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>> ALL RIGHT. ARE WE STREAMING NOW?
>> I WITH LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS NOVEMBER 5TH, 2020 BOARD OF ZONING. WE ARE CONDUCTING OUR MEETING TO OUR LIVE STREAM TECHNOLOGY SO THE PUBLIC CAN OBSERVE THE MEETING AND COMMENT IF DESIRED. THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS IS MADE OF FIVE MEMBERS. A THREE-MEMBER VOTE IS REQUIRED FOR PASSAGE OF ANY ITEM. ALSO PRESENT IS MR. BROWN AND MS. BITAR. I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TO BE SWORN IN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. BOARD MEMBERS CAN COMMENT OR ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AT ANY TIME.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION AND IS ALREADY PART OF THE CALL WOULD THEN BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
FOR ANYONE WATCHING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WE WILL THEN PAUSE TO ALLOW THE VIDEO TO CATCH UP.
FOR ANYONE CALLING PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING AND YOU WILL BE SWORN IN BY CITY STAFF.
FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION.
THE APPLICANT MAY ASK THE BOARD TO TABLE YOUR APPLICATION AT ANY TIME DURING THE PROCESS. STAFF, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE
[B.1. Variance – Setback & Screening – 6625 Guyer St. (Schorr Architects/Worthingway Middle School) BZA 21-2020]
>> HERE. THE MNUTES FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 ARE PRESENTED FOR APPROVAL. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
IF NONE DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND A
>> SECOND. >> GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE.
>> I'M GOING WITH COULTER THE APPLICANTS ARE SHORE ARCHITECTS/WORTHINGLY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
BZA21-2020. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE
THIS FROM THE TABLE? >> SO MOVED.
>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND.
>> ALL TOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE AND CONSIDERING IT, SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> THE MOTION IS OFF THE TABLE.
STAFF, MAY WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
>> ARE YOU ALL ABLE T SEE THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW?
>> YES. >> AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, LAST YEAR IT WAS OCTOBER OF 2019. THE SCHOOLS CAME BEFORE YOU FOR A VARIANCE FOR A SETBACK FOR THE ADDITION OCCURRING OVER OB THE WEST SIDE OF THE SCHOOL. AT THAT TIME WE BROUGHT IT TO THE SCHOOLS THAT WITH THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING AND THE DRIVE AISLES THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO BEFORE YOU ALSO.
TO HAVE YOU REVIEW YOUR REQUIREMENTS FOR WHERE THE LOCATION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL DRIVES BUTTING UP TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND PARKING AND PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES. SO OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THE APPLICANTS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ON LAND BORN AND GUYIER TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM RELATED TO SCREENING FOR THEIR SITE. AS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE OUT
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THERE TODAY, THERE'S KIND OF A MIX OF HODGE-PODGE OF LANDSCAPING, DIFFERENT TYPES OF FENCES THROUGHOUT THE SITE.SO WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR PACKET AND THE MATERIALS BEFORE YOU SHOWS MIX OF LANDSCAPING. SAVING EXISTING LANDSCAPING AND FENCING PROVIDED ON THE SITE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE THE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET. BUT THIS IS OVER O THE GUYIER STREET SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WHERE THERE IS EXISTING PARKING LOT. PARKING SHOWS INCREASED LANDSCAPING ALONG THAT EASTERN EDGE AND WRAPPING AROUND THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHERN. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE SITE, THE AREA I SHOWED YOU JST NOW IS THIS AREA.
SO YOU SAW THE ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE TO THE REAR HOUSES ON GUYER AND WRAPPING TO THE NEIGHBORS AT 6605 P GUYER, WRAPPING AROUND THEIR SOUTHERN PIECE. AND GOING NORTH THERE'S MIX OF ADDING ADDITIONAL VEGETATION. OR ADDING VEGETATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING VEGETATION TO BE RETAINED ON THE SITE AND MOVING TOWARDS THE WEST, A MIX OF PLANTING MATERIALS AND FENCING ON TWO OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS THE AREA ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SITE.
AND AGAIN IF YOU ARE OUT THERE TODAY, IT'S A MIX OF CHAIN LINK, THE WHITE FIBER GLASS FENCES.
FOUR FOOT TALL PICKET FENCES. WHAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND PLAN, MIXTURE OF VARIETY OF LANDSCAPING MATERIALS, PROPOSED AS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS GOING ON AT THE SCHOOL.
WE HAD ASKED FOR AN UPDATE FROM THE SCHOOLS AND TE APPLICANT OF THEIR OUTREACH TO THEIR NEIGHBORS ON LANDBOURNE AND GUYER. WITH THE ADDITION ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL AND IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE, WE ADDED A LOT OF PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
AND DID SOME, THERE'S GOING TO BE RESTRIPING AND ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
SO AS PART OF THIS THEY ADDED 20 ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR PARKING AND YOU HAVE TEN PARKING SPACES HERE FOR BUSSES AS PART OF THIS IMPROVEMENT. SO AAIN, THIS IS WHAT YOU SAW IN OCTOBER WITH THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SCHOOL ADDITION THAT WENT BFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL.
IF YOU WENT IN THERE LAST YEAR THIS TIME.
THERE WAS A ONE WAY IN. PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE TOWARD THED GUYER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL.
SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT I FIRST SHOWED YOU STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT ON THE GUYER STREET SIDE.
THIS IS LOOKING TOWARD THE NEIGHBORS THAT IMMEDIATELY BACK UP TO THE PARKING AREA. --
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A SIX-FOOT FENCE ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE SITE, AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY AROUND, THERE'S A FOUR-FOOT HIGH WOOD PICKETFENCE. >> THAT CHAIN LINK WE SEE RIGHT THERE, GO BACK TWO SLIDES, PLEASE.
>> THIS IS FOR THE STORAGE. >> YEAH.
AND THEN GO BACK ONE MORE. SO THIS WILL BE REMOVED ONCE THE SCHOOL HAS FINISHED THEIR WORK.
>> GOT IT. >> GOING AROUND THE SITE, YOU HAVE AN EXISTING FOUR FOOT CHAIN LINK FINANCE HERE.
GOING AROUND TIS PROPERTY OWNER INSTALLED SIX FOOT, FIBER GLASS FENCING. GOING ALONG YOU HAVE SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE OR MAYBE A COME POSITE PENCE.
BACK TO CHAIN LINK. A BIT OF HODGE-PODGE BUT WITH MIXTURE THE VEGETATION AND WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE SCHOOLS WITH AND WITH THE FENCING THEY WILL BE INSTALLING FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WILL MAKE FOR A BIT OF A CLEANER LOOK. AGAIN YOU SEE THE WROUGHT IRON FENCING, THE ALUMINUM FENCING AS YOU WORK WUR YIE WEST.
>> SO THAT CURB WE SEE RIGHT THERE IS THE FINAL CURB
THIS WILL BE THE PLANTING BED FOR THE VEGETATION.
YOU WILL SEE ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING THROUGH HERE.
I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WILL ALSO HAVE A FENCE INSTALLED IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE ALL ALONG ON THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY.
A FEW SNAPSHOTS OF THE PARKING THEY ADDED.
THEY ADDED 20 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AS A RESULT O THIS PROJECT AND THEY ARE PROVIDING MORE PARKING THAN WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE BY CODE. THAT'S ALWAYS NICE.
I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ON GUYER. WHEN THERE WAS A FENCE AT THE SCHOOL, TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUES, PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, IT CREATES CONGESTION AND SAFETY ISSUES.
YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL WE FORWARDED YOU FROM A GENTLEMAN, ALEX, I WILL PROBABLY BUTCHER THE NAME, GERCHUCK, WITH THE SAME COMMENTS I JUST REFERENCED.
AGAIN WITH THIS PROJECT THEY ARE ADDING 20 ADDITIONAL SPACES PLUS 10 SPACES ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE FOR THE BUSSES.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SOUTHERN SITE OF THE SCHOOL.
I'M STANDING IN THE AREA THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE BUS PARKING AREA. THEN LOOKING SOUTH ON THE SITE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? AND THE APPLICANTS, I SAW THEM POP ON.
>> THIS IS A VARIANCE APPLICATION.
WHAT EXACTLY ISN'T IN COMPLIANCE?
>> WITH THE PARKING AND ACCESS AISLES BEING SO CLOSE TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE. A LOT WAS EXISTING FROM WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED.
WITH THE MODIFICATIONS OF ADDING PARKING ON THE NORTH AND ADDING THAT DRIVE AISLE AROUND. THE CONSTRUCTION WITH THE SCREENING RELATED TO THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING SPACES
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AND ACCESS AISLES NEED TODAY BE ADDRESSED.BUT A LOT OF THE AREA YOU SEE ARE EXISTING CONDITIONS YOU SEE TODAY. BUT WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
>> PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER PARKING THAT ANGLE TOWARD THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE. AND BECAUSE THE DISTANCE IS LESS THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED AND IT REQUIRES SOLID SCREENING.
THAT'S WHAT THE VARIANCE IS FOR. >> OKAY.
YOU SAID WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
COULD YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT, PLEASE?
MAKE SURE I HAVE MY CAMERA ON, ACTUALLY.
DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH, IF SO, SAY I DO. AND NAME YOURSELF.
>> I DO, PAUL MELENSHORE ARCHITECTS.
ADDRESS? >> DO WE NEED THE ADDRESS?
>> YES, PLEASE. 6080 LINWORTH ROAD,
WORTHINGTON, OHIO. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
>> I THINK LEE DID AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION THERE.
THE DISCUSSION WENT TOWARD THE END MANY OF THESE CONDITIONS ARE EXISTING CONDITIONS FROM THAT SITE.
THAT NORTHERN EDGE BOUNDARY TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE SAME PLACE.
THE ADDITION OF PARKING IN THAT NORTH AREA.
LINDA RAISED A GOOD POINT, WHAT KIND OF TRIGGERED THESE CONVERSATIONS. JEFF FROM THE DISTRICT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. WITH US TONIGHT.
MEETING WITH EACH OF THOSE NEIGHBORS AND BEING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SOLUTION THAT IS AMICABLE TO THEM.
MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM WE ARE CONTINUING THE FENCE THEY HAVE ON THE SIDE OF THEIR YARDS THAT IS INCONSISTENT NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES BUT THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FINISHED.
AND LANDSCAPE THAT SHOULD PROVIDE CONTINUITY FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SEE THIS AS AN ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALLEVIATING SOME OF THOSE
CHALLENGES TO THE SITE. >> THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE
APPLICANT? >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPREADSHEET THAT LISTS THE STATUS AND THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THAT AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. AT LEAST I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE EVERYBODY THERE, BUT AT LEAST THE FOLKS LISTENING THERE, IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER IN MY HEART AND SOUL THAT WE
ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. >> THAT'S ALL CREDIT TO JEFF WORTHINGWAY FROM WORTHINGTON SCHOOLS.
>> YOU WLL GIVE JEFF A BIG HEAD NOW.
>> STAFF, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER
VIA EMAIL OR TELEPHONE? >> WE HAVE THE EMAIL I MENTIONED FROM MR. PURCZEK ON GUYER STREET.
HE MAY JUST BE LISTENING IN, I THOUGHT WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO IS A RESIDENT ON GUYER, BUT I COULD BE MISTAKEN.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I SHOULD SAY FOR ANYONE WATCHING WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR COMMENTS, EMAIL PLANNING@WORTHINGTON.ORG OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. AFTER YOU GT THROUGH, YOU NEED TO HIT *6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU DO CALL.
ARE THOSE ON THE SCREEN, I ASSUME? THERE WE GO. NOW DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING TO COMMENT? DID YOU SAY?
>> I SAW A NAME. >> MR. AND MRS. BOWER, DID YOU
WANT TO PARTICIPATE? >> HI, THIS IS STEVE BAUER, 6590 GUYER STREET. NO COMMENTS.
THE PLAN LOOKS BETTER THAN IT DID.
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>> THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT IF WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE WAITING WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE WHILE THE STREAM CATCHES UP AND TO ALLOW PEOPLE A CHANCE TO CALL IN OR EMAIL
THEIR COMMENTS. >> HEY, LEE AND LYNDA, I DON'T SEE MR. COULTER ON THE CALL ANY LONGER.
>> HE WAS HAVING ISSUES SO I TOLD HIM TO LOG OFF JUST NOW AND LOG BACK IN. IT WAS FREEZING UP FOR HIM.
WE ARE WAITING FOR HIM TO JUMP BACK IN.
HE JUST JUMPED OFF. I TOLD HIM TO, TO SEE IF THAT WOULD HELP WITH HIS CONNECTION ISSUES.
>> OKAY. >> I MAY HAVE ACCIDENTALLY CALLED YOU LEE, SO IF YOU SEE YOU MISSED A CALL FROM ME.
NO HARD FEELINGS. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FOUR MONTHS AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE MUSIC.
>> THAT'S TRUE. >> HAS IT BEEN FOUR MONTHS?
>> TECHNICALLY LONGER. >> THIS IS OUR SEVENTH MONTH.
>> OH MY GOODNESS. >> TIME FLIES.
WE WILL AT LEAST BE CONTINUING THIS UNTIL JANUARY AND IT MAY EXTEND PAST THAT JUST DEPENDING ON THINGS PLAY OUT.
SO SHOULD I WAIT FOR MR. COULTER TO GET BACK BEFORE WE
RESUME? >> WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM.
>> YEAH, WE DO. >> HE IS THERE.
>> HE IS POPPING BACK IN. >> ALL RIGHT.
STAFF, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
I'LL CHECK BACK NOW WITH THE BOARD A TO WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND IF NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR BZA21-2020?
>> MADAM CHAIR I WILL MOVE THE REQUEST OFF SCHEUR BY WORTHINGWAY MIDDLE SCHOOLS, ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKING AND DRIVE AISLES AT 6625 GUYER STREET, BZA21-2020, DRAWINGS, BZA21-2020, DATED OCTOBER 27TH, 2020 BE APPROVED BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS IN THE STAFF MEMO
AS PRESENTED AT OUR MEETING. >> I'LL SECOND.
>> ACTUALLY, COULD I ASK FOR A CORRECTION? I JUST REALIZED THE BZA CASE NUMBER YOU REFERENCED I DIDN'T CHANGE FROM THEIR PREVIOUS. IT SHOULD REFERENCE, BZA45-2020.
IT'S NOT CORRECT. >> 21 IS CORRECT.
[C.1. Variances – Side & Rear Yard Setbacks – Shed – 386 N. Selby Blvd. (James Whalen) BZA 45-2020]
>> 21 IS CORRECT. SORRY ABOUT THAT, I'M LOOKING AT THE NEXT ITEM. I'M A DING DONG, SORRY ABOUT
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. STAFF, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL? >> I'M NOT SURE YOU TRUST ME RIGHT NOW. LAUGH -- [LAUGHTER]
>> IT'S BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> MOVING ONTO NEW ITEMS OF PUBLIC HEARING. OUR FIRST ITEM IS A VARIANCE FOR SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK FOR A SHED AT 386 NORTH SELBY BOULEVARD. THE APPLICANT IS JAMES WHALEN, CASE BZA45-2020. STAFF, WILL YOU HUFF-OH.
MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. >> SURE.
SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU, THIS IS THE 45-2020 ONE.
SORRY. IS FOR A VARIANCE TO DEVIATE FROM THE SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR A SHED.
AS YOU KNOW WHEN A SHED IS 120 SQUARE FEET AND UNDER, IT NEEDS TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THE SIDELINE AND FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. WE HAVE A LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SELBY. IT'S ONE OF OUR TINIER LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN 80 SQUARE FEET SHED, THREE FEET
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FROM THE SIDE AND NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.ONE OF THE THINGS TO SHARE WITH YOU ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU, THERE IS ACTUALLY AN EXISTING SANITARY SEWER LINE THAT RUNS EAST TO WEST THROUGHOUT CLEO HILLS.
AND THE CITY HAS AN EASEMENT IN THE REAR OF THESE YARDS IN THE REAR OF EIGHT FEET FOR SANITARY PURPOSES.
SO IF WE WOULD NEED TO GET INTO THE REAR OF THESE PROPERTIES WE HAVE EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO GO IN AND DO IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THAT SANITARY SEWER LINE. AS CAN YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, IN THIS SCREEN SHOT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE OTHER SHEDS LOCATED IN THIS SETBACK AREA AND IN THE CITY'S EASEMENT.
AND DURING RESEARCH COULD NOT FIND ANY APPROVAL FOR SEVERAL OF THESE, SO NOT REALLY SURE HOW THEY WERE INSTALLED.
WE HAVE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SELBY BOULEVARD. LOOKING AT THE SITE.
AND THEN AGAIN IN THE REAR, THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SHED.
ONE THING WHEN WE WERE OUT TAKING PICTURES WE REALIZE THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY POURED A CONCRETE PAD IN THE AREA THAT IS THREE FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, OR THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED.
THIS IS IN THE EIGHT-FOOT CITY EASEMENT FOR OUR SEWER SANITARY LINE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ENGINEER WITH THE SANITARY SEWER LINE RUNNING RIGHT ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND IN OUR EIGHT-FOOT EASEMENT, THE CITY ENGINEER WAS WILLING TO GO TO FIVE FEET FROM THAT SANITARY LINE.
FOR THE SHED VERSUS ACTUALLY PUSHING THEM OUT TO EIGHT FEET.
THEY WOULD STILL NEED A VARIANCE FOR THEIR SIDE YARD ON THAT WESTERN ELEVATION. BUT THE CITY ENGINEER WAS ASKING THAT IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES TO PUT THAT CONDITION ON IT, THAT IF THE CITY NEEDED TO GET INTO THIS TO DO ANY TYPE OF WRK WITHIN THAT EIGHT-FOOT EASEMENT IT WOULDN'T BE AT THE COST OF THE CITY T WOULD BE THE COST TO THE APPLICANT TO REMOVE THEIR SHED AND IN THIS CASE SINCE THERE'S A CONCRETE PAD INSTALLED THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AT THE APPLICANT'S COST.
HOWEVER, GOING OUT THERE AND SEEING THE CONCRETE PAD HAS ALREADY BEEN POURED, NOT BEING FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, IT MAKES THAT A LITTLE HARDER.
TO FIGURE OUT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS STILL TO HAVE IT FIVE FEET FOM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE WITH THE CONDITION THAT'S OUTLINED IN YOUR MOTION.
TO DO WORK THAT IT'S AT THE APPLICANT'S COST, NOT THE CITY'S. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE. >> CINDY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THAT CONCRETE PAD? THREE FEET, FIVE FEET, TWO FEET?
>> -- >> HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION FOR US.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? STAFF WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT, PLEASE?
>> SURE. DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH, IF SO, PLEASE SAY I DO.
>> I DO. >> THANK YOU, GIVE US YOUR NAME
AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> JAMES WHALEN.
386 NORTH SELBY BOULEVARD. >> THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
>> HE DID A GREAT JOB. THE CONCRETE PLAN, WE HAD PLANNED ON. WE HD THE DRIVEWAY AND PATIO POURED AS WELL. THE INITIAL PLAN WAS TO POUR THAT, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EASEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD IT POURED, TO SPEAK ON THAT.
BUT AS FOR HAVING IT THREE FEET FROM THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE, IT IS THREE FEET ON BOTH SIDES ALSO.
I KNOW THAT WAS ASKE WE WERE WANTING IT TO BE THREE FEET, OBVIOUSLY AESTHETICALLY, THE THREE FEET DOESN'T JUT OUT TOO FAR, PLUS WITH BOTH OF OUR NEIGHBORS ALREADY HAVING, THERE'S A LITTLE CLOSER. IT WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN
JUTTING INTO THE YARD. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
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THE APPLICANT? >> SORRY, MS. CRANE.
>> IT SHOWS THE CONCRETE PLAN FROM THE REAR AND SIDE YARD, IT'S AN 8 10 PAD. OF COURSE MY ASSUMPTION IS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. BROWN IS SAYING ABOUT, IF THE CITY REQUIRES ANY WORK TO BE DONE THERE, THAT'S ON YOUR DIME, NT
ON OURS. >> I FORGOT TO SPEAK ON THAT.
I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO MOVE THE SHED, IF THE CITY NEEDS TO GET IN THERE. OR MOVE EVERYTHING.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT YOU RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT JUST ASHED, IT'S ALSO
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN EMAIL PLANNING@ WORTHINGTON.ORG OR CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN AND HIT *6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU CALL.
STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WAITING TO COMMENT AT THIS TIME? OR IF WE HAVE RECEIVED ANY EMAILS?
>> NO, WE HAVE NOT. AND THERE'S NO ONE IN WAITING.
>> OKAY. IN CASE ANYONE IS WATCHING, WE WILL TAKE A PAUSE TO ALLOW THEM TIME.
>> HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS DURING OUR PAUSE?
>> I WILL CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS NOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, IF NOT DO I HAVE A
MOTION FOR BZA45-2020? >> YOU ARE ON MUTE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE REQUEST BY JAMES WHALEN FOR A VARIANCE FOR CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK TO CONSTRUCT A SHED AT 386 NORTH SELBY BOULEVARD, AS PER CASE, BZA45-2020, DRAWINGS NUMBER BZA45-2020, DATED SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020, BE APPROVED BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND FACTS O CONCLUSION IN THE STAFF MEMO AND PRESENTED AT THE MEETING, WITH THE CONDITION THAT IF THE CITY NEEDS TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE SANITARY SEWER IT WILL NOT BE AT A COST TO THE CITY IF THE SHED OR PAD NEEDS TO BE MOVED AND IT WILL BE FIVE FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL, PLEASE?
>> JUST A SECOND. >> WE ARE OKAY WITH THREE FEET SINCE THE PAD IS ALREADY THERE AND WE HAVE THE CONDITION, THE ENGINEER I THINK HE WOULD PREFER THE FIVE FEET, BUT ADDING THE CONDITION FOR THE, THAT IT'S AT THE COST OF THE APPLICANT AND HE IS AGREEING TO THAT, IT ALSO CARRIES FORWARD, HE SOLD THE PROPERTY IN FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS.
[C.2. Variances – Signage – Book Locker – 820 High St. (Worthington Public Library) BZA 46-2020]
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FROM FIVE FEET, TO THREE FEET. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. SECOND ITEM TONIGHT OF NEW BUSINESS IS A VARIANCE FOR SIGNAGE FOR A BOOK LCKER AT 820 HIGH STREET. THE APPLICANT IS THE WORTHINGTON PUBLIC LIBRARY. CASE IS BZA46-2020.
>> TO ALLOW PATRONS TO PICK UP MATERIALS IN LOCKERS, AFTER HOURS. HERE IS WHERE THEY ARE.
IT'S KIND OF ON THE SOUTH SIDE NEAR THE SOUTH ENTRANCE.
THESE ARE THE TYPE OF LOCKERS THEY CAN PUT THE MATERIALS IN ON THE INSIDE AND THEN PEOPLE CAN GET THEM OUT ON THE OUTSIDE AND THERE'S A KEY PAD TO TYPE IN A CODE THEY SEND YOU.
THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THIS IS ABSOLUTE.
IN ADDITION, I UNDERSTAND IT'S PRETTY COLD ON THE INSIDE FOR THE WORKERS. THEY ARE SWITCHING TO LOCKERS THAT ARE -- ONLY. AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE.
THE REASON IT'S BFORE YOU IS BECAUSE OF THE GRAPHICS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE LOCKERS.
THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD ALSO SAW THESE GRAPHICS AND FELT THEY WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS USE.
BUT BECAUSE THEIR BEING, IT BEING CATEGORIZED AS A SIGN, BECAUSE IT DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE SUIT, THEY NEED A VARIANCE FOR HAVING MORE THAN FOUR COLORS ON THE SIGN AND ALSO FOR THIS SCREEN, WHICH IS A VIDEO SCREEN.
SO IT'S AT LEAST IT'S MORE MODERN TECHNOLOGY AND WILL BE BETTER FOR THE STAFF AT THE LIBRARY AND FOR PATRONS.
>> NOW THERE'S TWO -- >> THESE ARE THE SIDES.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.
>> THESE ARE JUST THE SIGNS. AND THE ROOF STRUCTURE WILL HAVE BLUE FRAMING TO MATCH BUT THEN THESE PANELS ARE KIND OF A SHADED TYPE MATERIAL. SHADED LIKE PLEXI-GLASS.
>> IS THE APPLICANT HERE? WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT
AT THIS TIME? >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE WILL BE
>> THANK YOU. WILL YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF,
PLEASE. >> SURE, I'M MNICA BAUFMAN, DIRECTOR OF SERVICES FOR WORTHINGTON LIBRARIES.
MY ADRESS IS [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
>> I DON'T THINK SO OTHER THAN TO TELL YOU WE HAVE INSTALLED AND WRAPPED THE SAME UNIT AT OUR NORTHWEST LOCATION.
IT IS COMPLETELY DONE AND LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
THIS TECHNOLOGY ALSO ALLOWS US TO EXPAND.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALREADY BEYOND CAPACITY.
AND AS USE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, WE CAN'T ACTUALLY EXPAND THE NEW VERSION, THE CURRENT VERSION IS OBSOLETE AND WE
CAN'T ADD ONTO IT ANY FURTHER. >> THIS WILL BE THE SAME
LOCATION ON THE BUILDING? >> CORRECT.
WE WILL ROWE MOVE THE EXISTING LOCKERS, REPAIR THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR AND PUT THEM IN THE SAME ELECTION.
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>> IS THERE ANY LIGHTING PART OF THIS UNIT OR LIGHTING, WE HAVE A DRSED THE LIGHTING IN THE AREA AND INCLUDING REPLACING THE SOUTH ENTRANCE LIGHT AND ALL OF THE L.E.D. CAN LIGHTS ALONG THE EAVES TO BRIGHTEN UP THE AREA ALREADY.
>> THANK YOU. >> AND ALL THE WORK IS DONE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I THINK IT'S A FASCINATING SOLUTION. ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE. I KNOW MY KIDS ARE MISSING BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE LIBRARY AND THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION.
WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU CAN EMAIL PLANNING@WORTHINGTON.ORG OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN AND HIT *6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU CALL. STAFF, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER BY EMAIL OR TELEPHONE AT TIS
>> ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL PAUSE AND ALLOW THOSE WHO MAY WISH TO CALL IN OR COMMENT A CHANCE TO DO SO.
HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMENTS? ANYONE CALL IN OR SEND EMAIL
>> I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THE VIDEO SCREEN THERE.
WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE ON THAT AND ALSO
HOW BIG IS THAT SCREEN? >> THE INFORMATION THAT WILL BE ON IT, INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST A KEY PAD THAT'S HOW YOU ACTUALLY ACCESS THE LOCKERS. THE TOUCH PAD WILL HVE YOU PUT YOUR LIBRARY CARD NUMBER AND IT WILL TRIGGER THE LOCKER CODE.
I CAN CHECK TO SEE WHAT SIZE THE SCREEN IS.
>> LIKE A TABLET SIZE? >> I'M PULLING UP THE WEBSITE REALLY QUICKLY TO SEE WHAT THE SPECS ARE.
>> I'S NOT GOING TO HAVE VIDEO CONTENT ON IT.
THE ABILITY JUST LIKE THE SCREENS YOU HAVE INSIDE THE LIBRARY WHERE YOU CAN CHECK OUT BOOKS.
>> YEAH, IT'S NOT EVEN THAT BIG. >> BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR, IF NONE DO I HAVE
A MOTION FOR BZA 46-2020? >> I MOVE TOEN STALL NEW LOCKER WITH GRAPHICS AND VIDEO SCREEN
[C.3. Variance – Front Yard Setback – Fence – 1105 Beechview Dr. (Alainna Greene) BZA 47-2020]
>> I WILL SECOND. >> THANK YOU.
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STAFF, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?THANK YOU. >> NOW DOES THE OTHER LIBRARY THAT IS ALREADY DONE, DO THEY HAVE THE SAME GRAPHICS?
AND OUR LAST ITEM OF PUBLIC HEARING IS A VARIANCE FOR A FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR A FENCE AT 1105 BEECHVIEW DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS A ALAINNA GREEN.
>> IF YOU RECALL THE BOARD SOLD THIS PROPERTY TO IMPROVE UPON THIS APPROXIMATE LOCATION. IN THE FRONT YARD OF THIS PROPERTY AND THEY NEEDED A VARIANCE FOR THAT.
THIS REQUEST IS TO INSTALL A FENCE.
THEY HAVE ALREADY GOT IT INSTALLED ON THIS SIDE AND ACROSS THE BACK AND IT STARTS COMING DOWN THE TWO SIDE PROPERTY LINES. A FENCE AT THIS LOCATION, THAT WAS THEIR FIRST PREFERENCE. WHICH ENDS UP BEING RIGHT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. AS I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER, FENCES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE IN THE FRONT SETBACK AREA, SO THE REQUIREMENT IS TO BE 30 FEET BACK FROM THAT LOCATION.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OF THE POND WHEN IT WAS APPROVED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGER IN THIS AREA AND THEN THERE ARE SOME SMALLER LOTS AS WELL. BUT NONE OF THEM SEEM TO HAVE FENCING IN THAT LOCATION. SO EVEN AT 30 FEET BACK THIS WOULD BE UNUSUAL. BECAUSE TEY HAVE -- OH THIS IS THE STYLE OF FENCING, WHICH IS A CATTLE STYLE.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT POND AND THEN THIS AREA THAT ENDS UP BEING DRAINAGE AREA, THE 30-FOOT MARK IS IN A SPOT THAT ENDS UP BEING IN WATER, IT SEEMS. SO WE WERE HOPING TO PUT, IF NOT RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU THINK ABOUT NINE FEET BACK WHICH PUTS IT BEHIND THE STREET TREES TEY HAVE JUST PLANTED ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE VERY FEW FRONT YARD FENCES.
BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A BIG PROPERTY, LIKE I SAID, EVEN AT 30 FEET IT'S GOING TO APPEAR UNUSUAL.
BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS.
THEY ARE HOPING TO PUT IT RIGHT BEHIND THESE TREES BOTH HAD PLANTED THIS WHOLE AREA FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ENDS UP BEING WHEN THERE IS A HEAVY RAIN AND THEN IT DRAINS INTO THAT POND.
THAT'S FURTHER TO THE SOUTHEAST. WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT WAS FORWARDED TO YOU BY EMAIL AND I WILL NOT READ THE WHOLE THING.
HE JUST FELT LIKE THIS WAS, THIS VARIANCE SHOULDN'T BE GRANTED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN CAR #CARE CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO ENCLOSE THUR WHOLE PROPERTY WHICH IN TURN WOULD ENCLOSE THAT POND AREA. THEY HAVE A LARGE DOG THAT THEN COULD JUST ROAM AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S THE POND AREA. >> I BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY PHOTOGRAPHS TO SHOW OF HOW THE WATER COLLECTS IN THIS AREA.
WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS WOOD FENCE END UP IN THE SPOT THAT SITS IN THE WATER WHEN IT COLLECTS.
>> COULD YOU SHOW THE MAP WITH THE POND ON IT AGAIN.
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>> SURE. SO IS THAT IN THE FRONT?
>> IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE OUT OF THAT REQUIRED FRONT YARD.
BUT I THINK THAT PONDS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE SETBACK ISN'T REFERENCED FOR THAT REQUIREMENT.
JUST THAT THEY NOT BE IN THE FRONT YARD.
WHICH, ENDS UP BEING THE SIDE THAT'S NEAREST TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> DO WE HAVE ANY GOOD IMAGES SHOWING WHERE THE POND IS RELATIVE T THE FRONT AND THE
SIDE YARD? >> THIS IS STANDING IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND LOOKING TO THE SOUTHEAST.
THIS IS THAT ONE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE POND AREA. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> SO WATER COMES AROUND TO THE RIGHT OF THIS TREE.
>> WHAT W SEE IN THAT PREVIOUS IMAGE, THOSE ARE NOT PART OF
AND THERE'S A SOLID FENCE IN THIS AREA THAT THEY ITEND TO CONTINUE TO THIS LOCATION WHICH IS ABOUT AT THE 30-FOOT MARK.
>> SO HAD IS THE APPLICANT'S FENCE OR THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE.
>> I THINK IT'S THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE AND THEY ARE LOOKING -- LET'S ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.
>> GREAT IDEA. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME, PLEASE.
>> DO YOU SWEAR THAT YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING WILL BE
>> WILL YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> MY NAME IS ALAINNA GREEN, ADDRESS 1105 BEECHVIEW DRIVE
SOUTH. >> JOSH GREEN, 1105 BEECHVIEW
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
>> JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE ON WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THE LOT IS KIND OF GOOFY. OUR FRONT DOOR DOESN'T ACTUALLY FACE THE STREET. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A SIDE YARD. IS OUR FRONT YARD.
SO MOST OF THIS USABLE YARD IS THIS.
THE FENCE POST YOU SEE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OUR FENCE POSTS.
THE SOLID FENCE, THAT'S WHERE IT STOPS.
SO THE CATTLE FENCE WILL PICK UP THERE.
THE POSTS YOU SEE THAT AREN'T FINISHED IS WHERE THE CATTLE FENCE WILL START. WE DIDN'T FINISH THAT RUN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING TO END IT BASED ON THIS MEETING. WE KIND OF WANTED TO TALK TO STAFF AND THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT OUR BEST OPTION WAS.
IF WE GO TO THE 46 BACK INTO THE YARD, WHICH WOULD BE 16 FOOT OFF THE STREET, WHICH IS THE CITY'S EASEMENT AND 30 FEET BEYOND THAT, I LOOKS KIND OF GOOFY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD. WE STARTED WITH THE 16 FOOT BECAUSE WE HAD THE CITY PLANT THOSE TREES AND THAT'S RIGHT AT 16 FEET RIGHT AT THE CITY SETBACK.
THEN WE SAID OKAY, WELL PROBABLY CAN'T BE ON 16 FEET, LET'S GO TO 20-25. BUT IF WE GET AROUND THE 35 FOOT, WE ARE RIGHT WHERE THAT DRAINAGE TILE WAS, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THE FENCE POST THERE, AND SHE HAS A PICTURE
WHERE THE WATER FLOW. >> THE PIPE COMES FROM THE LINWORTH ROAD PRK, THROUGH OUR YARD, THROUGH THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD AND THEN THROUGH OUR YARD TO GET DOWN TO THE RIVER.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO HIT THAT PIPE.
KIND OF GOT THAT UNDER CONTROL. >> I KNOW IT'S UNTYPICAL TO HAVE THIS FENCE, I FEEL IF I GO THE 46 FOOT BACK IT WILL LOOK MORE GOOFY THAN BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
>> LYNDA AND LEE, CAN YOU GUYS PULL UP THE SITE PLAN WHERE, IN
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OUR PACKET IT SAYS THE BLUE LINE IS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE THE NEW CATTLE FENCE BUT WE HAVE BLACK AND WHITE RERNDINGS.SO THAT'S BLACK AND WHITE AS WELL.
>> THIS THICKER LINE. IT'S BLACK AND WHITE IN MY COPY
AS WELL. >> THAT LINE THERE THE 16 FOOT, RIGHT WHERE THE TREES ARE. THAT'S PIN-TO-PIN, 16 FOOT OFF
THE STREET. >> OKAY, SO A QUICK QUESTION.
WHEN I SEE THE SOLID FENCING, CAN YOU --
>> SOLID FENCING, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE MY FINGER.
>> YOU CN'T SEE MINE. SO WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT THERE, CAN YOU GUYS SEE WHERE MY POINTER IS?
>> YES. >> RIGHT IN THAT LOCATION.
>> THIS CORNER IS SOLID BACK THERE.
MR. SCALES, OUR NEIGHBOR, HE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS FENCE.
SO HIS IS SOLID BACK IN THAT CORNER TOO.
SO I JUST PICKED UP THE SOLID AND DID THAT TO KIND OF BLOCK OFF THIS HOUSE IN THAT CORNER AND THEN I WAS GOING TO PICK UP.
SO IT'S ONLY 20 FOOT OF SOLID AND THEN PICKS UP THE CATTLE FIELD TO TRY TO KEEP THE OPEN FIELD AS BEST WE CAN.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE POND WHERE YOU SEE THE
POSTS THAT ARE UNFINISHED? >> YEAH.
THAT SOLID SECTION. YOU SEE THE POND.
THE BLUE HOUSE IN THE CORNER, THE SOLID SECTION COMES THERE, TURNS LEFT AND TURNS LEFT AGAIN ON MY YARD.
OUR NEIGHBOR DID THIS SECTION. WE DID ABOUT ANOTHER 30 FOOT SECTION AND 20-FEET SECTION AND RIGHT THERE IT REGRESSES DOWN TO A FOUR-FOOT CATTLE FENCE THAT GOES RIGHT THERE.
THESE POSTS WILL BE CUT DOWN TO THE CATTLE FENCE.
>> SO THIS WILL BE THE END OF THE SOLID FENCE WHERE IT'S
>> OKAY. >> AND THE CATTLE FENCE WOULD START THERE. OKAY.
>> OUR NEIGHBOR, WHO WROTE THE LOVELY LETTER IS IN THE BACK CORNER AND KEEPS A LOT OF GARBAGE AND TIRES AND THINGS.
I KEPT THE BACK FENCE IN THE CORNER, HONESTLY DID NOT SEE THAT. I WAS PICKING UP THIS CATTLE
FENCE THROUGH THERE. >> SO THAT CATTLE FENCE IMAGE WE JUST SAW, IS THAT ON YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW?
>> SO THAT IS TE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN, SO ON THE RIGHT IS US.
ON THE LEFT OF THAT PICTURE IS PAT SCALES.
SO HE DID THAT SECTION OF CATTLE FENCE.
I JUST CONTINUED THAT STYLE. SO HE ACTUALLY DID THIS PART.
BUT IF YOU GO RIGHT WHERE THE PICTURE CUTS OFF TO THE LEFT, IT PICKS UP THE SOLID. BECAUSE HE DID A SOLID FENCE GOING DOWN TO THE BACKSIDE OF HIS LOT AND THE BLUE HOUSE AGAIN. HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE THE DEBRIS EITHER. WE ALL, WE KIND OF FENCED HIM
IN. >> THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE BROWN HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE THERE, THAT'S THEIR BACKYARD AND THEIR BACK PATIO.
BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK INTO OUR YARD EITHER.
WE PUT THE PRIVACY FENCE THERE. SO THEY HAVE SOME PRIVACY AS WELL. THAT HOUSE THERE.
THEIR PATIO IS RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
>> RELATIVE, THAT LAST POST IS PROBABLY LIKE 60 FOOT OFF THE STREET. SO I WOULD COME UP, IF WE DID 46 I WOULD COME UP A COUPLE MORE POSTS.
IF WE DID 46 I WOULD COME UP ONE MORE BEYOND THAT.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO STOP IT YET BECAUSE I WANTED TO
CONSULT THE BOARD. >> THERE ARE NO OTHER AREAS IN THIS AREA WHO HAVE A FENCE I THE FRONT YARD, CORRECT?
>> THERE'S A HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF VILLA AND BEECHVIEW.
THEY PUT THE FENCE IN BUT THEY ARE A GOOD TEN FOOT OFF THE STREET. THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY
RIGHT OF WAY. >> IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD A YEAR OR SO AGO. AND IT'S A CORNER LOT.
IT'S REALLY THE ONLY PROPERTY IN THE AREA THAT HAS ANY FENCING THAT CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PROPERTY, IT'S THIS ONE.
>> IT'S THE 5980. >> THEY WERE ONE OF THOSE BUILD AND THEN ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, I BELIEVE.
>> YEAH, RIGHT. THEY DID BUILD IT FIRST.
>> THEY HAVE A WHOLE CONCRETE THING THAT GOES ALONG.
FOR THE APOCALYPSE, THEY ARE READY.
>> THE FENCING REQUEST YOU HAVE BASED ON THE SETBACK IS GOING TO LOOK VERY COMPOUNDISH IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS A VERY OPEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
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I THINK THAT WAS PART OF, PERHAPS, THE DESIGN.AND IT WILL, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DRAMATICALLY ALTER THE LOOK OF THIS SECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF IT IS THAT FAR UP BY THE STREET. WITH THE SETBACK YOU ARE REQUESTING. TO ME, THAT IS VERY UNUSUAL.
>> YOU ARE CORRECT. TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT CLOSE, WILL BE THE ONLY THING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS LIKE THAT BEYOND THE OTHER HOUSE. THE OTHER HOUSE IS A CORNER LOT.
SO I UNDERSTAND. THIS WAS MORE LIKE, THIS FENCE WE WANT TO PUT IN, IF I DO IT ACCORDING TO CODE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE GOOFY LOOKING, MORE GOOFY LOOKING THAN IT WILL BE IF WE KIND OF MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE STREET.
>> CAN YOU GO TO THE PLAN THAT HAS THE DARK HEAVY LINE, PLEASE? THAT ONE. I'M LOOKING AT THAT.
WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE A PROPERTY LINE ON THE RGHT-HAND SIDE, IT COMES BACK. ALMOST PERPENDICULAR LINE FROM BEECHVIEW AND THEN IT HAS AN ANGLE IN IT.
AT THAT POINT, WHERE IT MAKES, YEAH.
RIGHT THERE. DO YOU KOW WHAT THAT DISTANCE WOULD BE? IF WE APPROVE THE FENCE.
>> GO BACK AGAIN TO THAT ONE, NOT THE MAIN PICTURE WITH THE UNFINISHED POST BUT THE ONE RIGHT AFTER THAT.
LET'S PULL IT UP SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
RIGHT THERE. >> SO IF YOU SEE.
BY THE MAILBOX. THAT POST RIGHT THERE IS THE END OF THAT BEND. SO IF YOU GO BACK WHERE THAT Y TREE IS, RIGHT BEHIND THAT TREE IS THAT PEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE FIRST JUMP.
SO THAT'S ABOUT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S ABOUT 30-35 FOOT OFF THE
STREET. >> I'M NOT COMFORTABLE STARTING
AT THAT BEND. >> IT'S ALSO I THE LOWEST PART OF THE VALLEY, TOO. BEING SO LOW, IT WOULD BE HARDLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AS WELL.
>> THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT. >> LET'S JUST BE CLEAR, IT'S
FOUR FEET TALL, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.
>> WHEN YOU ARE SITTING THERE IS LIKE A SIX-FOOT TALL.
>> THE SOLID FENCE IS. >> THE POSTS.
>> CORRECT. >> YOU SAID YOU WOULD CUT THESE DOWN TO BE THE LOWER CATTLE FENCE POSTS.
>> LYNDA, THAT IMANG YOU JUST HAD UP, I THINK SHOWS THE CATTLE FENCE, THE NEXT ONE, SORRY.
YEAH. YOU CAN SEE THE CATTLE FENCE IN
THE BACKGROUND THERE. >> MR. COULTER, IF WE GO BACK TO THE BIG THICK OUTLINE DRAWING .
YEAH, THANK YOU. SO IF WE LOOK AT, LYNDA, I KNOW YOU HAD YOUR CURSOR OVER THE BEND RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, RIGHT THERE. HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE RETENTION POND, RIGHT? I CAN SEE SOMETHING IN THERE.
AND THEN I THINK, IF WE MOVE ONE OR TWO PLANS, OR IMAGES AHEAD, IT SHOWS UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>> SEE THAT RETENTION POND. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE.
ARE WE IN FRONT OF IT AT THAT POINT?
>> IF YOUR CURSOR GOES TO THAT, RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S WHERE THAT Y-TREE IS. THAT'S THE POINT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S ABOUT 30-FOOT BACK FROM THE STREET. SO THAT WOULD BE 14-FEET.
>> THAT WOULD BE 14 HUFF FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
>> CORRECT. >> FROM THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY.
TOTAL OF 30 FEET FROM THE STREET.
>> SO AT WHAT POINT IS A VARIANCE NOT REQUIRED?
>> IT WAS 30 FEET FROM THIS LINE.
SO IF THIS IS 14-FEET. PERHAPS IT NEEDS TO BE BETWEEN
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THE TREE AND THE POND. AND IT'S ON THE DOWNWARD SLOPE SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT AS MUCH FROM THE STREET.UNTIL YOU GET OVER CLOSER TO THE DRIVE.
>> YEAH. SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW DOES IT WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR DRIVEWAY?
>> SO THERE'S NO PICTURES OF THAT IN HERE.
BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
FOR WHAT YOU SEE, THERE'S UNFIRNED POSTS.
YOU CAN'T SEE I FROM THAT PICTURE.
>> I THINK I HAVE. >> THERE'S OTHERS DOWN THE
DRIVE. >> YOU SEE WHERE THOSE PINES ARE, THE SMALL PINES ON THE LEFT.
THERE'S ALREADY HOLES AND IT WOULD CUT ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY.
>> SO IF IT WERE 30 FEET, IT WOULD BE OUT TO 30 FEET FROM THE STREET. IT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF WHERE
IT WOULD BE ABOUT THERE. >> THEY PLAN TO HAVE A GATE ACROSS THERE. ACROSS THE DRIVE.
>> YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY -- WHEN WE REDID THE HOUSE EIGHT YEARS AGO, THERE'S ACTUALLY ELECTRIC OUT THERE ALREADY FOR AN AUTOMATED GATE. JUST IN CASE.
>> GRUBHUB, MAN. THEY NEED TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE.
>> GET MY FOOD DELIVERY. >> I PROBABLY WOULD RECOMMEND TOO EEN WHEN WE GET TO THE GATE, WE MIGHT DO ANOTHER, WHERE EVER THIS LIES MAYBE DO ANOTHER ARB BECAUSE THAT COULD HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIETIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO RESCHEDULE SOMETHING FOR THE
GATE. >> YOU ARE SAYING IT WILL LOOK
DIFFERENT? >> NO, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO DO IT YET, AND IT'S NOT ON THE PERMIT SET.
GIVEN WE ALL HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE COMPOUND-ISH NATURE OF IT. I THINK WITH A NICER GATE IT WOULD BE BETTER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO, IF IT MATTERS AT THIS POINT. BUT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO ANOTHER DESIGN MEETING, ARB MEETING ABOUT THE GATE.
>> SO LYNDA COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT BIG THICK HEAVY LINE DRAWING. [CHUCKLES] YEAH, SO. IF WE LOOK AT COMING OFF THE BEND BY THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVE, YEAH.
MY QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW FAR BACK CAN WE GO.
THEN WHERE WOULD THE 30-FOOT LINE BE SO THE VARIANCE THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR. WE UNDERSTAND, SO IF THEY COME OFF THAT ANGLE, LYNDA, RIGHT. WE AE COMPWOING -- GOING TO HAVE SOME WEIRD SHADED AREA. WHAT POINT DO THEY NOT ENCROACH IN THE SETBACK THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF US ANY LONGER. THE PROPERTY LNE IN BETWEEN,
YEAH, RIGHT THERE. >> THIS IS ABOUT THIRTY FEET.
>> WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER 16 BACK INTO THE YARD.
>> ABOUT THIS LOCATION. >> RIGHT.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO HELP OUT HERE IS KIND OF READING THE TEA LEAVES VRTUALLY HERE WITH MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
WHAT WILL BE THE EASIEST PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE FOR YOU FWIES -- GUYS WHERE YOU THINK YOU CAN LAND IN ORDER TO
GAIN APPROVAL TODAY? >> THE 30 FEET, I'M OKAY WITH.
IF WE WANT TO GO FROM THAT TREE AND MEASURE AND KEEP THAT SCOOP ALL THE WAY ACROSS. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
>> WHEN HE IS TALKING 30 FEET, HE MEANS FROM THE EGE OF THE STREET. THAT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 14 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. WHAT I WAS SHOWING IS 30 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S WHERE NO VARIANCE.
>> NO VARIANCE WOULD BE NEEDED. >> ALSO DOING THAT NO VARIANCE AT THAT SPOT, LYNDA, WE MEASURED AND THAT'S LITERALLY RIGHT WHERE THAT PIPE WOULD BE. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO ANOTHER
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FIVE FEET UP INTO THE YARD. >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BEYOND
THE REQUIRED SETBACK- >> CORRECT.
>> TO HAVE IT WORK. >> PLUS OR MINUS, RIGHT.
>> ARE THERE EASEMENTS ON THAT PIPE WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF?
>> IS THERE WHAT? >> AN EASEMENT ON THAT DRAINAGE
PIPE WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. >> I WISH THERE WAS.
>> I DON'T THINK SO. BECAUSE IT WAS DONE PRIVATELY
AND IT IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. >> OKAY.
>> THERE'S NO EASEMENT. WE TALKED TO STEVE ABOUT IT.
WE'VE TRIED. >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IN THIS
>> WHERE THE LEAVES ARE COLLECTED.
>> SO I FEEL LIKE I'M ALWAYS THE GUY ASKING FR A TABLE TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BENEFIT TO GETTING SOME REAL DIMENSIONS ON SOME OF THESE SKETCHES TO HELP THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MORE EDUCATED DECISION.
>> DO YOU HAVE THOSE? >> CAN YOU PUT SOMETHING
TOGETHER REAL QUICK? >> WHY DON'T YOU SHOW THOSE.
>> DO I HIT SHARE CONTENT AT THE TOP?
>> YEAH, IT'S JUST A BOX WITH AN ARROW IN IT.
SHARE CONTENT. >> SO THIS ONE HERE IS ONE OF THEM. THIS IS ME STANDING IN THE STREET. WE MADE LITTLE SIGNS THAT SAY 16, 25, 45 AND 46 ARE THOSE THREE POSTS BACK.
>> SO THOSE ARE THE DISTANCES FROM THE STREET.
SO THIS WOULD MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT BEING 30 FEET OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY. THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF WAY
BUT WHERE AM I LOOKING? IS THIS DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
>> FROM THE STREET LOOKING UP TOWARD THE HOUSES HERE.
>> SO THE FIRST SIGN, THE 16 FOOT, THAT IS THE DARK SHADED BLACK LINE? THAT IS THE EASEMENT.
>> YEAH. >> YOU KIND OF FOLLOW BACK FROM THERE. IT'S NOT THE BEST, BUT WE TRIED.
>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ONES IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM TOO.
>> YEAH, LET'S SCROLL THROUGH. >> SORRY, I HAD ALL THIS STUFF OPEN. SO HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
I'M STANDING IN THE STREET. YOU COULD SEE THE SIGN, THE POND IS IN THE BACKGROUND BY THE BIG TREE.
>> I'M NOT SEEING A DIFFERENT PICTURE.
>> TRY TO CLOSE AND SHARE AGAIN. >> YOU GOT TO DUMP IT INTO THE
>> MADAM CHAIR MAN, WHILE THEY WERE DOING THAT, I WANT TO SHOW YOU, FRANKLIN COUNTY HAS AN UPDATED AERIAL THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE POND. OF COURSE IT JUST DISAPPEARED.
>> OH, SORRY. >> YU GUYS ARE COMPETING ON
SHARES. >> I SEE LITTLE THUMB NAILS.
>> LET'S FINISH WITH THEIR PICTURES AND THEN WE WILL SEE.
>> CLICK ON THE FENCE 5. >> YEAH.
OPEN THAT ONE UP BIGGER. ALAINNA?
>> OH, ME? IS THAT BIGGER NOW?
>> NO. YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SHARE TRAY AND CLICK ON THE OTHER WINDOW THAT OPENED UP.
>> OPEN UP FIRST AND THEN WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE SHARE.
>> I WILL CLOSE EVERYTHING AND TRY AGAIN.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD SHARE MY WHOLE SCREEN WITH YOU GUYS.
>> IT WON'T LET ME. >> THAT'S JUST THE PICTURE OF THAT, YOU NEED TO DUMP IT INTO WHATEVER SHARE YOU HAVE.
>> WHERE IS THE SHARE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND?
>> GO BACK UP NEXT TO LEAVE. >> OKAY, SO I HIT THAT.
>> THE BOX WITH THE LITTLE ARROW.
>> IT SHOWS ME AT THE BOTTOM ALL THESE DIFFERENT WINDOWS I
CAN SHARE. >> YEAH, PICK ONE OF THEM.
>> PICK THE ONE THAT HAS YOUR IMAGE IN IT.
>> ITHINK I HAVE TO OPEN IT HERE FIRST.
WHY DOESN'T IT SHARE UP HERE. >> HOW DID YOU GET THESE FILES
INTO HERE? >> BECAUSE THEY WERE OPEN.
I HAD THEM OPEN ON MY DESKTOP. >> WHY DON'T WE LET LEE DO
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THESE THINGS AND I HAVE YOU EMAIL THEM TO ME AND TRY TOSHARE THEM ON MY END. >> SO HERE IS FROM THE COUNTY AUDITORS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE POND.
AND THE PHOTO. ROTATE IT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A DIFFERENT ANGLE. HERE IS BEECHVIEW COMING AROUND.
HERE IS THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THERE'S THAT JOG IN THE PROPERTY LINE GOING DOWN TOWARDS THE POND ON THE
SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. >> SO THE POND IS NOT LIKELY TO BE INTERFERING WITH THE FENCE OR VICE VERSA.
>> IF WE GO BACK FURTHER. >> YOU THINK THE WATER COMES THIS WAY, WRAPS AROUND THAT TREE, GOES THROUGH THERE AND
CAN COME THROUGH THERE. >> YEAH.
THE APPLICANT HAD A PHOTO THAT SHOWED WHERE THE WATER IS.
I'M SO CURIOUS TO SEE THAT. >> I HAVE LOTS.
I HAVE A WHOLE FOLDER. I CAN TRY TO SHARE AGAIN.
I THINK I MAYBE FIGURED IT OUT. >> G AHEAD.
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A MINUTE ANYWAY.
>> YEAH, IT'S NOT WORKING. BECAUSE IT KEEPS SHOWING THE
ONE FILE THAT I HAD. >> HW DID YOU GET THOSE FILES
INTO THERE? >> I HAVE NO IDEA.
THEY JUST WENT TO THERE. >> LYNDA, DID YOU HAVE SOME --
>> WHAT IS THAT? >> DID YOU HAVE SOME PHOTOS?
>> THERE WE GO. >> I DO, BUT I CAN ONLY GET ONE AT A TIME. SO HERE IS ONE.
>> THAT'S THE ONE WE SAW, I THINK.
>> IT'S SIMILAR BUT BETTER PERSPECTIVE.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK SO YOU CAN SEE.
THE HUSE IS HERE. >> WE ARE STANDING RIGHT NOW LOOKING IN BETWEEN THE APPLICANT'S DRIVEWAY AND THE
NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY? >> CORRECT.
>> THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
ON BEECHVIEW, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.
>> YEAH. >> AT WHAT POINT IS A VARIANCE
NOT REQUIRED? >> THE FURTHEST SIGN.
>> OKAY. >> STILL LOOKS LIKE IT LEAVES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF YARD COVERED WITHIN THEIR FENCED
THE YARD IS BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE. >> BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO
FURTHER. >> BUT WE WULD HAVE TO JUMP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE.
EVEN IF WE DID, YOU ARE RIGHT, WE STILL HAVE MORE THAN NORMAL-SIZED YARD. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A FENCE RUNNING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD.
>> WE HAVE THE WHOLE ROW OF TREES, WE THOUGHT IF THE FENCE WAS CLOSER TO THE TREES THE LINES WOULD BE TOGETHER.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SO MANY CHOPPY BREAK-UP LINES.
>> THERE ARE TREES ALL OVER WORTHINGTON AND WE DON'T ALLOW FENCES RIGHT BEHIND THEM. YOU HAVE TO SETBACK YOUR FENCE.
>> RIGHT. >> I UNDERSTAND THE SETBACKS AND WHY WE DON'T DO FENCES IN WORTHINGTON.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE THESE FENCES OUTRIGHT OFF THE STREET.
AND NORMALLY THE SETBACKS ARE USUALLY INDICATIVE OF WHERE THE HOUSE LIES, NOT SO MUCH THE FENCE OFF THE STREET.
WHEN WE STARTED MAPPING IT OUT, WE THOUGHT IT LOOKED SILLY SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TRY TO GET IT A LITTLE CLOSER.
>> I'M SO CURIOUS TO SEE THAT WATER SHOT.
>> THE STREET TREES. AND HERE IS THE WATER.
>> SO OUR FENCE WOULD COME RIGHT THROUGH ALL THAT WATER.
WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO CLOSER TO 55 OFF THE ROAD TO MISS THAT PIPE THERE THAT IS SHOOTING OUT THE WATER.
>> WHAT PIPE IS SHOOTING OUT THE WATER?
>> SO IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, WHERE THAT CURSOR IS.
THERE IS A PRIVATE LINE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH ALL THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY ALL BUSTED UP. AND WORTHINGTON DOESN'T WANT IT, PERRY DOESN'T WANT IT, COLUMBUS DOESN'T WANT IT, BECAUSE IT'S ALL BROKEN. THERE'S ACTUALLY A PIPE THAT
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GOES UNDERNEATH MY DRIVEWAY AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY IS A CATCH BASIN. THE CATCH BASIN IS NOBODY'S TO CLAIM. IT TIES IN THE LINWORTH CROSSING. SO WHEN IT GOES THERE, IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH AND IT'S BROKEN. IT GOES ABOVE THE GROUND.I PUT THAT PIPE SO WHEN THE CATCH BASIN FILLS UP, IT DUMPS, SO THAT WAY MY DRIVEWAY DOESN'T BECOME A DAM AND FLOOD MY
NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. >> SO LYNDA, CAN YOU RUN YOUR CURSOR ALONG THE APPLICANT'S DRIVEWAY I SEE RIGHT THERE? YES. SO, YOU CAN SEE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE T DO IS GO BACK TO THE PLAN AND SHOW WHERE THAT PIPE IS. AGAIN, WE --
>> IT'S RIGHT ABOUT HERE, RIGHT? >> YEAH.
>> FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR SITE ONE THAT LEE HAD, IT MIGHT BE
EASIER TO TELL FROM THERE. >> SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS NOT AN APPLICANT LOOKING TO FENCE IN MAXIMUM YARDAGE, SO THEIR DOG CAN RUN FREE. WE ARE LOOKING AT AN APPLICANT THAT IS IN FRONT OF U ASKING FOR A VARIANCE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT A FENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT FLOOD.
>> YES. >> WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M COMFORTABLE PUTTING TE FENCE WHERE I SUGGESTED WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE MAKES THAT CLIP, BECAUSE IT KEEPS IT BACK OUTSIDE OF THE POND AND OUTSIDE OF TE LAKE
>> ALL I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE. I UNDERSTAND THE POINT WHERE THE CROOK IS, WHERE LYNDA'S CURSOR OR SOMEBODY IS POINTING THERE. ALL I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE, WHERE DOES IT MEET, WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT TO MEET THE DRIVEWAY SO THE APPLICANT CAN GET A GATE IN HOPES OF BEING NOT WITHIN A LOCATION THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AGAIN FOR A VARIANCE. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET IT FURTHER BACK? BUT RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE DRAWINGS WE ARE SEEING, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT WATER STARTS AND WHERE THAT WATER STOPS. BUT I THINK I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP THE REST OF THE BOARD UNDERSTAND WHY. THIS ISN'T A NORMAL APPLICANT SAYING LOOK I WANT TO BUILD A COMPOUND.
THIS IS AN APPLICANT SAYING I'VE GOT A WATER PROBLEM.
>> THAT'S A GOOD ANGLE. >> I WANT A FENCE BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT A FENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE THIS WATER IS.
>> SO ARE YOU THINKING THEN, IF WE START AT THE 30-FOOT WHERE THE TREE IS, WHERE THE BEND IS, AND YOU ARE THINKING CUT IT BACK AT AN ANGLE TO THEN MEET THE 30-FOOT SETBACK?
>> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SO YOUR VARIANCE REQUEST BECOMES MINIMIZED ON THAT SOUTH SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY VERSUS
THE NORTH SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY. >> OKAY.
THAT'S NOT A TERRIBLE IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD FALL ON THE DRIVEWAY. MY KNEE-JERK REACTION IS WHERE EVER WE DECIDED WAS TE BEST LOCATION FR THE FENCE AND SETBACK, I WOULD CONTINUE THAT DIMENSION FROM THE STREET, ALL THE WAY ACROSS. BUT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT CUTTING IT BACK MORE AT AN ANGLE TO MEET BACK TO THE
30-FOOT. >> WE TRY NOT TO DESIGN FOR YOU BUT GVEN OUR CURRENT CLIMATE, THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING.
IF WE CAN COME OFF, LET ME SEE IF WE CAN COME OFF THIS POINT AND WHERE EVER IN YOUR DRIVEWAY WE GET BEYOND THE SETBACK LINE, THAT BECOMES THE POINT WHERE YOUR CATTLE FENCE CAN GO.
>> I MEAN, NO MTTER WHAT WE DO WE WILL STILL CROSS THAT GULCH THERE. AND PROBABLY WHERE THE VECTORS MEET YOU WILL CROSS THAT PIPE, PROBABLY RIGHT THERE.
>> THE BLACK PIPE THAT SHOOTS OUT ABOVE GROUND IS ONLY A COUPLE INCHES UNDERGROUND. THE OTHER IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER UNDERGROUND. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE
TO CROSS-OVER. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE THE 30-FOOT. I CAN PROBABLY BRING IT BACK FURTHER BUT IF I DON'T DO THE 30-FOOT WHAT IS THE POINT.
DOING THE ANGLE. A VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE.
>> I WOULD STAY PARALLEL WITH THE PROPERTY LINE COMING OFF
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THAT CREEK. IT MAKES IT SIMPLE, MAKES ITEASY, IT'S MORE CONSISTENT. >> MIKEL, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS WHETHER THE REST OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS
ARE OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL. >> WHAT'S THE CONCERN WITH THE GATE? I MEAN IF IT'S IN THE SETBACK YOU WILL HAVE TO COME HERE FOR A VARIANCE.
IF IT'S 30 FEET FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU WILL NOT.
NOT 30 FEET FROM THE STREET. I THINK WE ARE MAYBE GETTING THESE 30-FEATS A LITTLE BIT MIXED UP.
ARE YOU TRYING TO POSITION THE GATE WHERE YOU WON'T NEED TO
COME BACK TO GET A VARIANCE? >> NO.
I HAVE EVERY INTENTION ONCE WE GET TO THE GATE PART, WE WOULD APPLY AGAIN AND ASK FOR A PERMIT FOR THAT AND DEAL WITH
THE VARIANCE AT THAT POINT. >> I GUESS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT, UNDERSTAND WHY. >> MAKE IT THE SAME LINE AS THE
FENCE AND CALL IT A DAY. >> WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD TO
COME BACK FOR THE GATE. >> IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PART
OF A FENCE. >> WE ARE COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT. WE WOULD KEEP IT IN LINE.
>> LET'S KEEP IT EASY. >> OKAY.
>> SORRY, WE DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
>> BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PROPOSED FENCE IS GOING TO BE POSITIONED AT THIS POINT. OR IS PROPOSED TO BE POSITIONED.
>> WHAT IS THAT? >> WHAT IS THE DISTANCE?
>> THE DISTANCE IS WHATEVER THIS IS.
[LAUGHTER] >> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 35 -- 30 FEET. WHEN WE WERE MEASURING TODAY.
>> 30 FEET FROM THE STREET, 14 FEET FROM THE EASEMENT.
>> ENOUGH TO GET A VEHICLE IN THERE.
>> AND IS THAT DRAWING SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AS A FINDING OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS AND MATERIALS PRESENTED AT THE MEETING?
>> I KNOW THAT. BUT IS IT HUFF HUFF
>> WELL TO YOUR POINT I CAN PUT IT ANYWHERE AND SAY YOU APPROVED IT. JERRY WILL HAVE TO COME OUT AND APPROVE IT SO HE WILL SEE WHAT THE DISTANCE IS.
>> A MEASUREMENT FOR THAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE AT THE SAME MEASUREMENT OR FARTHER IN BUT NO CLOSER TO THE STREET
THAN THAT MEASUREMENT. >> OKAY.
I MEAN IT'S A LITTLE MORE VAGUE, YOU MUST ADMIT THAN WE USUALLY LIKE TO SEE OUR DRAWINGS.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU COULD DRAW THAT UP AND STAMP IT AS APPROVED, IF THAT'S
WHAT YOU APPROVE. >> AND LYNDA, IF YOU WANT, I CAN RUN OUT IN THE MORNING WHEN IT'S LIGHT AND MEASURE IT AND GUF YOU AN EXACT MEASUREMENT IF YOU WANT IT.
>> THAT'S OKAY, AS LONG AS WE ALL AGREE ON WHERE THAT POINT
IS, WHICH I THINK WE DO. >> ALL RIGHT.
WELL, WE ARE. I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. WHICH, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A WHILE BUT WE DO STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYONE AT THE MOMENT WAITING TO COMMENT? WE DO HAVE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE ONE LETTER FROM MR. GAZARA THAT IS ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. DID EVERYONE RECEIVE THAT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THAT LETTER? IF THERE'S NO ONE WAITING, WE WILL TAKE OUR PAUSE FOR EVERYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING AND WANTS TO COMMENT.
YOU CAN EITHER EMAIL AT PLANNING@WORTHINGTON.ORG OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN AND PRESS *6 TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
AND WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE NOW.
>> THINKING ABOUT THE MOTION AND HOW YOU CRAFT A MOTION.
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT UNLESS WE ING LIST.
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STAFF, HAVE WE HAD ANYONE CALL OR EMAIL WITH COMMENTS AT THIS>> BOARD MEMBERS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.
WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF THAT THEY THE MOTION MODIFY THE APPLICATION. IT DOES REQUEST -- WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. IN THAT CASE, DO I HAVE A MOTION REGARDING CASE NUMBER BZA 47-2020?
>> SO MADAM CHAIR, I WILL MOVE THAT THE REQUEST BY ALAINNA GREEN FOR VARIANCE BY CODE REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW FOR INSTALLATION OF A FENCE AND THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD AT 1105 BEECHVIEW DRIVE AS PER CASE BZA47-2020 DRAWINGS NUMBER BZA 47-2020 DATED OCTOBER 8TH 2020 BE APPROVED BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS IN THE STAFF MEMO
AS PRESENTED IN OUR MEETING. >> DO YOU WANT TO ADD AN AMENDMENT THAT SHOULD START BACK AT THE CROOK?
ON THE PROPERTY LINE? >> I THOUGHT THAT WHAT LYNDA JUST IMPLIED INCLUDED, BASED ON THE FNDINGS AND FACT IN THE STAFF MEMO AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETING.
>> I THINK WE JUST NEED TO SAY WHERE IT IS.
>> CAN WE USE CROOK AS A -- >> THERE IS A PIN THERE.
THERE I ATUALLY A PIN RIGHT THERE.
>> LIKE A LOT PIN. >> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
REFERENCE TO THAT. >> LYNDA IS GOING TO HAVE A COPY OF YOUR DRAWING, CORRECT? AND YOU CAN CIRCLE WHERE THE
PIN I, I GUESS. >> EVERYTHING IS BEING RECORDED ACCORDING TO THE INDICATOR AT THE TELEPATHY HUFF-TOP OF MY SCREEN HERE. I GUESS I DIDN'T WANT TO REFERENCE A CROOK IN THE LOT LINE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO REFERENCE A PIN NUMBER WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT PIN NUMBER THAT IS. WHICH IS WHY I WAS ASKING HOW DO WE, I HEARD LYNDA SAY WE ARE GOOD TO GO AS WE ARE.
THAT'S MY MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU
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