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WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL

[6.A. Ordinance No. 38-2019 Appropriation - Electric Vehicle Charging Stations]

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I AGAIN, WAS IND OF THE PROJECT MANAGER BUT WE HAVE GENE OLIVER,

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THE I.T. DIRECTOR WHO IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS WELL AS CONLY FROM OHIO.

HE'S BACK TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

A QUICK REVIEW OF THE PROJECT TIMELINE.

IN FEBRUARY, WE WERE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL THAT THIS WAS A PRIORITY FOR 2019. WE STILL HOPE TO GET THIS DONE BY THE END OF 2019. MARCH QUEENS FIELD, OHIO, WE PRESENTED IN JULY OF 2019 AND DIRECTED AT THAT TIME, DON'T WAIT, APPLY FOR THE REBATE PROGRAM.

WE APPLIED FOR THE REBATE PROGRAM THIS SUMMER.

WE WERE AWARDED FUNDING IN SEPTEMBER.

WE ARE SEEKING THE APPROPRIATION THIS EVENING AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THESE INSTALLED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT SCOPE.

WE WERE TO CONDUCT A MARKET ANALYSIS, EVALUATE THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY, SELECT THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, IDENTIFY THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR THE CHARGERS, APPLY FOR THE REBATE, IDENTIFY THE COST STRUCTURE, WHICH WE NEED TO DO.

AND I WILL POSE THAT QUESTION AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

AND ACQUIRE AND INSTALL THE STATIONS.

A COUPLE OF SLIDES YOU HAVE SEEN ALREADY.

CLEAN FIELDS OHIO PRESENTED THIS.

A RAMP-UP BOTH NATIONALLY INFRACT AND WORTHINGTON THE LAST THREE YEARS, THIS IS BMV INFORMATION.

YOU CAN THE UMBER OF REGISTERED VEHICLES CONTINUES TO RISE.

ANOTHER QUICK LOOK AT THE MARKET ANALYSIS, JUST THE KEY TAKE AWAY HERE IS THAT APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF A PERCENT OF THE MARKET SHARE WILL BE EV BY 2030. FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

WHEN WE CONTRACTED CLEAN FIELDS OHIO TO LOOK INTO THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY. THE LEVEL TWO STATIONS WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO APPLY FOR, NO FUNDING AVAILABLE.

WE PIVOTED AND UPGRADED TO THE LEVEL THREE, THE DC FAST CHARGERS. THERE WERE DOLLARS AVAILABLE, CAPPED AT $100,000 PER SITE. WE APPLIED FOR TWO LOCATIONS.

ONE IN OLD WORTHINGTON AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE LOCATION AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY CENTER. EACH LOCATION INDIVIDUALLY IS ELIGIBLE UP TO $100,000. EACH CAME IN JUST ABOVE $80,000 THAT INCLUDED ACQUISITION, INSTALLATION, AND ALL APPLICABLE FEES SO THE TOTAL REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE APPROPRIATION WAS JUST UNDER $165,000. LOCATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

AGAIN, WE TOOK A L L LOOK AT THE LEVEL II CHARGES, PIVOTED TOWARD THE LEVEL THREE. YOU CAN SEE THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER, ALL COSTS ARE COVERED, AS WELL AS OLD WORTHINGTON. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS OLD WORTHINGTON WE DO NEED TO UPGRADE A UTILITY POLE AND MITER SO THE COST CAME IN SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER ELIGIBLE PROJECT COSTS WERE.

HERE'S LOCATION ONE, THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE CITYWIDE CONTRACT WITH EV UNITED.

WE HAVE A DRAFT PROPOSAL WAITING ON THE APPROPRIATION, EV UNITED IS TEED UP AND READY TO GO, TO ORDER THE CHARGERS, HAVE THEM DELIVERED. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 30-DAY DELIVERY TIMEFRAME. WITHIN 30 DAYS OF US SIGNING THE CONTRACT WITH EV UNITED WE WOULD HAVE THE CHARGERS DELIVERED.

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SECOND LOCATION IS OLD WORTHINGTON.

THIS IS BEHIND THE OLD BAG OF NAILS IN THE MUNICIPAL LOT OFF WEST NEW ENGLAND. WHERE THE RED CIRCLE IS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS CURRENTLY A HANDICAP SPOT.

IT WOULD MOVE OVER TWO. THOSE TWO SPOTS WOULD BE EV CHARGING STATIONS. THE CHARGERS THEMSELVES ARE IT'S A PEDESTAL WITH TWO PLUGS. THE CHARGER WOULD GO IN BETWEEN TWO PARKING PLACES AND TWO CARS WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY. THIS IS JUST THE FUNDING APPLICATION. THE CHECKLIST WE NEEDED TO GO THROUGH. MOST OF THE INFORMATION I'M PRESENTING TONIGHT WAS THE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT SUMMARY, THE BUDGET, END USERS CONSIDERATION AND TOTAL ELIGIBLE COSTS WHICH I'LL POINT OUT. HERE ARE THE TWO FUNDING APPLICATIONS AND COSTS BROKEN OUT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE OLD WORTHINGTON CAME IN JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER ON TOTAL PROJECT COSTS.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THE POLE AND GETTING THAT SITE PREPARED IN OLD WORTHINGTON. TOTAL JUST UNDER THE $165,000.

ALL OF THE COSTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.

IT WILL BE COVERED 100%. THE ONLY COSTS THAT MAY NOT BE COVERED IS SIGNAGE AT EACH LOCATION.

THAT IS AN INELIGIBLE COST, WE ESTIMATE IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED BUCKS OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT COSTS.

SO THIS IS WHAT ONE OF THE CHARGERS LOOKS LIKE.

I WILL CIRCLE BACK. THIS IS A HARGE POINT CHARGER.

AND I'LL GET INTO A DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TWO OPTIONS PER THE APE GRANT PROGRAM, WE'RE REQUIRED CHARGE POINT OR GREEN LOTS. THIS IS A CHARGE-POINT CHARGER.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE GO WITH CHARGE-POINT.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF YOU CAN SEE I SUPERIMPOSED THE WORTHINGTON LOGO AND COLORED PART OF THE BALLARD.

THIS IS KENS DALE. THEY PUT THESE IN LAST EEK.

THAT'S THE BEST I COULD DO. SORRY.

SO I WON'T GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE INFORMATION HERE.

IT'S KIND OF FINE PRINT. THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS BOTH PROS AND CONS TO EACH CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS.

CHARGE POINT IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THIS SECTOR. WE DO, THEY MAKE THE HARDWARE AS WELL. CHARGE POINT MAKES LEVEL 1, 2, AND 3, DIFFERENT FROM GREEN LOTS.

THEY CONTRACT WITH MANUFACTURES FOR THE HARDWARE SIDE.

THERE IS A LOT OF ADVANTAGES NOW.

CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS HAVE ACTUALLY PARTNERED TO FORM A PIER TO PIER SHARING SYSTEM. TO WHERE IT'S NOT LIVE YET BUT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE YOUR APPLER, WHETHER IT BE A CHARGE POINT OR GREEN TO FIND OTHER CHARGING STATIONS NOT JUST THE PROPRIETARY HARDWARE. PROS AND CONS, BROKEN OUT A LITTLE CLEANER. SO CHARGE POINT, THEY ARE BOTH PRETTY WELL DONE ON THE TURN KEY APPLICATIONS.

WE WOULD BOTH OF THESE PLATFORMS WOULD WORK FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING THESE SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS THAT CAME UP, THE PROS FOR CHARGE POINT ARE THEY ARE MANUFACTURING BOTH THE HARDWARE AND THEY ARE THE SOFTWARE PROVIDER. THEY ARE COMPLETELY TURN KEY.

WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH EV UNITED AS AN INSTALLER.

SO IT'S READY TO GO. WE DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF à LA CARTE PARTNER WITH THE PROVIDER, THE SOFTWARE PROVIDER.

IT WAS A PACKAGE. THE HARDWARE COSTS TEND TO BE HIGHER, THAT'S THE CON. THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM IN THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE OVERED BY THE REBATE PROGRAM. IF WE ADD CHARGE POINT CHARGERS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. WITH GREEN LOTS, THEY ARE MORE CUSTOMIZABLE. I MENTION THEY HAVE, THEY PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS ON THE ARDWARE.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SURVEY OPPORTUNITIES SO YOU CAN MIX AND MATCH A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE HARDWARE IS LESS EXPENSIVE.

BUT THERE ARE MORE DECISION POINTS.

WE HAVE HEARD THEY WITH GREEN LOTS, THERE TEND TO BE A

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POSSIBILITY OF MORE MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT MAY NOT EXIST WITH CHARGE POINT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SECOND PARTY HARDWARE EQUIPMENT PROVIDER. IT'S NOT QUITE AS TURN KEY AS

TURN POINT. >> WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN HOOKUP THEIR CARS TO BUT THEN OUR INTERFACE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE LIKE THERE IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING HERE THAT SOMEONE WILL LOOK AND SEE WHO IS

USING WHAT I WHEN? >> CHARGE POINT WE HAVE THE ABILITY, BOTH WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK THE USAGE.

FROM THE SOFTWARE WE CAN REGULATE PRICING.

IF YOU AS COUNCIL DECIDE TO CHARGE $2 PER HOUR, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITH EITHER SOFTWARE.

AS DMINISTRATORS OF THE PROGRAM.

>> I WOULD HOPE SO. BUT I WAS ALASKAN OPPOSED.

IS ONE EASIER TO OPEN UP A WEB BROWSER AND FIND THIS STUFF IF YOU HAVE THE USER NAME AND ACCESS OR ADMIN PASSWORD OR?

>> IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT CHARGE POINT IS A EASIER TO USE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. HERE IS AND AGAIN, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO GENE AND ANDREW TO ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS.

BOTH THE TECHNICAL SIDE AS WELL AS THE INDUSTRY SIDE.

THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE ADOPTION IN CENTRAL OHIO.

AS YOU CAN SEE CHARGE POINT HAS BEEN ADOPTED T A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RATE. SOME OF THE OUR PEERS, OHIO STATE, SMART COLUMBUS, CITY OF COLUMBUS, DUBLIN, POWELL HAVE GONE WITH CHARGE POINT. NOT TO SAY GREEN LOTS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. IT HAS BEEN MORE WIDELY ADOPTED

TO DATE. >> R. DOROTHY: OVERALL EVEN IF YOU SUPERIMPOSE THE MAPS, THERE IS NOT MUCH IN WORTHINGTON?

>> CORRECT. THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO PROVIDERS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE REBATE PROGRAM.

>> HOW LONG IS GREEN POINTS AND CHARGE POINT -- EXCUSE ME, GREEN LOTS AND CHARGE POINT BEEN IN THE MARKET HERE IN INDUSTRIAL

OHIO >>

>> I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD REFER TO ANDREW CONNOLLY.

>> I BELIEVE CHARGE POINT HAS BEEN IN THE MARKET SUBSTANTIALLY LONGER WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY THEY HAVE GREATER COVERAGE.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG EACH ONE HAS BEEN IN THE MARKET.

SO THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF WHAT THE CHARGER WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. THE EXPRESS 250 STATION.

FUTURE CONSIDERATION. THIS IS WHERE I'LL POSE ONE QUESTION. WE DO NOT NEED TO DECIDE TONIGHT. AND CIRCLE BACK AND HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION IF NECESSARY ON CHARGE POINT VERSUS GREEN LOTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO WEIGH IN ON AT A FUTURE DATE.

WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE CHARGING CUSTOMERS, WHAT THE COSTS TO CHARGE. WHICH IS ESTIMATED AS YOU CAN THERE, THAT'S KIND OF AN EYE CHART.

YOU HAVE LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH AS FAR AS THE COSTS TO CHARGE.

THE LOW IS IF WE HAD A LOW AMOUNT OF USAGE AT EACH LOCATION, YOU ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $600 PER LOCATION, SO $635 PER LOCATION, IF IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER, MEDIUM USAGE, 975 AND UP TO $1,500 PER LOCATION IF EACH OF THOSE CHARGERS ARE GOING FULL-BLAST FOR 12 HOURS A DAY. THIS EQUATES 15 TO $35,000 PER YEAR. DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THIS DIFFERENT WAYS. I HAVE CONTACTED MULTIPLE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THIS AND PROVIDE AS AN AMENITY. SOME HAVE A HYBRID APPROACH WHERE THEY MAY GIVE THE FIRST 10, 15 MINUTES OF CHARGING TO DRAW CUSTOMERS TO THE OMMUNITY CENTER AND CHARGE AFTER THAT.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BUT I DID WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS WILL NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DECIDE BEFORE WE ACTIVATE THESE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION IF THEY ARE TECHNICAL OR ABOUT THE EV

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CHARGERS, I HAVE TWO EXPERTS HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IS THERE ANYMORE RESENTATION? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY ELSE WASN'T KEDGED.

ANY QUESTIONS? MR. ROBINSON?

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS DRAWN INTO THIS ISSUE UNEXPECTEDLY WHEN I WENT TO THE CLEAN FUEL SYMPOSIUM AND SPOKE TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM GREEN LOTS AND CHARGE POINTS. I VIEW THIS ISSUE IS MORE THAN A SIMPLE ACQUISITION. THIS IS I THINK A PIVOTAL POINT IN TIME WHEN OUR CITY IS BEGINNING TO DEVELOP THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR E MOBILITY, THE ELECTRIFICATION OF NOT ONLY MANY OF OUR OWN VEHICLES IN THE CITY FLEET BUT ALSO ENABLING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO CHARGE VEHICLES.

USE USED THE FIGURE 25% BY 2030, I HAVE SEEN THAT PLUS BY 2040.

THIS IS SERIOUS TUFF. MY THINKING WE OUGHT TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE THINKING LET ME WITH AN EXTENSIVE NETWORK WITHIN WORTHINGTON. MY REMAINING CONCERN ABOUT CHARGE POINT AND LET ME POSE IT AS A QUESTION IS, IF WE SELECT CHARGE POINT, ARE WE COMMITTING OURSELVES TO THE USE OF THEIR HARDWARE ESSENTIALLY IN PERPETUITY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THER PARTY'S SOFTWARE TO MANAGE THEIR CHARGERS IN A NETWORK? IF THAT IS THE CASE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE REOPEN OUR CONSIDERATION AND LOOK AT GREEN LOTS OR AT LEAST GET CLARIFICATION FROM CHARGE POINT.

I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET CLARIFICATION AND IF EITHER YOU OR GENE OR JASON ARE ABLE TO DEFINITIVELY SAY WE'RE NOT LOCKING OURSELVES INTO A SPECIFIC VENDOR, THEN I THINK WE OUGHT TO PAUSE AND LOOK AT THIS FURTHER.

>> SURE, I KNOW GENE OLIVER SPENT MANY HOURS WITH CHARGE POINT ON THE PHONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

I ASK HIM TO COMMENTED ON THAT. >> THANK YOU.

I THINK THERE ARE TWO MATTERS TO CONSIDER.

ONE IS, CAN CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE BE USED TO MANAGE OTHER

CHARGING PLATFORMS? >> D. ROBINSON: THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION. IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

>> I THINK I'LL GET TO THE SECOND ONE.

I WANTED TO SET THE FOUND ACTION.

THERE'S A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AND THE ANSWER IS YES. YOUR QUESTION IS, CAN CHARGE POINT HARDWARE WE MANAGED BY THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE? I I'VE GOTTEN A TENTATIVE YES. I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE LEVEL OF DETAIL PROVIDED SO I WOULD LIKE TO RESEARCH IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND BEFORE WE WOULD GO TO CONTRACT, GET BOTH THOSE ANSWERS IN WRITING AND THOROUGHLY VET THEM SO WE'RE HIGHLY CONFIDENT THOSE ARE INDEED THE ANSWERS WE WOULD EXPERIENCE IN THE FUTURE.

>> SELECT GREEN LOTS, WE WOULD BE FACED WITH THE SAME ISSUE?

>> I'M SORRY, WHEN YOU SAID REVERSE, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT

CHARGE POINT HARD AND WE'RE. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: GREEN LOTS

IS SEAMLESS WITH ANY HARDWARE? >> YES.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: NO MATTER WHAT HARDWARE WE INSTALL, GREEN

LOTS SOFTWARE WILL MANAGE IT? >> I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE

ASKING ABOUT CHARGE POINT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT'S

MY -- MY CONFUSION HERE. >> RIGHT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK MRE GO WITH CHARGE POINTS WE'RE FOREVER AND ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THEM.

IF WE GO WITH GREEN LOTS, ARE WE ALSO NOT ALWAYS FOREVER COMMITTED TO THEM UNLESS THEY ARE INTERCHANGEABLE?

>> THEY ARE A SOFTWARE-BASED PLATFORM.

SO THEY ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THEIR NETWORK BY HAVING A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VENDORS THEY INTEROPERATE WITH.

>> GREEN LOTS FOR CLARIFICATION. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: SOFTWARE

MANAGE POINT CHARGERS. >> THAT'S ANOTHER THING I NEED

TO CONFIRM. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: CAN CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE MANAGE GREEN LOTS HARDWARE? THAT YOU HAVE A TENTATIVE YES BUT YOU DON'T KNOW?

>> I HAVE A TENTATIVE YES AND I WANT MORE DETAILS BEFORE I FI

FIRMLY BELIEVER THAT IS CORRECT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: DOES IT MATTER? MR. ROBINSON

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>> D. ROBINSON: IT DOES BECAUSE IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH GREEN LOTS THEY HAVE SAID THEIR SOFTWARE IS ABLE TO MANAGE HARDWARE FROM MULTIPLE VENDORS. IT'S PART OF THE OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL. THEY DON'T MAKE THEIR OWN CHARGING HARDWARE. THEIR SOFTWARE IS BY DESIGN ADEPT AT MANAGING SEVERAL CHARGING UNITS WITHIN A SINGLE NETWORK. I DON'T PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT.

I ASKED BASIC QUESTIONS I RECEIVED SATISFACTORY AND UNSATISFACTORY LEVELS OF DEFINITIVENESS.

THAT IS MY CONCERN IS BOTH IN MY OWN INQUIRY BUT ALSO IN MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH DAVID AND GENE.

IT STILL SEEMS LESS THAN CERTAIN WHEN IF WE WENT WITH CHARGE POINT WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE LOCKING OURSELVES INTO USING THEIR HARDWARE AND THUS THEIR SOFTWARE INTO THE FUTURE UNLESS WE DECIDED TO MAKE A RADICAL CHANGE AND INCUR PRETTY DRAMATIC

COSTS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YOU ARE CONVINCED IF WE GO WITH GREEN LOTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER?

>> D. ROBINSON: I AM. -- WELL, WHAT I'M CONVINCED PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PAUSE FOR A WEEK OR TWO AND SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH VENDORS UNTIL WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SERVITUDE THAT I THINK WE BE RESPONSIBLE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER GENE AND DAVID DO. MAYBE THEY DO.

BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET CLARITY FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH EV UNITED, CHARGE POINT, GREEN FUELS OHIO, AND OUR OWN STAFF.

AND THAT RAISES MY SKEPTICISM WHEN I'M NOT ABLE TO GET A CLEAR ANSWER, WHICH TO ME SEEMS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE THING TO ANSWER.

CAN YOUR HARDWARE BE USED WITH OTHER FIRM'S SOFTWARE? YES, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TOO SAY THAT AND THAT MAKES ME

CONCERNED. >> I'M SORRY.

>> OPERATE ON THE STANDARD PROTOCOL FOR MANAGING THESE CHARGE POINT STATIONS. SO THERE IS A DEFINED STANDARDS.

IT'S GONE THROUGH SEVERAL VERSIONS.

CURRENTLY, THE MOST CURRENT VERSION WAS ADOPTED IN 2018.

VERSION 2.0. WE KNOW THAT THEY BOTH ATTEST THEY INTEROPERATE AND SUPPORT THAT STANDARD.

I THINK THE QUESTION, HE ONLY QUESTION IN MY MIND IS GETTING CONFIRMATION TO WHAT VERSION CHARGE POINT REALLY OPERATES.

AND GETTING IT IN WRITING FROM BOTH OF THEM.

AND THEY BOTH ASSERTED THE SAME THINGS, THEY OPERATE TO THE STANDARD. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US FOR EITHER, WE GET BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN WRITING.

>> D. ROBINSON: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WAS NOT PART OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAID TO YOU AND WHOM YOU SPOKE WITH. BUT DID NOT GET THE SAME MESSAGE FROM GREEN LOTS AND CHARGE POINT, QUITE DIFFERENT IN FACT.

WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE CHARGE POINT EMPLOYEE, JIMMY, I FORGET HIS LAST NAME. HE PATCHED ME INTO HIS COLLEAGUE IN BOSTON AND WENT ROUND AND AROUND.

AND I COULD NOT GET AN ANSWER AS TO WHETHER THEIR HARDWARE WOULD BE USED WITH THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE.

VERY FRUSTRATING. I DO NOT HEAR THE SAME FROM GREEN LOTS. I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THAT INDEPENDENTLY. I'M HOPING WE CAN.

IT APPEARS INCONCLUSIVE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HAVE A QUESTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A GRANT APPLICATION.

AND IT'S BASED ONGOING WITH CHARGE POINT AND CHARGE POINT'S INSTALLER. IS IT -- MY OTHER UNDERSTANDING IF WE WERE TO GO ITH GREEN LOTS WE WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR A WHOLE DIFFERENT AND GO BACK, REDO THE GRANT PROCESS, THE WHOLE APPLICATION, AND REDO AND RESUBMIT A WHOLE NOTHER APPLICATION. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO GO BACK AND REAPPLY.

IT WAS HIGHLY ENCOURAGED WE DO SO.

I THINK THE WORD THEY USED WAS, PRUDENT.

SO THEY COULD ENSURE THAT ALL OF OUR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE CHANGES WERE ELIGIBLE UNDER THE REBATE PROGRAM.

BUT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT IS

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY INDICATED.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE, HOW LONG WOULD

IT TAKE? >> IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A FEW WEEKS FOR THEM TO REVIEW. THE INITIAL TIME THEY REVIEWED OUR APPLICATION IT WAS I THINK THREE TO FOUR-WEEK TURN AROUND.

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>> B. KOWALCZYK: DOES THIS MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY SEPARATELY THE HARDWARE? WE WOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT OR WHOSE RESPONSIBLE IS THAT? IS IT COVERED WITH THE GRANT FUNDING?

>> I THINK -- I'LL LET YOU TAKE THAT.

>> ANDREW CONNOLLY FROM CLEAN FIELDS OHIO.

THESE ARE THE EXACT RIGHT QUESTIONS TO BE ASKING.

I WANT TO START HERE. THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO BE ASKING. I WOULD LIKE TO BOTH CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS ARE MEMBERS OF CLEAN FIELDS OHIO, WE SUPPORT BOTH COMPANIES. WE'RE FUEL AND TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL. WE'RE NOT HERE TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF ONE OR THE OTHER. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT CHARGE POINT DOES MANUFACTURE THE HARDWARE AND THE SOFTWARE AS WAS SAID. GREEN LOTS MANUFACTURES THE SOFTWARE AND PARTNERS WITH SEVERAL HARDWARE PROVIDERS.

GREEN LOTS IS NOT A UNIVERSALPICTS FOR HARDWARE, IT'S THE SUBSET OF HARDWARE PROVIDERS THEY PARTNER WITH.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE A.E.P. WEBSITE, THERE IS FOUR DIFFERENT HARDWARE PROVIDERS OFFERING SIX OR EIGHT UNITS.

THERE ARE CHARGING STATIONS PROVIDERS LIKE FLOW AND E HAVE GO. OTHER UNITS THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ON EITHER THE CHARGE POINT OR GREEN LOTS NETWORK BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK WITH THE OPEN PROTOCOL, OPEN CHARGE POINT PROTOCOL YOU SEE IN THE CHARGING NETWORK.

THE O.C.P.P. AND THE FIRST FOOTNOTE AT THE BOTTOM.

BOTH CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS HAVE THIS OPEN CHARGE POINT PROTOCOL. WHICH IS A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THEIR CHARGERS TO INTERFACE WITH OTHER SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.

CHARGE POINT DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE IT KNOWN SUPER EASY THEIR HARDWARE CAN BE USED BY OTHER APPLICATIONS.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT CAN.

I THINK WE CAN DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE AND PROVIDE THAT ANSWER DEFINITIVELY FOR YOU. BASED ON THE O.C.P.P. PROTOCOL, THAT MAKES THEM INNER OPERABLE. CHARGE POINT CAN OPERATE THE DIFFERENT HARDWARE ON THE OCPP PROTOCOL.

SINCE THAT OPERATES ON THE O.C.P.P. PROTOCOL, IT MIGHT TAKES A SLIGHT TINKERING WITH THE SOFTWARE ENGINEERS BUT IT SHOULD BE INOPERABLE WITH THE GREEN WORKS NETWORK.

WE CAN WORK TO GET THE ANSWER. IT'S NOT EASY THAT GREEN LOTS IS UNIVERSAL AND CHARGE POINT IS NOT.

BOTH ONLY WORK WITH THE PROPRIETARY HARDWARE THEY PARTNERSHIPS WITH IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST TWO CHARGING STATIONS THAT THE CITY, THAT ARE MUNICIPALLY OWNED, IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INTERFACE THE CITY SOME, MR. OLIVER IS GOING TO HAVE AN INTERFACE SO YOU CAN LOOK TO SEE HOW OFTEN THEY ARE USED AND WE CAN CHANGE WHATEVER PRICING SCHEME IF WE HAVE ANY TO BEGIN WITH. WE'RE WORRIED IF WHEN THE MUNICIPALITY, US, AND NOT ANY OTHER ENTITY WITH THE CITY, I MEAN BECAUSE OTHER ENTITIES CAN PUT CHARGING STATION ON THEIR LOTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT MR. ROBINSON IS ASKING IS YOU DEPLOY THE FIRST TWO CHARGE POINT STATIONS AND MAYBE YOU WANT CHARGING STATION B AND C AND D DOWN THE ROAD THAT ARE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS EACH TIME.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: BUT OWNED BY THE CITY.

>> BUT OWNED BY THE CITY. CAN YOU PERATE ANY EXTENSIVE

NETWORK. >> B. KOWALCZYK: SAME INTERFACE OUR MULTIPLY USER NAME LOG INS. IT COULD BE CUMBERSOME.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS.

>> THAT IS THE QUESTION AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WOULD THERE BE ONE ON BRILLA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OPERATE MULTIPLE

DIFFERENT UNITS. >> R. DOROTHY: I THINK WE HAVE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SEPARATE BILLS AND LOG INS, AND SEEING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DIFFERENT UTILITIES FOR.

>> BUILDINGS WE OWN. YES.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN

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DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WITH THE DIFFERENT UTILITIES, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE AN UMBRELLA APPLICATION.

>> FROM A.P. STANDPOINT, INNER OPERABILITY WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR SELECTING VENDORS. THAT'S WHY THESE TWO WERE SELECTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE OPEN CHARGE POINT PROTOCOL.

CHARGE POINT WAS THE ONE WHO DEVELOPED THE OPEN PROTOCOL.

WE CAN CERTAINLY GET MORE ANSWERS ON THE DEFINITIVE LEVEL AS REQUESTED. BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT FACTOR IS THAT THEY ARE INNER OPERABLE WITH CHARGES THAT OPERATE ON THE SOFTWARE PROTOCOL, NOT JUST ALL CHARGES AT LARGE.

ANY CHARGER THE CITYWIDE LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE WOULD NEED TO OPERATE ON THE STANDARD TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR EITHER CHARGE POINT OR GREEN LOTS NETWORK AND SOFTWARE.

>> R. DOROTHY: THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I'M AN HVAC ENGINEER. I WANT O SEE, DEPENDING ON THE PROTOCOL, CAN I CLICK AND SEE THE TEMPERATURE.

IT DEPENDS IF IT'S BACK NET OR THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF I WANTED TO SEE A TEMPERATURE ON A DIFFERENT SYSTEM, I MIGHT HAVE TO POP UP A DIFFERENT SCREEN. IT'S EASIER IF EVERYTHING TALKS TO ONE ANOTHER AND I CAN SEE THAT RIGHT AWAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE THAT OPEN PROTOCOL IS WHAT SHOULD MAKE SURE I MEAN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE THAT WOULD DO THE INTERCHANGE POTENTIALLY. BUT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE AND WE

COULD DO THAT. >> AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE LIKELY ADDITIONAL PARTIES ENTERING WITH ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS MANAGING WIDER NETWORKS OF HARGING.

A NUMBER OF COMPANIES, ORGANIZATIONS, MUNICIPALITIES ARE INSTALLING A RANGE OF CHARGERS.

THERE IS AN INCREASING MARKET NEED GOING FORWARD.

I THINK, UNDERSTANDING THIS O.C.P.P. AS A STANDARD, WHICH BOTH APPLY TO, IS JUST KIND OF AN IMPORTANT FOUNDATIONAL ASPECT. THERE IS FLEXIBILITY WITH ANYTHING THAT OPERATES ON THAT STANDARD.

>> THE INDUSTRY IS GOING TO STANDARDIZE.

YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME, DOORKNOBS WERE AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS UNTIL A LOT OF PEOPLE STARTING MAKING DOORS AND HOUSES AND NOW THEY

ARE AT THE SAME HEIGHT. >> I THINK WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THE STANDARDIZATION OF HE PROTOCOL AND EVERYONE IS DESIGNING HEIR OWN SOFTWARE SO THEY CAN SPECIALIZE AND ADD VALUE DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OR COMPLEXITY OR WHATEVER HAVE YOU.

THE ENGINEERING PROTOCOL, THE LANGUAGE THAT THE BASIC OPERATING SYSTEMS THE HARDWARE WORKS ON IS WHAT IS INNER OPERABLE. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENTIATION BEYOND THAT AS THE MARKET GROWS.

>> AS IT EVOLVES THAT WILL STANDARDIZE, SUCH AS SHARINGS NETWORKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

POINT DOESN'T MEAN IN THE SECOND ROUND WE CAN'T GO WITH GREEN LOTS. IT MEANS WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT

OPERATING SYSTEMS. >> THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE

QUESTION. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I USE THIS THING HERE. SAME KIND OF DIFFERENCE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW ALCZYK.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I'M DISTILLING IT DOWN THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.

YOU HAVE THE HARDWARE. IT COMES WITH SOFTWARE.

SO CHARGE POINT HAS ITS OWN AND HARDWARE.

GREEN LOTS HAS SOFTWARE, SEPARATE HARDWARE THAT THEY HAVE CERTAIN VENDORS THEY USE. THE SOFTWARE IS IMPORTANT TO US, NOT ONLY SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING BUT ALSO INSTITUTE IF WE WANT TO DO CHARGING EOPLE AND DIFFERENT RATES AND BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT AS WELL. WE WANT HARDWARE THAT ESSENTIALLY IS PLUG AND PLAY IS OUR SOFTWARE.

IS THAT THE LEVEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?

IS IT TOO SIMPLE A DESCRIPTION? >> O.C.P.P. IS THE GLUE THAT ALLOWS THAT PLUG AND PLAY AND THAT LEVEL OF INTEGRATION

BETWEEN THE VENDORS. >> B. KOWALCZYK: YOU STILL NEED TO ONFIRM THAT O.C.P.P. -- PLUG AND PLAY FOR --

>> THEY ATTESTED THEY CONFORM TO THAT STANDARD.

WE NEED TO FULLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> MS. KOWALCZYK, I THINK YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS EXCELLENT.

THAT IS THE EXACT ISSUE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO

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BRING P ON THIS? >> B. KOWALCZYK: ONE OTHER

QUESTION. >> R. DOROTHY: THAT BROUGHT, HOW LONG WOULD THESE THINGS LAST PROVIDED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CARS RUN INTO THEM OR ANY OTHER TRUCKS LIKE HOW LONG CAN WE EXPECT THEM IF BARRING ANYTHING CATASTROPHIC FOR THEM TO LAST?

>> YES. DURING OUR PROCESS WITH THE CITY, WE RECEIVED QUOTES FROM BOTH VENDORS AND ASKED THE QUESTION TO BOTH. BOTH EXPECTED 10 YEAR USEFUL LIFE FOR THEIR D.C. FAST CHARGER EQUIPMENT.

AT LEAST, THAT WAS STATED USEFUL LIFE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER --

>> GET IN ON THE FUN HERE. IT JUST -- WHAT IS THE CURRENT IF WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT IS THE CURRENT INSTALL TIMELINE AND IF WE PUSH IT BACK A WEEK ARE WE IN DANGER OF LOSING THAT FUNDING IF WE WENT TO GET CLARITY TO MR. ROBINSON'S POINT?

>> IT WOULD BE A 30-DAY DELIVERY FROM EXECUTION.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE IN ANY DANGER OF LOSING FUNDING IF

WE PUSH BACK THE TIME. >> R. DOROTHY: BACK TO LIFE CYCLE THOUGH, FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, DO WANT TO MENTION IF THIS IS A 10-YEAR LIFESPAN THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE CHARGE PEOPLE IF IN 10 YEARS WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT, WHATEVER COST THAT IS.

I DOUBT WE'LL HAVE A GRANT PROGRAM.

MAKE SURE THAT IS FACTORED INTO OUR CONVERSATION.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: ON TIME. I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT ALSO O SUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION IF WE CHANGE VENDORS. JUST SO WE DON'T GET STUCK WITH A BILL AT THE END OF THE DAY. HOW LONG IS IT FROM BEGINNING OF THE APPLICATION TO APPROVAL? HOW LONG DID THIS ONE TAKE?

>> FOUR WEEKS. I THINK IT WOULD BE TWO, NOT ONE WEEK SINCE WE'RE -- ARE WE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD NEXT WEEK? TWO WEEKS AND HOW MUCH -- HOW LONG DID YOU SAY? ABOUT FIVE WEEKS AND THEN 30 DAYS. WE WOULD DEFINITELY ASSUMING NO BAD WEATHER. AND WE CAN GET A.E.P. TO PUT THE PULL UP. I'VE WAITED -- POLE -- I'VE

WAITED MONTHS FOR THEM. >> AS A FOLLOW-UP, TO CLARIFY, I'VE SEEN CHARGE POINT AT WORK. I DON'T HAVE AN E.V. BUT I WON'T BE SEEN THE PROCESS AND PROGRAM.

IT'S A QUALITY PRODUCT. I SEE NO REASON TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. JUST TO GET CLARITY FROM THEM.

>> THE QUESTION THAT I'M BRINGING UP AT THIS POINT IS WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS. WE CAN DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OR WE CAN TABLE THE ORDINANCE FOR TWO WEEKS IN ORDER TO GET THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

>> I THINK IT'S -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES,

MR. GREASE. >> M. GREESON: FROM A PROCUREMENT PROCESS STANDPOINT IT'S KIND OF, ONE IS YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT. TWO, YOU CAN TABLE IT AND REQUEST SPECIFIC INFORMATION TO DRILL DOWN ON THE CHARGE POINT RECOMMENDATION. ESSENTIALLY, WE RUN A PROCESS THAT LED TO A GRANT APPLICATION BASED ON CHARGE POINT.

AND WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU THAT HAS .V. UNITED IN IT. IF YOU TABLE IT, YOU COULD ASK, MOVE FORWARD, YOU COULD TABLE IT TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION. OR THE THIRD OPTION TO BE TO REEVALUATE THE RECOMMENDATION AND FULL RECONSIDERATION TO GREEN LOTS AND DO ATTEMPT O DO PULL THEM IN AND DO A RECOMPARISON OF BOTH OF THEM, GIVEN THE RAISED ISSUES.

I KIND OF SEE IT AS THREE OPTIONS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT, MR. GREESON. IF WE WERE TO CHANGE VENDORS, WE NEED TO INTRODUCE A NEW ORDINANCE?

OR COULD WE AMEND THE CURRENT? >> M. GREESON: I THINK YOU COULD AMEND THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. I THINK TO BE FAIR, YOU WANT TO DO THAT WITH A PROPER CONSIDERATION OF BOTH VENDORS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I MEAN, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU CERTAINLY KNOW EVERYBODY WHO HAS SEEN ME STRUGGLE, I'M NOT TECHNICALLY SAVVY. I'M A MECHANICAL GUY AND I LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE CHEVIES AND FORD IN YOUR FLEET AND CHANGE

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OUR OWN OIL AND THE FILTERS ARE IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

JUST BECAUSE WE BUY CHARGE POINT, DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BUY GREEN LOTS DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT PERSUADED ME NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> D. ROBINSON: IF I MAY SPEAK TO THAT, THE DIFFERENCE FOR VEHICLES WE HAVE ONE DRIVER FOR EACH VEHICLE AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE WANT A SINGLE MANAGEMENT PLATFORM TO MANAGE MULTIPLE CHARGING DEVICES. I THINK IT'S -- IT WOULD BE CUMBERSOME AND INEFFICIENT TO MANAGE A MORE EXPENSIVE NETWORK WITH MULTIPLE SOFTWARE PLATFORMS.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. >> D. SMITH: I'M AGREE WITH MR. ROBINSON ON THAT. I THINK US ASKING THE QUESTION FOR THEM TO CLARIFY WILL PUSH THEM TO THE BETTER IN THE MARKETPLACE. I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY WILL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ADEQUATE. I MOVE WE TABLE THIS AND REQUEST CHARGE POINT O GET SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM MR. OLIVER AND MCCORKLE AND HAVE IT COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? MISS KOWALCZYK

>> >> B. KOWALCZYK: WHAT IS GOING TO APPEN DURING THOSE T TWO WEEKS?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MY UNDERSTANDING IS MR. OLIVER IS GOING TO WORK WITH THE COMPANIES TO GET, DRILL DOWN AND GET A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS IN WRITING THAT WE

WERE DISCUSSING. >> SPECIFICALLY FOR HARGE

POINT, ORRECT? >> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD ASK BOTH COMPANIES PROVIDE ANSWERS AROUND COMMON QUESTIONS.

>> IF WE GET AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSES FROM BOTH COMPANIES, WHAT'S THE DECISION CRITERIA THEN?

>> D. ROBINSON: THEY CAN EXPLAIN THAT.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE QUESTIONS WHEN YOU SAY, AFFIRMATIVE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL QUESTION OF WHETHER THEIR HARDWARE CAN BE MANAGED S PART OF A MULTIPLE-SENDER NETWORK WITH A SOFTWARE -- VENDOR -- PROGRAM FROM A DIFFERENT COMPANY. THAT IS THE QUESTION.

>> MY QUESTION IS IF THEY BOTH RESPOND TO THE AFFIRMATIVE THEY CAN MANAGE NONSPECIFIC HARDWARE, THEN WHAT DO WE NEED TO MAKE A

DECISION -- >> D. ROBINSON: IF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THEIR ANSWERS AND DRILLED DOWN AND BELIEVE THEIR AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSIBLE IS CREDIBLE, I WOULD BE SATISFIED.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MIC MICHAEL?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WE WERE LOOK AT CHARGE POINT, AND IT WOULD BE CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.

WE PURCHASE THE PACKAGE, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WERE PRETTY CONFIDENT AND MAYBE YOU WERE, CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE CAN BE USED WITH OTHER EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE, IF WE BOUGHT OTHER EQUIPMENT, WE COULD USE THE CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE TO MANAGE THE OTHER EQUIPMENT. IF WE WENT WITH CHARGE POINT RIGHT NOW, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM.

THE QUESTION THAT MR. ROBINSON IS RAISINGS, IF WE HAD OTHER SOFTWARE AND NEEDED TO USE THAT TO MANAGE CHARGE POINT HARDWARE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING OR THE PROPOSAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> QUESTION. SO CHARGE POINT STATES VERY DIRECTLY THEY CAN MANAGE ANY HARDWARE THAT OPERATES ON THE O.C.P.P., THE OPEN CHARGE POINT PROTOCOL.

WHICH SO THEY SAY THEIR SOFTWARE CAN MANAGE ANY HARDWARE THAT OPERATES ON THAT STANDARD. WHAT WASN'T ABLE TO BE DEFINITIVELY ANSWERED TO COUNCILMEMBER ROBINSON'S SATISFACTION CAN THE CHARGE POINT HARDWARE BE MANAGED BY THE GREEN LOTS SOFTWARE OR OTHER THIRD-PARTY SOFTWARE.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WE WOULD BUY OTHER TO MANAGE THE HARDWARE?

>> OTHER HARDWARE. AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS IF WE WANTED TO PURCHASE OTHER CHARGING STATIONS, YEAH, OTHER HARDWARE CHARGING STATIONS, AND AT THE TIME WE WOULD BE USING THE CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE. WOULD WE BE BOUND TO BUYING CHARGE POINT HARDWARE IF WE WERE USING THE CHARGE POINT SOFTWARE?

>> CORRECT. BUT OKAY, THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT THEN IF WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO USE AN ALTERNATIVE SOFTWARE,

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MANAGEMENT PLATFORM FOR THE CITY, WOULD WE BE CONSTRAINED TO STAY WITH CHARGE POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE CHARGE POINT HARDWARE? AND APPEARS THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES.

BUT THIS IS THE POINT OF CONTENTION.

AND TO ME, IT WOULD BE UNDESIRABLE FOR THE CITY TO MAKE A COMMITMENT NOW. I'M SORRY?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NOW.

WE'RE PROJECTING A POSITION WHERE WE MAY CHANGE OUR MIND SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVEN'T MADE A SELECTION NOW.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO MAKE A SELECTION THAT WORKS FOR US NOW.

>> WHAT 'M HEARING AND I'M NOT CERTAIN, PLEASE CLARIFY.

YOU ARE ASKING FOR A UNIVERSAL SOFTWARE AND UNIVERSAL HARDWARE THAT WHATEVER WE BUY IS GOING TO WORK WITH EVERY?

>> WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE CHARGE POINT REPS AND LOOKED AT THEIR PROGRAM, IT APPEARS THEY ARE INTERTWINING HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE IN A WAY IF YOU BURNS THE SYSTEM YOU ARE COMMITTING -- PURCHASE -- TO USING THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS, IF WE DETERMINE THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COMPANY, BUT WE HAVE CHARGE POINT HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO READILY BECAUSE THE TWO GO HAND

IN HAND. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MMR. SI

TH. >> D. SMITH: I THINK MY QUESTION IS, AND IF I'M GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS I SEE THIS IN MY DAY JOB, WHERE WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

AND ANOTHER PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE WITH THAT INITIAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, THEY ARE INCREASING THE RATES YEAR BY YEAR, AND WE WANT TO MOVE OVER TO THIS OTHER SOFTWARE, WHICH IS A THIRD SOFTWARE.

SO WE FIND A THIRD-PARTY PLATFORM THAT TAKES ALL THREE AND AGGREGATES THEM. I THINK MY QUESTION STRAIGHTFORWARD TO CHARGE POINT, DOES THE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE O.C.P.P. STANDARDIZATION, WILL IT BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE WITH THE OTHER THIRD-PARTY PLATFORMS THAT COME INTO THE MARKET PLACE AT SOME POINT?

MAYBE THE ANSWER IS YES. >> IT'S DEFINITIVE, YES.

>> THE WHOLE POINT OF THE OPEN CHARGE POINT PROTOCOL IS FOR THE INTEGRATION. IF YOU READ THE FOOTNOTE ONE, THE NATURE OF THE PROTOCOL IS TO ACHIEVE THE END OAL.

CHARGE POINT HE BUSINESS MODEL IS TO SELL HARDWARE AND MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, AND RENEW IS IT AS LONG AS YOU ARE A CUSTOMER. GREEN LOTS BUSINESS MODEL IS TO SELL YOU THE SOFTWARE AND TO PARTNER WITH HARDWARE PROVIDERS.

SO I MEAN, THEY BOTH WANT TO SELL YOU THE SOFTWARE AT THE END OF THE DAY. I THINK THAT'S THE EY DIFFERENTIATOR IN HOW THEY MARKET THEMSELVES IS GREEN LOTS UPFRONT THING IS WE'RE A HARDWARE AGNOSTIC, WE WORK ON THE O.C.P.P. PROTOCOL. JUST SELLING YOU THE SOFTWARE.

CHARGE POINT WANTS SE TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION COMES N.

SELECTION CRITERIA FOR A.E.P. WAS AROUND THE PEN CHARGE POINT STANDARD, THAT'S WHY THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO THEY WORK WITH.

TO DATE IN THE MARKET I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ONE KIND OF UNIVERSAL SOFTWARE OUTSIDE OF THESE BOTH CHARGE POINT AND GREEN LOTS HAVE WORKED TO INTEGRATE THEIR SOFTWARE WITH PARTICULAR AVAILABLE HARDWARE CURRENTLY.

GREEN LOTS HAS PARTNERED WITH SEVERAL OTHER THIRD PARTIES AND

DOESN'T MAKE THE HARDWARE. >> WE HAVE AN OUT CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT THAT DOESN'T BIND US TO THEIR SOFTWARE AND PERPETUITIY?

>> YES, ON A RENEWAL BASIS CONTRACTUAL TERM FOR THE SOFTWARE. THE HARDWARE IS A ONE TIME PURCHASE. THE SOFTWARE AND CLOUD-BASED MANAGEMENT SERVICES WITH A ANOTHER TERM OF CONTRACT.

>> D. SMITH: IF THEY ARE INCREASING RATES AT THE ND OF THE NEXT CONTRACT, WE COULD GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF CHARGE

POINT SOFTWARE? >> THEY DISCUSS HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO COMPETE ON A COMPETITIVE SOFTWARE BASIS IN THE FUTURE WHEN THAT TERM CAME TO FRUITION?

> >> D. SMITH: I RESCIND MY

MOTION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU

RESCIND YOUR MOTION? >> D. SMITH: CORRECT.

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO WE RESCIND THE SECOND? WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION.

OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE TO MOVE FORWARD? WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND VOTE OR DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT.

OR THE THIRD OPTION THAT MR. GREESON MENTIONED.

WHAT IS THE FEELING OF COUNCIL? SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> R. DOROTHY: I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE'VE WORKED HARD GETTING THIS THROUGH.

I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH RESIDENTS IN WORTHINGTON WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THIS HAPPEN.

AND SEVERAL THAT WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN STARTING THIS PROCESSING PUSHING US IN THIS DIRECTION, TELLING US ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND WANTING TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

NOT EVEN BECAUSE THEY ARE RESIDENTS BUT BECAUSE THEY WANTED PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF WORTHINGTON TO COME AND CHARGE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I WOULD LOVE TO VOTE ON

THIS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO -- WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON THE AGENDA IS THERE ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT WANT, THAT FEELS WE NEED TO TABLE THIS? OKAY.

JUST MR. ROBINSON DOES? >> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD PREFER THAT BUT I I'M PREPARED TO HAVE COUNCIL TO TAKE THE VOTE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> D. ROBINSON: FURTHER DILIGENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN PREFERABLE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES. OKAY.

ORDINANCE 38-2019 HAS PASSED. MOVING ONTO 39-2019.

[6.B. Ordinance No. 39-2019 Easement - Columbia Gas of Ohio]

AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN - 6999 HUNTLEY ROAD.

AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 6999 HUNTLEY ROAD AND AUTHORIZING A VARIANCE (GRANITE DIRECT/HUNTLEY CORPORATE CENTER, LLC). MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMB ERS OF COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. WHITED.

>> MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS YET AGAIN A NORTHEAST GATEWAY DISCUSSION. CLUB GAS IS RELOCATING ND REPAIRING G GAS LINES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

WE CURRENTLY OWN BASED ON SOME OF OUR ACQUISITIONS, 7200 HUNTLEY ROAD PROPERTY. COLUMBIA GAS INTENDED TO PUT A GAS LINE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY AND ASKING FOR EASEMENT

IN ORDER TO DO SO. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTI? HEARING DONE, MS. THRESS CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL?

>>

>> D. ROBINSON: YES, >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES.

ORDINANCE 39-2019 PASSED. NEW LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCE

[7.A. Resolution No. 55-2019 Amendment to Development Plan - 6999 Huntley Road]

ARED. 7.B. RESOLUTION NO. 56-2019 AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN - 7099 HUNTLEY ROAD AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 7099 HUNTLEY ROAD AND AUTHORIZIN MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT PLANS HUNTLEY ROAD, THIS AND THE NEXT RESOLUTION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BLOWN

TO GO THROUGH THESE. >> MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE REQUEST IS THAT INCLUDES A VARIANCE FOR SIGNAGE, A 4.6-ACRE PARCEL NESTLED BETWEEN WORTHINGTON GALENA, HUNTLEY ROAD NORTH OF THE RAILROAD SPUR. HOWEVER, IT DOES OT HAVE FRONTAGE ON THE WORTHINGTON GALENA SIDE, WHICH IS KEY FOR THE VARIANCE. WE KNOW THIS IS THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY. THE PARCEL HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY MULTIPLY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. THE REQUEST IS TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIGN ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES WORTHINGTON-GALENA ROAD, IT DOES NOT HAVE FRONTAGE SO YOU CAN SEE IT OUTLINED. A REQUEST FOR A 4.8 SIGN ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER. IT REQUIRES YOU HAVE FRONTAGE FOR A SIGN FOR THE BUILDING. SEVERAL BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT HAVE SECONDARY SIGNS AND HAVE GONE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD GRANITE GUY ND STONE CITY AND THE NORTHERN BUILDING RECEIVED VARIANCES FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT DID NOT HAVE STREET FRONTAGE. AGAIN --

>>

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SEPTEMBER 12. THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR A

SIGN PERMITTED. >>

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? MS. KOWALCZYK MOVES WE APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY. I MOVE -- MOVE FOR ADOPTION.

SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY. INTRODUCED BY MS. KOWALCZYK, MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MS. DOROTHY AND SECONDED BY MR. MEYERS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? MOVING ONTO

[7.B. Resolution No. 56-2019 Amendment to Development Plan - 7099 Huntley Road]

RESOLUTION NO. 56-2019 AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN - 7099 HUNTLEY ROAD AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 7099 HUNTLEY ROAD AND AUTHORIZING VARIANCES (THE GELDHILL FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERSHIP /DONALD T.

PLANK, ESQ.). MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, HE'LL COVER THIS

ONE. >> MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS IS AT THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY.

SORRY, IT'S ESITATING. RIGHT AT THE POINT WITH EAST WILSON BRIDGE ROAD AND GALENA AND HUNTLEY ROAD.

THERE IS A SMALL SLIVER, .045-ACRE THAT IS GOING TO

BE PURCHASED BY THE CITY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK

WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE -- >> THE BLUE AREA IS WHAT THE CITY IS BUYING, THE HATCHED AREA IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO HAVE THEIR DRIVE AISLE AND PARKING EXPANDED TOWARDS THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, TOWARDS THE POINT THERE IS GOING TO BE THE RETENTION BASIN, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND A MULTIUSE PATH, 20 FEET FROM THE HATCHED AREA. IN 1986, THE MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR THE SETBACK REDUCED FROM 30 TO 10 FEET. FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY OUT OF HUNTLEY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THE SETBACK. THE PORTION IN THE BLUE IS RELATED TO THE PROJECT. THE HATCHED AREA IS WHAT WOULD HELP THE APPLICANT IS MANEUVERABILITY OF THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS CURRENTLY A LITTLE OVER 25 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE CODE REQUIRES 30.

THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THAT TO BE RECTIFIED AS PART OF THE PROCESS. AGAIN, STAFF DID NOT SEE ISSUES WITH GRANTING EITHER VARIANCES WITH FUTURE REDEVELOPDEVELOPMENF PARCEL. IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 26 BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: KEVIN DUNN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO APPLICANT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THEY SHOULD ARISE.

WE HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO AT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. SMITH INTRODUCED THIS RESOLUTION.

MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MR. ROBINSON, SECONDED BY MS. KOWALCZYK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY .

OPPOSED? RESOLUTION 56-2019 IS PASSED.

[7.C. Resolution No. 57-2019 2019 Tax Incentive Review Council Recommendations]

RESOLUTION NO. 57-2019 2019 TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 2019 WORTHINGTON TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COUNCIL CONCERNING PARCELS OF COMMERCIAL REAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON RECEIVING TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR PURPOSES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMB ERS OF COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, REVISED CODE REQUIRES US TOO A TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COUNCIL.

AND THAT COUNCIL HAS THE DUTY OF REVIEWING TAX EXEMPTIONS, INCREMENT FINANCING AND ABATEMENTS USED TO INCENTIVIZE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY MEET ANNUALLY TO REVIEW THE STATUS OF THOSE AND MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MRE TURF, WHICH IS THE ACRONYM.

AND HE CAN GO OVER THEIR WORK. >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON.

MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE TAX INCENTIVE REVIEW COUNCIL. A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES. PERSAUNT TO THE OHIO REVISED

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CODE RESCREW ECRA AND TIFFS, DISCONTINUING, CONTINUING WITH MODIFICATION. THIS YEAR THE TURK SO THEY, THAT SHOULD BE 2019 BUT IT IS JULY 24, 2019, NINE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, INCLUDING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE AUDITOR, COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, TWO CITY REPS, ONE SCHOOL REP, THE SCHOOL TREASURER, TWO SHARON TOWNSHIP REPS.

A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON THE CRA PROGRAM.

THIS IS EXCEPTS A PERCENTAGE OF REAL PROPERTY ON THE IMPROVEMENTS. EXEMPTS.

TRADITIONALLY COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.

HERE WE DO NOT ABATE — IN THE PINK IS THE BASELINE AND GREEN ABATED PROPERTY VALUE. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN A C.R.A. IS A APPROVED, A CERTAIN VALLATION THAT THE COUNTY AUDITOR HAS COME UP WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, $5 MILLIOA PROPERTY IS LOCKED IN PLACE.

ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT RESULT IN AN INCREASE PROPERTY VALLATION, THE DIFFERENCE IS WHERE THE ABATED VALUE COMES IN. SO THE BASELINE CONTINUES TO STAY THE SAME. ANY PROPERTY TAXES PAID TO VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS OR LOCAL TAXING AGENTS CONTINUE WHERE THEY WERE, IT'S ONLY THE ABATED VALUE THAT IS NOT PAID.

STATE REQUIREMENTS. THIS WAS A PROGRAM CREATED IN THE '60S FOR URBAN BLIGHT. UP TO 15%.

IT'S CITY OR VILLAGE PETITIONS THE STATE TO CREATE THEIR C.R.A.

AND THEN EACH TURK HAS A HOUSING OFFICER, I AM THE CITY'S HOUSING OFFICER. CONTINUED ON STATE REQUIREMENTS.

COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS REQUIRE AGREEMENT.

ANY KNOWLEDGE MORE THAN 50% OR 10 YEARS REQUIRE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL. AND THEN SCHOOL BOARD NOTICE AND REQUIRED AT LEAST 45 DAYS IN IN ADVANCE.

IT CAN WE WAIVED. THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR REPORTING, WE NEED TO SUBMIT ALL ANNUAL EPORTS TO THE OHIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AGENCY BY THE END OF MARCH EVERY YEAR FOR BOTH THE C.R.A.'S AND TIFF'SES. SO WORTHINGTON IS OUR C.R.A. IS MORE SPECIFIC THAN THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. WE ONE C.R.A.

BOUNDARY IN WORTHINGTON THAT INCORPORATESS OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDORS, WILSON BRIDGE AND HIGH STREET, WE ONLY FOCUS ON COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL. AGAIN, COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL, WE FURTHER HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST $1 MILLION OF INVESTMENT AND NEW CONSTRUCTION OR IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN 25 NEW JOBS OR INCUR AT LEAST $1 MILLION ANNUAL PAYROLL TO BE ELIGIBLE. SO THAT'S THE C.R.A. PROGRAM.

THE TIFF, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, THIS IS AN EXEMPTION OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES ON THE VALUE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE MAIN DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT THE C.R.A. IS A TRUE ABATEMENT.

PROPERTY TAXES ARE NOT PAID. T.I.F. IS A PAYMENT IN-LIEU OF TAXES, TAXES ARE PAID ON THE INCREASED ALLATION INTO A SEPARATE FUND TO SUPPORT STRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT SAID IN THE CITY. 75% OR 10 YEARS, REQUIRES SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL. YOU CAN DO UP TO 100% AND 30 YEARS WITH A T.I.F. AGAIN, REPORTING BY THE END OF MARCH. HERE'S THE ACTUAL INFORMATION ON OUR 2019 TURK. THE FIRST PROJECT, THREE C.R.A., WORTHINGTON STATION ON WERE PROPRIETORS ROAD.

THE ORIGINAL ABATEMENT APPROVED IN 2007.

THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL ACTUALLY DID NOT BEGIN CONSTRUCTION UNTIL 2013. WE AMENDED THE C.R.A. TO EXTEND THEM. SO THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED VALUE ON THE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. UP UNTIL THIS YEAR, WHEN I PRESENTED THE WORTHINGTON STATION C.R.A., IT HAD EIGHT PARCELS, SEVEN BURNED OFF LAST YEAR.

ONLY ONE PARCEL REMAINING THAT WILL GO THROUGH 2022.

JUST A COUPLE OF ICTURES. THIS IS THE TAX YEAR 2018 REPORTING AND CALENDAR YEAR 2019 PROJECT PERFORMANCE.

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THIS IS THE ONLY C.R.A. THAT THE TURK RECOMMENDED ADJUSTING, THE OTHER TWO AS IS. THE DIFFERENCE ERE IS BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE PARCEL REMAINING,X THE JOB AND PAYROLL COMPLIMENT NO LONGER REFLECT WHAT IS ACTIVE ON THE ABATEMENT.

WHAT THE TURK RECOMMENDED IS CONTINUING WITH THE ABATEMENT.

BUT ADJUSTING THE AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT B.C.R. WORTHINGTON IS THE LOAN BEEN FISHERARY, REMOVING THE OTHER 7 PARCELS AND ADJUSTING HE JOBS AND PAYROLL TO REFLECT 2018.

THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. 7 JOBS WERE REPORTED AND $270,000. THAT IS B.C.R.'S PROPRIETARIES.

SO THE TIRC IS RECOMMENDING CONTINUING AND MODIFYING.

ROADRUNNER IS THE SECOND. LAKE VIEW APPROVED IN 017.

THE FINAL YEAR WAS 2018 OFFENSE BENEFIT.

A 75%, 10-YEAR C.R.A. A COUPLE OF PICTURES.

ROADRUNNER MOVED OUT IN 2018. THEY HAVE A SMALL RETAIL PRESENCE REMAINING BUT MOST JOBS WERE RELOCATED.

WHILE THE JOB COMMITMENT IS LESS, THEY MET 93% OF THE PAYROLL. TECHNICALLY, THE TIRC COULD HAVE RECOMMENDED GOING AFTER THEM FOR BEING NUMBER ON THE JOBS.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY MET SO MUCH PAYROLL AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN THE LOCATION UNTIL AUGUST OF THAT YEAR, THEY RECOMMENDED JUST LETTING THE PROJECT FINISH OUT WITHOUT TAKING PUNITIVE ACTION. THE COUNTY AUDITOR SHARED IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AFTER THEM AFTER SOMEBODY ACATED.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EXAMPLES OF WHEN THAT HAS OCCURRED BUT SAID IT WAS POSSIBLE.

THE TIRC RECOMMENDED THIS ONE TO FINISH OUT.

THIS ONE WILL FALL OFF NEXT YEAR.

THE FINAL C.R.A. IS F.C. BANK NEXT DOOR.

THE REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS APPROVED IN 2015, 15%, 10-YEAR ABATEMENT THROUGH 2027. ONE PICTURE.

AND THEN HERE'S THE 2018 PROJECT PERFORMANCE.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THEY WERE TO HAVE 3 TOTAL JOBS CREATED BY 1231 OF 18. FOUR RETAINED AND 19 NEW.

EXACTLY 23. 23 AND FOUR RETAINED.

27 TOTAL. THEY MET 94% OF THE PAYROLL.

FOR THIS REASON, THE TIRC RECOMMENDED CONTINUING WITH THE ABATEMENT. THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE I HAVE.

I PUT ALL OF THE TIFS ON THE SAME ONE.

THE TIRC FOUND THE TIFFS COMPLIANT.

FIVE OF THE SEVEN WERE GENERATING REVENUE, UP FROM THREE LAST YEAR. TWO TIFS STARTED SEEING DEPOSITS. AS OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR, SIX OF INSEVEN TIFS GENERATING WITH THE LOAN EXCEPTION OF KEMPER HOUSE.

THE CAN COUNTY AUDITOR WILL NOT SEE BENEFIT UNTIL THE YEAR AFTER CONSTRUCTION. THEY FIN FINISHED THIS YEAR.

>> R. DOROTHY: TIF'S HAVE PAYMENTS THAT GET REINVESTED INTO PUBLIC USES AROUND THAT SURROUNDING AREA?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. A C.R.A. IS MORE PRIVATE.

TIF IS PUBLIC BENEFIT. THE DOLLARS, THE OWNERS OF THE KEMPER HOUSE ARE PAYING THE FULL PROPERTY TAX.

THE DIFFERENCE IS A CERTAIN PIECE ARE GOING INTO A SEPARATE FUND THE CITY MANAGES. THEY ARE ACTUALLY INCURRING THE COST. AND THEN UNDER CERTAIN AGREEMENTS WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR A CERTAIN PROJECT COST.

AND CERTAIN INSTANCES, WE ARE NOT REIMBURSING THEM UNDER THE AGREEMENT. ALL OF THE PROCEEDS GO TO THE CITY TO PAY FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE PARCEL THAT HAD THE TIF ON IT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TIRC.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS?

>> R. DOROTHY: IN GENERAL, WE TRY NOT TO DO AS MANY C.R.A.'S ALSO BECAUSE IT BENEFITS MORE A PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT ALSO WE

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HAVE A HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT BETWEEN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO TRY NOT TO POACH PEOPLE WITH INCENTIVES LIKE THAT.

>> SURE. SO THERE IS A ANTIPOACHING, IT'S NOT A FORMALLY SIGNED DOCUMENT BUT THERE IS AN ANTIPOACHING PHILOSOPHY IN CENTRAL OHIO. WHERE YOU DO YOUR BEST NOT TO STEEL JOBS FROM OTHER MULTIS. MUNICIPALS.BKED INTO THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION. I WON'T NAME NAMES BUT THERE ARE NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN PUTTING PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS ON CLASS-A OFFICE SPACE.

WE LOST ANTHEM, FOR EXAMPLE, TO A BUILDING T POLARIS HAT HAD A PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. THAT IS AN ATTRACTIONIVE TOOL OTHERS ARE USING TO DRAW TENANTS IN.

WE USE IT CONSERVATIVELY AND ONLY APPROVED WITH THE ANTHEM C. R.A. ONLY FOUR APPROVED IN THE LAST 12 YEARS.

WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR APPROACH.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WHEN WE CONSIDER THESE WE ALSO THE SCHOOLS AND REVENUE THEY WOULD LOSE WE HAVE A --

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN TO THE FAR RIGHT, MANY ARE NONSCHOOL TIFS, WHICH MEANS WE DO NOT TOUCH THE SCHOOL -- THE SCHOOL RECEIVES THE SAME SHARE OF PROPERTY TAXES THEY WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE. WE LEAVE THEIR DOLLARS ALONE.

THERE ARE INSTANCES WE'RE SHARING ITH THE SCHOOLS AS WELL. WHERE WE DO AN INCOME TAX

SHARING AGREEMENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. DOROTHY INTRODUCES THIS RESOLUTION, MOVE FOR ADOPTION BY MR. MEYERS, SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

RESOLUTION 57-2019 PASSES. RESOLUTION NO. 58-2019 FACE

[7.D. Resolution No. 58-2019 FACE Program Award - Direct Instructional Support Systems Inc. (dba SuperGames)]

PROGRAM AWARD - DIRECT INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT SYSTEMS INC. (DBA SUPERGAMES) AUTHORIZING THE AWARD OF FACADE ASSISTANCE AND CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT FUNDS TO HELP IMPROVE FACILITY EXTERIOR FACADE AND STREETSCAPE ALONG CERTAIN OF THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS (6580 HUNTLEY ROAD).

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMB ERS OF COUNCIL, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT UNDER THE NEW NAME AND MORE PHASE AS OPPOSED TO RECAP AND EXPANDED PROGRAM WE EXTENDED THE FACADE PROGRAM TO A LARGER GEOGRAPHIC AREA. HOWEVER, THIS ISN'T THE RIDGE AREA. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MRS PROGRAM AND HE CAN DO YET ANOTHER PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I WILL GO THROUGH THAT QUICKLY SINCE MR. GREESON STOLE MY FIRST TWO TALKING POINTS. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS SUPERGAMES. THEY ACTUALLY, THE DBA IS SUPERGAMES, THE LEGAL GAME IS DIRECT INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT SYSTEMS, 6580, THE FORMER TROPICAL NUT BUILDING.

THEY PLAN TO RELOCATE FROM LAKEVIEW PLAZA INTO THIS SPACE AND HAVE PURCHASED IT. WHICH IS GREAT THEY ARE CONTINUING TO INVEST IN HE COMMUNITY AND MADE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. TOTAL PROJECT COSTS EXPECTED TO EXCEED $150,000. THE MAX AWARD UNDER THIS PROGRAM IS 25,000. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. AGAIN, LONG TIME BUSINESS SINCE 1988. AND HAVE PLANS TO STAY HERE QUITE A BIT LONGER. HERE'S THE LOCATION ON HUNTLEY ROAD. EXTERIOR AERIAL VIEW LOOKING NORTH. THE COPE OF THE PROJECT, THEY ARE DOING A NEW PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO REPAVE THE EXISTING LOT BUT THEY ARE GOING TO PUT IN A NEW LOT TO THE NORTH.

THEY PLAN TO REPAINT THE BRICK, STONE AND WINDOW FRAMES.

THAT WILL AVE NEW SIGNAGE, FENCING.

THEY PLAN NEW EXTERIOR GARAGE DOORS AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.

CURRENT CONDITION OF BUILDING. AND THIS IS CONCEPT A.

THERE ARE TWO CONCEPTS, ONE IS A LIGHTER COLOR SCHEME.

ONE IS DARKER. I WILL POINT OUT THE APPLICANT DID WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN CENTER WHO WE PARTNER WITH ON THIS PROGRAM TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION AND DO THE

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RENDINGS. HERE IS THE SECOND COLOR SCHEME, THE DARKER COLOR SCHEME. THE EXISTING SIGNAGE AND A PROPOSED SIGNAGE. I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH BOTH OUR BUILDING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS FOR ALL WORKING BEING DONE.

AND THEN HERE'S A RENDER LOOKING NORTH.

AND ONE LOOKING EAST. SO THE C.I. C-MET LAST MONTH.

THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WITH A SCORE OF 75. WITH OUR SCORING, WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT 4 CATEGORIES. THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE, SCORING, NOMINAL AND EXTRAORDINARY. FOUR CATEGORIES, CURRENT CONDITIONS, SCOPE OF WORK, VIABILITY AND PAYMENT.

ECONOMIC IMPACT. 20 OUT OF A POSSIBLE 30.

THE BUILDING IS NOT IN TERRIBLE SHAPE BUT IN A HIGHLY VISIBLE AREA AND NEGLECTED. UNDER SCOPE OF WORK, RECEIVED 15 OUT OF 25. SO IT IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SCOPE OF WORK WITH MANY QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS.

THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN CENTER ON THE APPLICATION AND IMPROVEMENTS WILL GREATLY ENHANCE THE BUILDING. VIABILITY AND REPAYMENT.

THEY WENT OUT AND GOT TWO BIDS THAT WERE CONSISTENT WITH MARKET RATES. THE APPLICANT HAS A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE WITH LARGER PROJECTS AND HAS PLENTY OF CASH FLOW TO REPAY THE LOAN PORTION OF THIS.

AGAIN, THE FACADE PROGRAM IS HALF GRANT, HALF LOAN.

AND THEN FINALLY, ECONOMIC IMPACT.

THIS IS A STRONG ECONOMIC IMPACT.

AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A WIN FOR THE CITY.

LONG TIME BUSINESS RENTING FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

PURCHASING THE BUILDING AND CONTINUING TO INVEST.

THEY HAVE OVER 100 EMPLOYEES, IT COMES OUT TO 48 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT JOBS WHEN INCLUDING FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME.

THEY HAVE 100 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS FOR THAT, THEY RECEIVED A SCORE OUT OF 30 OF 30 FOR CONTEMPORARY.

EXTRAORDINARY. 75 OUT OF 100, WE RECOMMEND

APPROVAL. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> R. DOROTHY: IF WE APPROVED IT, WOULD WE HAVE A TIMELINE?

>> FOR THEM MOVING IN FOR THE WORK?

>> R. DOROTHY: THE WORK, BOTH? >> YEAH, SO THE BUILDING OWNER INDICATED THAT THE WORK WOULD START, I HAVE IT IN THE APPLICATION, AS RECENTLY AS OCTOBER AND COMPLETED BY MARCH

OF 2020. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF NOT, THIS RESOLUTION IS INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON, MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MS. KOWALCZYK, SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY.

LAST DISCUSSION FOR DISCUSSION, IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. THE RESOLUTION HAS PASSED.

[7.E. Ordinance No. 40-2019 Tree Dedication Marker on the Village Green for Lou Briggs.]

MOVING ON. ORDINANCE NO. 40-2019 TREE DEDICATION MARKER ON THE VILLAGE GREEN FOR LOU BRIGGS.

APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF A TREE DEDICATION MARKER ON THE SOUTHEAST VILLAGE GREEN TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER LOU BRIGGS TO THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY. INTRODUCED BY MR. MEYERS.

MOVING ONTO THE REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS.

[8.A.I. Liquor Permit Transfer - From Roadhouse 66 LLC to Nolah J Enterprises LLC]

LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFER LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFER - FROM ROADHOUSE 66 LLC TO NOLAH J ENTERPRISES LLC EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: THE OHIO DIVISION OF MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE ASKED THE DIVISION OF POLICE TO REVIEW THIS AND AND ASCERTAIN WHETHER THERE IS CAUSE FOR OBJECTION, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY.

AND SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU ADOPT A MOTION TO NOT REQUEST A

HEARING IF YOU REMEMBER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. SMI TH MOVES WE DO NOT REQUEST A LEGAL HEARING FOR THIS LIQUOR PERMIT TRANSFER, SECONDED BY MR. ANY FURTHER IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? MOVING ON.

[8.A.II. Worthington Age Friendly Initiative]

WORTHINGTON AGE FRIENDLY INITIATIVE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

>> M. GREESON: WE BEGAN TALKING ABOUT ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES, EV CHARGING STATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO END TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH A PRESENTATION ON ANOTHER MAJOR PRIORITY THAT YOU IDENTIFIED EARLIER THIS YEAR IN YOUR RETREAT.

WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE AN INTERN WORKING WITH THIS, KRISTA

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JOHNSON, THIS SUMMER AND FALL. WORKING WITH A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE INCLUDED COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK, NICK FROM OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION, COLINE LIGHT, MR. HURLEY AND OTHERS. TO PREPARE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT A WORTHINGTON-AGE-FRIENDLY INITIATIVE AND PROVIDE EDUCATION TO YOU THIS EVENING. I'M GOING TO TURN T OVER TO MR..

AS HE'S HELPED SHAPE THIS. AND THEN ASK MS. JOHNSTON TO SPEAK. THIS ALSO PROVIDES KRISTA AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A MAJOR PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY WE WANT ALL OF OUR INTERNS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO DO DURING THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD. I WANT TO THANK 24 THE COMMITTEE, BOTH COUNCILMEMBERS DOROTHY AND KOWALCZYK, AND CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION WITH NICK LINCOLN HOLDER AND MY VERY FOND EMPLOYEE, COLLEEN LIGHT, AT THE GRISWOLD CENTER. SO THANK YOU.

LASTLY, KRISTA, WHO HAS DONE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK.

AND HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO NOT ONLY ENGAGE IN THIS AND PREPARE THIS PRESENTATION BUT IS TALKING VERY FLUENTLY IN AGE FRIENDLY AND BY-P BY-PASSED MOSF US IN TERMS OF HER LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING AND ENGAGING OTHER FOLKS IN THE AREA.

WE APPRECIATE THAT AND EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND CITY STAFF. I'M PLEASED TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

THIS WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE AGE FRIENDLINESS AND THE COMMUNITY DRIVERS THROUGH THE WORTHINGTON AGE FRIENDLY

INITIATIVE. >> I'M GETTING PRETTY GOOD WITH

IT IT. >> BY THE END OF THE PRETTY SURE, CITY COUNCIL AND DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW SHIFTING POPULATION TRENDS AND SOCIAL DRIVERS ARE SHAPING FUTURE PLANNING NEEDS, THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT AGE FRIENDLINESS MIGHT PROVIDE, LESSONS LEARN AND TO RECOGNIZE THE LONG-TERM TRENDS THAT WILL REQUIRE THE CITY SUPPORT TO MAKE THE INITIATIVE SUCCESSFUL.

TO PROVIDE A BRIEF TOP DOWN OVERVIEW, THE GLOBAL POPULATION IS 7.7 BILLION PEOPLE IN GROWING, AND IT'S AGING EVEN FASTER. BY 2050, 2 BILLION PEOPLE OR 20% OVER THE AGE OF 65. AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN WORLD HISTORY, THOSE AGE 65 AND OLDER OUTNUMBER CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE. IN FIRST WORLD AND DEVELOPED NATIONS LIKE THE UNITED STATES, THE GROWTH RATE OF THE OLDER POPULATIONS MORE THAN 10,000 PEOPLE TURNING 65 IN THE U.S.

BY 2060, PREDICTED AMERICANS AGE 65 AND UP WILL DOUBLE FROM 52 TO 95 MILLION, SHY OF ONE QUARTER OF THE NATION'S POSSIBILITY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 65 BECAUSE OF RETIREMENT FROM THE WORKFORCE AND ACCESS TO SOCIAL SECURITY. THE NEXT GENERATION TO REACH THIS MILESTONE IS THE BABY BOOMERSBOOMERS.

THEY ARE LIVING DIFFERENT LIVES THAN PREVIOUS ENERATIONS AT THE SAME AGE, TRANSFORMING ECONOMIC, POLITICAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL DRIVERS NATIONWIDE. THEY ARE DELAYING RETIREMENT FOR NEST EGG, MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY, NATURAL RESOURCE USE IS RAPIDLY INCREASING AND GEOGRAPHICAL MIGRATION.

THE BUCKEYE STATE IS NOT IMMUNED.

IN 2018, 2.5 MILLION OHIOEN OVER THE AGE OF 60.

BY 2050 APPROXIMATELY 30% OF OHIO'S POPULATION IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPRISED OF PEOPLE AGE 60 AND OLDER.

IF WE ZOOM EVEN FURTHER, FRANKLIN COUNTY IS THE SECOND MOST SENIOR AGE OHORT IN THE STATE WITH A 65 AND UP POPULATION EXPECTED TO DOUBLE IN THE NEXT 35 YEARS.

WHILE COLUMBUS' IS THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTY, OTHER JURISDICTIONS DISPROPORTIONATELY OLDER THAN COLUMBUS.

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YOU WERE THE OLDEST OF ALL FRANKLIN COUNTY JURISDICTIONS BUT NOT AN OUTLIER. 24 OF THE COUNTY'S 30 JURISDICTIONS HAVE PEOPLE AGE 65 AND OLDER THAT MAKEUP AT LEAST 10% OF THEIR TOTAL POPULATIONS. WHAT DO ALL OF THESE NUMBERS AND STATS MEAN AND WHY SHOULD EVERYONE AND COUNCIL CARE? AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, CURRENT LIFESTYLE TRENDS, PEOPLE IN GENERAL ARE LIVING LONGER AND HEALTHIER LIVES AND LDER ADULTHOOD. WHILE NO ONE CAN AVOID GETTING OLDER, I FOUND A SECOND GRAY HAIR.

NO ONE CONSIDERS THEMSELVES ELDERLY.

WE'RE GETTING OLDER BUT I'M NOT ELDERLY.

I'M NOT SITTING ON THE PORCH KNITTING.

THIS IS ENCOMPASS AGING IN PLACE, TO LIVE IN THE RESIDENCES OF CHOICE WITH RESOURCES AS LONG AS SAFELY AND FINANCIALLY POSSIBLE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY IT DOES NOT MEAN IN-HOME HOSPICE AND A LIFE OF ISOLATION.

IT IS NOT A CONCEPT OF EXTREME EXTREMES.

IT IS PLANNING AND PREPARING FOR THE CHALLENGES THAT IMPACT PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLNESS.

WHEN A CITY INCORPORATES AGING IPLACE, A LIVABLE COMMUNITY IS REALIZED. THERE ARE 43,000 PEOPLE MOVING INTO CENTRAL OHIO EVERY YEAR. AND THESE NEW RESIDENTS ARE ALSO UNLIKE GENERATIONS PRIOR. FAMILY IS NOT REALITY. AND- FURTHER, 16% OF THE GENERAL POLICY SERVE IN VARYING CAPACITIES AS UNPAID CARE PROVIDERS BE IT TO A LOVED ONE OR FAMILY MEMBER OR NEIGHBOR. OR TO DECLINING NATIONAL BIRTH RATE TRENDS. WE KNOW THE IMPLICATION FROM CURRENT INCREASED RACIAL DIVERSITY, DIVIDED SOCIOECONOMIC CLASSES, COMPOUNDED URBAN DENSITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSES AND LIMITED HEALTH AND WELLNESS SERVICES WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AS A CITY THAT PRIDES ITSELF ON SMALL-TOWN CHARM AND CIVIC PARTICIPATION, WORTHINGTON'S APPROACH TO EMERGING ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS NEEDS IS IMPORTANT F IT INTENDED TO CONTINUE PROVIDING QUALITY OF LIFE SERVICES. IN 2019, AT YOUR LEADERSHIP RETREAT OU ESTABLISHED MAKING WORT AGE FRIENDLY AS A PRIORITY INTEREST HEADING INTO 2020. WORTHINGTON -- THIS MEANT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS OF AGE-FRIENDLY PLANNING IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A APPROACH THAT IMPLEMENTS BEST PRACTICES AND MEETS THE NEEDS OF CITY RESIDENTS.

THE FIRST STEP WAS TO DEFINE WHY AGE FRIENDLINESS EXISTS AS AN WORTHINGTON. A GROUP OF LEADERS, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK WITH THE OLDER POPULATION CONVENED TO CRAFT MESSAGING.

THIS RESULTED AFI MISSION STATEMENT AND FOUNDING PRINCIPLES. THE WORTHINGTON AGE FRIENDLY INITIATIVE PROVIDES QUALITY SERVICES THAT EMPOWER RESIDENTWISE THE RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CALL HOME.

THE CITY, ITS ORGANIZATIONS, CITIZENS ARE WORK TOGETHER AS AN INCLUSIVE, SUPPORTIVE AND DYNAMIC COMMUNITY FOR ALL.

A.F.I. CELEBRATE THE IFESTYLE AND EXPERIENCE OF EVERY RESIDENT, AND T NURTURESES A SECURE, HEALTHY E SUPPORTIVE AND HAPPY FUTURE FOR ALL. WORTHINGTON IS BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF INCLUSIVELY AND EMPOWERMENT BY RESPECTING, VALIDATING AND SUPPORTING THE LIVES OF EVERY RESIDENT.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THE WHY, WE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT AGE FRIENDLINESS LOOKED LIKE AND BEHAVED LIKE IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE A VARIETY OF INTEREST THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY WHILE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE NEEDS OF OLDER RESIDENTS.

THESE COMPLIMENT THE EIGHTH LIVEABILITY DOMAINS POSITIVELY IMPACT SOCIAL WELL-BEING FOR OLDER ADULTS.

OUTDOOR SPACES AND BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION, SOCIAL PARTICIPATION, CIVIC PARTICIPATION, EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING, RESPECT AND SOCIAL INCLUSION, AND COMMUNITY AND HEALTH SERVICES AND COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION.

A BASE LEVEL INTERNAL ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED AROUND THESE DOMAINS TO DENTIFY AND ORGANIZE CITY AND PARTNERSHIP ACTIVITIES THAT INFLUENCE WORTHINGTON'S COMMUNITY LIFESTYLE, ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING EEDS. AND THE RESULTING A.F.I.

ACTIVITY SNAPSHOT CREATES A STARTING POINT FOR ITY LEADERS, STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WORTHINGTON IS

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DOING AND NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL TO PROJECTED AGING TRENDS.

>> D. ROBINSON: CAN YOU PAUSE FOR A SECOND PLEASE? THE EIGHTH, THE TERM IS LIVEABILITY DOMAINS?

CORRECT. >> CORRECT.

>> D. ROBINSON: DID WE ESTABLISH THOSE?

>> NO BY THE A.A.R.P. NETWORK. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU.

>> THE A.F.I. SNAPSHOT IS READ TO BE LIKE A PREVIEW.

YOU HAVE A SNAPSHOT WITH TITLE AND INTENT.

THE CONNECTIONS TO LIVEABILITY DOMAINS AND PARTNERS THROUGH ICONS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE ND EXPLANATION OF THE OVERALL COMFORT BENEFIT. YOU CAN SEE THAT WORTHINGTON ALREADY DOES MANY THINGS THAT REFLECT AGE FRIENDLINESS AND YOU DO THEM WELL SO PROPS TO YOU. THIS FIRST EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE WORTHINGTON FIRE AND EMS DEPARTMENT.

THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS PROVIDE EMERGENCY RESPONSE FOR A VARIETY OF MAN MADE AND NATURAL AMERICANSS.

CONDUCT SAFETY INSPECTIONS, HAZARD MITIGATION AND PUBLICENTION. SEE SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS, LIKE INSTALLING SMOKE DETECTORS, THE DEPARTMENT PRODUCES BIG RESULTS FOR INFORMATION SHARING AND AGING IN PLACE.

THERE IS THE BIKE AND CITY'S MASTER PLAN.

COMPLICATED BY THE WAY FINDING PLAN AND COMPLETE STREETS INCREASING ACCESS, SAFETY AND USE OF CITYWIDE MOBILITY FOR ALL AGENCIES A AND AGENCIES. FOR HEALTH AND SOCIAL WELLNESS, SOCIAL PARTICIPATION AND INCREASED SAFETY AND SECURITY TO AGE IN PLACE. LAST, THERE IS THE LEADERSHIP WORTHINGTON SERVICE DAY. A GRANT THAT SUPPORTS AN ANNUAL DAY OF HELPING OLDER RESIDENTS TAKE CARE OF ERRANDS, LINKING TO HOUSING, HEALTH SERVICES, OCIAL PARTICIPATION AND RESPECT AND INCLUSION. THE GRANT BENEFITS MULTIGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY BUILDING, INGRAINS SOCIAL RESPECT AS A COMMUNITY PRINCIPLE AND IMPROVES THE WELLNESS FOR RESIDENTS TO AGE IN PLACE. WE TURNED OUR GAZE OUTWARD TO SPEAK TO NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES FURTHER ALONG IN IMPLEMENTING THEIR OWN VERSION OF AGE FRIENDLY SERVICES TO GAIN CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK AND LESSONS LEARNED ABOUT PROACTIVE APPROACHES TO THEIR LONG-TERM A.F.I. COMMITMENT.

VILLAGE ONNECTIONS IS A LOCAL NONPROFIT TO CREATE A GREATER COLUMBUS COMMUNITY OF OLDER ADULTS ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE.

IT'S NOT SOCIAL WORK. IT IS MERELY COMPRISED OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO PROVIDE GENERAL LIFE CARE SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE DURING THE WORKWEEK. RANGES FROM LIGHT HOME CARE TO DOCTORS OR GROCERY STORE. THE NONPROFIT SURVIVES ON MEMBERSHIP DUES. WHAT THEY HEAR MOST FREQUENTLY IS ABOUT THE LAX OF AFFORDABLE AND SUITABLE HOUSE FOR THE OLDER POPULATION. SO THINK ABOUT THAT.

IT'S 2019 AND PEOPLE FEEL MORE ALONE IN THE SAFETY OF THEIR OWN HOME BY LIVING IN A WORLD THAT IS MORE CONNECTED AND ACCESSIBLE THAN EVER BEFORE. COMMUNITIES OUTREACH ABOUT AGING ALSO TAKES WORK. TO BREAKDOWN STIGMAS ON BOTH END OF THE SPECTRUM. TO EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE GOALS. I'M NOT ELDERLY.

I DON'T NEED TO BE PART OF THIS. AND PEOPLE THINK CARING FOR RECOMMENDERLY MEANS PLAYING DOMINOES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE D TALKING ABOUT.

TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND WANT TO BUILD A SOCIAL CONTRACT AND TO FIND DIVERSE AND MULTIGENERATIONAL PARTNERS TO CHAMPION A.F.I. THE CITY OF DUBLIN LAUNCHED THE PLAN IN 2018 TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S FUTURE NEEDS FOR RESIDENTS AND APPROACHED THROUGH AN AGING LENS.

THREE OVERARCHING THEMES, NAVIGATION, HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES AND -- -- -- GIVING THE CONNECTIONS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, DUBLIN CHOSE TO NOT BECOME AN A.A.R.P. MEMBER.

IT INSTEAD OPERATES COMMUNITY BASED OUTREACH AND SERVICES AND

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COLLABORATION WITH DIVERSE PARTNERSHIPS.

TO IMPROVE INCREASE TRANSPORTATION USER FRIENDLINESS, DUBLIN PARTNERED WITH SHARE THAT TRANSPORTS OLDER RESIDENTS AROUND THE CITY. PARTNERING WITH SEN TAROT, THE FOREVER DUBLIN ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT FOR 55 AND UP POPULATION FOR ALL CITY SERVICES. TO ADDRESS FUTURE HOUSING TRENDS AND CHALLENGES, DUBLIN PARTNERED WITH MORPC TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE NEEDS THAT FOSTER A LONG-TERM MARKET THAT IMPROVE THE LIVES OF EVERYONE. THE STRATEGY RESULTS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE INVESTMENT AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO TO NEW OR RESTRUCTURED ZONING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, STREAMLINING CLEARANCE PROCESSES AND EFFECTIVENESS OF RULES AND REQUIREMENTS.

THE TAKE AWAYS WERE TO LIVE TO YOUR COMMUNITY EARLY ND OFTEN TO MAKE SURE INTERESTS ARE MEETING NEEDS AND DIVERSIFY YOUR FUNDING RESOURCES AND PARTNERSHIPS TO INCREASE PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS VERSUS HAVING ONE AGE FRIENDLY POT OF MONEY TO WORK TOWARDS. ONE CITY THAT HAS COMMITTED TO THE A.A.R.P. IS WESTERVILLE. AS ITS OLDER POPULATION SURPASS NATION. CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS WOULD IMPACT SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DO IT SOON.

IN 2018, AGE FRIENDLY WESTERVILLE WAS FORMALIZED INTO FUTURE SERVICE PLANNING. THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF HOSTING PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND LIVABLE COMMUNITY SURVEY. WHICH BEGAN IN MAY UNTIL MARCH OF NEXT YEAR. HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGES. HOUSING HAS FOCUSED ON THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS TO AGE IN PLACE. THE RISING COST OF AFFORDABILITY. AND THE SHIFT OF RENTERS VERSUS BUYERS. TRANSPORTATION, MANY WANT INCREASED TRANSPORT OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY LIMITS.

WESTERVILLE WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THREE PROPOSALS THIS FALL.

ONE IN COORDINATION WITH CODA, ONE PRIVATE BUSINESSES LIKE UBER, LYFT AND SHARE AND ANOTHER CITY RUN OPTION.

THE TAKE AWAY INCLUDED CONVENING A.F.I. LEADERSHIP WITH MULTIGENERATIONAL RESIDENTS AND OTHER COMMUNITY ADVOCATES AND CONVENE THEM NOW. THIS WILL HELP NEAR AND LONG-TERM PLANNING SUCH AS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE INITIATIVE AS THEY RECOMMEND THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY LED AND NOT A CITY ED INITIATIVE. ORGANIZING YOUR GROUP NOW WILL ALSO HELP MANAGE THE WORKLOAD IN TERMS OF APPROACH AND EXPECTATIONS THERE ARE CLEAR SIMILARITIES, ALL ENGAGING RESIDENTS TO DEVELOP LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR COMMUNITY INTERESTS LIKE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND SOCIAL INCLUSION. WHILE EVERY COMMUNITY'S END GOAL IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL CITIZENS, HOW THEY ARE COMMITTING TO ACHIEVING THAT IS NOT COOKIE CUTTER.

AS A NONPROFIT, VILLAGE CONNECTIONS PRIMARY UTILIZES PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT TO ACHIEVE GOALS. DUBLIN IS CAPABLE OF MANAGING THE INITIATIVE IN COLLABORATION WITH DIVERSE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND WESTERVILLE BECAME AN A.A.R.P. NETWORK MEMBER.

THEY WANTED TO ENGAGE WITH CIVIL SOCIETY EXPERTS AND PARTNERSHIP TO LEARN ABOUT SIMILARITIES, OPPORTUNITIES AND BEST PRACTICES MOVING FORWARD. WORTHINGTON WAS WISE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS AND LESSONS LEARNED. AND CREATING WORTHINGTON A.F.I.

IS ITS OWN UNIQUE PROCESS AND EVERY CITIZEN WILL HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE INTEREST AND WANTS AND NEEDS.

IF I WERE SURVEYED ABOUT COMMUNITY LIVEABILITY, I SEE MYSELF WITHIN WORTHINGTON A.F.I. SOCIAL PARTICIPATION AND INCLUSION ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

VOLUNTEERISM IS THE PRIMARY WAY I DISCONNECT FROM WORK AND SCHOOL TO MAINTAIN MY MENTAL HEALTH AND EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. THE NATION'S ECONOMY ALL BUT GUARANTEES I WILL WORK WELL BEYOND THE AGE OF 65 AND PROBABLY NEVER BE ABLE TO OWN A HOME.

KNOWING THAT EMPLOYMENT IS AVAILABLE WHEN I'M OLDER SO I CAN PAY THE RENT IS IMPORTANT. I'M AN UNAPOLOGETIC DOG MOM.

I HAVE THE GREATEST DOG IN THE WORLD.

WHEN I WANT TO GO OUT ON A TRAIL RUN, I WANT O FEEL SAFE, SECURE AND HEALTHY IN MY SURROUNDINGS. I LIVE IN A DIFFERENT CITY THAN MY PARENTS IN THEIR UPPER 60S AND LIVE ALONE.

KNOWING PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH BASIC HOME CARE CARE OR IFE SERVICES PUTS ME AT EASE.

THEY HAVE ACCESS TO PEOPLE AND RESOURCES WHO WILL RESPECT AND REPORT THEM IN MY ABSENCE. I'M NOT HAVING CHILDREN.

BEING PART OF A COMMUNITY BEING SUPPORTED BY MULTIGENERATIONAL

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PEOPLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THAT WAS A LOT.

TONIGHT WAS BIG. THERE IS A LOT FOR YOU TO PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. BUT MY ONE GOAL WAS TO INTRODUCE WORTHINGTON A.F.I. AND GET LEADERSHIP ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT IT IS. THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO INCLUSIVE AND EMPOWERING SERVICES THAT RESPECT, VALIDATE AND SUPPORT EVERY CITIZEN TO AGE IN PLACE WHERE THEY WISH TO CALL HOME. THE WORTHINGTON A.F.I. MISSION STATEMENT IS A SANDBOX. THE FOUNDING PRINCESPLES ARE THE IS SHOVEL, BUCKETS AND MOLDS. A.A.R.P. MEMBER NETWORK, INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROGRAM, THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS THAT REFLECT AGE FRIENDLINESS ON INDEPENDENT OR AS-NEEDED BASIS OR THROUGH COMMUNITY INPUT. TONIGHT WAS NOT TO GIVE A PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK DATA THAT CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO ACTIONABLE INFORMATION IT HASN'T BEEN COMPILED BUT WE'RE STARTING TO ACT. WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND LOOKING AT DATA THROUGH AN AGING LENS.

TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND DIVERSE SOURCES.

YOU ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

HOWEVER THE CITY PROCEEDS, THE INPUT OF CAPITAL LIKE STAFF, TIME, DOLLARS AND RESEARCH AND HOW TO DISPERSE THOSE RESOURCES AND COORDINATION WITH OTHER CITY PRIORITIES, THAT WILL REQUIRE COUNCIL'S THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.

THIS MEANS GUARANTEEING THERE ARE DEQUATE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

THE NATURE OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS NEW AND EXISTING FOR PERFORMANCE DEVELOPMENT. THE NATURE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH RESPECT TO A.F.I. LONG-TERM PLANNING AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND TIMING OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ALL INTANDEM WITH OTHER RESOURCES AND CITY INITIATIVES IN PLAY.

INCLUDING THE ALIGNMENT ALONG SIDE WORTHINGTON'S VISIONING PROCESS AND REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO WITH RESPECT TO THE 2020 OPERATING BUDGET. ONCE STAFF KNOW HOW COUNCIL INTEND SAID TO MOVE FORWARD N PATH AND DESIGN E CAN ACCURATELY ASSESS WHAT WILL WE REQUIRED.

THE ONE RECOMMENDATION I DO GIVE REGARDLESS OF FUTURE FORMAT OR TIMING IS TO FIND YOUR LOCAL A A.F.I. CHAMPION AND FIND THEM NOW TO KEEP THIS MOMENTUM GOING. WORTHINGTON HAS GREAT SERVICES.

WE HAVE A WHOLE SPREADSHEET WE TALK ABOUT A DIVERSE SET OF THINGS WITH A DIVERSE SET OF PARTNERS.

WHO ARE THE CHANGE AGENTS TO KEEP DOING THOSE IN THE FACE OF CHANGES AND STAFFS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

BY HAVING CHAMPIONS ENGAGED AND AVAILABILITY, WORTHINGTON A.F.I.

WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ONCE THE CITY IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS COMMITMENT. WE WOULD LIKE O TRANSITION TO OPEN DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL TO FORMALLY DOCUMENT QUESTION AND COMMENTS YOU HAVE HEADING INTO THE FALL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE NEED TO THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK AND EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. AND SO MUCH WONDERFUL, SO UCH INTO THIS PRESENTATION. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT JOB YOU'VE DONE. I'M SURE EVERYONE AGREES.

DARREN AS WELL. THEY WERE INFLUENTIAL IN THIS.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE COMMENTS.

WOW, THAT WAS AMAZING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TO KRISTA, THE COMMITTEE, EVERYBODY THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER AND CHRISTY, YOU DO A PHENOMENAL JOB OF MAKING THE CASE FOR WHY WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.

IT'S A MATTER, EXACTLY AS YOU SAID, INCLUSIVELY AND EMPOWERMENT FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, REMOVING BARRIERS TO ENSURE EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY EVERYTHING OUR COMMUNITY HAS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING IT IN SUCH A NICE PRESENTATION AND A COMPELLING PRESENTATION. I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.

JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON THE IDEA OF FORMALLY JOINING AT THE AGE FRIENDLY NETWORK THROUGH A.A.R.P.

I WANT TO MAKE SOME THINGS CLEAR.

LIVEABILITY COMMUNITIES IS A CONCEPT.

THE THINGS YOU DO UNDER THE DOMAINS TO MAKE YOUR COMMUNITY LIVABLE FOR ALL AGES AND ABILITIES.

A.A.R.P. HAS A NETWORK OF WHAT THEY CALL, AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES THAT IMPLEMENT THOSE POLICIES TO MAKE COMMUNITIES LIVABLE. SO AGE-FRIENDLY LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ARE INTERCHANGEABLE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

FORMALLY JOINING THE NETWORK WOULD GIVE YOU CCESS TO OVER

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400 COMMUNITIES NATION WIDE THAT HAVE ALREADY JOINED.

I JUST SAW THE STATE OF MICHIGAN DECLARED THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME AN AGE-FRIENDLY STATE. WHICH I THINK IS ALSO ANOTHER CHALLENGE. THAT'S MY DAY JOB, TRYING TO WORK TOWARD OUR STATE BECOMING AGE FRIENDLY.

BUT IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR RESOURCES WITH EACH OTHER AND LEARN FROM OUR FELLOW MEMBERS.

A.A.R.P. ALSO IN SOME DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH A.A.R.P.

OHIO, THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME SEED MONEY AND FUNDING FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US MOVE THIS ALONG.

I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING THE VIVISIONING PROCESS MOVING FORWD WILL HELP US GATHER INFORMATION TO BETTER FRAME HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I HAVE ORE SUGGESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FOLK'S THOUGHTS AND POTENTIAL QUESTIONS FIRST.

>> WHAT MS. KOWALCZYK AND WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID, THAT YOU KNOW TO EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK AND HOURS OUTSIDE OF YOU REGULAR JOBS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE AND LIVE IN THEIR HOME, LOVING WORTHINGTON, LOVING BEING ABLE TO INTERACT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

>> R. DOROTHY: I DO HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING ON.

>> SURE. OKAY.

YEAH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, FIRST OF ALL LET ME TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS IF YOU ARE -- YOU WANT TO FORMALLY JOIN THE AGE FRIENDLY NETWORK.

THE EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT TO DO THIS.

AND THERE IS A FIVE-YEAR PROCESS.

WHICH STARTS WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS USUALLY A GROUP OF CITY LEADERS AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT COME TOGETHER LIKE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE HOW TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS IN THE ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE WHERE THERE ARE GAB GAPS AND BARRIERS AND THINGS WE CAN DO BETTER.

WE PUT TOGETHER BASED ON THAT A STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS IS SOUNDING FAMILIAR, TO THE VISIONING PROCESS.

SO YES, EXACTLY. SO I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT.

AND THEN YOU PUT TOGETHER FOR STRATEGIC PLAN AND IMPLEMENT IT.

AND SO THAT'S TYPICALLY A FIVE-YEAR PROCESS.

THERE AREN'T A LOT OF REALLY STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS OTHER

THAN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE A. A.R.P.? AS OPPOSED TO OUR --

>> CORRECT. DUBLIN IS NOT AN OFFICIAL A.A.R.P. MEMBER. THEIR PROCESS HOSTING OPEN HOUSES, PUBLIC FORUMS, DOING A SURVEY, A LOT OF THE STEPS ARE SIMILAR. THE BENEFIT IS THAT YOU HAVE THESE MEMBER CITY CONNECTIONS, YOU CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

THERE IS A CONFERENCE IN BUFFALO THAT THEY HOSTED.

IT TALKS ABOUT BEST PRACTICES, LONG-TERM TRENDS, THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD, INNOVATIVE THINGS STRUCTURES BEING AN ISLAND. AGE FRIENDLY COLUMBUS AND FRACTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT STEPS ARE SIMILAR -- FRANKLIN

COUNTY. >> I THINK DUBLIN TOOK IT ON AS THEIR OWN. THEY ARE ENGAGING IN CONTRACTS, WHEREAS, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, WE WOULD WANT TO POOL THE RESOURCES OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT TO MAKE IF WE JOIN THE NETWORK.

THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO THIS INITIATIVE.

AND TO LOOKING AT THINGS THROUGH AN AGE-FRIENDLY LENS.

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SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS DECLARE PERHAPS THROUGH A RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND GO THROUGH THOSE STEPS. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE THEM SPECIFICALLY DEFINED THE POINT WE MAKE THE COMMITMENT. BUT THROUGH THAT FIVE-YEAR PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH STEPS.

I THINK PART OF THAT COULD BE WE START WITH THE VISIONING PROCESS. PART OF THAT CAN BE THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS. SO WE CAN DETERMINE FROM THAT WHAT INTEREST EVERYONE HAS THAT MEET THE EIGHTH OMAINS AND PROMOTE LIVEABILITY. AND WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES WE CAN RESOLVE AND SEE IF THOSE FIT WITHIN THE AGE-FRIENDLY LENS.

IF THERE IS MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE CAN DO MORE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YOU ARE SUGGESTING, I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. WE COULD ALMOST PIGGYBACK OFF THE PRODUCT OF THE VISIONING COMMITTEE.

AND EXTRAPOLATE FROM THERE AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE, MAYBE NOT QUESTIONS, BUT AT LEAST ISSUES WILL BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE

VISIONING PROCESS? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I HAVE NO DOUBT. IF WE FEEL WE NEED TO DO MORE REACHING OUT AS THE PROCESS IS MOVING FORWARD OR PERHAPS ENGAGING THE VISIONING COMMITTEE WITH AT LEAST ONE FOCUS GROUP THAT IS FOCUSED ON OLDER ADULTS, I HOPE THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN SUGGEST AT PART OF THE PROCESS. GATHERING THAT DATA.

AND DECIDING IF IT'S SUFFICIENT TO FORMULATE PLAN THAT PERHAPS AGAIN COULD BE PART OF THE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS. OR WE COULD TAKE A SEPARATE TRACK. I THINK THE IDEA IS THIS CAN BE FLEXIBLE. SO WE CAN SET OUR GOALS IN THAT WAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO DICTATE BY X DATE WILL HAVE THIS DONE. IT'S THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO

THE PROCESS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE, COMMISSION OR SOMETHING OVERSEEING WORKING WITH THIS? WHAT WILL BE THE GOVERNANCE OR METHOD? I UNDERSTAND THE VISIONING COMMITTEE IS DOING THE VISIONING.

BEYOND THAT, I'M NOT SURE. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THERE IS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THE CITY COULD TAKE THE LEAD.

OR FORM AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WHICH IS WHAT S SUGGESTED.

MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THAT. MADE UP OF VARIOUS EOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO. NOW I KNOW CITY STAFF HAVE PLENTY OF PRIORITIES THEY ARE WORKING ON.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT ANOTHER COMMISSION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE STAFFED. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IF WE COULD GET AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD OWN THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

THAT ENABLES EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO START TO BUY IN TO

IT AS WELL. >>

>> D. ROBINSON: MS. KOWALCZYK, ABOUT THE EARLIER FOCUS OF A.F.I.? IS IT REALLY FOCUSED ON SENIORS? OR IS IT ALL AGES? I HEARD THAT TERM USED EARLIER.

COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: SURE. I THINK THE CONCEPT IS LIVABLE COMMUNITIES FOR ALL AGES BY LOOKING AT WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE BARRIERS THAT WOULD IMPEDE PARTICULARLY OLDER ADULTS FROM PARTICIPATING. BUT THE THINGS WE IDENTIFY HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE POPULATION. THERE ARE THINGS THAT OLDER PEOPLE WANT THAT FOR SAY THE MILLENNIALS WANT WALKABILITY AND BIKABLE AND THINKING LIKE THAT. THERE IS WAYS OF -- BIKEABILITY -- WAYS OF SAFETY AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

BUT YES, THE FOCUS STARTS WITH LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF OLDER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THEY HAVE INCLUSIVELY AND EMPOWERMENT.

>> D. ROBINSON: A COMMENT TO SPEAK TO THE FACTS THAT WERE PUT OUT THERE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SENIORS IN WORTHINGTON.

THIS IS TRUE, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS BUT I KNOW ALSO THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF MILLENNIALS AND SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN IN OUR COMPUTER IS ALSO GOING UP CONCURRENT WITH -- COMMUNITY -- OLDEST SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION GOING UP.

IT'S REALLY IN THE MIDDLE WE'RE SEEING A RELATIVE DECLINE.

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WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE CITY. SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.

WE'RE AT THE OTHER END OF THE LIFE CYCLE COMPARED TO OLDER

FOLKS. >>

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: AT THAT POINT IN HIS LIFE, WHERE YOU KNOW, I AM IN PRERETIREMENT PLANNING.

AND WE'RE CONTEMPLATING WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO LIVE IF IT'S OT HERE. WE HAVE PENGNT FOR THE MOUNTAINS. WE HAVE A CHECKLIST WHEN WE LOOK AT COMMUNITIES. ASIDE FROM THE SENIOR TYPES OF THINGS LIKE HEALTHCARE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS WHAT A NEW PARENT IS LOOKING FOR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS US ABOUT SOME TOWNS IS THEY HAVE A COLLEGE THERE. I KNOW THAT I HAVE THEATER AND I HAVE MUSIC AND I MAY HAVE SPORTS.

AND I ALSO HAVE 18 TO 22 YEARS OLDS SO I'M NOT SURROUNDING IN SUN CITY, ARIZONA SURROUNDING BY A BUNCH OF 70 YEARS OLD.

I DON'T SEE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THESE TWO CONCEPTS ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. I'M LOOKING FOR THE SAME THING ALMOST THE NEW PARENT IS WITH JUST SOME TWEAKS.

AND I THINK THE HOLES ARE THE SAME FOR BOTH SIDES.

>> AS COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK, MENTIONED, AGE FRIENDLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THE SAME WAY A.D.A. COMPLIANCE.

IF YOUR SIDEWALKS HAVE A RAMP ACCESS, YOU ARE PREPARING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, WHEELCHAIRS.

BUT THE RAMP ALLOWS THE NEW MOM WITH A STROLLER, THE SIX-YEAR-OLD RIDER THEIR BIKE, THE MILLENNIAL N CRUTCHES AND NEEDS TO WALK AND GET COFFEE. THE ONE THING PROJECTED THROUGH THE PHYSICAL HANDICAP ADA COMPLIANT LENS CARES FOR EVERYONE. IT DOES THE SAME EXACT THING FOR ALL OF THESE EIGHT LIVEABILITY DOMAINS.

THAT IS THE NTENT, GOAL AND DIRECTIVE.

>> D. SMITH: I WANT TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER IN MY OWN RESEARCH ABOUT THESE CIRCULATORS. THEY HAVE ALWAYS INTERESTED ME.

I ALWAYS PICTURED A WORTHINGTON TROLLEY BACK IN THE DAY.

THESE OTHER CITIES YOU RESEARCHED, CAN YOU GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THEIR SCOPE? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE THE RESEARCH ON WHERE THEY TAKE PEOPLE? WHO THEY PRIORITIZE?

IS IT SENIORS SPECIFICALLY? >> DUBLIN THE SENIOR CIRCULATED DEALS WITH THE 55 AND UP POPULATION FOR THE THREE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, FOR POPULATIONS AND HOMES.

THREE ROUTES WITHIN THE CITY THEY TAKE THEM TO GROCERY STORES, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS OR HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME AREAS. IT'S BEEN SO WELCOMED BY THAT POPULATION THEY ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING TO TWO MORE ADDITIONAL ROUTES SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SENIOR CIRCULATOR AND CREATING A GENERAL DUBLIN CIRCULATOR.

BECAUSE PEOPLE, MILLENNIALS THAT DON'T HAVE CARS, HIGH SCHOOLERS WITHOUT CARS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR TRANSIT OPTION TO GET AROUND TO REDUCE CARBON FOOTPRINT OR NOT BE BEHIND THE WHEEL AT TRAFFIC HOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT AND THAT IS UP FOR PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC CIRCULATOR.

>> SECOND. IS THAT A ROUTE? >> YES.

>> D. SMITH: NOT LIKE I'M GOING TO PRETTY BUTTON.

>> THEY HAVE PRIVATE OPTIONS ON THE WEBSITE THAT ADDRESS LIKE A LYFT OR UBER. GENERAL PRIVATE SHARE RIDE SERVICE. THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, THE CITY OF DUBLIN OES NOT AT LEAST AT THIS POINT PROVIDE THAT OR HAVE AN INTENT TO.

THEY ARE KEEPING IT AT THE GENERAL CIRCULATOR BUS LEVEL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: HOW ARE THEY FUNDING THIS?

>> THE CITY OF DUBLIN IS FUNDING IT THEMSELVES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THEY HAVE THE FUNDS?

>> YEAH, THEY ARE FORTUNATELY CAPABLE.

SOME ARE, SOME AREN'T. THEY ARE FORTUNATE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU MENTIONED WESTERVILLE.

>> IN THE FALL CITY COUNCIL IS BEING PRESENTED WITH A PUBLIC, PRIVATE AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CODA, PRESENTED IN THE FALL INTEREST A WESTERVILLE PUBLIC CIRCULATOR.

IT HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED BUT WILL.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: THERE ARE SO MANY OPTION WE COULD TRY TO PROMOTE LIVEABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE VILLAGE ONCEPT I THINK WOULD BE PERFECT FOR WORTHINGTON. AND JUST TO POINT OUT, VILLAGE CONNECTIONS IS -- BUT VILLAGE NETWORK IS A NATIONAL NETWORK OF GROUPS, SEPARATE AND APART FROM BEING AGE FRIENDLY, WHERE IT IS A MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION. YOU PAY DO YOUS AND ACCESS TO

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SERVICES OR REFERRALS. GERMAN VILLAGE.

THAT COULD BE A SOLUTION WHERE IF WE DON'T HAVE A CIRCULATOR, WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS WILLING TO DRIVE FOLKS AROUND IF THEY NEED HELP GETTING SOMEWHERE. THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS.

THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WE COULD DO THAT WOULD FIT OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO IS A PROCESS TO HELP US IDENTIFY THAT AND TRY THINGS OUT.

CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES, LOOKING AT LYFT IN ORDER TO ELP AND TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.

AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT REALLY ENABLES US TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH A LENS THAT KIND OF BRINGS ANOTHER TOGETHER AND CONNECTS IT TO PEOPLE AND OUR COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT AND EMPOWERMENT AS WE ALL AGE HERE IN WORTHINGTON.

>> ONE THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, A FEW, AT LEAST BETH AND I, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A TYPE OF RESOLUTION FOR THE FUTURE TO COMMIT TO THIS PROCESS PERHAPS HAVING AN ADVISORY BOARD OR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. I'M LOOKING FOR -- I KNOW MS. KOWALCZYK AND I TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA F HAVING AN RESOLUTION THAT WOULD START US DOWN THIS PATH.

THIS HAD BEEN A PRIORITY FROM THE RETREAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR OR FAST COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE AS WE GETTING READY TO GO INTO BUDGET. BUT I WANTED TO SEE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I HAD A QUESTION.

HOW LONG IS MS. JOHNSTON AROUND? >> OCTOBER 25, CORRECT? 6. OCTOBER 26.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WHAT YEAR?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: THAT KILLS THAT IDEA.

>> D. ROBINSON: COULD WE SEE A PROPOSAL ABOUT WHAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE REFERRING TO? SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A TIME TO CONSIDER AND UNDERSTAND AND TALK WITH ONE ANOTHER ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD MEAN BEFORE WE BRING A

RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO YOU FEEL STAFF CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER WITH

OF KRISTA'S TIME. >> SURE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OUR TAKE AWAY FROM HERE IS WE'LL GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE IN THERE ND

DISCUSSIONS TO COME WITH THAT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER OR OTHER IDEAS HOW WE MOVE IT FORWARD, I'M HA HAPPY TO DO THA. BEFORE KRISTA LEAVES, SHE'S A PERFECT PERSON TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM, LET US KNOW.

>> FORWARD WITH SOME DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR RESOLUTION.

HOW FAST ARE WE CONSIDERING BUDGETS COMING UP AND EVERYTHING, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK THE LAST TIME COUNCILMEMBER AND KOWALCZYK TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE'LL GET INFORMATION OUT.

WANTED TO KEEP THIS MOVISH IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND MAKING SURE TO NOT OVER LOOK STAFF, ESPECIALLY WITH BUDGET SEASON.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU, AGAIN, DARREN AND COLLEEN AND THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE COMMENTS AS THIS MOVES FORWARD. ALL RIGHT.

[9. Reports of Council Members]

MR. GREESON, DO WE HAVE CITY REPORTS?

>> M. GREESON: A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEN WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, THE LAST THING I WANT TO REQUEST IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT I NEED TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU ON A COUPLE OF APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION OF PUBLIC OFFICIAL ISSUES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE NEGOTIATIONS. I'LL BE BRIEF.

BUT I'M PLEASED TO REPORT WE'VE DISTRIBUTED THE OPERATING BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AS YOUR CITY MANAGER, I HAVE A CHARTER REQUIREMENT TO DO THAT 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR. AND SO, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF AND DIRECTORS FOR PARTICULARLY, MR. BARTTER AND MS. STEWART FOR THEIR WORK IN HELPING DEVELOP THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU. AND ORIGINALLY WE ERE GOING TO START THE FORMAL PRESENTATIONS NEXT WEEK BUT WE HAVE THE JOINT

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MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO THE FORMAL BUDGET PRESENTATIONS WILL START ON THE 3RD MONDAY IN OCTOBER AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SHARING INFORMATION WITH YOU. I'M PLEASED TO REPORT 161 IS

OPEN GOING TO THE WEST. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHOA!

>> M. GREESON: BUT IN THE SPRING AT SOME POINT, THEY WILL BE A SIMILAR CLOSURE AS THEY DO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO WE'RE GRATEFUL THEY MOVED QUICKLY.

JUST TO SHARE THE VISION COMMITTEE IS MEETING TOMORROW.

HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU ARE RECEIVING THE MEETING MATERIALS IN EMAIL AND OTHER, I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY ARE WORKING TO FINALIZE THE SCOPE WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND WILL CONSIDER A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND THE SCOPE OF WORK WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL HOPEFULLY AT THE THIRD MEETING THIS MONTH. WE HAVE THE JOINT MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT'S THE SAME TIME BUT A DIFFERENT PLACE. WE'LL BE AT THE WORTHINGTON EDUCATION CENTER. THE AGENDA HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE. THE FULL PACKAGE FOR THAT MEETING WILL COME OUT THURSDAY AS IS CUSTOMARY.

HOMECOMING ACTIVITIES ARE THIS WEEKEND FOR THOMAS WORTHINGTON.

SO JUST A HEADS UP. THE PARADE IS THURSDAY, 6:00 WITH A BONFIRE AFTERWARDS. THERE WILL BE SOME, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, IF YOU WILL AS THE PARADE ROUTES BOTH UP EVENING STREET INTO WORTHINGTON ESTATES. I AM SADDENED TO REPORT THAT I HEARD FROM THE FAMILY OF FORMER COUNCILMEMBER DON BRENNAN TODAY.

HE WAS A COUNCILMEMBER WHO SERVED FROM 1977 TO 1983.

WAS A LONG-TIME WORTHINGTON PERSON AND HE PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 86. HE RAISED SIX KIDS HERE IN WORTHINGTON. SERVED HIS COMMUNITY ON COUNCIL.

AND I GOT TO KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE OWNS, THE FAMILY OWNS NUMEROUS PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF WORTHINGTON.

SO I WANTED TO REPORT THAT. AND WE'LL BE EXTENDING OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB INSON, WE HAD TALKED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BRING UP ABOUT THE PACE PROGRAM ABOUT SCHEDULING IT. NOT PACE, YEAH, IT WAS PACE.

WE WOULD ADD THAT TO YOUR REMARKS NOW.

>> D. ROBINSON: I'M NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION RIGHT

NOW. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU WERE ASKING WHETHER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN TO SCHEDULE A

PRESENTATION. >> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. THE RELATION PACE PROGRAM, IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY. A IN/WIN TYPE OF PROGRAM.

OHIO IS THE FOURTH STATE IN THE NATION THAT HAS PASSED THE STATE WIDE ORDINANCE THAT FACILITATES THIS.

I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I BELIEVE IT COULD BE DISCUSSED AND EXECUTED FAIRLY EXPEDITIOUSLY AND FACILITATE A RANGE OF ENERGY SAVING AND PRODUCTION IMPROVEMENTS ON PERSON'S HOME THROUGH SMART FINANCING MECHANISM. I THINK WE'LL FIND IT PRETTY

EXCITING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WONDERING ABOUT STAFF TIME IN-LIEU OF BUDGET AND WHEN E

WOULD -- >>

>> R. DOROTHY: WE HAVE A LOT OF

>> D. ROBINSON: OKAY. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION FOR INSTANCE FACILITATING SOLAR INSTALLATIONS ON HOMES WAS WIDELY SHARED BY COUNCIL. IT'S NOT?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT MAY BE WIDELY SHARED BY COUNCIL BUT NOT BY THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS ONCE.

AND IT WAS RANCOROUS. >> D. ROBINSON: REFERRING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. YEAH.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: BE CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD DO.

WE COULD MAINTAIN THE CODES YOU WORKED HARD ONTO TIGHTEN UP.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I'M -- I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HEARING A PRESENTATION N IT. I WOULD RATHER WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET. I'M JUST -- I AM MORE SKEPTICAL OF IT THAN YOU BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT ONCE.

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AND MET RESISTANCE I DID NOT THINK I WOULD MEET.

>> D. ROBINSON: HOW ABOUT A SIMPLE DISCUSSION PRESENTATION?

>> M. GREESON: I MEAN, I KNOW THE BARTTER AND MCCORKLE HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY.

I THINK THERE ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE REGION T THAT WOD BE WILLING TO PRESENT TO US, INCLUDING KAYLA BELL WITH BRICKLER AND ECKLER OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT WHO DO A LOT OF WORK WITH THE AECID. AND HAVE DONE THE MODEL ORDINANCES RELATED TO THIS FOR COMMUNITIES LIKE BEXLEY.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO HAVE SOMETHING CONVERSENT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITHOUT A LOT OF --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WAS AT THE CENTRAL OHIO MAYOR MANAGER'S MEETING AND SAW BEN KESSLER, WHO IS THE MAYOR OF BEXLEY. AND HE SAID, BO BONNIE, IT TOOK LIKE NO TAFF TIME. IT WAS A NO-BRAINER, THAT WAS HIS REACTION. BUT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CONCERN WITH THE HISTORIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> M. GREESON: I THINK -- WE CAN BE PREPARED TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL INFORMATION OR BRING SOMEBODY TO THE TABLE THAT CAN GIVE THE INFORMATION TO YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THOSE FOLKS SCHEDULED AND THEN YOU CAN PASS JUDGMENT ON WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD. OR WHETHER IT BECOMES A PRIORITY

WITH THAT INFORMATION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING AFTER BUDGET AND BEFORE THE YEAR END? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING? OR WHAT -- WHAT?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IS THERE AN AFTER BUDGET BEFORE YEAR END?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IS THERE A --

>> CHRISTMAS EVE. >> COMMENT. THE PROGRAM IS COMMENCING JANUARY 1, 2020. WORD IS THAT COLUMBUS IS GOING TO PASS LEGISLATION ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS TO BE ABLE TO KICKOFF THIS PROGRAM IN JANUARY OF 2020.

IT'S SOMETHING I THINK IS -- WILL BE WIDELY APPEALING TO OUR PUBLIC. CAN BE DONE FAIRLY EXPEDITIOUSLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION SOON.

>> APPROPRIATE PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SCHEDULE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM HEARING IT THE SOONER THE BETTER.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. DOR OTHY.

>> R. DOROTHY: YES, IF WE CAN GET THE PROMOTE PEOPLE TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT IS, WE CAN FIT IT IN.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD AGENDA >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW

ALCZYK? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I WOULD AGREE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK WE HAVE A DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD. MR. ROBINSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO REPORT?

OKAY, MR. SMITH. >> D. SMITH: MR. HURLEY, REGARDING OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK FOR WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.

I WANTED A BRIEF OVERVIEW CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE FEDERAL PROGRAM OR IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ITERALLY SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS AS NONCAPITALLIZED WORDS.

>> WELL, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AT THE BIKE AND PED BOARD ABOUT THAT. IT'S BEEN A GOAL OF THEIRS.

AND I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, I THINK IT COULD BE EITHER. WE PLAN TO OVERVIEW SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL IN TERMS OF THE BIGGER COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM.

BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT MORE PRACTICAL WAYS.

THERE IS A GROUP OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY TALKING WITH THE P.T.A.'S ABOUT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FOR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIME.

THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THE AGENDA.

IN OUR MEMO WE'RE OUTLINING A FEW OPTIONS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: NOT A >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. DOR

OTHY. >> R. DOROTHY: NOTHING, THANK

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW ALCZYK.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: WANT TODAY POINT OUT THE CRAFT CRAWL IS THIS WEEK. ANOTHER OLD WORTHINGTON PARTNERSHIP EVENT THAT IS SOLD OUT.

RECENTLY I HEARD SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE ARE REACHING THE LARGER COMMUNITY ON THESE EVENTS AND BY FAR WE ARE.

USUALLY THE MAJORITY ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

KUDOS TO THE PARTNERSHIP BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE CRAFT CRAWL IS IN THE SECOND YEAR AND SEEMS TO HAVE QUITE THE FAVORITE OF PEOPLE. IF YOU DIDN'T GET TICKETS, I'M

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SORRY. YOU CAN STILL WALK AROUND.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WANTED TO THANK THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE WONDERFUL OPEN HOUSE THEY DID THIS PAST WEEKEND. IT WAS EXCELLENT.

NICE CROWD. A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. AND MY GRANDSON ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S OBSTACLE COURSE.

IT WAS A BLAST. IT WAS REALLY GREAT AND A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES.

THE HOTDOGS AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.

ALSO, THE CENTRAL OHIO MAYOR MANAGER'S ASSOCIATION, TWO THINGS CAME UP. THE EMINENT DOMAIN LEGISLATION WE SENT A LETTER IN OPPOSITION IS MOVING SLOW.

THEY FOUND IN THE ACTUAL OHIO REVISED CODE, A STATEMENT THAT SAID IF A LAND OWNER IS THREATENED WITH EMINENT DOMAIN AND THEY FEEL IT'S BEEN RULED AGAINST THEM AND THEY FEEL IT'S INCORRECT, THEY CAN APPEAL THAT TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT OUR TOWNSHIP GOVERNMENT OR THE JURISDICTION THEY THEY ARE IN AND THAT BODY WOULD SERVE AS THE REVIEW ON WHETHER OR NOT EMINENT DOMAIN SHOULD GO THROUGH. THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS.

THAT TOOK A LOT OF THE WIND OUT OF THE SAIL PUSHING THE LEGISLATION THROUGH. THE OTHER IS THE LAWSUIT REGARDING THE CENTRAL COLLECTION OF OUR INCOME TAX IS GOING TO BE HEARD IN FRONT OF THE OHIO SUPREME COURT.

THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS, THE SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO BE HEARING IT. AND THEY ARE TAKING IT ON BOTH WHAT USED TO BE THE FORMER HOUSE BILL 5, AS WELL AS THE MOST RECENT COLLECTION. SO TWO AREAS.

THAT INCLUDES THE THROW BACK RULE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THTHERE IS A LOT THAT IS GOING O RIDE.

YOU WILL GET MORE DETAILS AT A LATER TIME.

A LOT RIDING ON THIS PARTICULAR SUPREME COURT DECISION.

WE'RE PLEASED IT'S GOING IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE IF WE CAN WIN BACK HOME RULE.

[11. Executive Session]

MR. GREESON, YOU MENTIONED WE NEED EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR COMPOSITION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND --

>> M. GREESON: APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS

AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

MOVED BY MS. KOWALCZYK TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY. KAY, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> D. SMITH: YES. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: YES.

>> D. ROBINSON: YES. >> R. DOROTHY: YES.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY ERS MOVES WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON.

ROLL CALL, MR. ROBINSON. >> D. ROBINSON: YES.

>> D. SMITH: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE OTHERS TO COME OUT.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WE HAVE FOUR VOTES IF YOU VOTE YES.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I VOTE YES.

WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. SMI TH, MR. MEYERS MOVES TO ADJOURN, MR. SMITH SECONDED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGN

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