOT OF UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, SX SXHENTS -- COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, I CAN CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT. MY INITIAL THOUGHT, WHICH I PASS THROUGHED ERIK WAS TO GET AN APPROVAL OF A SIX-FOOT RETAINING WALL AND REVISIT THE SCREENING WALL.

BY UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S MOVING TOO FAST FOR THE BOARD TO

APPROVE THAT. >> C. CRANE: I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO THE DRAWINGS AND THE MATERIALS PRESENT TOAST.

AND YOU KNOW, WHILE SOMETIMES WE WILL ASK PEOPLE TO CUT A FIVE-FOOT FENCE DOWN TO FOUR OR FOUR AND A HALF FEET, THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. BUT TO -- THIS WALL I THINK YOU'VE PRESENTED AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF YOUR WHOLE PROJECT.

I THINK I PERSONALLY WANT TO HAVE MORE DETAILED TEMATERIALS PRESENTED TO ME RATHER ON THAT TRY TO KIND OF GUESS FROM THE MEETING COMMENTS WHAT IT IS THAT -- AND YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT EVEN GO BACK AND SAY TO YOURSELF, NOW WHAT WAS IT THEY APPROVED OR DIDN'T APPROVE? SO I THINK I WANT TO SITE BACK

IN A MORE FINAL CON SECRETE FOR. >> SURE.

AND -- YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND AND WE DID PRESENT THIS AND WE DO -- WE TRY TO ALWAYS CONSIDER IT AS A UNIFIED AND COHERENT PROJECT. I'M SURE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT'S FOR OUR PROCESS AND FOR OUR ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCE ON ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN WHICH ARE PROBABLY THE MORE SIGNIFICANT, PARTICULARLY THE GARAGE IS, IS KEY TO US. AND SOCCERS IF -- SO, IF THERE ARE WAY TO REASONABLY SET THAT OUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR PREF PREFERENCE.

HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT. THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IN A WRITTEN KNOW TATE -- NOTATED FORM GHAIVEN YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE -- WE'LL WORK WITH THE DECISION YOU H HAVE. WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ONE MORE TIME THE CONCEPT OF SEPARATING OUT AND APPROVING SIMPLY THE

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GARAGE PART AND WHATEVER I SUPPOSE RETAINING WALLS ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. NOT WITH THE -- AND THEN SEPARATELY THE PROVISION OF SCREENING WALLS AS A DESIGN ELEMENT THAT WE COME BACK IN A FUTURE MEETING TO ADDRESS.

WITH DETAILED DRAWINGS. >> C. CRANE: SO -->> B. SEITZ: CAN I MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS, PLEASE?

>> C. CRANE: CERTAINLY. >> B. SEITZ: MR. CARPETENER I'M APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR COMMENTS AND FEAELINGS YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF INCLUSIVITY AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID.

YOU KNOW, OUR BOARD TAKES THESE ITEMS VERY SERIOUSLY AND THE FACT THAT YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT JUST AS SERIOUSLY MEANS AN AWFUL LOT FOR ME AND I I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR SEVERAL MEMBER ON THE BOARD. YOU HAVE SELECTED A TOPNOTCH ARCHITECT CHORE AND DESIGN TEAM IN OUR CITY.

THERE'S O DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE FOLKS AND JONATHAN BARNS ARCH ARCHITECTTURE ONAND DESIGN ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH A SLOLUTIN THAT YOU'RE HAPPY WITH AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE A PROJECT DESIGNED BY JONATHAN BARNS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE TROTHS LIVE AND I DRIVE BY THIS PROPERTY PRACTICAL EVERY DAY.

WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR I'M EXCITED ABOUT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME SEPARATING OUT RIGHT NOW ANY SPECIFIC PIECE OF THIS, MR. THOMPSON, TO SAY YES TO SOME SOMETHING.

I WOULD RATHER GIVE YOU GUYS THE FLEXIBILITY AS A DESIGNER AND ARCHITECT TO BE ABOLE TO MANEUVR AS YOU SEE FIT WITHOUT HAVING US COME BACK AT YOU SAYING REMEMBER THIS IS WHAT WE APPROVED AND THEREFORE YOU'RE NOW STUCK. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TAKE THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, TAKE 30 DAY. S COME BACK TO US -- DAYS, COME BACK TO US. I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE SOLUTION YOU COME BACK TO US IS GOING TO BE STRONGER THAN EVER.

>> OKAY. WHERE WELL. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

WE APPRECIATE I. AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE WORKING IN WORTHINGTON. WE HAVE A LOT OF WERESPECT FOR E COMMUNITY AND THE CITY. AND THE HISTORIC VILLAGE NEAR BY. SO AND WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS AN INCREDIBLE DESIGN AND WE'RE THRILLED BY IT.

AND CRAIG HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC CLIENT THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING THATA ENHANCES THE SIE AND CITY.

GIVEN ALL THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, I MEAN YOU'RE REASONING IS SOUND. I THINK WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH TABLING THE MOTION AND COMING BACK WITH A -- AN UPDATED DESIGN THAT ADDRESSES THE COMMENTS YOU BROUGHT TONIGHT.

>> B. SEITZ: AND ONE -- >> SORRY.

>> ONE FINAL COMMENT I HAD THEN. THERE'S MY ONLY -- IF I COULD SAY CONCERN WOULD BE WE DON'T -- AS WE STAND NOW WE DON'T SEE ANY OP SUGGESTION TO THE GARAGE PLAC PLACEMENT. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN ANYBODY'S MOUTH THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN OF DELAY OR IMPOSSIBILITY OF IF WE DID NOT PUT THE GARAGE UP THERE, WII SEE -- I CAN SEE THAT WOULD BE A HUGE ISSUE FOR US FROM MY PERSP PERSPECTIVE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE GENERALLY FEELING OVERALL OF THAT PARTICULAR PIECE.

>> YEAH. AS THE STAFF AS -- MENTIONED THIS IS A CHALLENGING SITE AS YOU'VE SEEN IN SOME OF THE PAST BILLIONTH BUILDINGS THERE -- BUILDINGS THERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DO WITH WHAT IS THE MOST SENSE OF THIS UNIQUE SITE.

THAT LOCATION IS PRETTY KEY TO ACHIEVING THAT.

>> B. SEITZ: I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

BUT KNOWING HAVING BEEN IN THIS QUADRANT OF WORTHINGTON FOR NEARLY 25 YEARS AND KNOWING WHERE THAT GARAGE WAS LOCATED ORIGINALLY FROM THE BUILDING IN THE 60S, I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS WITH THE LOCATION YOU HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE GARAGE NOW.

>> GREAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> B. SEITZ: KEEP IN MIND I'M ONE VOTE.

>> WE UNDERSTAND. >> C. CRANE: SO BOARD MEMBERS.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO TABLE THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE?

>> MADAM CHAIR I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS APPLICATION.

>> SECOND. >> C. CRANE: ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MAY SWRE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

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>> D. FALCOSKI: YES. >> YES.

>> M. COULTER: YES. >> B. SEITZ: YES.

>> C. CRANE: YES. THANK YOU.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE PLANS NEXT MONTH AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR ITEMS OF PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.