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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S FINALLY 7 7:30.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 10 TO ORDER.

MS. THRESS, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WILL EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PLEASE BE SEATED.

I NOTICED WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS IN THE ROOM.

I THINK IS THERE STUDENTS HERE FOR CLASSES? CLASS WORK? NO? ARE ALL THE STUDENTS HERE BECAUSE THEY LIKE SWIMMING? WELCOME, WELCOME. WE HAVE STUDENTS DO CLASS PROJECTS WE LIKE TO INTRODUCE AND FIND OUT WHAT SCHOOL.

ANY OF THEM? NO.

[4. Special Presentation(s)]

[4.A. Resolution No. 08-2020 Express Appreciation to Fire Chief John Bailot ]

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON.

INTRODUCE RESOLUTION 08-2020. EXPRESS APPRECIATION TO FIRE CHIEF JOHN BAILOT EXPRESSING THE APPRECIATION AND BEST WISHES OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO CHIEF JOHN BAILOT FOR HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE WORTHINGTON DIVISION OF FIRE & EMS AND FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

INTRODUCED BY MR. BUCHER. MOVED FOR ADOPTION BY MS. KOWALCZYK. SECONDED BY MR. SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY S AYING AYE.

OPPOSED? MR. GREESON, I KNOW I WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAE, CHIEF BAILOT. IT'S AN HONOR TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS ABOUT CHIEF BAILOT TO RECOGNIZE HIS SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF WORTHINGTON. BEFORE HE LEAVES US FOR GREENER PASTURES. SEVERAL YEARS AGO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF HIRING HIM AS THE CHIEF.

THE SPECIFIC GOAL WAS TO CREATE A SUCCESSION PLAN FOR THE FIRE CHIEF. WHEN WE PROUDLY PROMOTED HIM TO CHIEF AFTER THE RETIREMENT OF SCOTT HIGHLY.

CHIEF BAILOT CAMETA US WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE.

HAVING SERVED AS CHIEF IN TWO MISSOURI COMMUNITIES.

HE BROUGHT NOT ONLY EXPERIENCE BUT ENERGY, DRIVE, ASSION FOR HIS PEOPLE. THIS COMMUNITY AND IRE SERVICE IN GENERAL. I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.

SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW. BUT CHIEF BAILOT DID NOT HAVE AN EASY TRANSITION INTO OHIO FIRE SERVICE.

DESPITE BEING IN THE FIRE SERVICES FOR OVER TWO DECADES AND HAVING SERVED AS A FIRE MARSHAL AND CHIEF.

THE STATE OF OHIO WANTED HIM TO PASS INPHYSICAL RETIREMENTS TO HAVE THE FIRE CARD AND BE OUR STEWART CHIEF.

HE STUDIED UP AND ACED THE WRITTEN TEST.

DRAGGED THE HOSE TO PASS A TEST. NOT TO DISSIMILAR TO THE ONE HE DOING AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAREER.

THAT'S WHAT HE DID TO WORK FOR US.

I WASN'T TOO PLEASED THAT MY NEW NEVER HEARD A COMPLAINT FROMT I- JOHN . IN FACT, I THINK HE TOOK PRIDE IN THE CHALLENGE AND HIS MEN AND WOMEN KNEW HE COULD DO IT WITH THE BEST OF THEM. AFTER CLEARING THAT HURDLE, HE CLEARED QUITE A FEW MORE. AND WE'RE A BETTER ORGANIZATION FOR IT. HIGH IS INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH TO CONTRACT PARTNERS, SHERRY AND PERRY TOWNSHIP. AND THE VILLAGE OF RIVERLY.

HE WORKED TO IMPROVE OUR FIRE STATION FACILITIES.

FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC WHO VISITS THERE. HE HAS BEEN A PART OF OUR FFORT TO EVALUATE AND COMMUNICATE THE BENEFIT OF MOVING TO THE NORTHWEST CENTER FOR 911 DISPATCH SERVICES.

AND HE HAS HELPED IMPLEMENT THAT TRANSITION.

HE ALONG WITH HIS TEAM MADE SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS TO REORGANIZE AND IMPROVE OUR TRAINING STRATEGY.

HE'S PLAYED AN ACTIVE ROLE IN REVIEWING DEVELOPMENTS, SHARING EXPERTISE AS A FIRE MARSHAL. HE'S ENCOURAGED AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE MOST IMPORTANT TO HIM.

HE'S ENCOURAGED THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF FIREFIGHTERS, A NUMBER OF WHICH ARE SEEKING COLLEGE DEGREES.

THESE ARE A FEW OF THINGS HE'S CONTRIBUTED.

MOSTLY HE'S BEEN A PROACTIVE LEADER AND A PARTNER TO ALL OF US IN OUR EFF EFFORTS TO PROTECD ADVANCE THE COMMUNITY. JOHN IS

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LEAVING WORTHINGTON TO PURSUE A NEW OPPORTUNITY AND BE CLOSER TO HIS FAMILY. WE WANT HIM TO KNOW WE APPRECIATE HIM. AND HIS WORK AND WE WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK. WE ALSO WANT HIS WIFE, VE, TO KNOW WE'RE THANKFUL OF HER SUPPORT AS WELL.

SHE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONAL HERSELF, A RETIRED PARAMEDIC. YOU HEARD ME SAY THESE JOBS ARE NOT SOLO ENGAGEMENTS. THEY REQUIRE THE SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING OF FAMILIES AND SPOUSES.

AND WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT SHE HAS GIVEN THAT TO JOHN AND TO US WHILE THEY ARE HERE IN WORTHINGTON.

WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN HERE IN WORTHINGTON.

SO I WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE CITY STAFF FOR CHIEF BAILOT AND VE AND ALL THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO WORTHINGTON.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SAID. VANCE HAD THE CHANCE.

WHEREAS, CHIEF JOHN BAILOT SERVED AS THE CHIEF OF THE WORTHINGTON DECISION OF FIRE AND EMS SINCE JANUARY 2018.

AND PREVIOUS LEGISLATION SERVED AS THE SSISTANT TO THE DIVISION. HIS LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT THE WORTHINGTON DIVISION OF FIRE AND EMS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TS EXCELLENCE WITH HIGH-QUALIFIED AND COMMITTED FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL WHO REPRESENT THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON WITH DIGNITY AND EXEMPLARY SERVICES.

THE CHIEF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO ASSURE HIS TEAM IS TRAINED IN LIFE SAVING TECHNIQUES SO THEY ARE READY FOR ANY EMERGENCY SITUATION, PROTECTING THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF WORTHINGTON CITIZENS. WHEREAS CHIEF BAILOT STUARRIVED TO ENHANCE RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS AND JURISDICTIONS SERVED BY THE DIVISION, INCLUDING PERRY AND SHARON TOWNSHIP ASK THE VILLAGE OF RIVERLY.

WHEREAS CHIEF BAILOT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND SOUGHT CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO ASSURE THEIR SAFETY AND WELL-BEING. WHEREAS, CHIEF BAILOT WILL BE LEAVING A LASTING IMPACT ON THE DIVISION OF FIRE AND EMS IN THE WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON, FRANKLIN COUNTY, SECTION ONE, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY, SINCERE APPRECIATE FOR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS AND DEDICATED AND EXTENDS BEST WISHES IN THE FUTURE. SECTION 2, THE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO FORWARD A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE RESOLUTION TO CHIEF BAILOT AND RECORD THE RESOLUTION IN THE APPROPRIATE RECORD BOOK, DOMIADOPTEDFEBRUARY 10, 2020. CONGRATULATIONS.

GO TOO FAR. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU NEVER FORGET YOUR TIME IN WORTHINGTON.

AND AS OUR TRADITION, WE ARE PRESENTING YOU WITH YOUR NAME PLATE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU FROM HE TIME YOU WERE SERVING AS OUR CHIEF. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN HAVE.

YOU WILL HAVE IT WITH YOU AND YOU CAN REMEMBER HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATED YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU, AGAIN, SO VERY MUCH.

PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MR. GREESON, M MS. STEWART AND MY FELLOW DIRECTORS.

I STOOD HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS SWORN IN AS THE FIRE CHIEF. AND I SAID I WAS EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH A DYNAMIC ELECTED OFFICIAL WORK, STRONG LEADERSHIP AND A VERY PROFESSIONAL, SOLID DIRECTOR TEAM.

YOU HAVE A SOLID LEADERSHIP TEAM.

AND I'M HONORED TO WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH EVE EVERY ONE OF OU.

MAYBE, NO, NOT EVEN MAYBE, MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S THE MEN AND

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WOMAN OF THE DIVISION OF FIRE AND EMS THAT HELPED THIS DIVISION GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY IN A VERY SHORT TIME.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DEDICATION OF THESE FOLKS AND THE REST OF THEM THAT CAN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

THAT THAT DEPARTMENT, THAT DIVISION IS TOPNOTCH.

AND IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO LEAD THIS DIVISION, THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE. I CHERISH MY TIME HERE.

YOU KNOW IT'S BECAUSE OF FAMILY I'M LIVIN I'M LEAVING, OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT BE.

I CAN'T THANK THE MEN AND WOMEN. THE CHIEF TAKING OVER AS THE ACTING CHIEF AFTER I LEAVE, DIVISION IS IN GOOD HANDS.

I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DIVISION. AND THE SERVICES, THE DEDICATION, THE COMMITMENT AND COMPASSION THAT THEY HAVE DOING THEIR JOB EVERY DAY. MR. GREESON, MS. STEWART, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND HELPING ME TO GROW AND ALL MY OTHER DIRECTORS, THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND WORKING SIDE BY SIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONTO THE NEXT PART. IF NY OF THE FIREFIGHTERS WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK, YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING. IT'S UP TO YOU HOW LONG YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ORDINANC.

ORDINANCE 6 6-2020. SORRY, THE REPORT FROM THE

[4.B. Community Visioning Update]

VISIONING COMMITTEE. COME ON UP.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM COUNCIL. PARDON ME.

CAN'T TALK. PRESIDENT MIC HAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I BEHALF OF THE VISIONING COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS JOE SHERMAN.

6603 MCBERNIE PLACE, THE CHAIR OF UR VISI VISIONING COMMITTEE.

MY LAST UPDATE WAS THE 21ST OF JANUARY.

AND WE HAD ONE MEETING SINCE THEN.

I THINK THAT WE'RE AT A KEY JUNCTURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND ONE OF THE KEY ACTIVITIES WE DID HAVE IS CHRIS BORING, BOULEVARD STRATEGIES CAME IN AND WE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR CHRIS. AND THEN HE PRESENTED MACROTRENDS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR WORTHINGTON.

BUT ONE OF THE KEY QUESTIONS WE ASKED I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS HOW DOES DENSITY IMPACT THE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACTS IF WORTHINGTON WHOSES NOT TO PERMIT MORE DENSITY. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS IS THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ASKED. AND AS YOU SEE AS WE START TO GO FORWARD. OR NEXT STEP IS TO GET OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'LL BEGIN OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS. AND A PART OF THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT THE PAST DOCUMENT SUMMARIES.

TO BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'VE BEEN.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ON WHERE WE GO.

THE 360 INITIATIVE I THINK IS A GOOD ONE TO LOOK AT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIMILARITIES, IT WAS A STEERING COMMITTEE OF RESIDENTS SEEN AS AN COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.

IT CAME AT A TOUGH TIME IN 2007, '08 DURING THE RECESSION.

THERE ARE CONCERNS IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.

ONE OF THOSE AND STILL REMAINED IS DENSITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TOOK AWAY AS A GROUP, WE FELT LIKE PEOPLE OFFER POINT OUT WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE AFTER SOMETHING IS COMPLETED. AS OPPOSED TO DURING THE PROCESS. AS WE GO FORWARD WE LOOKED AT THE COMP PLAN. AND WE USE THAT TO INFORM OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE OR WERE.

THIS IS IN 2005. THE THING WE DID COME TO ANTIONEDDING IS THE COMP PLAN S TACTICAL.

IT LOOKS AT ZONING, LAND USE AND HOUSING.

AND VISIONING I THINK IS ABOVE ALL THAT.

AND IT'S NOT THE VC'S TASK, I DON'T BELIEVE TO UPDATE THIS.

WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK THE PAST DOCUMENT SAIDSE GOING TO SET A BASELINE FOR US.

THE QUESTIONS I WILL SEE AND THE FOCUS GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO LEAD TO VISIONING THAT IS CRAFTING ANSWERS THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON FACTS THAT ARE GATHERED.

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WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE CHANGE, VIA INVOLVEMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCREASE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROJECT TO SUCCEED. THIS IS TRULY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. I WANT COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WE'RE READY. AND I THINK WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME TO REALLY GET OURSELVES LINED UP AND READY TO GO.

PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FARMERS MARKET AND THE STRATEGY THERE. NINA HAS BEEN GREAT TO TALK TO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET OURSELVES ORGANIZED THERE.

I WON'T GET INTO ALL THE HOW'S AND WHYS.

I THINK YOU WILL SEE USEN OA SATURDAY.

WOW. THEY ARE HERE AND DOING A OOD JOB. THE POST CARDS HAVE BEEN AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY. THE USUAL PLACES, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, GRISWOLD, THESE ARE GREAT.

THEY WILL BE STOOD UP IN A NICE BROCHURE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE CIRCLING AROUND AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS FULL. WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A DIFFERENT PLACE TO GO. SO WE'VE TALKED TO TRENT BOWERS.

THEY HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE SCHOOLS.

THERE IS PASTOR SOCIETY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE PASTORS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH THE CHURCH COMMUNITY.

BANKS. AND THEN THE PERSON THAT CONTINUES TO AMAZE ME IS ANNE BROWN.

SHE HAS MORE IRONS IN THE FIRE THAN I HAVE SEEN.

SHE HAS US LINED UP WITH ALL KINDS OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

SHE'LL HOLD US TO MAKE SURE WE STAY OUT OF TROUBLE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. I REALLY THINK THE KEY HERE IS WE HAVE TO, AS WE GO FORWARD, RETAIN THE INTEREST, NOT ONLY OF THE COMMUNITY BUT OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

THE BEST PRACTICES ARE GOING TO FOCUS THESE THREE WORKING COMMITTEES. WE'RE DOING WEEKLY PHONE CALLS AMONGST OURSELVES NOW. AND SO THE COMMUNICATIONS, SPEAKERS BUREAU, KEY STAKER INTERVIEW FOLKS E'LL BE STAYING BUSY. THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IS UNDERWAY. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN THIS ON. THE VC HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED BYPOSIA MEYER, WHO IS THE CONSULTANT.

POSIA MORE. WE'RE TO GIVE TWO PEOPLE AS A VC TO BE INTERVIEWED. THAT'S GOING TO BE ST STARTING.

WE HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS NEXT.

AND EACH OF US THAT WERE APP APPOINTED WE'LL BE INTERVIEWING FOLKS. FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCILMEMBER ROBINSON ASKED ME TO JOIN, I'LL BE INTERVIEWING COUNCILMEMBER ROBINSON. I THINK THE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT NOW IS THE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL.

WE HAVE GONE BACK AND DEVISED A COMPLETE SETTED OF QUESTIONS.

WE WANT THE INTERVIEWS DONE BY THE 24TH.

A QUICK SCHEDULE. BUT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT'S COMING. SO I ALSO HAD QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER DOROTHY, ASKED MY ABOUT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS THAT WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE WORTHINGTON MARKET PROFILE. WE CAUGHT THAT AS WELL.

IT'S NICE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE ASKED CHRIS BORING TO COME BACK.

AND COUNCILMEMBER, WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT, I'LL BRING IT AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THE OTHER WAS A CONVERSATION COUNCILMEMBER ROBINSON AND I HAD AROUND EDUCATION. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS? WE HAD A BRAINSTORMING SESSION.

I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE HOW, THE WHAT AND WHERE AROUND EDUCATION.

IT'S GOT TO BE CONSIST. AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IS WE HAVE 30 PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'LL BE MAKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS A PART OF SPEAKERS BUREAU.

THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF EACH OF THOSE SESSIONS WILL BE DEVOTED TO EDUCATION. THAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS ABOUT, HOW IT WAS FOUNDED, WHY WE'RE HERE AND DOING THIS. IT'S DYNAMIC, NOT THE SAME, OKAY, HERE'S THIS, THIS AND THAT.

IT'S THE SAME THING. SO I'M ENCOURAGED BY THIS I THINK THIS FINAL VISION WILL START TO SHAPE ITSELF BASED ON THE EDUCATION PIECE OF THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMA REMARKS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I

MAY ANSWER? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T NORMALLY HEAR ABOUT THE VISIONING PROCESS.

WE HAVE A VISIONING COMMITTEE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE WORTHINGTON SHOULD BE WHEN IT GROWS UP.

THERE IS ONLINE OPPORTUNITY AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERVIEWS.

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WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE, LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO TO GET

INVOLVED? >> ABSOLUTELY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS GETTING IN FRONT OF YOU FOLKS. 10 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU WILL BE DRIVING THE BUS IN WORTHINGTON.

I TALKED TO DR. BOWERS OW WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'LL PUT TOGETHER QUESTIONS. WE'LL NOT TELL YOU, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU. WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHAT DO YOU LIKE? WHY DO YOU SWIM? WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU? I THINK THAT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEARN. ONCE WE GATHERED THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH OUR VISIONING RECOMMENDATIONS. AND PART OF THAT WILL BE WHAT YOU GIVE TO US. IF WE REACH OUT TO YOU, NOT IF, WHEN WE REACH OUT TO YOU, I WOULD ASK TO GIVE YOUR HONEST ANSWERS. AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING AND PRESENTING WHAT YOU ALL SEE AS OUR FUTURE.

BECAUSE IT'S REALLY -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: A WAY THEY CAN GET INVOLVED WITH AN ONLINE OPPORTUNITY?

>> THERE WILL BE. I HATE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED BUT THAT WILL BE OUT THERE.

THERE IS A WEBSITE. VISIT WORTHINGTON DOT ORG THAT IS ALREADY THERE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, TAKE A LOOK. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS. AND THEN YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

IT'S DYNAMIC WITH WHAT ITS DOING TOO.

MY PLEASURE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTI?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOUR MONTHLY UPDATES. WE KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO ASK A LOT. YOU STEPPED UP AND IT'S EXCITED.

I HAVE A BASIC QUESTION. JUST TO REMIND US WHEN THE -- YOU ARE GOING TO BRING SOMETHING CONCRETE BACK TO US, EITHER THE FINAL REPORT, INTERIM REPORT, DATA, KIND OF SEEING THE PROGRESS IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING BACK.

BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN THE DEADLINES ARE.

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DEADLINES. I THINK THE KEY HERE, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHAT WE'LL SEE HERE IS NOW THAT THE INTERVIEWS HAVE STARTED, WE'LL HAVE DATA THAT WE'LL START TO PUT TOGETHER. WE WANT THESE INTERVIEWS CONCLUDED BY THE FIRST PART OF MARCH.

TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING WE'LL HAVE ITIN ARE YOU AWARE OF DATES. I THINK AS WE GET THROUGH PHASE THREE, WHICH IS WHEN THE SURVEY IS DONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A CONCRETE ENDING DATE. THIS IS WHAT WE'LL SEE.

BE PATIENT. I THINK WE'LL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BUT WHAT I DON'T LIKE TO DO IS GIVE A DATE AND GO BEYOND IT. MY PLEASURE.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CONVEY TO THE THER COMMITTEE MEMBERS ALL OF US GENUINELY ARE IMPRESSED AND GRATEFUL YOU ARE WORKING EXTREMELY HARD.

EARLIER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED CHRIS BORING, AND

HE'S WITH WHOM? >> BOULEVARD STRATEGIES.

>> D. ROBINSON: CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND? THEY WERE BROUGHT IN TO THE PROCESS AND WHAT THEIR ROLE IS?

>> CHRIS HAS GIVEN US A MACROLOOK.

OUR QUESTION WAS WHERE DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE IN 10 TO 20 YEARS AND GIVE US INFORMATION. HE'S GOING TO MORPC DOCUMENTS.

HE'S BASICALLY A STRATEGYGIST THAT WENT BACK AND GAVE US 15-PAGE REPORT ON DIFFERENT TRENDS AND STRATEGIES AS IT RELATES TO THAT. I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT IN COUNCIL'S HANDS. AND WE'VE THE FOLLOW-UP DOCUMENTS. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE SURE WE GET

THAT TO ALL OF YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF YOU WANT TO SEND THEM TO MS. THRESS AND SHE CAN GET THEM OUT TO US.

>> AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE TO USE THIS, I'M FINE.

>> HOW WERE THEY FIRED? POGGEMEYER?

>> POGGEMEYER IS WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US.

HE REPORTS AS YOU SAY TO POGGEMEYER.

>> OUT F CENTRAL OHIO? >> CHRIS IS HERE IN COLUMBIA.

>> THEY ARE A SUBCONSULTANT TO POGGEMEYER.

PART OF THE CONSULTING TEAM POGGEMEYER PUT TOGETHER.

AND CHRIS IS MARKET AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH AND DATA TO HELP SUPPORT THE VISIONING COMMITTEE.

>> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING THE REPORT.

>> P. BUCHER: IMPRESSED WITH YOUR WORK AND PRESENTATIONS AND GROUP'S WORK. DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH TIMELINE ON THE OUTREACH QUESTIONNAIRE WILL HAPPEN? YOU MENTIONED THE FARMERS MARKET AND FAITH COMMUNITY AND BANKS.

IS THAT AFTER THIS WAVE OF INTERVIEWS IN THE SPRINGTIME?

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GENERAL TIMELINE. >> I THINK THAT WHERE THIS WILL GO BY THE END OF THE MONTH WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR INTERVIEW QUESTIONS COMPLETED. WE'LL HAVE COUNCIL INTERVIEWED.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A GOOD BASELINE TO GO FORWARD. IF YOU LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE, YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF INTERACTIVE TILES IF YOU WILL.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL START TO SEE THE ONGOING QUESTIONS BEING ASKED. I THINK THE SPEAKERS BUREAU OF WHICH I'M A PART OF WE'LL OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL HAVE THE IMELINE FOR COUNCIL TO SAY THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PLACES WE WILL B BE GOING.

I THINK YOU WILL START TO SEE NOT SO MUCH OF WELL I'M GOING TO GET TO THIS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEFINITE DATES, TOMORROW AT OUR MEETING. AND INITIATIVE PLAN OUT TO COUNCIL. I WON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT.

THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE IT. IS THAT PREFERABLE?

>> P. BUCHER: I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I WANTED A BETTER SENSE SO THANK YOU.

>> SURE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> D. ROBINSON: WERE THE BOULEVARD STRATEGIES CUTTING IN AND OUT] OVERALL FEE APPROVED BY COUNCIL?

>> YES, THEY WORK IS BEING PAID UNDER THE CONTRACT WITH POGGEMEYER. SO THAT WAS ALL CAPTURED TOGETHER UNDER POGGEMEYER'S CONTRACT.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE SUBCONSULTANT

FOR POGGEMEYER. >> D. ROBINSON: MY REACTION IS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME SELECTING THE PRIMARY CONSULTING FIRM.

I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONSULTANTS THAT COUNCIL B BE APPRIZED BEFOREHAND.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THE ORIGINAL RESPONSE TO THE RFP.

OKAY. OBVIOUSLY A CHORUS OF VOICES TELL US MY I'M WRONG. I'LL LOOK AT THE STUDY.

THANKS A LOT, JOE. >> I THINK IT WAS THE INCLUDED.

WANT TO THANK YOU, TOO. ON BEHALF OF ALL THE COUNCIL.

AND THE WHOLE COMMISSION. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

YOU WERE MENTIONING COUNCIL INTERVIEWS BEING DONE BY THE 24TH. IS THE PERSON WE APPOINTED

INTERVIEWING US? >> YES.

BETH WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M

LEAVING TOWN. >> I'LL GO WITH YOU.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM. I THINK THE GOAL IS TO HAVE

ANARCHS I THINK A BETTER -- >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'LL

GET AHOLD OF HER. >> THERE WILL BE AN APPOINTMENT SET. IT'S 10 QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN HOUR, PERHAPS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHI? THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN EVERY MONTH AND THE DEDICATION AND TIME AND ENERGY THAT YOU AND THE WHOLE COMMITTEE ARE PUTTING

INTO THIS. >> WE'RE THOROUGHLY ENJOYING OURSELVES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

[5. Public Hearings on Legislation]

[5.A. Ordinance No. 06-2020 Appropriation - Northbrook Relief Sewer Improvements - Phase II Project]

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MOVING ON. ORDINANCE NO. 06-2020.

APPROPRIATION - NORTHBROOK RELIEF SEWER IMPROVEMENTS - PHASE II PROJECT AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 45-2019 (AS AMENDED). TO ADJUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET BY PROVIDING FOR AN APPROPRIATION FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE TO PAY FOR THE TREE CLEARING FOR NORTHBROOK RELIEF SEWER IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES AND DETERMINING TO PROCEED WITH SAID PROJECT.

(PROJECT NO. 656-17). MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEM EMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT'S NOT OUR CUSTOM TO BRING ORDINANCES TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETINGS. BUT WE HAVE ONE TIME SENSITIVE DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT.

RELATING TO THE NORTHBROOK PHASE TWO PROJECT.

SO THIS IS SOUTH WORTHINGTON, JUST EAST OF HIGH STREET AND THE NORTHBROOK SUBDIVISION. MR. WHITED WILL COVER THAT IN A SECOND. WE NEED AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE 49,000-DOLLAR FOR TREE CLEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AND NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE THE INDIANA BAT.

SO THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT IMPACT INDIANA BATS AND IT'S

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. WHI TED?

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MATT HIT IT DEAD ON.

ONE POINT TO MAKE THIS NORMALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN PARTS OF THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION OR THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION PACKAGE.

BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF THE INDIANA BAT THEY NEED TO BE CLEARED BEFORE MARCH 31ST. IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PROJECTS HAPPEN THIS YEAR WE NEED THE TREE CLEARING EARLY ON.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?

>> R. DOROTHY: THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY MARCH 30TH.

ANY IDEA WHEN IT WILL START? >> IT WILL START IN 21 AND A

QUARTER DAYS FROM TODAY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYTHI?

IF NOT, YES, MS. KOWALCZYK. >> B. KOWALCZYK: IN TERMS OF THE REST OF THE PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED

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TIMELINE? >> I WOULD EXPECT THE PROJECT WE HAVE HAD AS IT SEEMS TO BE WITH MANY, WE HAD DELAYS WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE. WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAR UP ONE LAST ITEM WITH THIS. AND WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DONE AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE TREE CLEARING IS DONE.

WE HOPE TO LET THE REST OF THE CONTRACT IN APRIL/MAY.

IN THAT TIMEFRAME. AND CONSTRUCTION LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER. YEP.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: PLEASE ON THIS RDINANCE?

>> P. BUCHER: YES. >> D. ROBINSON: YES.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: YES,. >> R. DOROTHY: YES.

>> D. SMITH: YES. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES.

ORDINANCE 6-2020 IS PASSED. THE DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[6. Reports of City Officials]

[6.A.I. Support for Worthington Pools/Swiminc]

SUPPORT FOR THE WORTHINGTON POOL SWIM NC. AND REQUEST FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE WORTHINGTON POOLS. MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICH AEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FIRST MY APOLOGIES TO SOME IN THE AUDIENCE.

THEY SPENT AN AFTERNOON LISTEN TO ME ANNOUNCE A SWIM MEET AND HERE THEY ARE YET AGAIN LISTENING TO MY VOICE.

NO, JUST THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WHAT I WOULD CALL AQUATIC DIGNITARIES IN THE AUDIENCE. I MAY MISS SOME.

A FEW INTRODUCTIONS MAYBE IN ORDER.

WE HAVE THE BOARD PRESIDENT, MIKE KELLER WHO IS HERE.

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, KIRK CARMEN.

I THINK I SAW HER, GIRLS WATER POLO COACH MIRANDA.

BOTH HIGH SCHOOL SWITCH COACH. TAMMIA AMENT.

THE HIGH SCHOOL INCOMING BOOSTER CLUB PRESIDENT PAUL FRAYLIC IS HERE. IF I MISSED SOMEBODY, I APOLOGIZE. BUT I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THIS DISCUSSION. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE IDEA OF CREATING A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT.

IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING BEFORE THE LARGER WORTHINGTON AREA VOTERS A LEVY TO FUND REPLACEMENT OF THE WORTHINGTON POOL FACILITIES.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT YOU DESIGNATED COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE POOL RELATED ISSUES.

AND WE APPRECIATE HER CONVERSATIONS WITH US ON THIS SUBJECT. ADDITIONALLY, YOU HEARD FROM SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT NICKY HUDSON AS A RECENT COUNCIL MEETING. THE BOARD IS OPEN TO CONSIDERING A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT. BUT THEY WOULD LIKE A PROPOSAL FROM THE CITY OR FOR THE CITY TO TAKE SOME LEADERSHIP ROLE IN CRAFTING HOW A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT MIGHT WORK.

THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY SINCE SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT HUDSON COMMUNICATED WITH YOU THAT WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK YOU AS A COUNCIL AND FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THIS SUBJECT. WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. RATHER, I'M GOING TO ALK ABOUT THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT CONCEPT AND SEEK YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION. WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER YOU LIKE THE CONCEPT OF A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT.

WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT STAFF TO WORK A LOT OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS FURTHER DEVELOP THIS CONCEPT.

AND POTENTIAL LEGISLATION. WE'RE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE US TO SHAPE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WOULD BECOME A ROPOSAL TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS MS. HUDSON SUGGESTED.

ADDITIONALLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT LIKE ANSWERED BEFORE YOU MAKE A FINAL DECISION. WHAT INFORMATION, WHAT ANALYSIS, WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, I THINK WE WOULD BRING BACK THAT INFORMATION IN EARLY MARCH.

OBVIOUSLY, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

AND WE WOULD LIKELY BRING BACK A CONCEPT PROPOSAL AND RECOMMENDED LEGISLATION FOR REVIEW. WHICH THEN WOULD SHARE THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND DOING BOTH OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS, WE WOULD SEE IF THERE IS AN APPETITE FOR BOTH BOARDS TO ADOPT MIRROR RESOLUTIONS, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES. AND WITH THE GOAL THAT IF BOTH BOARDS FELT GOOD ABOUT THE CONCEPTS BEING DISCUSSED, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY ADOPT LEGISLATION AS EARLY AS THE END

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OF MARCH. IF YOU ADOPT THE MIRROR RESOLUTIONS, THEN YOU ESSENTIALLY CREATE HE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT. AND THERE ARE PROCEDURES THAT WE WOULD PUT IN THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD.

>> R. DOROTHY: DOES THAT NEED TO BE PUT TO A VOTE OF THE

COMMUNITY? >> M. GREESON: NOT CREATING THE DISTRICT OR DISTRICT BOARD. BUT THEN THAT BOARD WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PLACE ON THE BALLOT, A LEVY THAT THE VOTERS WOULD APPROVE OR LEVEES IF IT WERE BOTH CAPITAL AND OPERATING, TO SUPPORT AQUATIC FACILITIES OR IN THE FUTURE, OTHER

RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. >> R. DOROTHY: MULTISTEP

PROCESS, THE FIRST STEP? >> M. GREESON: CREATING THE ENTITY AND APPOINTING THE BOARD. LET ME TOUCH A LITTLE BIT, A HIGH-LEVEL ON THE CONCEPT. AND WHAT I SEE AS POTENTIAL BENEFITS. AND THEN THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE TO OVERCOME. AND KNOW THE STAFF IS EVALUATING SEVERAL OF THESE. BEEN LOOKING AT SYLVAINIA, WHICH IS INTERESTING, THEY HAVE A BOARD, A DISTRICT THAT THEN CONTRACTS WITH A NOT FOR PROFIT. GRANDVILLE, SOME OF OUR STAFF IS VISITING TOMORROW. NEW ALBANY AND OTHERS MR. BARNHARDT IS PULLING INFORMATION FROM.

WE HAVE LEGISLATION EXAMPLES AND THINGS IKE BYLAWS OBTAINED.

EACH COMMUNITY SETUP THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT, PROVIDED BY OHIO LAW, SIMILARLY, BUT THEY DO DIFFERENT THINGS TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES UNIQUE NEEDS. AND THEIR COMMUNITIES SPECIAL OPPORTUNITIES OR CHALLENGES. I THINK WHEN LOOKING AT OURS, THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE OUR UNIQUE COMMUNITY CHALLENGE OR OPPORTUNITY? AND THE REALITY IS THE WORTHINGTON AREA HAS RECREATIONAL NEEDS, IN PARTICULAR AT THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY, REPLACING THE OUTDOOR POOL COMPLEX AND INDOOR NATATORIUM.

IT COULD BE OTHER RECREATIONAL NEEDS LONG TERM THAT TRANSCEND, IF YOU WILL, MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.

WHETHER IT BE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS, CITY OF WORTHINGTON OR TOWNSHIP OR VILLAGE. AND THEY CAN'T BE EASILY OR EQUITABLY ADDR ADDRESSED BY ONE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YOU MAY NOT REALIZE, THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON IS ONE QUARTER JURISDICTION AND ONE QUARTER POPULATION OF THE WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THE WORTHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THREE QUARTERS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT IN THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS SAYING, WHY ISN'T THE CITY TAKING OVER THIS WHOLE FACILITY? YOU WOULD BE ASKING AN ENTITY THAT ONLY SERVES ONE QUARTER OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TAKEOVER THE OPERATION FOR SOMETHING THAT'S LARGER.

PART OF REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT, THE SCHOOL AND CITY CAN WORK TOGETHER IN SWIM INC., TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS. JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE, THE BASIS OF WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING.

GO AHEAD. >> M. GREESON: ESSENTIALLY, PRESIDENT MICHAEL OUTLINED IT WELL.

OHIO LAW PROVIDES FOR THE CREATION OF THESE FOR THESE SITUATIONS WHERE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITHIN AN AREA SHARE AN INTEREST. AND SHARE A GOAL.

OR A SERIES OF GOALS TO MEET THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. AND SO THESE THINGS GET CREATED, THESE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICTS GET CREATED AND END UP ADDRESSING WHATEVER THAT LARGER AREA THAT A GROUP OF ENTITIES THAT HAVE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND SHARED INTEREST, DESIRE TO TACKLE. IN THIS INSTANCE, IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE WORTHINGTON AREA'S LEADING GOVERNMENTS, TWO, THE SCHOOL AND ITY OF WORTHINGTON, TO CREATE A JOINT PARTNERSHIP, CALLED A JOINT REC DISTRICT.

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS THAT WE CAN SEE FROM OUR RESEARCH? IN THIS INSTANCE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS YOU COULD HAVE A BOARD MADE UP OF PEOPLE THAT FROM THE DISTRICT.

THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT AND IT CAN PLACE BEFORE THE VOTERS, AS I SAID EARLIER. AND WHY I SAY THE VOTERS, I MEAN

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THE VOTERS OF THE LARGER WORTHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WHICH I'M GOING TO REFER TO AS THE LARGER WORTHINGTON AREA.

THEY CAN PUT BEFORE A LEVY OR LEVIES TO FUND THE POOLS.

WHAT COULD THAT DO? WELL, IT COULD ENSURE THE POTENTIAL BENEFICIARIES PAY FOR IT.

IT MAKES THE COST FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER LOWER BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD BETWEEN A LARGER NUMBER OF POTENTIAL TAXPAYERS. AND ENSURES THE TAXPAYERS IN ANY ONE PARTICULAR JURISDICTION AREN'T BURDENED WITH THE WHOLE COST OF THE FACILITY THAT BENEFITS MORE THAN THE PEOPLE TTHAT LIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR JURISDICTION.

MS. MICHAEL OUTLINED THAT WE'RE ONE QUARTER OF THE DISTRICT.

AND YET, MANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS OR THE BENEFICIARIES OF WORTHINGTON POOLS RESIDE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. IT WOULD , I THINK OR HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE A SHARED COMMITMENT OF ALL PARTIES TO ADDRESS THE AQUATIC NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND WAY TO DO THAT IN A SHARED MANNER. AS OPPOSED TO THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ACTION. IT COULD REDUCE THE INEFFICIENCY AND UNCERTAINTY THAT'S ASSOCIATED ITH SPLITTING PROJECTS. IF, FOR INSTANCE, WE HELPED FUND AN OUTDOOR POOL AND WORKED WITH SWITCH INC. TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND THAT HAPPENED IN THE NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN THE NATATORIUM WAS PUT IN A FUTURE BOND ISSUE, A NUMBER OF YEARS AWAY, YOU WOULD HAVE TWO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND MORE DIFFICULTY PLANNING THOSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER.

I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH DESIGN, OPERATIONAL AND CONSTRUCTION EFFICIENCY IF PLANNED AND DONE TOGETHER.

OR PLANNED TOGETHER, I SHOULD SAY.

HOW YOU WOULD SEEK WHAT IS CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE DONE BY SMARTER PEOPLE THAN ME. SO THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE EXPLORING, AND LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

BECAUSE I WANT TO TEST THIS IDEA WITH YOU BEFORE WE DEVELOP IT FURTHER. THE CONCEPT IS NOT THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT WOULD BE SET UP TO BECOME ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL OPERATING ENTITY. THE NEED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS PRIMARILY A CAPITAL FINANCING NEED.

WE SEE A CAPABLE OPERATOR IN SWIM INC. IF YOU LOOK AT BROADER RECREATIONAL NEEDS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, WE SEE A NUMBER OF CAPABLE OPERATORS THAT INCLUDE THE YOUTH BOOSTERS, WORTHINGTON PARKS AND RECREATION, CITY OF COLUMBUS PARKS AND RECREATION, AND SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CREATE, TO MEET OUR COMMUNITY'S UNIQUE NEEDS.

ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY THAT PROVIDES PARTICULAR OPERATING SERVICES OR PROGRAMMATIC SERVICES.

RATHER, THE CONCEPT WE WANT TO EXPLORE IS SHOULD WE ESTABLISH AN ENTITY THAT CAN PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE VOTERS TO WELL-ESTABLISHED PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE SWIM INC. SO THE MODEL WOULD BE THE ONE APPROACH WOULD BE THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT COULD GRANT MONEY TO , FOR NSTANCE, SWIM INC., A WELL-ESTABLISHED NOT FOR PROFIT TO BUILD AND MANAGE A POOL.

SOMETHING THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 50 YEARS.

AND THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY AGREEMENTS WITH THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD PROVIDING OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY. SO WHERE HAS THIS BEEN DONE? WHERE IS THE PARALLEL EXAMPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY? WE DON'T HAVE A PERFECT EXAMPLE BUT THE SOMEWHAT PARALLEL MODEL LOCALLY IS THE MCCALLAL ARTS CENTER.

WE OWN THE BUILDING AND LAND. WE PAID A DOLLAR FOR.

MCCONNELL. FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND WE -- PRIVATE FUNDS WERE RAISED TO IMPROVE THAT FACILITY.

BUT WE ALSO GRANTED MONEY TO A NOT FOR PROFIT TO CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU EE THERE. AND OF COURSE, WE PROVIDED CONTINUED OPERATING GRANT. SO IT IS ESSENTIALLY A PUBLIC,

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NOT FOR PROFIT PARTNERSHIP. WE'RE LOOKING AT SYLVAINIA THAT APPEARS TO HAVE SOME SIMILAR METHODOLOGY BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT DISTRICT AND THE NOT FOR PROFIT ENTITY.

WE'LL STUDY THAT AND REPORT BACK TO YOU ON IT.

WE REALLY SEE THE POTENTIAL OF THIS BEING AN EXTENSION OF THE MODEL THAT ALREADY EXISTED TH THERE.

THAT'S SERVED WORTHINGTON WELL OVER MANY YEARS, WHERE THE SCHOOL IS A PUBLIC ENTITY LEASED LAND AND PROVIDED SOME RESOURCES TO A NOT FOR PROFIT ENTITY TO OPERATE A POOL COMPLEX.

IN THIS CASE, THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT WOULD BE CREATED TO KIND OF BUILD ON THAT LEGACY, A PARTNERSHIP BY CONTRIBUTING PRIMARILY CAPITAL FINANCING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN RAISED IS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER TH TH THERE IS A NECESSR AN OPERATING LEVY.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. BUT OUR RESEARCH IS GOING TO NAIL IT DOWN. SO IN ADDITION TO PLACING THE ISSUE ON HE BALLOT, ONE OF THE TASKS THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD WOULD BE TO DEVELOP ALL THESE AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD AFFECT THE MODEL I DESCRIBED.

THAT'S THE CONCEPT. AT LEAST THE ONE I'M BOUNCING OFF OF YOU. IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE'LL FINISH OUR EVALUATION, LOOKING AT OTHER EXAMPLES, DRAFT LEGISLATION, ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE.

WE'LL WORK TO SHARE THE CONCEPT WITH THE SCHOOLS AND SWIM INC.

TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

DISCUSS POTENTIAL BOARD MEMBERS WITH YOU.

AND BRING IT BACK FOR AFF AFFIRMATION AND DIRECTION FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE. YOU, LIKE THE FOLKS AT THE SECTIONALS ON SATURDAY, HAVE HEARD TOO MUCH FROM ME.

GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OR PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL USE OF THE PO POOLS AND THE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND SWIM TEAMS. WITH THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT IN PLACE, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT IMPACTED OR COORDINATED

OR BROUGHT TOGETHER? >> M. GREESON: MR. CAMERON AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.

I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED. AND ONE OF THE TASKS THE JOINT RECREATION BOARD. IF THIS IS A CAPITAL, IT'S HE BUSINESS MODEL, IF YOU WILL. THE BUSINESS MODEL NEEDS TO BE BUILT. AND THERE NEEDS TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE ENTITIES, WATER POLO, SWIM TEAMS ARE A PART OF THAT. IF THERE ARE NEW FACILITIES, WHAT IS THEIR OBLIGATION? I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO THAT. BUT I WOULD EXPECT ONE OF THE TASKS WOULD BE TO DEVELOP A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WOULD OCCUR. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD COME IN PRESUMING THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY SIMILARLY TO WHAT THEY DO NOW. OR ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAUSE IT'S TAX-SUPPORTED, THAT IT'S FREE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD THINK ABOUT -- THINK IT'S STILL LIKELY GOING TO BE LIKE OUR TAX-SUPPORTED COMMUNITY CENTER, A MEMBERSHIP-BASED SUMMER POOL.

YOU KNOW, A PLACE WHERE ENTITIES THAT USE IT HAVE TO PAY AN APPROPRIATE SHARE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HAVING THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT FINANCED WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.

AND THEREFORE, MAKING A NEW RECREATION AMENITY AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THESE ROUPS AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT

MIGHT WANT TO USE IT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> B. KOWALCZYK: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK OUR INPUT ON WAS THE IDEA OF GRANTING MONEY IN ORDER TO ENGAGE SWIM INC. AND OTHER ENTITIES IN THIS PROCESS IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE TERMINOLOGY OF SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GRANT MONEY THROUGH THIS AS OPPOSED TO A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP. I KNOW IN STATE GOVERNMENT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONTRACT AND GRANT.

ONE IS SERVICES AND ONE IS TO FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO CARRY OUT THEIR MISSION THAT WE AGREE WITH.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS THE INTENT IN YOUR DISCUSSION? IS THAT THE DISTINCTION WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO AT THIS POINT? IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU USED THE TERM, GRANT?

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>> M. GREESON: JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU WOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT, IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A SERIES OF AGREEMENTS IN ALL LIKELIHOOD.

MR. LINDSEY CAN JUMP IN HERE IF HE WANTS TO CORRECT ME.

LET ME GIVE THERE MAC AS AN EXAMPLE.

THE TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'VE USED FOR THAT, THEY HAVE AN OPERATING GRANT AGREEMENT. AND WE APPROPRIATE DOLLARS EVERY YEAR THAT SUPPORTS THAT OPERATING GR GRANT AGREEMENT AND OBLIGATIONS RELATED TO THAT GRANT ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE AGREEMENT. BEFORE THEY HAD AN OPERATING AGREEMENT, THEY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT RELATED TO THE CAPITAL. I THINK YOU COULD, I JUST LOOK AT IT AS CONTRACTS. WE WOULD, IF WE'RE GIVING PUBLIC FUNDS TO A NOT FOR PROFIT, WE'RE GRANTING THEM TO THEM.

AND WE WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT SPELLS OUT WHAT THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT EXPECTS THEM TO DO WITH IT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT IS IN PLACE, I'M ASSUMING THERE IS A LEVY AND IT GOES THROUGH AND OOKING AT THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THE WORLD. ISN'T THOSE FUNDS THAT OME IN FUNDS THAT ARE UNDER THE JURISDICTION AND OWNERSHIP OF THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT, NOT THE CITY NOR THE SCHOOL

DISTRICT? >> M. GREESON: RIGHT.

SO LTIMATELY, THEY WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.

WE'RE JUST IMAGINING HOW THEY >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. BUC

HER. >> M. GREESON: AND WE WOULD HAVE SEATS ON THERE BOARD THAT YOU WOULD APPOINT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MICHAEL, IT'S ALWAYS AT RISK WHEN I CRITIQUE MY BOSS WHO IS THE CITY MANAGER BY CHARTER PROVISION.

I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE NOT USED THE WORD, GRANT, BUT I UNDERSTAND BASED ON HISTORY WHY HE CHOOSE THAT WORD.

MY CONSWEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING IT WOULD BE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT IN WHICH THE JRD WOULD THEN BE PROVIDING AS OPPOSED TO GRANTING THE FUNDS AS PART OF THE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.

SO THEY WOULD CONTRACT WITH SWIM INC. OR ANY OTHER ENTITY TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC SERVICES. WHETHER IT BE THE OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT OF A POOL. WHETHER IT WOULD BE OTHER FACILITIES OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THOSE WOULD BE SPECIFIC. THE MONEY WOULD COME ROM THAT

POOL OF TAX FUNDS FROM THE LEVY. >> M. GREESON: I'LL GO WITH WATT

HE SAID. >> P. BUCHER: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND EXTREMELY HELPFUL MEMOS.

I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. THERE FIRST IS WITH THE CODE NOT SPECIFYING THE SIZE OF THE BOARD, IS THERE A GENERAL SIZE THAT TENDS TO OCCUR FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR

MEMBERS OF THE JRD BOARD? >> M. GREESON: MR. BARNHARDT, DO

YOU SEE THAT IN YOUR RESEARCH? >> REALLY FROM MY RESEARCH A LOT OF THE -- I THINK THEY REALLY, YOU HAVE SEEN AROUND MAYBE TWO PER ENTITY. IF LOOKING AT THE CITY AND SCHOOLS, TWO EACH. THEN OTHER JRD'S OU WOULD SEE THE APPOINTING OF ADDITIONAL AT-LARGE SEATS.

REALLY WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE NDER THE OHIO CODE FROM WHAT I SAW IS YOU HAVE ONE FROM EACH ENTITY.

THAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED. >> P. BUCHER: ONE APPROACH TO

BE . >> M. GREESON: TWO FROM EACH THEN APPOINT A FIFTH. SO YOU HAVE AN ODD NUMBER.

I WOULD RECOMMEND FIVE TO SEVEN. >> P. BUCHER: THANK YOU.

SECOND QUESTION. IS THIS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY PRESCRIPTIVE IF IT GOES FORWARD TO ONLY HAVE FUNDING FOR THE POOLS? AND HOW BIG IS THAT SCOPE OR

EXTREMELY NARROW IF PASSED? >> M. GREESON: I BELIEVE YOU COULD WRITE IT AND I THINK YOU COULD WRITE IT AS A NARROWLY OR AS BROAD -- MOST OF THE ONES IN THE STATE ARE FAIRLY BROADLY WRITTEN. MEANING THEY CAN PURSUE ANY NUMBER OF RECREATIONAL NEEDS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY NARROW THAT BY LEGISLATION IF YOU SO DESIRE TO JUST AQUATIC FACILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CONCUR WITH THAT MR. LINDSAY?

>> YES, I AGREE THE SCOPE WOULD BE A MATTER OF THE TWO ENTITIES CREATING IT INITIALLY TO EITHER MAKE T BROAD AS MANY ARE

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THROUGHOUT THE STATE OR TO MAKE IT MORE NARROW, WHICH OCCASIONALLY IS THE CASE. THE BENEFIT I SUPPOSE OF CREATING A BROADER IS THAT YOU CAN EXPAND WITH FUTURE NEEDS WITHOUT HAVING TO RECREATE A NEW ENTITY AND HAVING TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES THAT ARE IN SOMEWHAT THE SAME SANDBOX BUT YET NOW SEPARATELY CREATED ENTITIES. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE BENEFIT OF DOING IT THAT WAY. IN TERMS OF THE BOND LEVY I ITSELF, WHILE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED ON THAT ISSUE AT THIS POINT, MY GENERAL UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE YOU COULD MAKE IT A MORE SPECIFIC AND THEREFORE LIMIT THAT PARTICULAR TAX LEVY TO A PARTICULAR PROJECT MUCH LIKE YOU SEE WITH SCHOOL LEVIES, WHERE IT'S FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THEY N MAY NOT HAVE THE DETAILSF THE BUILDINGS BUT IT'S FOR A HIGH SCHOOL OR NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR WHATEVER THE PARTICULAR NEEDS MIGHT BE. BY ANALOGY, THAT'S MY BELIEF WHERE ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS COULD OCCUR WHEN VOTERS ARE

CONSIDERING THE LEVY ITSELF. >> M. GREESON: I THINK YOU RAISED, MR. BUCHER, A KEY STRATEGIC QUESTION.

WHICH IS, DO YOU WANT TO CREATE THIS FOR THE PURPOSES OF SOLVING THIS PROBLEM? OR INSTEAD OF CALLING IT A PROBLEM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND JUST ADDRESS THE AQUATIC FACILITY NEEDS.

OR IN THE LONG TERM, DO WE SEE ONE OF HESE ENTITIES BEING BENEFICIAL TO SERVING THE RECREATIONAL NEEDS OF THE LARGER WORTHINGTON COMMUNITY? AND THAT'S A STRATEGIC QUESTION.

>> P. BUCHER: THANK YOU. I WOULD GENERALLY IKE TO LEAVE OURSELVES OPEN IF WE CAN IN THE CREATION OF THE DISTRICT.

AND LEVY BY LEVY WOULD BE SPECIFIC OBVIOUSLY.

LAST QUESTION IS IF THIS GOES FORWARD, OULD WE AS CITY OF WORTHINGTON HAVE MUCH INPUT ON POTENTIAL LEVY OR SOLELY GOING TO BE DICTATED BY THERE JRD BOARD?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK YOU ARE EMPOWERING A BOARD TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WHEN YOU CREATE HIS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD HAVE SOME NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS TO THAT BOARD, WHO WOULD REPRESENT THE

COMMUNITY AND YOU. >> P. BUCHER: THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THIS SIDE?

>> R. DOROTHY: JUST TO CLARIFY. MR. BUCHER, I THINK YOU ASKED A BUNCH OF MY QUESTIONS. IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN WE WERE GETTING THE PRESENTATION FROM MR. GREESON, YOU OUTLINED THE WAY WE WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BESIDES SWIM INC., THE YOUTH BOOSTERS.

I THINK YOU GAVE US A VISION OF BROADER SCOPE, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO MAKE AS BROAD OR NARROW SCOPE.

MR. BARNHARDT, THE MEMO WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OUTLINED HAVE A BROUGHTER SCOPE OF FACILITIES THAT THEY CAN USE THIS MONEY FOR, IS THAT CORRECT? BROADER --

>> I WOULD SAY THAT IS CORRECT. MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES I FEEL HAD A SPECIFIC PURPOSE ON WHY THEY WERE CREATING THE GRITHS.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY, YOU KNOW -- DISTRICTS, TIED THEIR HANDS TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND FOR FUTURE USES.

>> R. DOROTHY: ABOUT THE FUNDING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE ONCE WE CREATE THE BOARD, THE BOARD WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT FUNDING THEY WILL WANT. AND IF THEY WANT TO LEVY PROPERTY TAXES FOR A BOND OR OPERATING FUNDING, IT WOULD BE UP TO THAT BOARD? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> R. DOROTHY: AND THEN, IT WOULD ALSO BE UP TO THAT BOARD TO HELP CREATE ENOUGH POSITIVE INFORMATION, NEWS AROUND IT TO HAVE THEN THE GENERAL POPULATION

VOTE YES? >> M. GREESON: ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S HE CHALLENGE WITH ANY LEVY, RIGHT?

>> R. DOROTHY: YES. TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE.

>> M. GREESON: DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ADVANCE THE IDEAS OF THE OINT RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD.

WHICH WOULD BE CREATE BIDE THE BY THESCHOOLS AND CITY.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU. I PREFACE MY QUESTIONS WHICH MAY SOUND CRITICAL WITH A POSITIVE STATEMENT THAT I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONTINUED VITALITY OF THE POOL FACILITIES OUT DOOR AND INDOOR. WATER ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN AN ESSENTIAL PART OF MY LIFE, PARTICULARLY WHEN GROWING UP.

DEVELOPING WATER SKILLS IN MY MIND IS PART OF BEING A FULL

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HUMAN BEING. AND JOY IN AND AROUND WATER I THINK IS PART OF BEING A FULLY HAPPY HUMAN BEING AS WELL.

I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK PARTICULARLY THE SWIM INC. INDIVIDUALS IN FRONT FOR YOUR WORK.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE PRESENTED PRIMARILY SUCCESS STORIES IN YOUR PRESENTATION OF SYLVAINIA AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.

ARE THERE ANY EXAMPLES, MR. BARNHARDT, WOULD BE BEST TO ANSWER OR SOMEONE ELSE. BUT EXAMPLES OF WHERE A JRD HAS NOT DONE WHAT IT WAS HOPED TO HAVE DONE.

AND MAYBE COULD BE VIEWED AS NOT A SUCCESS STORY? SOMETHING WE MIGHT LOOK OUT FOR AS WE CONSTRUCT AND CRAFT OUR

OWN? >> M. GREESON: YEAH, MR. LINDSAY CAN PROBABLY TOUCH ON UPPER ARLINGTON.

THEY CREATED A DISTRICT SIMILARLY, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. THAT PLACED BEFORE THEIR VOTERS, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND I BELIEVE IT FAILED. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER. THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT I

BELIEVE WAS SUNSET. >> D. ROBINSON: ANY OBSERVATIONS OR REFLECTIONS EVEN IF THEY AREN'T COHERENT AND

COMPREHENSIVE? >> YES.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING ASPECTESS IS THAT THE -- ASPECTS.

IS THE JOINT RECREATION IN THE CITY OF UPPER ARLINGTON INCLUDED EXPRESS LANGUAGE IN ITS CREATION THAT IT WOULD SUNSET IF THE LEVY TO FUND THE COMMUNITY CENTER DID NOT PASS AT THE NEXT NOVEMBER ELECTION AT WHICH THAT VOTE OCCURRED.

IT SORT OF SET ITSELF UP TO EITHER GO FORWARD IF THE PUBLIC WAS SUPPORTIVE OR TO FADE INTO THE SUNSET IF THEY WERE NOT.

SO THAT WAS A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THAT ONE.

IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH UPPER ARLINGTON'S HISTORY OF COMMUNITY CENTER EXPLORATION. IT PROBABLY MADE SENSE BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN PRIOR PUBLIC VOTES REGARDING HAVING A COMMUNITY CENTER. SO IT WASN'T A NEW THOUGHT.

IT WAS ONE THAT HAD GONE BEFORE. AND IT WAS TIME TO SEE IF THAT ONE WOULD WORK. FOR URPOSES OF THIS JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT, T THAT WOUD BE AN OPTION.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY AS LIKELY TO BE PART OF THIS.

BUT IT COULD BE IF THAT WAS THE SOLE THOUGHT OF ONE SPECIFIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR POOLS. AND IF IT DIDN'T PASS, YOU WERE

GOING TO GO INTO THE SUNSET. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU.

FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE PROCEED DOWN THIS ROAD I OBVIOUSLY HOPE THAT WE SUCCEED IN THE LEVY AND SO FORTH.

BUT WHAT IF THE LEVY DOES NOT PASS, WHAT HAPPENS TO SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD SAY THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY? WHAT WOULD BE A RECOURSE FOR US IF THAT HAPPENED?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK ONE RECOURSE IS TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER OPTION WE PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER MEETING, WHICH IS THE CITY WORKS WITH SWIM INC. TO SUPPORT TO THE DEGREE POSSIBLE, AN OUTDOOR POOL COMPLEX. AND THE SCHOOL CONSIDERS INCLUSION OF NATATORIUM IN SOME FUTURE EVY.

THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE. WE PRESENTED LIMITED DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, WHICH MAY NOT ACHIEVE THE LEVEL OF OUTDOOR POOL THAT PEOPLE EXPECT.

BUT THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO LEVY CITY LEVEL TAXES LIKE A MILLAGE RATE INCREASE TO SUPPORT JUST THE OUTDOOR POOL.

THAT WOULD BE A THIRD OPTION, IF YOU WILL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE I'VE HAD BACKGROUND WITH MY PARKS AND REC BACKGROUND.

JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT IS VERY SIMILAR TO A PARK DISTRICT.

JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY HEARD ABOUT METRO PARKS.

THEY GO ON THE BALLOT FOR METRO PARKS AREA.

THEY HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET IF YOU PASS IT. SIMILAR RECREATION DISTRICT IS SIMILAR TO THE PARK DISTRICT. RECREATION DISTRICT CAN ALSO SEEK LOANS AND DONATIONS. IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, IT DOESN'T STOP THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD FROM BEING ABLE TO SEEK DONATIONS, AND FUNDRAISERS AND GET LOANS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE CITY CAN DO.

THERE IS HINGS THEY CAN DO, WHERE THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND DO FUNDRAISERS PER SE.

MORE LIKELY A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS WORKING WITH THE RECREATION DISTRICT WOULD GO OUT AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE, YOU

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KNOW, DOING THE FUNDRAISERS THROUGH THE SWIMMING, THROUGH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER OPTION THEY WOULD HAVE.

>> WOULD A FOUNDATION B BE POSSIBLE TO BE SET UP UNDER

THE PURVIEW OF A JRD? >> M. GREESON: UNDER THE PURVIEW OF HE JRD? MOST FOUNDATIONS ARE SEPARATELY.

WE HAVE AN EXISTING NOT FOR PROFIT.

THAT HAS TAX YOU CAN DONATE TO FROM A TAX-DEDUCTIBLE STANDPOINT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE A SEPARATE FOUNDATION AS WELL.

LET ME TRY TO ANSWER YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION.

I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION IF IT FAILED WOULD BE, WHY? AND WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO SUCCEED AGAIN? I MEAN, OFTEN THINGS GO BACK ON THE BALLOT AFTER YOU ANALYZED THAT'S ONE OPTION. THE SECOND WOULD BE, ACE, A SECOND ONE. NOT THE ONLY ONE WOULD BE WHAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE, WHICH IS YOU SEPARATE THE OUTDOOR AND INDOOR.

AND WE HELP WITH THE OUTDOOR. AND THE SCHOOL MAY HELP WITH THE INDOOR. AND THERE ARE INEFFICIENCIED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. UNCERTAINTY.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF IF WE DON'T THINK THE CASH OR DOLLARS WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE OUTDOOR POOL ARE SUFFICIENT TO ACHIEVE THE OUTCOME DESIRED, YOU ALWAYS HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, NOT A TON, TO RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE OR VOTERS COULD RAISE THE RATE INSIDE THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE OUTDOOR POOL. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT OR THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS THAT DISPROPORTIONALLY FALLS ON THE BACK OF A LIMITED NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS WHO BENEFIT FROM THE POOL AS OPPOSED TO ALL THE BENEFICIBENEFICIARIES OF THE PO.

THOSE ARE THE CONSCION I SEE AVAILABLE. I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MICHAEL, THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF OPPORTUNITIES O GET PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS WHETHER THROUGH THE NOT FOR PROFIT OR FOUNDATIONS OR A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

>> D. ROBINSON: LAST QUESTION. IF WE PROCEED DOWN THIS ROAD, WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER IN TERMS OF ANY ACTIVITY AT SWIM INC., AND THEN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE STATE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN SECURED IN SOME MANNER?

>> M. GREESON: I MEAN, IN TERMS OF ACTIVITY AT SWIM INC., I'M NOT SURE. I WOULD DEFER TO MIKE TO CURT AND MR. KELLER. WE HAVE -- WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WITH OD AND R, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WITH OD AND R, THE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES OF THE MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH PRESUMABLY, AND I WOULD INVITE THEM TO CORRECT OR ADD TO MY OMMENTS. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE RECIPIENT OF THOSE DOLLARS, NOT THE CITY. BUT PRESUMABLY, THOSE DOLLARS COULD BE USED TO FULLY DESIGN, DO CONSULTING WORK AND ESSENTIALLY LAY GROUND WORK FOR THE FACILITY CONTEMPLATED HERE.

NOW, TO WHAT DEGREE IF IT DOESN'T PASS? IT PUTS THOSE DOLLARS A AT RISK. AND HAVING TO BE PAID BACK, I

DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THERE IS ALSO A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN HOW MUCH YOU ASK WHEN YOU GO ON A BOND ISSUE.

AND WHETHER OR NOT A BOND ISSUE WOULD PASS I THINK PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, YOU MAY DO MORE THAN ONE LEVY.

MAYBE NOT GET EVERYTHING AT ONCE BUT THE FUNDS FOR THE OUTDOOR POOL FIRST AND COME BACK FOR THE INDOOR.

THESE ARE STRATEGIES THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT DISTRICT WOD TO LOOK AT. WHAT WOULD THE NEXT STEPS BE? SETTING UP A COMMITTEE? WE HAVE MS. KOWALCZYK ALREADY.

AND WORK IF COUNCIL FEELS IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THE EXT STEP WOULD BE GETTING -- HAVING A SMALL WORKING GROUP, GETTING MATERIAL SAID, COMING BACK TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CITY? WHAT'S A TIMELINE OR GAME PLAN?

>> M. GREESON: LET ME CHUNK IT FOR YOU.

WHAT I SEE HAPPENING. I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE HAD

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INTERACTION WITH SWIM INC., THE SCHOOLS, COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS. WE WOULD CONTINUE THAT AND TRY TO SET UP A WEEKLY MEETING. WITH THE GOAL OF BRINGING BACK MORE DETAILS, WRITTEN AROUND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE RAISED AND CORE CONCEPTS YOU HAVE RAISED.

ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. BUILD OUT OUR RESEARCH A LITTLE MORE FROM THE OTHER ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WE'LL HAVE DRAFT LEGISLATION.

AND WE WOULD SHARE THAT WITH THE SCHOOLS AND YOU AND ALL THE PARTNERS AHEAD OF TIME SO WE HAVE A WORKING DOCUMENT.

IF WE SHARED THAT AT THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, GOT YOUR FEEDBACK, PRESUMABLY WE COULD GET BEFORE THE SCHOOLS RELATIVELY QUICKLY. AND DO THE SAME WITH THEM.

I HAVEN'T LAID THIS OUT IN THE MEETING SCHEDULE YET BUT I WILL.

THERE WILL BE A CHART BEFORE THIS IS ALL OVER.

THEY GET THOSE COMMENTS. AND THEN PREPARE WHAT APPEAR, HOPEFULLY WOULD BE A CONSENSUS JOINT RESOLUTION.

AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO ACT ORIGIN MIRROR RESOLUTIONS.

SO WE WOULD TRY TO INTERACT WITH BOTH ENTITIES IN SESSION TO SOCIALIZE IT, MAKE CHANGES AND BRING IT BACK HOPEFULLY IN JOINT AGREEMENT. AND WE WOULD DO THAT ALL WITHIN ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT MONTH. WE WOULD ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AS POSSIBLE. RECOGNIZING THAT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS ABOUT PROJECT SCOPE, SOME OF THOSE DETAILS ABOUT WHETHER AN OPERATING LEVY COMPANION PIECE IS NECESSARY.

THE AMOUNT OF THE LEVY. EXACTLY WHO IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED. ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE SUBSEQUENT ACTIONS. SO AFTER IT'S CREATED, YOU WOULD THEN APPOINT POTENTIALLY BY THE END OF MARCH YOU WOULD APPOINT MEMBERS. SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE GOVERNING ENTITIES HANDED OR ADOPTED BYLAWS FOR THE JOINT RECREATION DISTRICT ALONG WITH THE LEGISLATION SO THE NEW BOARD DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND A MONTH DEVELOPING ESSENTIALLY OPERATING PROCEDURES.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT DOING THAT. AND THEN THE SEAT THE NEW BOARD.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS HOW THAT BOARD IS SUPPORTED. AND THERE MAY NEED TO BE WHAT I CALL, SEED MONEY. OR DOLLARS SET ASIDE BY THE CITY OR BOTH ENTITIES FOR THAT ENTITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS FINANCIAL ADVISERS AND LEGAL COUNSEL TO AFFECT THEIR MISSION.

AND WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN MARCH ON THAT AS WELL. THEY WOULD THEN IN APRIL GET TO WORK. AND I THINK IN APRIL, MAY, JUNE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON COLLABORATIVELY WITH SWIM INC.

TO GET COMFORTABLE W WITH A PROJECT THAT COULD BE FUNDED.

AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT. AND THEN OUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON A NOVEMBER BALLOT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED IN JULY AND CERTIFIED TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS IN THE EARLY WEEKS OF AUGUST TYPICALLY.

AND SO IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE.

OF COURSE, WHILE THOSE DETAILS ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND PRESUMING THAT THERE IS A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME OF THAT AND THAT SOMETHING IS PLACED ON THE BALLOT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL UNLESS THERE IS A COMPANION GROUP THAT IS ORGANIZING IN THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THE ACTIONS OF THE JOINT

RECREATION DISTRICT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: COUNCIO

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GAVE -- TURNED IN A YELLOW SLIP THAT WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ON THIS TOPIC. KATY MINISTER, DO YOU STILL WANT TO COME UP? OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M PERSONALLY REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT. SOME OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE SWIMMING COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS. OUR HILDREN SWIM.

AND PLANNING TO PLAY WATER POLO AND ALL THAT STUFF.

I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW SOLUTIONS FOR THIS POOL FUNDING SITUATION.

ADDITIONALLY, WHY I'M HERE IS I'M REPRESENTING A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THAT POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR THE POOLS. AND I DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST I SPEAK FOR ANY OF THESE PEOPLE. FRANKLY, I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO NEW HOW TO MAKE A GOOGLE FORM AFTER THE DECEMBER MEETING. GOT PEOPLE TO SIGN UP AND SAY THEY WANTED TO HELP. THIS GROUP CONSISTS OF NEARLY 100 PEOPLE. AS YOU CAN SEE, STUDENTS WHO ARE ON THE WATER POLO, SWIM AND DIVE TEAMS, MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

MANY WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND EVEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIES TO THE WORTHINGTON POOLS BUT NOT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING A POSITIVE OUTCOME. AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS GROUP, REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS MAKE COUNCIL AWARE THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO SUPPORT WHATEVER THE GO FORWARD SOLUTION IS THROUGH VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME. ASSISTING WITH CAMPAIGNING OR FUNDRAISING AND ANY OTHER NEEDS THAT SHOULD REQUIRE MORE HANDS AS THE SOLUTION COMES TOGETHER. PROBABLY THAT'S TIMELY GIVEN THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME HERE AND SPEAK. THANK YOU OR CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE. IT'S SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.

THE POOLS ARE A VERY MPORTANT COMMUNITY ASSET TO MANY OF US IN WORTHINGTON. AND THAT'S BOTH BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY IT HOLDS FOR SOME OF US, BUT ALSO FOR THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THAT IT BRINGS TO OUR CHILDREN.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: SOMEBOW

DO THEY LET YOU KNOW? >> THEY CAN LET ME KNOW.

MY EMAIL, CAN I GIVE IT? IT'S KATY DOT MINISTER AT GMAIL

DOT-COM. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT THE POOL CONCEPT. THANK YOU FROM ALL OF US.

WE APPRECIATE IT. AND LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING HOW

THIS UNFOLDS AND WORKS TOGETHER. >> THANKS.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> B. KOWALCZYK: WE HAVE YOUR EMAIL NOW. WE ARE SIGNED UP.

>> I THINK BY STANDING HERE I MADE IT CLEAR, WHATEVER YOU NEED, HERE WE ARE. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU.

MOVING FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBERS, DO WE FEEL WE WANT STAFF TO -- SIGNIFICANT -- A LOT OF WORK I THINK WAS WHAT YOU SAID.

DO WE HAVE ANY DEFINITION OF WHAT --

>> M. GREESON: DON'T TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. NO.

WE HAVE A -- >> R. DOROTHY: IT WON'T BE A SIGNIFICANT LIFT THAT MIGHT PUSH OTHER PRIORITIES DOWN A BIT WHILE THIS TOP PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE WE MEET DEADLINES BECAUSE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT DEADLINES FOR THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

>> M. GREESON: LIKEWISE, I THINK WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN EFFORTS LIKE THIS. AND IT'S A -- IT WILL NOT BE INSIGNIFICANT. BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. AND THERE IS A NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: GENERAL CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD? DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR HAVING

STAFF MOVE FORWARD? >> M. GREESON: GENERAL CONSENSUS IS FINE. THERE WAS NE AQUATIC --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M SEEING ALL HEADS ARE UP AND

DOWN. >> M. GREESON: ONE AQUATIC DIGNITARY, DOUG SOUTHIGATES, HE'S ON THE SWIM BOARD.

IF I DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, I MIGHT HEAR ABOUT IT.

JOKING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY

OTHER THINGS FROM COUNCIL? >> B. KOWALCZYK: IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING YOU THINK I SHOULD BRING UP OR QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK, LET ME KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH ME.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TOO.

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>> B. KOWALCZYK: I KNOW. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FROM SWIM INC. YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING.

YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME. IF SOME STUDENTS HAVE TO GET UP IN HE MORNING AND GO SWIMMING EARLY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE OR TWO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE ALONG. WE APPRECIATE YOU ARE BEING HERE AND YOUR SUPPORT. AND YOUR CARE AND CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY. MR. GREESON, LET'S MOVE TO HE

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COST RECOVERY. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MIC MICHAEL, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HURLEY AT THIS POINT. AND JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY ENGAGING ON THAT SUBJECT, YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON. PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED. I THOUGHT WE HAD GREAT INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AND PARKS AND RECREATION COST RECOVERY.

MAYBE NOT. I WILL SAY IT SEEMS PARKS AND RECREATION WE'RE OFTEN THE FIRST TRIAL GROUP FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS AND I NEVER KNOW HOW TO TAKE IT.

I CHOOSE IT AS A OMPLICATE. BUT I SUPPOSE IT COULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. OUR STAFF WORKED WITH ERIC JOHNSON TO COMPLETE THE REPORT DISTRIBUTED TO YOU I BELIEVE A COUPLE F WEEKS AGO. IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO IG INTO IT BACK TO THE INDEX, AND THE SUMMARY IN THE BACK YOU WILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL THAT IT TOOK TO UILD THE SUMMARY CONCLUSIONS. AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS, HOLLY KELLER, THE RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT. AND THE GOLD CENTER MANAGER WHO SPENT GRISWOLD, HOURS DOING DETAIL WORK THAT BUILT THE REPORT. MR. BARTTER AND OKAY HIS STAFF HELPED WITH A LOT OF REPORTING INFORMATION AS WELL.

PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF ARE PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DO AND THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE. AND OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE REVENUE GENERATION HAS INCREASED.

I THINK WE WELCOME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE. NOT ONLY FROM COST RECOVERY AS IT GOES IN TERMS OF REPORTING BUT OBVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.

TO KIND OF MEASURE HOW E'RE PERFORMING IN THE EYES OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHETHER WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS WILL BE KIND OF A MULTISTEP PROCESS. AND SO WE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I KNOW WAS IN YOUR MEMO.

BUT I'LL EXPLAIN ETTER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ERIC JOHNSON WITH REVENUE AND COST SPECIALIST.

HE CAME FROM CALIFORNIA. SO TO IM, IT'S LIKE 6:00.

HE'S PROBABLY THE MOST WIDE AWAKE HERE.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. IT'S GOOD TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THIS COST RECOVERY SERVICES FOR THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO GIVE BACKGROUND ON ME.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS FOR HUNDREDS OF STUDIES AND DOZENS AND DOZENS IN FIVE STATES.

IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. I WANT TO THANK NOT ONLY DARREN BUT HIS STAFF FOR THE WORK THEY PUT IN.

A LOT OF MEETINGS AND TIME SPENT.

THEIR EFFORT TURNED INTO WHAT I BELIEVE IS A GOOD SOLID REPORT.

FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUMP IN AND WE'LL ANSWER AS WE GO ALONG. WHAT DID WE DO? WE BASICALLY COSTED OUT ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THE WORTHINGTON PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROVIDES TO THE PUBLIC, TO ITS CUSTOMERS. AND WE BASICALLY TREAT IT LIKE WE'RE A BUSINESS. WHAT ARE THE FULL COST TO PROVIDE SERVICES O YOUR CUSTOMERS? HOW DID WE DO IT? WE WALK THROUGH IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS SERVICES. IF WE GET INTO DETAIL, THERE ARE

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HUNDREDS. WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. WE ENDED UP WITH 30 SERVICES, GROUPED INTO FIVE GROUPS. INFORMATION CAME FROM SITTING WITH STAFF, IDENTIFYING WHERE ARE THEY SPENDING PART-TIME SALARIES. AND REVIEWED THAT AGAIN.

REVIEWED THAT AGAIN. HOW ARE THE OPERATING EXPENSES ALLOCATED? HOW ARE FACILITIES USED? HOW ARE FIELDS USED? HOW OFTEN, AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND GRISWOLD? SO WE IDENTIFY THE DIRECT COST PROVIDING SERVICES AND ANCILLARY COST, THE OVERHEAD COST, THE STAFF NOT PROVIDING DIRECT SERVICES BUT SUPPORTING THE STAFF THAT ARE, WHETHER IT BE IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR GRISWOLD, OR JUST GENERAL ADMINISTRATION WITH DARREN AND SOME OF HIS OTHER STAFF. WE IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE SALARIES. BOUGHT THE ACTUAL SALARIES AND BENEFITS FROM FINANCE. LOOKED AT THE 18-19 BUDGET TO ALIVATE OUT THE NON-PERSONNEL COST.

AND FULLY ALLOCATED HOURLY RATE, SALARIES, BENEFITS, OPERATING EXPENSES. BUT ALSO, EPARTMENT AND DIVISION OVERHEAD. WE DID NOT INCLUDE CITY OVERHEAD. WE WANTED IT TO BE DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC. WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, WHAT WOULD A BUILDING RATE LOOK LIKE IF YOU WERE A BUSINESS.

THAT FULLY ALLOCATED RATE. THAT'S WHAT WE IDENTIFIED HERE.

AS I MENTION WE IDENTIFY THEP PROGRAM COSTS FOR THE FACILITIES AND FIELDS. WHAT ARE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE FACILITIES AND FIELDS. WHAT ARE THE REPLACEMENT COSTS FOR THE FACILITIES? WE IDENTIFY IF YOU BUILD AN COMMUNITY CENTER, WE AMORTIZE THAT OVER 50 YEARS AND COSTS ARE

NUINCLUDED, /50TH. >> R. DOROTHY: I LOVE THAT IF IT LASTED 50 YEARS. OKAY.

>> SO THOSE ARE PART OF THE COST IN HERE.

WE AVE BUS COSTS FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT USE THE BUSES.

SO THE FUEL AND THE BUS REPLACEMENT.

THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT STAFFING.

THOSE NOT PROVIDING USE, DIRECT SERVICES TO THOSE SERVICES.

THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT.

SO LET'S GET INTO THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT.

LET'S WALK THROUGH THE RESULTS. AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING US? IN THE HANDOUT, THERE IS A SUMMARY REPORT THAT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF NUMBERS. THREE DIFFERENT COLORS OF COLUMNS. I COULDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE POWERPOINT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING BLIND LOOKING AT NUMBERS. WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS A SUBSET OF THAT SUMMARY. I DID A SUBSET LOOKING AT THE RECREATION, PRESCHOOL, YOUTH PROGRAMS, CAMPS, SESSION CLASSES SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF THE METHODOLOGY AND WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE TELLING US. THE FIRST SLIDE --

>> ONIGHT, I JUST PUT A STAPLE 3 PACK AT YOUR PLACE AND ONE SHEET HAS A MULTICOLORED. HE'S GOING TO REFER TO THAT.

IT'S IN THE REPORT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG THROUGH IT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> WE HAVE JUST THE DIRECT CO COSTS. YOU SEE AT THE NOTES AT THE BOTTOM, PROGRAM COSTS OR PART-TIME COSTS INCLUDING BENEFITS AND THE DIRECT OPERATING EXPENSES AS WELL AS THE POOL LIFEGUARD COSTS, OR ALLOCATION OF THE POOL LIFEGUARD. MOST OF THAT ARE PART-TIME SALARIES. THERE ARE DIRECT SUPPLY SERVICES AND SUPPLY COSTS RELATED TO INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. IF YOU WANT TO EE THE DETAIL TO THE LINE ITEMS, IT EXISTS IN THE APPENDIX B OF THE REPORT THAT HAS FOR EVERY SERVICE, A COST DETAIL WORKSHEET IDENTIFYING WHICH POSITIONS AND PART-TIME SALARIES, WHICH DIRECT EXPENSES AND INDIRECT EXPENSES.

>> R. DOROTHY: DOES THE FITNESS FLOOR CATEGORY INCLUDE

EQUIPMENT? >> IT INCLUDES A GENERAL SHARE OF EQUIPMENT. WE DIDN'T GET INTO SPECIFICALLY THIS IS FOR FITNESS FLOOR AND OTHER PIECES OF THE FITNESS AREA. WE DID NOT GET INTO THAT LEVEL

OF DETAIL. >> B. KOWALCZYK: EQUIPMENT IS

ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE COST? >> ABSOLUTELY.

THE FULL-TIME COST OR FULL-TIME POSITIONS WORKING DIRECTLY ON THESE SERVICES. SO DIFFERENT PERCENTS OF VARIOUS FULL-TIME STAFF. WE ALLOCATED THOSE TIMES AND

COSTS. >> R. DOROTHY: ARE THE CATEGORIES ONES YOU SEE IS THIS SOMETHING OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR GROUPED TOGETHER? I WONDER WHEN WE GET TO COST COMPARISON AND WHAT EVENTUALLY WE WANT TO EMPHASIS AND BENCHMARK. HOW WELL DOES THIS MATCH UP?

OR WHO MADE THESE BUCKETS? >> OUR FIRST STEP WAS ALL OF US SITTING DOWN AND GOING THROUGH AND COMING UP WITH THIS LIST.

IT WAS A COMBINATION OF WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLA AND WHAT DARREN AND IS STAFF, WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALSO. IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF A TUG AND

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PULL BETWEEN MAKING IT SIMPLER AND HAVING ENOUGH DETAIL TO MAKE DECISIONS. SO IT WAS ALL OF US THAT CAME UP

WITH THIS TOGETHER. >> ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THE INITIAL STEP, BUT WE MAY WANT TO DRILL DOWN FURTHER, YOU KNOW, UNDER YOUTH PROGRAMS AND CLASSES YOU COULD CHOOSE CERTAIN CLASSES AND YOU MIGHT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE MAC WANT TO SEE ART CLASSES AT SOME POINT. WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE FRAMEWORK TO DO THAT. WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO GO INTO THAT

MUCH DETAIL. >> PART OF IT COMES DOWN TO AT WHAT LEVEL DO YOU WANT TO SET SUBSIDIES? IT'S HARD TO SET LEVELS AT INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. SOME SET LEVELS FOR THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT MAKES IT REAL EASY BUT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT. WE COULD HAVE SAID PROGRAMS AND CLASSES. TYPICALLY CITIES WANT TO BREAK

OUT YOUTH VERSUS ADULT. >> R. DOROTHY: WHAT DO OTHER TYPICAL CITIES DO. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED I GUESS IN THE SILVER SNEAKER COSTS.

BECAUSE I THOUGHT SILVER SNEAKERS WAS SUBSIDIZED BY

INSURANCE. >> THAT'S JUST THE COST.

WE HAVEN'T PUT IN REVENUE. THIS IS STAFF TIME.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN -- OKAY.

>> THAT WILL BE COMING. SO THE NEXT LEVEL ARE THE FACILITY COSTS. AND SO WE HAVE TWO COLUMNS THERE. ONE FOR FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND STAFF. WE SEE IN THE LUNES AT THE BOTTOM. FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND STAFF, GENERAL FACILITY STAFFS. PEOPLE AT THE COUNTER.

GENERALLY OVERSEEING THE TWO FACILITIES.

FACILITY FIELD AND MAINTAIN COST INCLUDES THE ACTUAL MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY. WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT COST.

BUT WHAT IS IN THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT STAFF. FIELD MAINTENANCE WITH DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND FIELD MAINTENANCE.

THE FACILITY REPLACEMENT AND BUS REREPLACEMENT AND FUEL.

NOW WE CERTAINLY ADDED A COST. A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION, WE ADDED A LITTLE OVER 800,000. NOW WE'RE GETTING TALKING TO SOME REAL MONEY NOW. AND THEN WE GOT INTO THE INDIRECTHESE ARE HE DEPARTMENT OVERHEAD COST, DEPARTMENT MANAGEMENT AND THOSE THAT PROVIDE SUPERVISORY UPPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT. WE ADDED 250,000.

SO A TOTAL COST FOR THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDES, THIS IS RECREATION PROGRAMS, FOR A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION.

SO NOW, WE WANT TO BRING IN THE REVENUES.

THESE ARE BASED ON THE 2018 REVENUES.

SO LOOKING AT THE DIRECT COST. AGAIN THE DIRECT PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME COST, A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION COSTS A.

WE'RE COVERED 125% OF ITS CORRECT COST.

WE'RE DOING GOOD. >> B. KOWALCZYK: GETTING TO SILVER SNEAKERS. ARE THE REVENUES FROM INSURANCE? OKAY. I'M FOLL FOLLOWING NOW.

>> NOW WE ADD IN FACILITY COSTS. 120% GOES DOWN TO 65%.

BECAUSE OF COURSE, THE FACILITY COSTS ARE A HUGE COST.

YOU CAN'T DO A PROGRAM IN HE PARKING LOT.

THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING ADD THE COSTS, THESE COSTERIZE SO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AND INCLUDE.

AND INCLUDE THAT CAPITAL COMPONENT, THE REPLACEMENT.

>> R. DOROTHY: THE COST ANALYSIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING?

WOW, THANK YOU. >> IT IS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ADD IN THE OVERHEAD COST IT GOES DOWN TO 58%. JUST FOR THE RECREATION PRO PROGRAMS. NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS INFORMATION? WE HAVE THIS GREAT INFORMATION.

WE'RE RECOVERING 60% OF THE RECREATION PROGRAM COST.

THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD THING.

THESE ARE WHAT THE COSTS ARE AND HOW MUCH RECOVERING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING THESE SERVICES.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO THIS PYRAMID IDEA.

WITHIN T THE RECREATION PROFESSION, DEVELOPED THE IDEA OF A SERVICE-LEVEL PYRAMID. WHERE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF TAX SUPPORT, COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS AT THE BOTTOM.

THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT AND LEAST LEVEL OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS AT THE TOP. LET'S WALK THROUGH THE LEVELS.

THERE IS NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT THE LEVELS.

IT'S A FAIRLY STANDARD THING. NOTHING SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE OR THEY BE SET US THIS WAY. THIS IS A FAIRLY STANDARD MODEL.

AT THE VERY BOTTOM, COMMUNITY BENEFIT ACCESS LEVEL ONE.

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0% COST RECOVERY. THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE COMFORTABLE TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS. ENHANCES THE RESIDENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE. MOVING UP THE PYRAMID.

LAST LEVEL OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SUBSTANTIALLY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. LEVEL THREE, MORE OF A BALANCED BENEFIT. 25 TO 50% COST RECOVERY A MUTUAL BENEFIT TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE PARTS WE FEEL AS A COMMUNITY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO OPHORINE THOUGH THERE IS A LARGER BENEFIT TO THE INDIVIDUAL. FOUR, THERE BENEFIT IS MORE CONSIDERABLE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAN THE COMPUTER.

50 TO 75%. BETWEEN 75 TO 100% OR OVER, THERE IS AN EXCLUSIVE BENEFIT TO INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPATES.

IF THE PROGRAM WENT AWAY, NO LOSS TO THE COMMUNITY FROM THAT PROGRAM. PARTICIPANTS.

SO THEN H HOW DO WE DETERMINE IF THE CURRENT RECOVERY GOALS AND WHERE YOU AND THE COMMUNITY WANT THEM TO BE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GET INTO DISCUSSIONS.

WE COULD SAY BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, WE'RE INCLUDING ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. JUST COMPRESSED DOWN TO BY PROGRAM. SO HERE'S OUR 57% FOR RECREATION PROGRAMS AT THE TOP. 58% FOR AQUATICS.

14-15% FOR SENIORS. 38% FOR RENTALS AND 23% FOR EVENTS. WE COULD GO IN, THIS PROGRAM IS RECOVERING THIS. HERE'S WHERE IT FITS ON THE PYRAMID. IS THAT WHERE IT BELONGS? THAT'S WHERE THE HARD WORK COMES.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE COST AND RECOVERY.

IS THAT WHAT IT SHOULD BE? IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE COMFORTABLE SUBSIDIZING TO THE LEVEL IT'S AT? WHERE DOES IT FIT ON THE PYRAMID AND WHAT DOES THE PYRAMID FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON LOOK LIKE? THAT'S WHERE WE GET TO NEXT STEPS AND DISCUSSION.

WE'VE DONE THE EASY WORK. THE HARD WORK COMES FROM, EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS TO WHAT THAT PYRAMID SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHERE IT BELONGS. THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO START. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REFERRED TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION FOR THE CONVERSATION TO START AND EVENTUALLY BRINGING IT BACK AFTER THEY HAVE HAD THOSE

CONVERSATIONS. >> I THINK -- IF YOU AGREE, I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE LIKE MR. JOHNSON SAID, FOR THAT TO GO TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION.

AND WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO COME BACK TO YOU, WOULD BE IN THIS PYRAMID FORMAT. BOTH WHERE WE ARE BASED ON THIS STUDY, AND WHERE THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THOSE PROGRAMS BE JUST BASED ON THEIR SENSE.

MIC] IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE. AND THEREFORE ADOPT AND DIRECT STAFF OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO START WORKING TO MOVE THOSE OUT LIARS TO THE RIGHT PLACE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THE MEMO OUTLINE WOULD BE THROUGH A SERIES OF THINGS.

I HAD PEOPLE SAY, ARE YOU GOING TO JACK UP THE FEES? A LOT OF FEES ARE MARKET RATES OR MAY NOT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.

IF IT WERE OFFER A COUPLE OF LEVELS ON THE PYRAMID, IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF STAFF COSTS, FEES, PARTICIPATION LEVELS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY, A PROCESS OF DEFINING WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET IT TO THE PLACE YOU EXPECT IT TO BE ON THE PYRAMID.

SOME CASES IT COULD BE GRADUAL. WE WORK IT THERE OVER TIME.

OTHER CASES WE'LL NEVER GET IT THERE.

YOU WILL HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU WILL ALLOW IT TO BE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF IN STEP THREE ONCE WE BROUGHT THE PYRAMID BACK TO YOU AND GOT YOUR APPROVAL.

>> THAT'S A KEY POINT. THE FEES ARE MARKET BASED.

IF IT'S TOO HIGH, THEY WILL GO SOMEPLACE ELSE.

OR DON'T DO IT. THEY ARE USE THEIR DOLLARS TO PURCHASE THE SERVICE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

IF IT'S TOO IGH, YOU WILL OSE THE SERVICE.

WHERE THE COMMUNITY SAYS IT SHOULD BE HERE, BUT A FEE STANDPOINT SAYS HERE, YOU NEED TO RECONFIGURE THE PROGRAM OR THERE IS NOT SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAM FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE IT NEEDS TO GO AWAY. THAT'S WHY THESE ARE HARD DISCUSSIONS. THERE IS ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT INDIVIDUAL SERVICES, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS

A WHOLE. >> INITIAL INTERACTION WITH THE PARKS COMMISSION, THIS S THE FIRST IME THE COSTS HAVE BEEN

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SHARED IN DETAIL WITH STAFF. THE COST OF BUSES OR FACILITY OR EVEN FULL-TIME STAFF TIME IS INTO THEIR SPECIFIC PROGRAMS ARE SOMETHING THAT IS NEW. EVEN GOING BACK TO SOME STAFF AND SAYING WE HAVE TO GET SOME OF YOUR TIME OUT OF THIS PROGRAM TO CONTINUE TO OFFER IT IS AN OBVIOUS STEP WE WOULD TAKE.

TO GIVE YOU BETTER NFORMATION AS TO THE FLEXIBLE TO MOVE UP OR

DOWN THE PYRAMID. >> ALSO INCLUDED ARE ANNUAL UNITS COLUMN. HOW MANY PARTICIPANTS AND TEAMS. IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF SCOPE AND SCALE, HOW MANY IN THE MEANTIME COMMUNITY ARE USING THE SERVICE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THE SWATH OR TARGETED TO AN INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF THE COMMUNITY.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I'M FASCINATED BY THIS PYRAMID.

AND THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT A COMPARISON AND INDIVIDUAL AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT. I WONDER SHOULD WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT ISN'T ALSO IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY? THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

>> -- WANTED TO PAY FOR IT, WHY NOT.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: ENSURING THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN ARGUE WHAT WE PROVIDE, THE REASON WE PROVIDE IT IS TO PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S -- >> R. DOROTHY: TALKING ABOUT

WHAT WE CALL THE TOP TIER? >> B. KOWALCZYK: JUST THE ANALYSIS OF, I MEAN, IT KIND OF PUTS A VALUE ON --

>> R. DOROTHY: RIGHT. I WOULD AGREE THAT IF WE WANT TO HAVE -- WHEN PUTTING THESE IN, IT'S LIKE A MATRIX.

WE WANT THE DEFINITION CORRECT WHEN DOING THAT.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION, I GUESS.

>> OTICE 75 TO 100% COST RECOVERY.

EVEN THOUGH I'M CALLING IT EXCLUSIVE, IT COULD HAVE A

BROADER DEFINITION. >> R. DOROTHY: I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION TO MAKE IT BROADER.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I THINK LOOKING AT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO USE SOMETHING, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT COMPARING NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO USE THE COMMUNITY ARDEN VERSUS WHO USE THE BALL FIELDS. IT WASN'T ABOUT JUST THE NUMBERS WHO ACTIVELY USE IT. WHILE FIND IT INTERESTING EXERCISE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A GOOD WAY TO ANALYZE OUR COST.

I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMISSION IF THEY HAVE

CHALLENGES FIGURING THAT OUT. >> I THINK THE INTERESTING THING, IT WOULD MR. GREESON AS WE WERE TALKING THIS OVER GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF SWIM LESSONS. THERE ARE COMMUNITIES WHO MAYBE HAVE EXTENSIVE BODIES OF WATER OR DROWNINGS WHO WOULD SAY, EVERY KID HAVE A SWIM LESSON AND IT SHOULD BE ON THE COMMUNITY.

THE OTHER COMMUNITY MIGHT SAY WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING AND CAN PAY. THEY ARE IMPORTANT BUT WE CAN DERIVE REVENUE FROM THOSE. SO THEY SHOULD BE UP TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID. I DON'T THINK NEITHER ARE WRONG.

IT JUST IS MORE COMMUNITY-SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY. AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU MAY VALUE, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY ARE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH BUDGET.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO DISTRIBUTE THE BUDGET, NOT JUST WHAT

INDIVIDUALLY IS IMPORTANT. >> B. KOWALCZYK: SOUNDS LIKE SETTING PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WANT TO PUT OUR FUNDING. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE RELATES TO THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGES.

AND OW IT PLAYED OUT. IS IT FAIR TO COMPARE US TO OTHER COMMUNITIES? IS THERE A COMPARISON THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ON HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES DO WITH THESE DIFFERENT? OR IS IT APPLES TO ORANGES?

>> IT'S HARD TO MAKE COMPARISONS.

I WOULD BROADLY SAY Y YOU ARE T, THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON IS DOING PRETTY WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POOL.

58% COST RECOVERY FOR A POOL IS VERY GOOD.

MOST POOLS ARE 20, 25%. FROM AN AQUATIC STANDPOINT, IT'S MUCH HIGHER, AND THAT'S FANTASTIC.

FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET WHERE YOU WANT. IT'S A MATURE, ROBUST PROGRAM.

IT'S MAKING SURE THAT BASICALLY I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S DOING TWEAKS. AND LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. MAYBE THERE ARE HINGS THAT STAND OUT VERSUS WHOLESALE WE NEED TO OVERHAUL HOW WE PAY FOR

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AQUATICS. >> B. KOWALCZYK: ARE THERE COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MORE COST RECOVERY? AND SOME THAT HAVE LESS?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- >> IT COMES DOWN TO THE FACILITIES. THAT'S TRINES SO MUCH OF THE COST RECOVERY. -- DRIVES.

OFTEN TIMES WE DID THIS FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

WE HAD TO USE THIS MODEL OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE FACILITIES OFF THE TABLE AS FAR AS NOT THE COST DON'T EXIST SAYING FROM A COST RECOVERY STANDPOINT FOR A COST RECOVERY GOAL WE WANT TO LOOK AT DIRECT COST. AND SO THEY HAD A HIGHER PERCENT RECOVERY THEN IF THEY LOOKED AT THE WHOLE.

IT'S EASIER TO REPRODUCE. WE WANT TO NOW THE WHOLE COST AND KEEP HEM ON THE TABLE AND SET THE GOALS BASED ON THAT.

BUT IT COMES DOWN TO IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REPRODUCE FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND HAVE STAFF TO COME BACK ANNUALLY AND SAY HERE'S HOW WE ACCOMPLISHED IT GOALS OR NOT AND HERE'S WHY.

IF SO, WE WANT A SIMPLER MODEL OR SIMPLER THINGS THEY ARE REPORTING BACK TO YOU SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO RECREATE THE STUDY

EVERY YEAR. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> D. SMITH: DO YOU HAVE A GAUGE? LOOKING AT THE FULL-TIME ND PART-TIME COST.

DO YOU HAVE A GAUGE ON FULL-TIME PERCENTAGE THEY ARE WORKING IN

AGGREGATE? >> WE DIDN'T GET INTO THAT.

WE LOOKED AT 100% OF THEIR TIME. FOR A LOT OF THE FULL-TIME STAFF THERE WAS THIS PERCENT ON THIS PROGRAM, THIS PERCENT ON THAT PROGRAM, AND X PERCENT TO DIVISION ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON, ESPECIALLY FOR RECREATION TAFF, TYPICALLY

WEARING A NUMBER OF HATS. >> D. SMITH: IN THE AVERAGE,

RECS PERSON SPENDS ON PROGRAMS? >> THE OVERWHELMING PERCENT.

75, 80, 85% ON PROGRAMS. AND FOR A LOT OF THE STAFF IT

WAS 100%. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> R. DOROTHY: I THINK I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEND THIS TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION. I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING.

THE DAY IT'S FINALLY PUT BEFORE US TO TRY AND PUT IT IN A STRUCTURE OR MATRIX TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE, I DEFINITELY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INPUT ON THAT. MR. BUCHER.

>> P. BUCHER: BRIEFLY TO BUILT OFF OF COUNCILMEMBER KOWALCZYK COMMENTS. IS THERE IN A NEGATIVE WAY THAT JUMPS OUT ON THE COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGES?

THAT SEEMS OUT OF WHACK? >> PROBABLY COULD BE DOING MORE ON RENTALS. BUT WITH RENTALS, SO MANY OF THEM, AND THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON, THE RESIDENT RATES.

AND WHERE RESIDENTS PAY LESS. THAT IS RELATIVELY COMMON.

IT'S ALWAYS, HOW DO YOU WANT TO USE YOUR RESOURCES? A LOT OF AGENCIES DECIDE IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITIES FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR WHATEVER. OTHERS DECIDE IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO GENERATE REVENUE TO SUPPORT OTHER PROGRAMS. THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION YOU HAVE TO AVE.

OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS ARE HEAD OF THE CURVE

ON MOST OF THESE THINGS. >> TO FOLLOW-UP, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES. THIS DOESN'T BREAKDOWN THE RENTALS INTO YOU KNOW A LOT OF OUR RENTAL TIME AND RESOURCES GO TO SUPPORT WYB WHICH IS NOT RECOVERING A GREAT PERCENTAGE OF COST. WE THINK THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AROUND NONRESIDENTIAL AND PARTIES WITH PRICES THAT COULD BE MARKED UP IF A NONRESIDENT GROUP RENTS BALL FIELDS WE SHOULD MAKE MONEY TO SUPPORT OTHER THINGS.

GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND MAKING SURE WE'VE HOUGHT THAT THROUGH NOW THAT WE HAVE DATA IS THE NEXT STEP WE'LL BE LOOKING

AT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'M GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN WITH MR. HURLEY FOR A MOMENT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COST RECOVERIES.

THERE HAS BEEN AN IDEA FLOATED AROUND ABOUT GETTING A LIQUOR PERMIT FOR THE GRISWOLD CENTER AND BEING ABLE TO TURN THAT INTO MORE OF A RENTAL FACILITY WHEN IT'S NOT OTHERWISE BEING USED.

AND HAVING A HIGH-COST RECOVERY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FITS IN

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WITH THIS. OR IF IT'S A SEPARATE TOPIC.

IT FIT IN IN THE SENSE OF TALKINTALKING ABOUT THE RENTALSA NEED FOR AN EVENT CENTER IN THE COMMUNITY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS COULD PICK UP THAT NEED.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD PROCEED.

BUT I HAVE HEARD THE CONCEPT. AND IF IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING A LIQUOR PERMIT FOR THE FACILITY AND THEN DOING THE REST WITH BUDGETING, WITH STAFFING AND THAT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH CHECKING OUT. JUST A THOUGHT.

>> MS. LIGHT WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S A GOAL ON HER EVALUATION THIS YEAR, TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF I GUESS MORE AGGRESSIVE MARKETING AND ENTAL OF THE GRISWOLD FACILITY.

AND DETERMINING WHETHER IS THERE REALLY REVENUE TO BE GENERATED WHEN YOU CONSIDER CLEANING AND WEAR AND TEAR AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT COME WITH A MORE ROBUST RENTAL PROGRAM FOR A FACILITY THAT ISN'T STAFFED ON THE WEEKEND.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A REPORT TOWARDS THE END OF THE

YEAR AFTER WE RESEARCH THAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTI? IF NOT, MR. GREESON, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON THERE AGENDA TO OUR FINANCIAL REPORT FIRST. AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, VERY MUCH FOR COMING ALL THIS WAY AND DOING THE PRESENTATION AND ALL

THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. >> MY PLEASURE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: FOR OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEO UNCIL, BEFORE I TURNOVER THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THEN THE ONE RELATED TO OUR FUND BALANCE TO MR. BARTTER, I WANT TO READ SOMETHING TO YOU AND HIM SINCE HE HASN'T SEEN IT. I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

IT SAYS, WE'RE PLEASED TO NOTIFY YOU THAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, ACRONYM, CAFR FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED 2018 QUALIFIES FOR THE GFOA CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING, THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING AND ITS ATTAINMENT REPRESENTS SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND MANAGEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE CREDIT BUT T'S MR. BARTTER AND HIS STAFF THAT SHOULD. AND SO I APPLAUD HIM FOR THE BFOA CAFR RECOGNITION. YOU NEED TWO ACRONYMS. WITH THAT, EXPECT HIM TO HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL FINANCIAL REPORT.

>> VERY EXCITING. LONG AWAITED.

IF I COULD TAKE ONE SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY STAFF, STEVE GANDY, CHERYL AND ANGELA HARRIS ON RECORD.

TREMENDOUS CONTRIBUTORS TO ALL THINGS FINANCE.

CERTAINLY THAT WOULD NOT BE-- WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE SUCH A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD WITHOUT THEIR EFFORT.

[6.B.I. Financial Report - February 2020]

VERY EXCITING. YOU HAVE N FRONT OF YOU THE JANUARY 2020 FINANCIAL REPORT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THAT. IF THERE ARE NONE, LIKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: QUESTI? MR. ROBINSON.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU. THIS MAYBE COVERED IN THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUND BALANCE?

>> IT IS COVERED IN THE -- WELL, IT'S NOT COVERED IN THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION I GUESS. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH REPORTING MONTHLY, YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SEEING EBBS AND BLO FLOWS.

THIS HAPPENED IN THE JANUARY OF 2019.

ALTHOUGH, NOT TO THIS EXTENT. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE UNENCUMBERED BALANCE AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR ECAUSE DEPARTMENTS INCUMBER THEIR IN-- NOT ENTIRE BUDGET BUT A LARGE PORTION OF THE BUDGET. DIADDITIONALLY IN 2020, WE PAID THE FIRST PAYMENT TO THE NORTHWEST CENTER FOR 911 DISPATCH, PPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILLION.

JUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING, ALL THE STARS ALIGNED, IT WAS A THREE-PAY MONTH. THAT ADDED APPROXIMATELY $600,000 WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE I KNOW 34 ENCUMBER, THAT WILL BUILD UP THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE RECEIVE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.

AGAIN, WITH MONTHLY REPORTING, YOU ARE GOING TO BE SEEING THESE

FLUCTUATIONS. >> D. ROBINSON: TAX REVENUES THIS JANUARY COMPARED TO LAST WERE UP 2.5%?

DOES MY MEMORY SERVE ME? >> 2.4%.

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YEAH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT MS. DOROTHY MOVES WE ACCEPT THE FINANCIAL REPORT, SECONDED BY MR. ROBINSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY . OPPOSED LIKE SIGN? THE FINANCE REPORT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

[6.B.II. General Fund Balance Discussion]

MR. BARTTER. >> YES.

A LOT OF TO TALK ABOUT. -- A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

THIS IS THE CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY RECALL IN 2018, WE UPDATED THE GENERAL FUND TO CARRYOVER BALANCE POLICY FOR THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THAT UPDATE INCLUDED CHANGING THE TARGET ENCUMBER FUND BALANCE TO 35 TO 50%.

AND WE ESTABLISHED A FINANCIAL ACTION PLAN.

BOTH FOR THE IF THE FUND BALANCE FALLS BELOW CERTAIN THRESHOLDS AND GOES OVER. LUCKILY TODAY, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IF IT GOES OVER THE ENCUMBERED 50% OF THE PRIOR YEAR. ONE OF THE CAVEATS WE CARVED OUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PO POLICY, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD SCHEDULE A DISCUSSION IS CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE CURRENT FINANCIAL LANDSCAPE, REVENUE TRENDS, AND IF THIS DISCUSSION WOULD INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT THE CITY SHOULD USE A PORTION OF THE BALANCE FOR ONE TIME EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S VERBATIM.

WE WANTED TO ADHERE TO THAT SECTION IN THIS POLICY.

DECEMBER 31ST, 2019, WE DID FINISH ENCUMBERED BALANCE OF 54.12%, WHICH SETS THE TRIGGER FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

I DID INCLUDE MY 2018 MEMO THAT KIND OF OUTLINED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FUND BALANCE AND ENCUMBRANCES AND DEFINITIONS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TOUCH BASE AS TO WHAT IS AN ENCUMBRANCE. THAT MEANS A COMMITMENT TO PAY INTO THE FUTURE. AND SOME BIG ONES WE HAVE OUTSTANDING DECEMBER 31ST, HEALTH INSURANCE, UTILITIES.

THE ELECTRIC BILL, GAS BILL, WATER BILL FROM DECEMBER OF 2019 ARE PAID WITH 2019 MONEY WHEN THE BILLS COME IN JANUARY OF 2020. SO WE CARRY ENCUMBRANCES TO PAY THOSE. SAME WITH THE WATER LINE STUDY, POGGEMEYER FOR THE VISIONING AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL STUDY.

I HAVE JUST COMPLETED THE COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT GENERAL FUND. ONE OF MANY REPORTS.

THIS IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, THIS IS A SEPARATE ONE.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE REPORTS TO DO, UNFORTUNATELY IS THE PRINTER IS BEHIND. I DO NOT HAVE A HARD COPY TO DELIVER TONIGHT. I DID PUT IT OUT ONLINE.

IT'S AVAILABLE O YOU ONLINE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK IT THERE. I HOPE TO HAVE A HARD COPY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO AND CAN DELIVER THOSE AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE GENERAL FUND OES CONTAIN FINANCIAL TREND DATA THROUGH 2010 THROUGH 2019, 60 PAGES OF GRAPHS, CHARTS, INCLUDING GENERAL FUND BALANCE, LONG-TERM DEBT, ET CETERA. THIS IS A CHART, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF LINES AND SQUIGGLY AND STRAIGHT LINES. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUND BALANCE. AS YOU CAN SEE LOOKING FORWARD, WE FINISHED 2019 WITH THE 54%. WE ARE ANTICIPATING FINISHING 2020 WITH ABOUT A 45%. THAT GOES TO 38% IN 2021, 2022 IT'S 39. OUT TO 2024, STILL ABOUT 35%, RIGHT AT THE 35%. SOME CONTRIBUTING FACTORS OF COURSE ARE THE TRANSITION OF THE NORTHWEST CENTER.

THAT'S SOME OF THE REASON WE'RE SPENDING DOWN THE BALANCE IN 2020. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER WHEN LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT IT DOES ASSUME A 5% INCREASE IN INCOME TAX REVENUE IN 2021.

WHATEVER GENERATES THAT. MY THOUGHT WAS IT WOULD BE THE RETURN OF EMPLOYERS IN THE ANTHEM BUILDING.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THE CASE. AS WE PROJECT OUT, THIS REFLECTS THE 5% INCREASE IN 2021. AND THEN IT'S 2.5% OUT FROM THAT. PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS, SHOULD WE USE A PORTION OF THAT FUND BALANCE FOR ONE-TIME SE? WE ARE CURRENTLY USING A PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE FOR ONE-TIME USE TO ASSIST WITH THE TRANSITION OF THE DISPATCH CENTER TO NORTHWEST CENTER. THERE IS, WE HAVE PUT OUT THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FUND SWIM INC. WITH A PORTION

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THAT, DECIDED PENDING THE OUTCOME OF JOINT RECREATION DISTRICTS. I WANT TO STRESS THERE ANTHEM BUILDING CONTINUES TO BE VACANT. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND MAKING ANY BIG EXPENDITURE CHANGES AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW WE FINISHED THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

THAT BUILDING CONTINUES TO BE VACANT.

AND THEN WE NEED TO MAINTAIN FUND BALANCE TO PRESERVE TO FLEXIBILITY TO BORROW BETWEEN FUNDS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF IN AND OUT IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, WITH THE NORTHWEST GATEWAY. THE LAST MEETING YOU APPROPRIATED 1.2 MILLION OR APPROPRIATION, IT'S A CASH FLOW SITUATION. THERE MAY BE A NEED TO EVALUATE THE POSSIBILITY OF BORROWING FROM THE GENERAL TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND TO MAKE THE PAYMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST. THAT IS A REIMBURSABLE EXPENSE.

THAT WOULD SAVE US BOTH NTEREST AND ISSUANCE COSTS ON TEMPORARY NOTES. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT YET.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WILL NEAT TO EVALUATE THIS SUMMER.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY ACTION. BUT WE DID WANT TO TOUCH BASE WITH THIS INFORMATION. AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THIS MAY NOT BE THE TIME AND PLACE TO ADDRESS THIS, IT MAY BE BETTER WHEN YOU PRESENT THE YEAR-END REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I STUMBLED ACROSS A REPORT FROM JULY OF '18 AS I WENT THROUGH MY PAPERS IN MY STUDY AT HOME. AND ONE OF THE CHARTS CAUGHT MY EYE, THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST. I WAS STRUCK BY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE GOING OUT TO 2024? YEAH, THE PROJECTIONS BACK IN JULY OF '18 WERE OST PESSIMISTIC THAN WHAT I SEE H HERE, WHICH SURPRISES ME BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE UNEXPECTED NEGATIVE NEWS IN THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHY THE OUTLOOK LOOKS BETTER THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO FOR THE FUND BALANCE? AND AGAIN, IF IT'S TOO -- IT'S OKAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.

>> THERE ARE TWO OVERARCHING EVENTS THAT ARE EALLY HOVERING OVER THE FINANCES TO HAVE 24 CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

ONE IS THE TRANSITION OF THE NORTHWEST CENTER.

THE OTHER IS THE ANTHEM BUILDING.

I THINK IN 2018, WE DID NOT HAVE THE TRANSITION OCCURRING.

YOU ARE SEEING SOME SAVINGS HERE IN THE OUTYEARS DUE TO THE TRANSITION. THE OTHER IS ANTHEM IN 2018, WE WERE NOT PROJECTING IT TO COME BACK.

THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN MY FORECAST AT THAT POINT.

I HAVE CHANGED THAT. TO SHOW A 5% INCREASE IN 2021.

ON THE HOPE WE'VE GOT SOME FULL EMPLOYMENT GOING ON AT OUR BIGGEST OFFICE BUILDING. I THINK THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTING THE FLUCTUATION BETWEEN THE '18 AND MOST RECENT PROJECTION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY ELSE?

>> GOING FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW FREQUENTLY ARE WE ABLE TO REDISCUSS THIS? OR CHOOSE ACTION IF WE WANT DOWN

THE ROAD? >> I DISCUSS THE FINANCES EVERYTHING MONTH. I THINK IT'S AT YOUR -- YEAH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY. HAPPY TO DISCUSS FINANCES

ANYTIME YOU WOULD LIKE. >> R. DOROTHY: ARE WE GOING TO BE-- IN THE MEMO THAT WE HAD, WE'RE DOING THE -- HAVING THE MATERIAL OVERFUND. ARE WE GETTING RATED AGAIN ANYTIME SOON? IT MENTIONED --

>> I HAVE A MEETING WEDNESDAY TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE BONDS IN 20 OR TEMP NOTES.

THAT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED. IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ISSUING THE FULL BOND SSUANCE IN 2020, WE'LL NEED TO GET RATED.

>> R. DOROTHY: ALSO, IN THE MEMO IT DOES NOTE WE HAVE OTHER NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE THEIR PRIOR YEAR FUND BALANCE PRIORITY SET AT 50% IS WHAT -- SO I MEAN, WE'RE I THINK WESTERFIELD, 50, GRAND VIEW IS 28.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE AT 35%. IT MENTIONS HOW IF WE HAVE THE HIGHER CARRYOVER POLICY WE'RE ABLE TO LEND OURSELVES MONEY,

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WHICH YOU NOTED FOR THE C.I.P., WHICH IS GREATLY FUND BY OUR

INCOME TAX. >> CORRECT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

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MOVING ALONG. AND MR. GREESON, DO YOU HAVE ANY

ANNOUNCEMENTS? >> M. GREESON: I DO NOT.

WELL, I DO HAVE ONE. I'M SORRY.

GYPSY MOTHS. YEAH, THERE IS A MEETING THIS WEEK, IT'S WEDNESDAY, RIGHT? IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHERE WE'RE HOSTING A MEETING ABOUT GYPSY MOTH SPRAYING.

FOR THOSE OF YOU ON COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WAS AN AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION PROVIDED PRIOR TO THAT OCCURRING. THE GYPSY MOTHS OBVIOUSLY DESTROY FOLIAGE AND ARE NOT GOOD FOR TREES.

I'LL ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU HAVE INFORMATION PULLED UP.

GO AHEAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE. SORRY, MS. STEWART HAS HER GYPSY MOTH INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON HER SCREEN.

>> WE RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE HAD -- WORTHINGTON IS PART OF THE CENTRAL OHIO FROM THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED WORTHINGTON AND THE SURROUNDING AREA IN CENTRAL OHIO TO SPRAY FOR GYPSY MOTH TO CONTROL THE POPULATION.

SOME OF YOU AY RECALL THIS, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS. THEY WILL DO IT IN THE SUMMER.

AND IT USUALLY INVOLVES A LOT OF LOW-FLYING PLANES.

EVEN THOUGH WE PUT OUT INFORMATION WE TOOK A NUMBER OF CALLS, WHY ARE THESE PLANES FLYING SO LOW OVERHEAD.

THERE WILL BE SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE IN WORTHINGTON ON FEBRUARY 12, WEDNESDAY, FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. AND PERRY TOWNSHIP ON FEBRUARY 13TH IF THAT WORKS BETTER FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND GET INFORMATION. THEY WANTED TO NOTIFY US AND ASKING FOR A RESPONSE BACK THAT WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED AND WE'RE OKAY WITH THE TREATMENT. YOU MAY RECALL THE TREATMENT ACTUALLY RELATES TO SUPPRESSING THE PHEROMONES OF GYPSY MOTHS.

THE TREATMENT IS NOT HARMFUL TO HUMAN BEINGS, HONEYBEES OR PLANTS. IT DISRUPTS THE MATING CYCLE FOR

THE MOTH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> D. ROBINSON: I SUSPECT THE GYPSY MOTHS MIGHT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: GOOD POINT.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION? >> A MOTION WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD. I THINK THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING FROM THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO COUNCILMEMBER MICHAEL ACKNOWLEDGING AND ACCEPTING THE

TREATMENT PLAN. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED LIKE SIGN? YOU NOW HAVE YOUR MOTION. OKAY.

[7. Reports of Council Members]

ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: REPORTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.

MR. ROBINSON? >> D. ROBINSON: I'VE GOT THREE ITEMS. UNFORTUNATELY, MR. MEYERS IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. HE WOULD BE A CRITICAL VOICE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS. WE MUST PROCEED WITH ONE PERSON DOWN. THE FIRST RELATES TO UMCH COMP PLAN IN RESPONSE TO CITY MANAGER GREESON'S EMAIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE AND ASK THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, PUT IT ON AN AGENDA SOON. MY PERSPECTIVE IS THIS DISCUSSION WOULD NOT BE ABOUT THE END RESULT THAT EACH OF US MAY SEEK FOR THE PROPERTY. BUT WOULD BE ABOUT THE CITY'S POSITION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE PROPERTY OWNERS, ANY PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPERS AND CRUCIALLY THE PUBLIC.

AS I SEE IT, THE CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THE COMP PLAN THAT WAS WRITTEN, UPDATE, WRITTEN BACK IN 23, 14, THE BASIS AND REFERENCED BY THROUGHOUT LC'S PROPOSAL BACK IN 2015.

DOES NOT SERVE US WELL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IF THAT IS REPEATED. SO I URGE US TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA SOON. AND HOPE WE DO SO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE A POINT IN TIME WHERE ANYONE COULD RESPOND. I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL THING WE CANNOT REMAIN PASSIVE FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEARS AFTER THE LIFESTYLE PRESENTATION T THE WEK.

MY SENSE IS THE PUBLIC WILL B BE INCREDULOUS IF THEY SEE THE

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SAME COMP PLAN AFTER WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE LAST

FOUR-AND-A-HALF YEARS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING THE RETREAT ON ISSUE ORIENTATION AND WORKING WITH ISSUES.

DOES -- I WAS THINKING THIS WOULD PROBABLY FIT INTO SOMETHING WITH THAT. THAT IS COMING UP NEXT MONTH.

>> R. DOROTHY: THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION.

>> D. ROBINSON: THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE ISSUES

BROUGHT UP AT THE RETREAT. >> D. ROBINSON: THAT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: GETTING YES HEADSHAKES.

THAT'S WORKING. >> D. ROBINSON: GREAT.

APPRECIATE THAT. SECOND TOPIC RELATES TO THE ISSUE BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK ABOUT THE CONTRIBUTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER MICHAEL ACCEPTED. AND MY REQUEST FOR RECUSAL.

SINCE THAT TIME, I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CORRESPONDENCES FROM FOLKS AND THE PUBLIC ASKING ME HOW MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS STAND ON THIS ISSUE. I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.

BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD SERVE THE PUBLIC IF THEY KNOW HOW INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS STAND ON THIS, AND BECAUSE FRANKLY I'M CURIOUS HOW ALL OF YOU SEE THIS ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S DESIRABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCONTRIBUTIONS OR WHETHER WE SHOULD RECUSE OURSELF. I MOVE TO PASS A MOTION STATING TO PROMOTE PUBLIC TRUST IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT WE AS A COUNCIL REQUEST COUNCILMEMBER MICHAEL TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM THE FORTHCOMING DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE NCR PROPOSAL AT STAFFORD VILLAGE. SO MOVED.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IS THERE A SECOND?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY DISCUSSION?

FIRST. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO HEAR OUR OPINIONS ON WHETHER PRESIDENT MICHAEL SHOULD RECUSE HERSELF.

NOW YOU ARE ASKING FOR A MOTION WHETHER WE AS A BODY AGREE SHE SHOULD BE REMOVED. I THINK THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

I THINK IF YOU WANTS TO HEAR OUR OPINIONS ON THE ISSUE AND HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED ORWARD ON THIS KIND OF ISSUE, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE OF A PARTICULAR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION WE VOTE AS A BODY.

I WOULD NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF SUCH A MOTION.

BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHETHER WE SHOULD

BE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES. >> D. ROBINSON: NOTHING BRINGS GREATER CLARITY THAN A VOTE AND THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING BINDING IN A MOTION OR VOTE ON THIS MATTER? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.

>> I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT DEPENDING ON THE WORDING OF THE MOTION ITSELF, AND WHILE I WAS LISTENING I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT WRITTEN FOR MY OWN PURPOSES. BUT AT LEAST A REPEATING OF IT MIGHT HELP ME TO ESPOND AS TO WHAT BINDING AFFECT IT WOULD HAVE. IF IT'S A --

>> D. ROBINSON: THE INTENTION WAS NOT BINDING.

IT WAS A REQUEST ONLY. MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS NO ISSUE OF LEGALITY, IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED LAST WEEK.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT OUR NORMS. AND ASSUMED ETHICAL STANDARDS AS

A BODY. >> D. SMITH: POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE MOTION WOULD BE A REQUEST BY THE BODY, A YES VOTE WOULD BE A REQUEST FOR PRESIDENT MICHAEL TO RECUSE HERSELF. NOT A MANDATE?

>> D. ROBINSON: THAT IS CORRECT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE THING I WANT TO SAY THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

AS THE LAW DIRECTOR STATES THERE HAD O VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS LAW. THERE IS NO VIOLATION OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW IN DOING THIS, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, THE OHIO ETHICS COMMISSION HAS RULED ON A RULING ON A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION TO THIS IN WHICH IT STATED THAT WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A CAMPAIGN FINANCE CONTRIBUTION, IT IS NOT A GIFT. AND THEREFORE NOT TREATED AS THE PERSON GETTING PERSONAL GAIN FROM IT.

THREE, THIS ISSUE WAS SENT TO EVERY SINGLE VOTER IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF WORTHINGTON. AND IT DIDN'T UPSET VOTERS

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ENOUGH BECAUSE I CAME IN FIRST IN THE ELECTION.

SO I REALLY THINK THAT THE VOTERS KNEW ABOUT THIS AND

SUPPORTED ME IN BEING ELECTED. >> B. KOWALCZYK: I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT FINAL COMMENT.

THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING OPEN RECORDS AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS IS SO VOTERS CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WHEN THEY GO TO THE POLES AND UNDERSTANDING WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR CAMPAIGN. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND WHETHER WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ACCEPTING CERTAIN CONTRIBUTIONS AND THAT IMPACT, LET'S HAVE THAT FULL CONVERSATION.

NOT PICK AND CHOOSE SPECIFIC TO AN ISSUE THAT RIGHT NOW IS INCREDIBLY CONTROVERSIAL I THINK.

LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION WHETHER WE NEED TO SET LIMITS GENERALLY ACROSS-THE-BOARD. LET'S TALK ABOUT I THINK I'M CONCERNED THAT WE GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE.

WHAT IS THE NEXT ISSUE NEED TO CONSIDER? DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES UP FOR AN ISSUE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON? IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ISSUE, NOT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. ALSO BECAUSE IT CARRIES NO WEIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR HOW EACH OF US FEELS, THAT'S FINE. BUT HAVING A MOTION WHERE YOU WANT TO SAY THAT IN SOME WAY, SOME PORTION OF COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS OR DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SINCE IF IT DOESN'T HAVE BINDING AFFECT. LASTLY, COUNCILMEMBER MEYERS IS NOT HERE. BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE, THINK HE SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. I ASK YOU WITHDRAW THE OTION AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION AT THE RETREAT AND PROPOSE WHETHER WE

WANT STANDARDS ON THIS ISSUE. >> D. ROBINSON: I AM ABSOLUTELY FOR A THOROUGH DISCUSSION ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE, CAMPAIGN REPORTING. BUT THE DEED HAS BEEN DONE.

AND THE DISCUSSION IS NEXT WEEK. NO, I WILL NOT WITHDRAW THE MOTION. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS STAND ON THE ISSUE. IT'S AN IMPORTANT SSUE, MONEY AND POLITICS. A FUTURE DISCUSSION, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT WE HAVE AN ISSUE BEFORE US NEXT WEEK.

>> R. DOROTHY: I THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE BEFORE US NEXT WEEK.

I THINK THIS IS ORE OF A GLOBAL TOPIC.

I THINK WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THEIR PEOPLE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A GLOBAL CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. WE DO KNOW THAT MR. ROBINSON, YOU SENT OUT THAT LETTER TO ALL THE COMMUNITY THAT COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM YOUR OWN POCKET THAT WE DO KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY ON HAND.

WE ASK FROM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO FUND OUR CAMPAIGNS. AND THIS CAN BE A MUCH MORE GLOBAL CONVERSATION. I DON'T THINK THIS RESOLUTION OR PROPOSAL IS ADEQUATE TO MEET THE OVERALL, OVERARCHING CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE ON THIS TOPIC.

>> D. ROBINSON: AGAIN, I'M ALL FOR A ROBUST DISCUSSION, BROADER ISSUES. ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THE SPECIFIC CASE IN POINT RIGHT NOW IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF A SIGNIFICANT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CEO OF AN ENTITY WHO HAD BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THE PERSON ACCEPTING THAT SHOULD THEN ENGAGE IN THE DISCUSSION AND VOTE.

TO ME, THE PUBLIC I THINK VISCERALLY REALIZES THAT IS, IF NOT LEGAL, AN APPARENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT WAS RAISED IN A LETTER WRITTEN BY YOU AND SENT TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT IN THE CITY.

AND PEOPLE, IT DID NOT BOTHER PEOPLE THAT MUCH THEY VOTED ME

NUMBER ONE IN OFFICE. >> D. ROBINSON: SINCE YOU INVITE THAT ISSUE, I WOULD REMIND FOLKS THEN THAT YOU RECEIVED A TOTAL

OF 15% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS. >> D. SMITH: I CALL THE

QUESTION. >> D. ROBINSON: YEAH.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ALL THI N FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? 3-3.

NO MAJORITY. IT FAILS.

>> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ONE

MORE ISSUE? >> D. ROBINSON: THIS ALSO IS PROBABLY A FUTURE DISCUSSION. THE EMAIL WE ALL RECEIVED FROM

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SUZANNE SEALS DID RAISE FOR ME THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY LAST WEEK SHE AND ANOTHER RESIDENT WANTED TO MAKE OMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I'VE BEEN WORKING UP AN ANSWER TO MS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE STAFF AND LAW DIRECTOR, UNFORTUNATELY, THE LAW DIRECTOR SENT OVER FINAL DRAFT. IN WHICH I COULD NOT MAKE THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS I WANTED TO MAKE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T LET ME. IT WOULD NOT LET ME EDIT IT.

TOMORROW I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A RESPONSE TO HER AND COPY TO EVERYBODY, EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL.

>> D. ROBINSON: IS THERE A GENERAL POLICY --

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I HAVE IT EXPLAINED IN THE LETTER I'M

SENDING OUT TOMORROW. >> D. ROBINSON: ASIDE FROM THE DETAILS, I CAN'T REMEMBER SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL RESIDENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING OF A MEETING.

WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHEN SOMETHING IS INTRODUCED, IT'S BEEN THE POLICY TO NOT, IF SOMETHING IS GOING IN FOR INTRODUCTION AND THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT TOPIC, THAT IS THE ONLY TIME WE'VE HAD THAT.

>> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE WISDOM OF THAT

POLICY IN A FUTURE DATE THEN. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MMS. DR

OTHY. >> R. DOROTHY: THAT WAS INTERESTING. I DO WANT O REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE A WIFA PROGRAM TOMORROW THAT IS PARTNERED WITH THE LIBR LIBRARIES. 7:00 P.M. AT THE OLD WORTHINGTON LIBRARY. WHERE ERIN O'NEAL FOUND HERSELF STUCK IN CHINA WITH NO JOB AND $2,000 IN OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

SHE SENT OUT ON AN ADVENTURE. JOIN HER AS SHE DETAILS HER TRAVELS THROUGHOUT ASIA. 7 TOMORROW AT IFA.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE COLONIAL HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WE ALL GOTTEN EMAIL. WORKING WITH THE GRISWOLD CENTER FOR ABOUT RENOVATING YOUR HOME THAT WAS BUILT IN 1955 OR PREVIOUSLY WITHOUT SACRIFICING HISTORIC INTEGRITY.

THE REALLY COOL PORTION ABOUT IT, WHICH IS IN THE FINE PRINT IS IF YOU WANT YOUR OWN HOME TO BE LOOKED AT, YOU NEED TO REGISTER, PREREGISTER AND ATTEND THE SEMINAR AT 7:00 P.M. ON MARCH THE 5TH TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MARCH THE 6TH, PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH YOUR HOME AND GIVING YOU SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. THAT WAS ORGANIZED BY THE

COLONIAL HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL:

>> B. KOWALCZYK: ON A LIGHTER NOTE, THE CHOCOLATE WALK IS BEING HOSTED ON THE 13TH, WHICH IS THURSDAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I COULD USE SOME CHOCOLATE RIGHT NOW. I WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THAT

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. BUC HER?

>> P. BUCHER: BRIEFLY AS OF 12:30, THE POWER AID CLEAN FUTURE OHIO HAS LAUNCHED AND A SAVE THE DATE, I WILL SEND AROUND THE DOCUMENTS TO FOLKS AND CITY STAFF AFTER THE MEETING FOR A OHIO CLEAN ENERGY SUMMIT FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

CINCINNATI ON APRIL 30TH. THE ENTITY AND CAMPAIGN IS WORKING WITH LOCAL COMMUNITIES, CCITY MANAGERS ET CETERA, TO DO MORE ON COMMUNITIES WHEN THERE IS INTEREST.

IT COULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE WHETHER INDIVIDUALS OR CITY STAFF OR REQUEST A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON SOME IDEAS THAT WE MAYBE ABLE TO PICKUP GOING FORWARD.

AS WELL AS THE EVENT ON APRIL, IN CINCINNATI FOR THOSE WHO CAN

ATTEND. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK

[9. Executive Session]

YOU. SOUNDS WONDERFUL.

ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, WE HAVE TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PURPOSE OF BOARD AND COMMISSION AND APPOINTMENTS INTERVIEWS. MOVED BY MS. KOWALCZYK.

SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE OR GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> R. DOROTHY: YES. >> B. KOWALCZYK: YES.

>> D. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: CALLING THE RULE ON COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, MR. BUCHER?

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES. MR. ROBINSON MOVES WE ADJOURN, SECONDED BY MS. DOROTHY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIF

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