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LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE WORTHINGTON CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. MS. THRESS, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

I'M GOING TO MENTION WHAT I HAD MENTIONED LAST TIME BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE GETTING INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATED -- PARTICIPATING IN OUR MEETINGS.

WE LOVE THE INPUT. FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE ALLOW FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON FOR OMMENT.

AND SO IF SOMETHING IS ON THE AGENDA, WE ASK YOU TO WAIT UNTIL THE AGENDA TIME TO LET US KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, EMAIL COUNCIL AT WORTHINGTON.ORG OR THE CALL IN NUMBER ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.

[4.A. Ordinance No. 31-2020 Sewer Service Agreement with City of Columbus]

WHEN YOU CALL IN, LET US KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO THE CITY

[4.B. Ordinance No. 32-2020 Boundary Adjustment with City of Columbus]

COUNCIL MEETING. MS. THRESS, IS THERE ANYBODY IN

LINE AT THIS POINT? >> D. KAY THRESS: THERE IS NOT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: INTROD. ORDINANCE 31-2020.

AMENDING THE CODIFIED ORDINANCE 929.01 - SEWER CONTRACT WITH COLUMBUS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A THIRTY-YEAR SEWER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. A 30-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. INTRODUCED FOR HEARING ON JULY 20TH. INTRODUCED BY MR. ROBINSON.

MOVING ON. ORDINANCE 32-2020.

AGREEING TO ADJUST THE BOUN BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE COLUMBUS AGREEING TO THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON BY CONSENTING TO THE TRANSFER FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TO THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON OF APPROXIMATELY 2 ACRES AND THE TRANSFER FROM THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS OF APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN LAKEVIEW PLAZA BOULEVARD, SANCUS BOULEVARD, AND WORTHINGTON-GALENA ROAD.

INTRODUCED FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 20TH BY MR. BUCHER.

MOVING ON -- >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE INTRODUCTION DATE FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR.

LINDSEY TO DESCRIBE WHY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WENT

WITH WHAT WAS ON THE MINUTES. >> M. GREESON: YES, MA'AM, IT

WAS A LATE CHANGE. >> MR. LINDSEY: LATE CHANGE.

YES, IF WE COULD MAKE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING. THE ONE OF THE PARCELS THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT WE DID NOT GET THE SIGNED DEED UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT.

AND WHEN WE ATTEMPTED TO MOVE IT FORWARD FOR REPORTING PURPOSES,

[5.A.I. Financial Report - June 2020]

BECAUSE OF COVID-19, THAT PROCESS IS SLOWER BECAUSE IT'S DONE BY MAIL NOW. AND SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO WALK IT THROUGH THE WAY WE NORMALLY WOULD DO, AND THEREFORE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY FOR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.

SIMPLY, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD WITH THE INTRODUCTION TONIGHT SO THAT WE WOULD SAVE THE EXTRA TWO WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER.

THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE BEING SEPTEMBER 8 8TH PLEASE, THANK

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. BUC HER, IS IT OKAY TO AMEND THE INTRODUCTION TO THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 8TH?

>> P. BUCHER: ABSOLUTELY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED TO BE HEARD ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

MOVING ONTO THE FINANCIAL REPORT.

MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. BARTTER TO PROVIDE THE JUNE 2020 FINANCIAL REPORT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE LATER ON IN THE MEETING, A PRETTY ROBUST FINANCIAL CONVERSATION AS WELL. MR. BARTTER.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. WE'LL HAVE A ROBUST POWERPOINT DISCUSSION IN A FEW ITEMS. WE HAVE THE JUNE 2020 FINANCIAL REPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE NONE, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THE MATERIALS SENT OUT?

>> D. ROBINSON: I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. BARTTER, THE TO DATE AT THE OF JUNE, TOTAL INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS WERE .23% BELOW ESTIMATES, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> D. ROBINSON: THAT ALSO REFLECTS WHAT APPEAR TO B BE REALLY NOT FINAL NUMBERS, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL NET PROFIT CATEGORIES WHICH WILL SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE THIS MONTH THROUGH THE DELAYED FILING DATE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, DOWN 3.23% AGAINST ESTIMATES WHILE BEING DOWN 57% FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE AND 81% FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE AND INDIVIDUAL NET PROFIT RESPECTIVELY.

WE WOULD ANTICIPATE MY HYPOTHESIS IS THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THAT WILL COME BACK AUGUST/SEPTEMBER, AFTER THE

WEDNESDAY DUE DATE. >> D. ROBINSON: YEAH, I GUESS WHERE THE HEART OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE JUST YOUR REACTION AND ASSESSMENT THE 3.23, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THAT BE IMPROVED IN COMING MONTHS IS WELL BELOW THE PROJECTIONS EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

WHEN THE COVID VIRUS STRUCK WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A 10% ESTIMATION, IS THAT CORRECT? AND ARE YOU FEELING MORE OPTIMISTIC WE'RE NOT GOING THAT KEEP IN THE HOLE?

>> I AM, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE POWERPOINT YOU WILL SEE BEFORE TOO LONG. I DON'T WANT TO UIN SURPRISES.

[5.B.I. Franklin County Natural Hazard Mitigation Plan]

>> D. ROBINSON: I'LL CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT.

JUST GET READY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. KOWALCZYK MOVES THAT WE ADOPTED THE REPORT AS PRESENTED, SECONDED BY MR. SMITH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, LIKE SIGN. OKAY.

THE MOTION HAS PASSED. MOVING ONTO THE FRANKLIN COUNTY NATURAL HAZARDS MITIGATION PLAN, MR. GREESON.

>> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, EVERY SO OFTEN FRANKLIN COUNTY GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN. WE HAD NOT ADOPTED THE RECENT UPDATE. AND SO THE LAST UPDATE WAS 2018 I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ADOPTION IN 2019.

AND SO WE REALIZED WE HADN'T ADOPTED AND WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. HAS WORKED ON THIS AND TALKED TO THE STAFF AT THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ORGANIZATIONS THAT DEAL WITH THIS.

AND HAVE HIM OVER VIEW WHAT IT IS, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ADOPT IT AND WHAT IT INCLUDES ABOUT WORTHINGTON.

MR. WHITED? >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON, PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS A DOCUMENT FROM 2018 THAT THEY ASKED US TO APPROVE.

THE PURPOSE OF THE NATURAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN IT REALLY TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, ALL OVER THE COUNTY FOR ALL 42 MUNICIPALITIES. THEY GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS PERIOD OF TIME TO OUTLINE RISKS OF HISTORICALLY AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE ISSUES THAT MAY OCCUR. AND THEY OUTLINE LONG AND

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SHORT-TERM MITIGATIONS THAT COULD TAKE CARE OF THOSE OF LESSEN THE SEVERITY. THE PLAN IS FOR MULTIPLE THINGS, AWARENESS AND EDUCATION OF HAZARDS AND POTENTIALS FOR MITIGATION. TO IDENTIFIES AND PRIORITIZE MITIGATION PLANS. AND ATTEMPT TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE. AND IDENTIFY MITIGATION STEPS.

AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY ALLOW THESE COMMUNITIES TO QUALIFY FOR ASSISTANCE SHOULD A HAZARD OCCUR.

AS MR. GREESON MENTIONED, THE PREVIOUS STAFF THAT WORKED WITH THE CORE GROUP OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND HOMELAND SECURITY ON THIS DOCUMENT, I HAVE TALKED TO FRANKLIN COUNTY STAFF AND WORK TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS WE HAVE IN THAT PLAN AND HOW IT AFFECTS US AND WHAT WE NEED TO O TO FURTHER REFINE THAT AS WE GO TO THE NEXT PHASE.

AND IT ALLOWS US TO PURSUE MITIGATION IF WE HAVE A HAZARD.

HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT FUNDING FOR THIS MITIGATION PLANS THAT WE MAY WISH TO IMPLEMENT SEPARATELY.

THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE C.I.P. OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH. LIKE WE HAVE WITH GENERATORS AND OTHER THINGS IN THE PAST, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT. IT'S 288 PAGES.

I COULD GO THROUGH AND OUTLINE A BUNCH OF THINGS ON IT.

I GUESS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED FOR FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.

AND ALSO, TO HELP US TO IMPROVE OUR OWN RESILIENCY AND IDENTIFY THINGS WE CAN DO WITH OR WITHOUT FUNDING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THE PLANS, IT'S BASED ON RISK FACTOR, LIKELIHOOD, CIRCUMSTANCES, POTENTIAL FOR LAWS -- LOSS OF LIFE, INJURY, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, THE HARD HAZARDS ARE TORNADOES, FLOODING, DROUGHTS, INVASIVE SPECIES. RECENT EVENT IN MAY, THE FLOODING WAS SUBSTANTIAL BUT DID NOT QUALIFY FOR FUNDING BECAUSE A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION WAS NOT DECLARED FOR THAT.

I ILL STOP AND ASK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS BEFORE I GET TOO FAR

INTO THIS. >> R. DOROTHY: I DID GO THROUGH AND CLICK ON THE LINK AND WENT THROUGH ALL 288 PAGES ND SAW SOME ENTITIES, ULTIPLIALITY MUNICIPALITIES AND CITIES HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS IN THE LIST, AND WE HAD THREE, WITH EMERGENCY POWER AND EMERGENCY BUILDINGS.

I WAS WONDERING, THE FLOODINGS WERE ON THERE FROM 2007, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN THE C.I.P.

I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE OR I MEAN IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE C.I.P. DISCUSSION AT ANYTIME? AND WHAT'S THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A LIMITED SCOPE VERSUS THE WHOLE HUGE LAUNDRY LIST DOES NOT MATTER.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOMETHING AND ADOPT THE PLAN, WE'RE ALL GOOD? I'M CONFUSED HOW DETAILED T IS COMPARED TO OTHER

MUNICIPALITIES. >> IT WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT LEVEL OF DETAIL. I WAS NOT INVOLVED SO I'M NOT AWARE. THE STAFF THAT WAS INVOLVED IS NOT WITH US AT THIS TIME. WITH THE CITY.

THE GENERATORS WE HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR PLAN AND WE'RE JUST, THE SERVICE GENERATOR JUST DIED LAST YEAR AND WE REPLACED IT.

WE HAVE TO TYPICAL GENERATOR LIFE IS ABOUT 20 YEARS OR 1,500 HOURS. MOST OF OUR GENERATORS ARE ON THE CUSP OF THAT LIFE BUT NOT ON THE HOURS.

WE DO MAINTAIN IT MANUALLY AND DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.

I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THEM, PLEASE BUILDING POLICE BUILDING, MACK AND SERVICE CENTER. THE SERVICE ONE FAILED.

THE REST HAVE BETWEEN FOUR AND ONE THOUSAND HOURS LEFT ON USEFUL LIFE BUT CLOSE TO 20 YEARS EXCEPT FOR THE MACK.

AS FAR AS FLOODING, THE ISSUE, WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND MANAGING THAT TO A VERY GOOD CAPABILITY.

A LOT OF THE MITIGATION EFFORTS THEY TEND TO PUT FORWARD TO FLOODING IN THE TYPE OF SITUATION WE HAVE ARE RETROFITS, AND RETROFITS ARE HONESTLY RAISING ELEVATION OF HOMES, WHICH WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE IN OUR AREA.

FLOOD PROOFING HOME. IT ALLOWS, MAKE SURE THE UPPER

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LEVELS, THE HABITABLE LEVELS ARE FLOOD PROOF BUT WATER MAYBE CAPABLE OF ENTERING THE BASEMENTS OR UNINHABITED AREAS.

RELOCATION, TAKING A BUILDING AND MOVING IT.

TOTALLY SEALING THE HOME OR LEVIES OR FLOOD WALLS AROUND THE HOUSE. AND LASTLY, DEMOLITION.

LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT AND WHAT I GET FROM THE FOLKS AT FRANKLIN COUNTY, THE RETROFITTING WAS LOOKING AT AS A DEMOLITION TYPE OF APPROACH. AND CREATING GREEN SPACE ON THOSE STRUCTURES. BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

I NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION FROM THEM.

THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT TO ME.

>> R. DOROTHY: THE BIGGEST THING IS WE SIGN ON SO WE'RE ELIGIBLE?

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. WE NEED TO SIGN ON TO BE ELIGIBLE AND VERY THOUGHTFUL AND PROACTIVE AND IDENTIFYING AREAS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO GET FUNDING SHOULD WE HAVE A NATURAL DISASTER ONCE THE DECLARATION IS MADE YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE YOUR DETAILED PLAN HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPLY AND THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU TIME IF IT'S A COMPLICATED MITIGATED EFFORT.

WE NEEDED TO PREPARE PLANNING HOW WE MAY BEST WISH TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THESE HAZARDS SHOULD THEY OCCUR.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: DO WE HAVE PLANS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN PROCESS REGARDING THE FLOODING OR FUTURE FLOODING? I KNOW THERE WAS A PRETTY IG FLOOD SITUATION THAT IMPACTED A

LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. >> THIS MARCH AND MAY VENTS WERE THE -- HAVE NOT BEEN NOTHING HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED LIKE THAT SINCE 1964. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FLOODING IN THAT TIME, AND THERE WAS FLOODING AT THIS TIME.

A LOT OF WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THE FLOODING WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE ELEVATION IN THE OLENTANGY RIVER AND THE HOUSES LIE LOW AND ALONG THE BANK OF THE RIVER, THERE IS NOT A LOT WE CAN O EXCEPT FOR RETROFIT ISSUES THAT I UST MENTIONED. JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO BUILD A FULL-SCALE FLOOD WALL OR FULLY PREVENT FLOODING OCCURRING ALONG THE PROPERTIES IN A SEVERE SITUATION.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> D. ROBINSON: MR. WHITED? HOW ARE YOU DOING?

>> GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? >> D. ROBINSON: I'M CURIOUS, WHETHER THIS MITIGATION PLAN EXPLICITLY ACKNOWLEDGES AND USES LANGUAGE AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE OR IS IT STILL INDIRECT IN TERMS OF LIKE LOOKING AT EXTREME HEAT AND SO FORTH?

>> I HAVE NOT -- IT REFERENCES THOSE THINGS THAT COULD OCCUR.

IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE DEGREE OF ACKNOWLEDGING CLIMATE CHANGE.

BUT CERTAINLY, AND I HOPE TO BE A PART OF THE GROUP THAT DOES THE NEXT REVISION. IN THE BACKGROUND, THAT RAISES POTENTIAL FOR HIGH HEAT, THOSE THINGS, THAT MAKES IT MORE REAL.

WE HAD AN EVENTS RECENTLY THAT'S NOT BEEN EXPERIENCED FOR OVER 30 YEARS, MAKES IT EASY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THINGS ARE THERE. I ASSUME THAT WILL BE INCLUDED.

>> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE LATEST SCIENCE PERTAINING TO CLIMATE CHANGE IS CONSIDERED AND

INCORPORATED INTO THESE PLANS. >> YEAH.

AS THESE ARE MITIGATIVE, I WOULD AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE IN THE BACKGROUND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT WOULD RAISE THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS TO OCCUR.

AS A ESTIMATE WHAT POTENTIAL FLOODING CAN OCCUR FOR RAINFALL EVENTS OR DROUGHT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOU,

SIR. >> D. ROBINSON: I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: AND ANY

[5.B.II. 2021 Operating Budget & 2021-2025 Capital Improvements Plan]

OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT FOR ANOTHER WEEK.

THE RESOLUTION WILL BE INTRODUCED AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. TO SIGN ONTO THIS PLAN.

AGAIN, SIGNING ON DOESN'T MAKE US OBLIGATED TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT IT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE BETTER SHOULD

SOMETHING HAPPEN. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE 2021 OPERATING BUDGET AND 2021-2025 CAPITAL

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IMPROVEMENT PLAN, MR. GREESON. >> M. GREESON: PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IT HAS BEEN OUR PRACTICE IN RECENT YEARS TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU IN JULY, AS THE STAFF IS BEGINNING TO GEAR UP FOR OUR IN DEPTH BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT INITIALLY IS A LOT OF INTERNAL ANALYTICAL WORK, DISCUSSIONS WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT, REVIEW OF PROPOSALS AND ULTIMATELY, CRAFTING OF THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT GETS SUBMITTED IN LATE SEPTEMBER/EARLY OCTOBER.

WE DO THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TRENDS AND DEMANDS THAT WE SEE BEFORE WE START DEVELOPING IT. WE'RE DEVELOPING THE DRAFT DOCUMENTED. AND OF COURSE, THIS YEAR WITH COVID-19 AND THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, THTHERE IS A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. IT'S ALSO BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO GET SOME EARLY FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL.

IN ADVANCE F THE STAFF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO THAT WE GO IN WITH TO THE PROCESS WITH SOME GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND.

THEN WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.

AND GENERALLY, ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE TO BUDGET IN A TIME OF REVENUE REDUCTION. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. BARTTER AND THEN MS. STEWART.

MR. BARTTER IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FORECASTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. MS. STEWART IS GOING TO TOUCH ON THE C.I.P. AND I'LL WRAP UP WITH PROCESS

CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU, MR. GREESON.

PRESIDENT MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I WANTED TO TOUCH FIRST ON JUST A QUICK FINANCE UPDATE. WE HAVE COMPLETED THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR 2019.

THAT IS ONLINE AND AVAILABLE RIGHT OW.

THE PAPER OPY HAS JUST BEEN DONE AT THE PRINTER.

WE'LL HAVE IT SHORTLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE A BOUND COPY AS WELL OF THE 2019 CAFR. THE 2019 AUDIT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. UNMODIFIED WITH NO COMMENTS.

WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THE AWARD FOR 2019.

2018, WE RECEIVED THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND ANTICIPATE AGAIN FOR 2019'S FINANCIAL REPORT.

YOU'VE HEARD A LOT FROM ME THIS YEAR.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY AS WE CLOSED 2019 WITH A FUND BALANCE IN EXCESS OF 50%.

THE FUND BALANCE POLICY REQUIRES A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT THAT FUND BALANCE. WE HAD THE PANDEMIC AND MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS, INCLUDING A MAY 11TH DISCUSSION, WHICH SHOWED YOU MULTIPLE SCENARIOS PLANNING FOR THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE WITH INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS.

AND NOW WE HAVE NNUAL JULY BUDGET UPDATE.

I WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A RESET.

TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE MAJOR EVENTS THAT HAVE PUT A STRAIN, BOTH A STRAIN AND HAVE BENEFITED THE BUDGET.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, IS THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND THE RESULTING ECONOMIC SHUTDOWN. ALONG WITH THAT, I THREW THIS UNBECAUSE IT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS.

PEOPLE HAVE FIGURED OUT CORPORATIONS, BUSINESSES FIGURED OUT, A LOT OF THEM, HOW EMPLOYEES CAN WORK FROM HOME.

OF COURSE, WE'RE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON EMPLOYEE WITHHOLDING, THE WITHHOLDING CITY OF WORTHINGTON INCOME TAX FROM EMPLOYEES WHO COME INTO THE CITY TO WORK IF THEY ARE ORKING FROM HOME, THAT INCOME TAX WOULD GO AWAY.

THE VACANCY OF THE FORMER ANTHEM BUILDING, THEY VACATED IN THE MIDDLE OF 2018. THE DEMOLITION OF THE HOLIDAY INN SITE. NO HOTEL/MOTEL TAX OR DEVELOPMENT THERE CURRENTLY. STATE MANDATED UNION FORMITY CARRIED FORWARD IN 2016. HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS AND OVERTIME ARE PRESSURES AGAINST THE BUDGET.

-- UNIFORMITY. >> -- COUPLE OF THINGS THAT BENEFITED, REDEVELOPMENT OF WILSON BRIDGE.

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INCREASE IN GAS TAX REVENUE. WE'RE UP ABOUT $130,000 FROM THIS POINT LAST YEAR IN GAS TAX REVENUE THAT OF COURSE GOES TO THE STATE HIGHWAY FUNDS AND STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND, NOT THE GENERAL FUND. BUT IT IS A BENEFIT BECAUSE WE PAY FOR EMPLOYEES OUT OF HOSE TWO FUNDS.

BUREAU OF WORKERS COMP REFUNDS, WE RECEIVED ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE HAD A 2017 PROPERTY TAX REAPPRAISAL THAT INCREASED COLLECTIONS BY ABOUT 300 OR $235,000. AND A CARES ACT FUNDS WHICH SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING THIS WEEK. AND THEN TWO EVENTS THAT I THOUGHT NEEDED AT LEAST MENTIONED BUT THEY DIDN'T FIT NEATLY INTO ONE OF THE PRIOR TWO SLIDES, THE TRANSITION OF THE 911 CENTER, TO THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER WHICH HAS SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE AMOUNTS FOR 2020 AS WE TRANSITION ONE-TIME COSTS INVOLVED WITH THAT TRANSITION.

THERE ARE FUTURE SAVINGS. AND THEN THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY PROJECT HAS COMPLIANCE ISSUES, CASH FLOW AND MANAGING THE FUNDING FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES. ALTHOUGH, THAT IS COMING TO A CLOSE. AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF RECAP, LAST FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF BUDGET, WHAT ACTIONS HAVE WE TAKEN. WELL, WE HAVE UTILIZED FUND BALANCE AND FUNDS OTHER THAN THE GENERAL FUNDS BY REDUCING THE TRANSFER FOR POLICE PENSION FROM 2018 TO 2019.

WE WOULD NORMALLY TRANSFER THE 2600, DROPPED TO 325,200,000, THERE IS A SAVINGS OF AROUND 600,000, NOT MONEY NOT EXPECTED BUT NOT EXPECTED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND -- 300,000, AND $225,000. WE ALSO UTILIZED THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY FUND TO FUND THE COUNCIL STREAMING INITIATIVE.

WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED SERVICES. WE'VE DENIED A LOT OF BUDGET REQUESTS FROM DEPARTMENTS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, OVER 425,000 IN BUDGET REQUESTS HAVE NOT BEEN FUNDED IN BOTH 2019 AND 2020 BUDGETS. AND THEN ALSO, WE'VE REDUCED STAFFING. AS WE LOOK ADD IT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE ORGANIZATION HAS REALLY BEEN MADE OVER BUT JUST IN TERMS OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 LESS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THEN IN 2002.

HOLDING MULTIPLE POSITIONS OPEN IN 2020, WHICH IS GOING TO APPROPRIATIONS.ASE UNEXPENDED- THE MOST IMPACTFUL THING WE CAN DO. AND WE'VE FURLOUGHED MANY PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC.

WE'VE SOUGHT OUTSIDE FUNDING RESOURCES AND UTILIZED MORE DEBT FINANCING. THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS RECEIVED A GRANT, THE NORTHEAST GATEWAY FOR MULTIPLE SOURCES AND GOT $10 MILLION IN CAPITAL DEBT IN THE CURRENT C.I.P. REDUCED ENERGY AND OPERATING COSTS AND REDUCED HEALTH INSURANCE COST, THE ELIMINATION OF TRADITIONAL PLAN AND MOVE TO HIGH-DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST THAT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. YOU CAN SEE 2020 WE HAVE ALWAYS KIND OF KNOWN THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS GAP.

THAT IS LARGELY BECAUSE WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THE ANTHEM BUILDING BEING REFILLED. WE HAD ONE-TIME EXPENSES TO INNER REC. YOU MAY RECALL WE FORECAST WE WOULD SEE ABOUT A 5% INCOME TAX GROWTH IN 2021.

WE WERE HOPING THAT THE FORMER ANTHEM BUILDING WOULD BE FULL.

WE WOULD GET THE SPIKE IN 2021 PLUS THE SAVINGS FROM THE MOVE OF THE ENREC AND GAP WILL BE A MANAGEABLE APPROXIMATELY 13 -- $113,000. AND THAT GAP REMAINED MANAGEABLE IN THE OUTYEARS. THIS IS THE FUND ALANCE AS WE MOVE FROM, AS ADOPTED BUDGET TO 2024.

THE RED LINE IS THE 35% PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE THE ADOPTED POLICY TO STAY ABOVE IN THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE 2020 BUDGET DOCUMENT.

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WE STAY ABOVE THAT RED LINE THROUGH 2024.

THEN CAME THE CORONAVIRUS, COVID-19.

WE DISCUSSED IN MAY THREE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS WE WERE LOOKING AT. RITA INCOME TAX PROJECTIONS WHICH PROJECTED HAT WE WOULD BE DOWN 10% IN 2020.

WE HAD A BEST-CASE SCENARIO WHERE THE INCOME TAX WAS DOWN 5% AND WORST CASE DOWN 20%. ALL THOSE SCENARIOS ACCOUNTED FOR LOSSES IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION REVENUE.

20% IN THE FIRST TWO SCENARIOS AND UP TO 40% IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE 2020 THROUGH 2024 FIVE-YEAR FORECAST I'M LOOKING AT NOW AND ADJUSTED FOR COVID-19. WE'LL GET INTO WHAT GOES INTO HERE IN THE COUPLE NEXT SLIDES. WE STILL HAVE THE BIG GAP IN 2020. ALTHOUGH IT HAS INCREASED VEN WITH HOW OLDING FIVE OR SIX POSITIONS OPEN AND HOPING TO GET TO 2 MILLION IN UNEXPENDED APPROPRIATIONS TO FIX THE GAP INTUITS. THE GAP IS INCREASED FROM 113,000 IN 2021 TO ABOUT 1.1 MILLION.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF INCOME TAX.

AND THIS WOULD BE WITH A RETURN TO PARKS AND RECREATION FUNDING TO 2019 LEVELS IN 2021. AND THEN THAT CONTINUES WITH ABOUT A $1 MILLION GAP IN ALL OF THE OUTYEARS.

IF WE TALK ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THIS FIVE-YEAR FORECAST, INCOME TAX WE FINISHED 2029, 1.6 MILLION, DOWN 6% FROM 2019 LEVELS, THAT WOULD BE DOWN ABOUT 5% FROM THE 2020 ESTIMATE.

AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT, I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WILL SEE SOME BOUNCE BACK IN NET PROFIT AND INDIVIDUAL COLLECTIONS COME SEPTEMBER AND AUGUST.

I DON'T THINK WE MAKEUP -- I DON'T THINK WE GET TO POSITIVE BUT I DON'T THINK WHERE ANYWHERE NEAR DOWN 10%, I THINK WE'LL END ABOUT AROUND 5.5 TO 6% OR 4.5 FOR ESTIMATES.

AND THEN OUR CURRENT FORECAST HAS US RECOVERING THAT IN 2021 OR MOST OF IT IN 2021. AND BY 2022, WE'RE ABOVE 2019 COLLECTION LEVELS. FRANKLY, THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO. AND ALREADY, I THINK MAYBE THIS HAS GOTTEN TO BE TOO OPTIMISTIC. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH FOR RIGHT NOW. THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE CONTINUE TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, WE FINISHED 2020, 16% FROM 2019.

IT WOULD TAKE A VERY, VERY, VERY STRONG SECOND HALF FOR THAT TO OCCUR. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COVID-19 SCENARIO IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO RECOVER ALL THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING FROM NOW.

IN 2021, WE RETURN TO 2019 LEVELS OF COLLECTION FOR MEMBERSHIP FEES, ROGRAMMING FEES, ET CETERA.

ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, OUR 2020 UNEXPENDED APPROACHERATIONS NEEDS TO EXCEED 2 MILLION IN THIS FORECAST.

-- APPROPRIATIONS. THAT'S ABOUT 6%.

AS WE CONTINUE TO HOLD POSITIONS OPEN, THAT IS THE BIGGEST WAY WE CAN IMPACT THAT. AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET TO THAT. AND THEN THESE ARE 2021 EXPENDITURES AS WE'RE DEVELOPED WITH THE 2021 BUDGET.

WE -- 2020. THIS IS EXPENDITURES AS WE FORECAST WITH THE 2020 BUDGET, INCLUDING HEALTH INSURANCE ITH 8% INCREASE AND 27TH PAY IN 2021.

WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR IT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE FUND BALANCE.

AND UPDATED FORECAST WITH COVID-19 ADJUSTED.

IN THIS FORECAST WITH THE SCENARIO JUST WENT OVER, WE GET TO ABOUT THAT 5% LEVEL. ACTUALLY, WE DIP O 33% OF PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES AS A FUND BALANCE BY THE END OF 2021.

YOU CAN SO WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A AY TO CHANGE THE TREND.

IT NEEDS TO KICK IT UP AND END UP AT THE 2024 AROUND 24%.

WITH HAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. STEWART, WHO WILL COVER THE

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH THE BUTTON

ON THE SLIDES. >> THANKS, SCOTT.

SWITCHING TO LOOK AT THE CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS AS WE START THINKING ABOUT THE 2021-2025 C.I.P.

I WANT TO REVISIT WHERE WE WERE AT WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CURRENT C.I.P., THE 2 2029 -- 2020-2024. THE CAPITAL PLAN WAS VERY FINANCIALLY CONSTRAINED AT THAT TIME.

INCOME TAXES WERE PROJECTED TO BE FLAT FOR THE C.I.P. CHANGE GOING FROM 2019 TO 2020. AND SINCE INCOME TAXES IS BY AND LARGE THE PREDOMINANT FUNDING SOURCE AND ESSENTIAL ABOUT THE ONLY FUNDING SOURCE EXCEPT WHEN WE ISSUE BONDS AND HAVE DEBT PROCEEDS TO FUND DEBT PROJECTS WE HAVE TO PAY BACK.

IN ORDER TO GET THE NUMBERS TO ACCEPTABLE LEVEL WE DELAYED SEVERAL PROJECTS AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES THAT STAFF WERE SUGGESTING NEEDED TO OCCUR. WE MOVED SEVERAL ITEMS THAT ORIGINALLY WERE PLANNED TO BE FUNDED FROM CASH AND SHIFTED TO BONDING. INCREASING THE DEBT PLAN FOR THE CITY TO TAKE ON. AND EVEN SO, WITH THESE MOVES WE HAD A DEFICIT IN THE 2020 AND 2021 SO WE WERE NEEDING TO USE FUND BALANCE THAT WAS EXISTING IN THE CAPITAL FUND.

AND OUR FUND BALANCE AMOUNT IN THAT CAPITAL FUND WAS CONTINUING TO STAY BELOW THE TRADITIONAL TARGET THAT THE CITY UTILIZED.

SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE FELT THE IMPACTS OF COVID AND THE CORONAVIRUS. AND SO HIS YEAR IN 2020, WE'VE NEEDED TO TAKE SEVERAL STEPS TO PRESERVE CASH AND TO DELAY SOME EXPENSES. ON TOP OF THOSE STEPS THAT WE HAD ALREADY HAD TO TAKE TO CURRENT THE NUMBERS IN THE CURRENT C.I.P., WE DELAYED INTO 2021, THE RESURFACING OF THE POOLS OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER, REPLACEMENT OF THE SOUTH END DOOR, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT SELBY PARK. WE DEPLAYED THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SELF CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS AND DELAYED PLANNED RENOVATIONS FOR MCCORD PARK. WE HAD REDUCTIONS IN ROJECTS AND EQUIPMENT MOVING FORWARD AS WE TRIED TO INCORPORATE LOWER REVENUE PROJECTIONS IN THE C.I.P.

MOVING ONTO OVERALL EXPENDITURE DEMANDS.

MOST OF OUR DEMANDS ARE FOR MAINTENANCE F EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOU CAN SEE MANY ON THE SLIDE IN TERMS OF SANITARY SEWER LINES AND WATERLINES AND THE STATE OF OUR CURRENT CITY BUILDINGS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL INTEREST AND PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DESIGN FOR RENOVATIONS TO MCCORD PARK, WHICH TIES BACK TO THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN.

THE INVESTMENTS RECOMMENDED AS PART OF THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN. WE HAVE INVESTMENTS FOR WANTING TO IMPLEMENT ALONG WILSON BRIDGE ROAD TO MAINTAIN PRIMARY ECONOMIC CORRIDOR FOR US. THE OOLS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE FACING A LOT OF INVESTMENTS THEY NEED.

AND SO WAYS TO LOOK AT HOW SWIM INC.'S OPPOSITIONS IN THAT FACILITY CAN BE -- OPERATIONS -- CAN BE ADDRESSED.

WE JOIN WITH PARTNERS. AND A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT CERTIFY. AS COUNCIL KNOWS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER PARTNERS IN THAT AREA, CITY OF COLUMBUS, PERRY TOWNSHIP, ODOT, AND FRANKLIN COUNTY TO TRY TO PURSUE FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT LIND WORTH ROAD. LINWORTH ROAD.

THIS SLIDE THOSE THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE INCOME TAX REVENUE IN THE C.I.P. IT TAKES A DIP FROM 2019 TO 2020, 2021 SHOWS THE SAME ASSOCIATED INCREASE THAT MR. BARTTER JUST DESCRIBED ON THE OPERATING BUDGET SIDE.

HOWEVER, WE DON'T REACH 2019 LEVELS IN 2021.

WE DON'T GET PAST 2019 INCOME TAX LEVELS UNTIL WE GET TO 2022.

BOTTOM LINE, WE EXPECT THE C.I.P. TO BE VERY FINANCIALLY CONSTRAINED. I BELIEVE MR. GREESON IS GOING

TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE. >> M. GREESON: YEAH.

WE CAN STOP HERE AND TALK ABOUT QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT PROCESS AND THEN ANY OF US ARE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL. I THINK AS WE GO INTO THIS PROCESS FOR PREPARING THE 2021 BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO ASK

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DEPARTMENTS TO CERTAINLY LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER REDUCTIONS. THAT MAYBE HOLDING POSITIONS VACANT OR ELIMINATING POSITIONS OR STREAMLINING THINGS.

THIS IS OING TO GET HARDER TO DO AS WE REFLECTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'RE A SMALLER ORGANIZATION THAN EVEN 18 YEARS AGO. WHICH IS THE TIME PERIOD THAT I BELIEVE MR. BARTTER PICKED TO CAPTURE THE NUMBERS.

AND AND YET, I BELIEVE WE'RE PROBABLY HAVEN'T REDUCED MANY SERVICES AT ALL EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE LESS TAFF DOING THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO USE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO INFORM OUR BUDGET AND C.I.P. DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE'RE GOING TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESS. AND THE SURVEY WORK THEY ARE DOING, THE SORE ANALYSIS, THE INPUT THEY ARE GETTING FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. YOU WILL RECALL WE DID A PARKS AND RECREATION COST RECOVERY ANALYSIS.

WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER PLANS, PARTICULARLY ONTO INFORM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND IN PARTICULAR, LOOK AT SOME OF OUR WATER/SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE STUDIES.

BECAUSE WITH THE CONSTRAINED C.I.P. WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY PLACE THE MOST FOCUS ON MAINTAINING EXISTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. NEXT SLIDE, SCOTT.

IN TERMS OF INFORMING OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, WE THINK THERE ARE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE NEED TO EMPLOY THIS YEAR THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EMPLOY THIS YEAR AND GIVE CONSIDERATION TO. ONE, THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY. SO THERE IS SURVEY WORK FOR EACH OF OUR PLANS. THERE IS SURVEY WORK BEING DONE BY THE VISIONING COMMITTEE THAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT ONE OF THOSE JUNCTURES WHERE IT MAY BE EXTRA VALUABLE, IF YOU WILL, IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS TO O SOME STRATEGICALLY VALID OR CAPTURE STATISTICALLY VALID INFO, INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS PRIORITIZE AND IN TERMS OF OUR SERVICES.

THAT COULD INFORM OR HELP US INFORM ANY EVALUATION OF SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE REDUCED. AND THEN, POTENTIALLY EVALUATE, INFORM A EVALUATION OF REVENUE ENHANCEMENT STRATEGIES.

WHAT YOU OFTEN FIND IS THAT COMMUNITIES VALUE AND FIND THE SERVICES THAT CITIES PROVIDE DESIRABLE BUT SOMETIMES HEY PREFER OR PRIORITIZE SOME OVER OTHERS.

AND IN MANY INSTANCES, THEY ARE SOMETIMES WILLING TO PAY MORE.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE COVID-19 GLOBAL PANDEMIC WILL AFFECT REVENUE. BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE PREPARED WITH REALLY VALID COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT SERVICE REDUCTIONS OR PURSUE REVENUE ENHANCEMENT STRATEGIES. WE'RE GOING TO THE POINTS WE MAY NEED CONSIDER REVENUE ENHANCEMENT STRATEGIES.

I HIGHLIGHTED THAT LAST YEAR. HERE ARE A FEW OF THE AREAS WHERE, THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE HIGHER EMPLOY IN ORDER TO HELP FUND SERVICES. AND I'M NOT FOCUSING ON ANY ONE IN PARTICULAR, JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ONES UP FOR CONVERSATION IF WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE NEED TO DO THAT. WE ALSO NEED TO -- AS WE LOOK AT OUR FINANCES AND GO INTO BUDGET PROCESS AND START TO DEVELOP OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, IF THOSE AFFECT SERVICES OR MOVE US TOWARDS INCREASES IN FEES OR TAXES, THEN CERTAINLY WE NEED TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY N SOME ADDITIONAL WAYS.

SO THERE MAY ADDITIONAL CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT EFFORTS AS WE FURTHER DEVELOP THIS. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE POTENTIAL SCHEDULE OR THE PROCESS FOR APPROVAL.

WE'LL START UNDERTAKING THE EARLY DEVELOPMENT OF THESE MATERIALS SOON. AND WE'LL REALLY FINALIZE THAT

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IN SEPTEMBER FOR DISTRIBUTION TO COUNCIL IN EARLY OCTOBER.

THAT GIVES A SOLID THREE MONTHS FOR REVIEW OF THE FORECAST, PRESENTATION OF THE C.I.P., HEARING FROM ANY GROUPS OR ORGANIZATIONS AND DEPARTMENTS YOU WANT TO, AND HEALTHY AMOUNT OF TIME FOR YOUR DEBATE OF OUR PROPOSALS.

THIS IS THE PROCESS WE ARE LOOKING AT.

AND WE WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE TREND LINES FOR, PRESENTED BY MR. BARTTER, MS. STEWART, AND CERTAINLY THE PROCESS I'VE OVERVIEWED.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SURE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH QUESTIONS.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I CAN START. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

SOME EASY, SOME NOT SO EASY. THE FIRST IS REGARDING THE FIVE TO SIX OPEN POSITIONS. WHERE ARE THOSE LOCATED?

>> M. GREESON: YEAH, WE HAVE TWO IN PARKS, ONE IN SERVICE, ONE IN PLANNING AND BUILDING, ONE IN SERVICE AND ONE IN POLICE.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: DO YOU ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ANY OTHER ONES, POTENTIALLY, THAT BECOME OPEN AS A RESULT OF ATTRITION OR

RETIREMENT? >> M. GREESON: OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T THINK SO. MR. BARTTER, MS. STEWART, WOULD

YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? >> I'M ONLY AWARE OF ONE POTENTIAL. BUT NO.

THAT WOULD BE IT. MAYBE ONE.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, HAS THE CITY SEEN ANY SAVINGS AS A RESULT OF THE CHANGE IN OPERATIONS FROM COVID-19? IN SOME AREAS, SOME COMPANIES OR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE NOT INCURRED THE EXPENSES THAT THEY TYPICALLY INCUR FOR VARIOUS REASONS. JUST CURIOUS, THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT

FOR US. >> NO.

>> M. GREESON: NO. -- I MEAN, WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT OPERATION. SO --

>> I CAN EXPAND. COUNCIL HAS APPROPRIATED I THINK OVER $600,000 IN APPROPRIATIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND IN 2020.

WE HAD ADDITIONALLY APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR REFUNDS IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION AND CONTINUE TO PAY FURLOUGHED EMPLOYEES.

WE APPROPRIATED FOR ELECTRIC RELATED TO THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. THERE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

WE HAD 135 -- $155,000 FOR THE PIPE BREAK IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER. NO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN REDUCTION

IN EXPENSES. >> B. KOWALCZYK: THEY OFFSET BECAUSE WE WEREN'T USING THE PARKS FOR A WHILE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

>> IT WOULD BE NEGLIGIBLE. THERE MAY BE BALLFIELD SAVINGS AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ATTENDED TO FOR A MONTH BUT IT'S NEGLIGIBLE IN COMPARISON TO EXPENSES.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT PROJECTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE CONSERVATIVE BUT IN A GOOD WAY. THINKING ABOUT ARE THERE EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED THAT COULD CHANGE THOSE PROJECTIONS? ANYTHING YOU THINK OF, ME NOT BEING A FINANCE PERSON, WHAT RE WE LOOKING FOR TO SPUR THE ECONOMY OR ASIDE FROM COVID, OBVIOUSLY --...

>> REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SMALL MIGHT CHANGE THE REFILLING OF THE ANTHEM BUILDING POTENTIALLY. I WORKED THAT NTO FUTURE GROWTH. SOME MAJOR EMPLOYER LEAVING WOULD IMPACT IT THE OTHER WAY. BUT THOSE WOULD BE THE PRIMARY

INFLUENCES. >> B. KOWALCZYK: AND THEN JUST INDULGE ME WITH TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

IN TERMS OF THE SURVEYING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION OR COMMENT. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WE'RE DOING THE VISIONING PROCESS ALREADY AND ASKING FOR INPUT ON PRIORITIES. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DEVOTE MORE RESOURCES. WE'VE ALREADY DEVOTED RESOURCES TO THAT PROCESS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DEVOTE MORE RESOURCES TO A SURVEY. AND I AM -- I HINK WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRST.

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LIKE HOW CRITICAL IS IT THAT WE ACTUALLY DO A SURVEY AND COMMIT MORE CITY RESOURCES TO IT? WHAT WOULD THOSE RESOURCES BE?

>> >> M. GREESON: ROBYN R SCOTT, PLEASE JUMP IN IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

WE'RE WRESTLING WITH THIS, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW, THE SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT DOES HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN IT THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR BUDGETING IS STILL SELF-SELECT.

YOU ARE CHOOSING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SURVEY.

AND IT'S NOT CLOSED YET. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE A SENSE, ROBYN MAY HAVE A BETTER SENSE, OF ITS DEMOGRAPHIC, GEOGRAPHIC REACH. SO MAYBE IT HELPS ANSWER THE QUESTION. BUT WHAT WE GET A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT AS WE START TO THINK ABOUT REALLY SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SERVICE LEVELS OR SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ASKING FOR MORE REVENUE OR IMPLEMENTING SOME NEW REVENUE STRATEGY IS DO WE -- ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY? AND ARE WE ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED ABOUT WHAT SERVICES THEY PLACE THE GREATEST PRIORITY ON AND WHETHER THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT REDUCTIONS OR PAY MORE.

AND SO, I THINK THE VISIONING PROCESS SURVEY IS GOOD.

IT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR. AND IT'S SELF-SELECT.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME OF THESE BIG-BUDGET DECISIONS IN THE NEXT, THIS FALL AND EVEN INTO 2021, WHETHER WE WANT SOMETHING MORE STATISTICALLY

RELIABLE. >> B. KOWALCZYK: AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE, WEIGHING THE COST OF DOING SUCH A SURVEY WITH THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THAT INPUT AND WHETHER THAT INPUT IS REALLY GOING TO BE INFORMATIVE FOR US. MY LAST COMMENT IS JUST YOU HAD MENTIONED CITIZEN REVIEW OF ANYTHING WE PUT OGETHER.

AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME SUGGESTION TO PUT TOGETHER A CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. IT SEEMS IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THIS KIND OF SCENARIO IF NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE. I STILL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ADVISORY GROUP THAT COULD NOT ONLY INFORM THE PUBLIC AS WE'RE MAKING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT WE -- DECISIONS, BUT ALSO TO GET THAT INPUT FROM THEM IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING IN BUDGETING. SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

AND I'M DONE. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. I HAD QUESTION.

AND I WAS WONDERING, I KNOW THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME. AND I'VE HEARD THERE BEING SOME PROPOSALS OF SHIFTING OF THE INCOME TAX COLLECTION BASED ON WHERE EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING FROM.

IS ANYTHING LIKE THAT -- WHERE IS THE STATUS ON THAT? DO WE HAVE ANY FAR-FETCHED CLUE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT

WORTHINGTON? >> TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST, NO. IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THE IMPACT SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON WOULD BE. WHEN GOVERNOR MIKE DEWINE SIGNED HIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK THE LEGISLATION PASSED THE SWEEPING LEGISLATION THAT TALKED ABOUT WAIVING TESTING FOR STUDENTS, ET CETERA, A CLAUSE WAS THROWN IN THERE SO DURING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, ANY WITHHOLDING SHOULD BE CONTINUED AT THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BEING WITHHELD.

IF YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE AT WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES WHO NOW WORKS FROM HOME, THE EMPLOYEE WITHHOLDING IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONTINUED TO BE WITHHELD TO THE CITY OF WORTHINGTON.

RECENTLY, THE BUCKEYE INSTITUTE FILED SUITE AGAINST THE CITY OF COLUMBUS CHALLENGING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY.

PARTICULAR CLAUSE, I DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME MAYBE.

I THINK MORE GLOBALLY AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUSINESSES HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BE EFFECTIVE WITH PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME. AND THAT MAY CAUSE THEM TO NOT BE AS INTERESTED IN PUTTING 250 OR 300 EMPLOYEES IN A SINGULAR

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BUILDING ON HIGH STREET OR WHEREVER THE CASE MAYBE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE COGNIZANT OF, THE NATIONAL LEGISLATION FILED BY THE BUCKEYE INSTITUTE IS GOING TO TAKE YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL HAVE RESOLUTION ON THAT. WE HAD THE SUPREME COURT HEARING ON CENTRALIZED COLLECTIONS TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> R. DOROTHY: I HAVE COMMENTS.

BONNIE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT WORK FROM HOME.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO ASK TOO.

AND I THINK SOMETHING WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT I THINK MR. MEYERS BROUGHT IT UP TO BEGIN WITH A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

SO SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE AWARE OF.

WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR INCOME TAX.

AND THEN, COMMENT ABOUT THE STATISTICALLY VALID INPUT FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT FUNDING. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD SOME ISSUES JUST AS A COUNCILMEMBER HAVING INPUT OF WHAT WE SPEND MONEY ON. I THINK ONE TIME I GOT TO ET AN EXTRA 5 OR $10,000 TO A TREE PLANTING FUND.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE EARLY PROCESS IS STAFF DRIVEN.

AN INPUT COMMITTEE -- I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD RATHER TRY TO GET AS MUCH INPUT FROM A STATISTICALLY VALID INPUT GAUGE ON WHAT WE DO WITH OUR MONEY AND BUDGET THAN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE IS

MY COMMENT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MR. GREESON OR MR. BARTTER, IT WOULD SEEM IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS, ARE YOU OF THE BELIEF AS SOME POINT OUR BUDGET ISSUES MAY IMPACT CORE SERVICES TO THE POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE REVENUE? DO YOU FOLLOW MY QUESTION?

>> M. GREESON: YEAH, I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: BUT... WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE. AND I'M CERTAIN YOU ARE FACING IT TOO. COVID AND WORK FROM HOME AND EVERYTHING GOING ON IS JUST SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M CURIOUS, MAYBE MR. BARTTER, YOU COULD ANSWER THIS. IT SEEMS AS IF OUR INCOME TAX AT LEAST CURRENTLY, ISN'T AS BAD AS WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OR WHAT WE

WERE AFRAID OF. >> T'S FOR SURE NOT.

I THINK IT'S VERY ASTUTE THAT OBSERVATION, IT'S TRUE.

IF YOU LOOK AT JUST JUNE WITHHOLDING, OUR JUNE WAS UP 5%, WHICH IS ALMOST SHOCKING TO ME. HOW IS JUNE WITHHOLDING UP 5%? I LOOKED AT SOME REPORTS AND OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS PAYROLL HAVE NOT BEEN DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED IF AT ALL RIGHT NOW.

I THINK IF YOU KIND OF PLAY IT OUT, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. THE SHUT DOWN CERTAINLY AFFECTS RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. BUT THEIR WAGES ARE NOT A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF OUR INCOME TAX COLLECTION.

SO THOSE ARE HE EMPLOYEES WHOSE JOBS IMMEDIATELY WENT AWAY AND WENT ON UNEMPLOYMENT AND WE STOP RECEIVED THE INCOME TAX ON.

IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A HIT TO NOT HAVE EMPLOYEES MAKING EIGHT OR 10 OR $12 AN HOUR. ENGINEERS OR DOCTORS OR CPA'S OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAYBE. THEY DIDN'T STOP PAYING EMPLOYEES, THEY MAY HAVE SENT THEM TO WORK FROM HOME BUT THEY ARE CONTINUING, CERTAINLY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES. WE'RE NOT SEEING AS RITA PROJECTED, 10% DROP OR OUR WORST-CASE SCENARIO, 20%.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP, OBVIOUSLY, BELOW 5 OR 5.5% BELOW 2019. IF YOU THINK ABOUT INDIVIDUAL AND NET PROFIT TAXES, WHAT THOSE ARE ARE EITHER TAXES FROM 2019'S FILINGS OR ESTIMATES FOR 2021 BEING PAID IN 2020 ESTIMATES FOR 2020 BEING PAID IN 2021. THE ESTIMATES WILL PROBABLY BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. PEOPLE WILL NOT ESTIMATE TO PAY AS MUCH IN 2 2021 -- 2020 AS OTHERWISE.

IT'S A LONG-WINDED ANSWER TO SAY, YES, WE'RE IN A A LITTLE BIT POSITION THAN THE WORST-CASE OR MIDDLE OF THE ROAD

PROJECTIONS. >> M. GREESON: I THINK THE

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CHALLENGE, AND MR. BARTTER, WEIGH IN ON THIS.

IT'S A RELATIVELY TIGHT BUDGET ALREADY.

MS. STEWART TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR TO THE CAPITAL PLAN. AND WE HAVE ALREADY PROJECTED WE NEEDED TO FUND BALANCE AND HAVE BEEN DENYING A SIGNIFICANT REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENTS IN RECENT YEARS.

AND SO I HINK IT'S INCREASINGLY CHALLENGING TO TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE BUDGET , FOR INSTANCE, IN THE GENERAL FUNDS WITHOUT STARTING TO IMPACT SOME OF THE SERVICES.

BECAUSE WE'VE REORGANIZED EVERY DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE ALREADY QUITE A BIT SMALLER THAN A DECADE AGO.

FOR ANYBODY THAT MAYBE LISTENING, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 150 EMPLOYEES, SCOTT? AND SO, YEAH, FULL TIME.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS FIVE OR SIX VACANT MAKES AN IMPACT.

AND YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO SOME OF THE DIALOGUE ABOUT THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY RICH, EXPECTATIONS OR DESIRES FOR US TO DO A LOT MORE, PARTICULARLY IN THE CAPITAL AREA TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE HIGH.

THERE IS LOTS OF IDEAS OF WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE IT IN THE COMMUNITY BOTH COMING OUT OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL AS EMBEDDED IN THE EXISTING PLANS. I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS DO WE WANT TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS? WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO DO THAT? IF WE HAVE O -- IF THE DESIRE IS TO EAT THE LOSS, WHAT DISEASN OPERATIONS AND DO WE HAVE TO MODIFY SERVICE LEVELS IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO MODIFY, HOW MUCH REVENUE DO WE NEED? IF WE WANT TO INVEST IN THE ASPIRATIONAL, HOW MUCH REVENUE DO WE NEED?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> D. ROBINSON: MR. GREESON, QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHEDULE

PROCESS. >> M. GREESON: YEAH.

>> D. ROBINSON: I REMEMBER, I THINK LAST YEAR, GETTING THE PROTO BUDGET IN JULY, AM I MISTAKEN?

>> M. GREESON: NO, WE TYPICALLY RELEASE T -- NO, WE START IT NOW THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT WE DON'T TYPICALLY RELEASE THE BUDGET UNTIL EARLY OCTOBER. THE CHARTER REQUIRES IT BE RELEASED 60 DAY PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE TRY FOR 90 DAYS. >> D. ROBINSON: WE DIDN'T SEE

THE FIRST VERSION UNTIL OCTOBER? >> M. GREESON: YEAH, THE FIRST PRINTED VERSION WE SPENT TIME IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER TALKING ABOUT THE FORECAST AND THE ISSUES BUT NOT ACTUALLY THE COMPLETE

DOCUMENT WITH MY BUDGET MESSAGE. >> D. ROBINSON: RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYONE

ELSE? >> D. SMITH: FOLLOWING UP ON MST ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD CALL IT A COMMITTEE, I WOULD CALL IT A GROUP OF CITIZENS INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BUDGET AND I WHERE OUR EXPENSES ARE GOING AND WHERE REVENUE IS COMING FROM BE MORE EDUCATED AND WHAT I'VE SEEN FOR THE PAST EW YEARS WHEN THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IS A GROUP OF DEDICATED CITIZENS WHO ARE JUST INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE. AND MAYBE HELPING OUT IF THEY CAN PROVIDE INSIGHTS THAT MAYBE STAFF HAS BEEN OO CLOSE TO THE BUDGET. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN THAT CONCEPT. AND MAYBE THIS YEAR HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM US ALREADY. IF THERE IS A WAY TO ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SUMMER AND THE BUDGET PROCESS, I WOULD BE ALL FOR THAT.

>> M. GREESON: OKAY. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WHAT KIND OF STAFF TIME WOULD IT TAKE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE THAT?

>> M. GREESON: I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT YOU WOULD WANT ITS MISSION TO BE. AND TO THE DEGREE, YOU KNOW, HOSTING A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE WE KIND OF DIVE A LITTLE

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DEEPER THAN TONIGHT WITH INTERESTED CITIZENS WHO SIGN UP TO DO THAT, THAT'S ONE THING. I THINK TASKING A GROUP TO PLAY A SIGNIFICANT OR SUBSTANTIVE ROLE IN THE -- IN SOME OF THE POLICY FRAMING THAT IS A DIFFERENT, I THINK A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF TASKS. IT DEPENDS.

IT'S MY LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU

WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OTHER

QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? >> M. GREESON: I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE'RE WILLING TO DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

BUT THE ONE THING WE FELT WAS OF VALUE WITH THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY IS YOU GET AWAY FROM SELF SELECTED AND LISTENING TO ONLY THE VOICES THAT CARE TO SHOW UP IN A WEIRD WORLD RIGHT NOW. AND ARE COMFORTABLE IN THIS KIND OF FORMAT AND THAT YOU CAPTURE SOME BROADER BASE OF OPINION THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REPLY -- RELY ON AS BEING THE FEELINGS OF THE PUBLIC. IT'S STRIKING THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE TYPICAL PUBLIC PROCESS AS WE DO WHERE WE INVITE PEOPLE TO THE TABLE AND ALLOW INFLUENCE OF SMALLER NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AND BALANCING THAT WITH STATISTIC VALID RESEARCH THAT MIGHT BE REFLECT A BROADER WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. >> D. ROBINSON: MADAM PRESIDENT,

MAY I COMMENT? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YES,

SIR. >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU.

MR. GREESON, I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOUR USE THE LANGUAGE, STATISTICALLY VALID AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE POSSIBLE MISINTERPRETATION OF LOOKING AT SELF-SELECTING GROUPS.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT. REGARDING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I TOO HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA FROM THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT MENTIONED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

I WOULD URGE YOU, STAFF AND COUNCIL TO THINK OF IT AS AT LEAST LET US GET STARTED THIS YEAR.

AND MAYBE WITH THE MINIMALIST DESCRIPTION YOU PROVIDED ABOUT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WOULD ENABLE THE PROCESS TO BEGIN.

AND WE WOULD LEARN PROBABLY THROUGH THAT ITSELF.

AND THEN PERHAPS DOWN THE ROAD WE COULD TAKE A MORE EXTENSIVE STEP. I WOULD SAY LET'S GET STARTED AT LEAST WITH THE MINIMALIST OUTLINE CONCEPT OF THAT GROUP.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS?

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: WHAT WAS THAT MINIMALIST OUTLINE? I HEARD MAKING PRESENTATIONS. WHAT MINIMALIST OUTLINE ARE YOU

REFERRING TO, MR. ROBINSON? >> D. ROBINSON: WELL, MR. GREESON CAN PROBABLY REPEAT IT BETTER THAN I.

WHAT I RECALL WAS COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHERE THEY DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN WE DID TONIGHT.

PERHAPS GET SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM THE GROUP.

BUT I WOULD SAY, NOT SOMETHING REQUIRING ONGOING, EXTENSIVE COLLABORATION THROUGH ENTIRE PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC BUT MORE SUPERFICIAL ONE. MR. GREESON, YOU COULD PROBABLY DESCRIBE IT BETTER THAN I JUST DID.

>> M. GREESON: YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

AND MR. BARTTER CAN JUMP ON AND MS. STEWART.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH A -- I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE USEFUL AND MAYBE INSTRUCTIVE IN TERMS OF EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, IS YOU SHARE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST TRENDS AND BUDGETARY PRESSURES, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT. AND THEN HAVE PEOPLE ASK CRITICAL QUESTIONS. AND INEVITABLY THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THINKING OF THINGS WE MISSED OR MAKE US THINK WITH MORE CLARITY. SO YOU COULD CREATE A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

AS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. A LOT OF THIS IS BOTTOMS UP.

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WHERE THE STAFF THAT ARE ACTUALLY RUN THE PROGRAMS ARE INFORMING DIRECTORS ABOUT THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS OF THOSE PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT ALL MR. BARTTER AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT COOKING IT UP.

>> IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF IT WAS.

OR MS. STEWART IF THEY HAVE THOUGHTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

>> WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN WITH THIS? THIS GROUP, REVIEWING THE PROPOSED BUDGET PRIOR TO IT COMING DO COUNCIL? SO THAT WOULD PUT, USUALLY WE DON'T... GET THAT DONE UNTIL ABOUT MAYBE AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER 11TH OR SO.

SO A TIME 14 - TIMEFRAME BETWEEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND

THE BUDGET COMING TO COUNCIL? >> D. SMITH: MY INITIAL INSTINCTS EARLY ON WERE THEY WOULD BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, IF NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION FROM THE BEGINNING, AT LEAST A FLY ON THE WALL THROUGHOUT YOUR GUYS' CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY, MAYBE THEY ARE NOT ENGAGING AT HAT POINT BUT AS SOME POINT OPENING UP O QUESTIONS.

I THINK MR. GREESON HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH THAT ONE.

I THINK IF YOU GET QUESTIONS FROM A ANDFUL OR MULTIPLE HANDFULS OF RESIDENTS, YOU WILL GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT I THINK PRETTY QUICKLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY BUDGET AND WHAT THAT BUDGET PROVIDES.

SEE AS FAR AS TIMEFRAME, I WOULD SAY QUITE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT TYPE OF A SMALLER GROUP, AND WHAT I HEARD MR. GREESON'S PROPOSAL OR SUGGESTION WAS IS THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST S THAT WE TRY AND DO MORE OUTREACH ND ENGAGEMENT AS TO HOW THE BUDGET WORKS, WHAT WE SPEND OUR MONEY ON, AS OPPOSED TO SOLICITING INPUT AS TO HOW WE SHOULD SPEND OUR MONEY.

MY CONCERN WITH THE GROUP SAY A BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, IS THAT YOU TEND TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED AND HAVE CERTAIN PRIORITIES IN THEIR OWN MIND.

AND THEY ATTEMPT TO DIRECT BUDGET DOLLARS TOWARDS THOSE PRIORITIES. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN SAY A SELECT GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS, SAY ECONOMICKISTS AND FINANCEERS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO COULD HELP WITH PROJECTIONS.

IF SOMEONE COULD DO THAT TODAY, THEY ARE CERTAINLY A GENIUS.

I HAVE BEEN STUDYING IT FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, AND I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING. I JUST -- I LWAYS HAVE CONCERNS, YOU TEND TO GET SPECIAL INTEREST PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ON THESE TYPES OF COMMITTEES.

>> I GUESS, ARE WE OPENING IT UP FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION THAT'S

MORE INFORMAL? >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I WOULD SAY PREFER PUBLIC EDUCATION. WHEN WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC WITH AN INCOME TAX INCREASE THAT WAS THE FIRST INTERACTION I HAD WITH MR. GREESON. HE DID A MARVELOUS JOB REACHING OUT TO EVERY POSSIBLE GROUP, INCLUDING 8 YEARS OLDS ON THE STREET CORNER TO GIVE HIS PRESENTATION AS TO WHY -- I WOULD IMAGINE WORTHINGTON RESIDENTS WERE AS WELL INFORMED AS A RESULT OF THAT INCOME TAX INCREASE, IF THEY HAVE BEEN.

I'M NEVER GOING TO WISH THAT ON MR. GREESON AGAIN.

WAY TOO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT, PARTICULARLY WITH HAT WE HAVE GOING ON NOW. IT WAS INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE TO THE POINT F A 63% APPROVAL RATE.

I THINK IT WAS IN LARGE PART, MR. GREESON AND STAFF'S EFFORT GOING AROUND TOWN AND EDUCATING PEOPLE, WE GET MONEY FROM INCOME TAX. I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED. BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I THINK WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL AT THIS POINT.

PARTICULARLY, GOING INTO VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.

SOME PEOPLE IN WORTHINGTON YOU SEE THE INCOME TAX MAY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT A TIME WE'RE IN.

>> M. GREESON: WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU GIVE US LATITUDE TO EXPERIMENT AND WE CAN ADAPT OVER TIME.

YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD THESE DIFFERENT IDEAS.

I THINK THE REALITY IS WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT

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OF BOTH, A LITTLE BIT OF FORECAST AND EDUCATION, AND A LITTLE BIT OF HERE REMAIN STICKING POINTS KIND OF CONVERSATION. MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T CARE WHAT KIND F PAPER WE'RE BUYING BUT THEY ANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE MAJOR DRIVERS AND WHAT ARE THINGS THAT ARE REAL CHOICES. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN -- WE'RE LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION. AND GIVE US A LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIMENT. WHAT IS THE -- LET ME BE FRANK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. IF WE END UP HAVING TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, I THINK THE DATA COULD BE VALUABLE AT SOME JUNCTURE. IT DOES HELP ACCOMPLISH SOME OF WHAT FOLKS DESCRIBED. BUT IT DOES HAVE A COST.

AND IT CAN COST 15 TO 20 GRAND, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU APPROACH IT. MS. STEWART, YOU ARE HE LAST ONE THAT RESEARCHED THAT. IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

I WAS THINKING IT WAS HIGHER THAN THAT.

IN THE 20 -- >> M. GREESON: OH, SHOOT.

>> MAYBE 20 TO 30 GRAND RANGE. BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED RECENTLY.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: I HAVE A CONCERN THAT DOING THAT KIND OF SURVEY WITHOUT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT IT MEANS, WHERE ARE WE AND WHERE ARE REVENUE -- WHERE OUR REVENUES COME FROM.

YOU HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, MY TAXES PAY FOR THAT.

ACTUALLY, THEY DON'T. OR THEY TALK ABOUT, CAN'T YOU GIVE MONEY TO THE SCHOOLS? I THINK THE IDEA IF WE'RE NOT DOING A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE, DOING A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION, AND I KNOW MR. BARTTER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MOVING US IN THAT DIRECTIONS. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT. HAVING A SURVEY ASKING WHAT YOUR PREFERENCES ARE WITHOUT THE CONTEXT OF HERE'S THE RESOURCES WE HAVE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISION, I DON'T THINK IT GIVES US THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT THEY ARE MAKING A GOOD DECISION.

>> M. GREESON: TOO EARLY? >> B. KOWALCZYK: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY TOO EARLY. I THINK THAT JUST PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING, IF YOU ASK THEM WHICH SERVICES YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE. I THINK IT MIGHT DEPEND.

I WOULD FEEL LIKE I WOULD WANT TO KNOW.

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE I ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> M. GREESON: OKAY. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I WOULD AGREE WITH MS. KOWALCZYK. THE SURVEY WOULD NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULLY THOUGHT THROUGH WHEN AND HOW YOU DO IT AND --

>> D. ROBINSON: I WOULD URGE CAUTION THERE.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND, I GUESS TO MR. MEYERS' COMMENTS ABOUT THE ADVISORY GROUP CONCEPT.

I AM ALWAYS FOR EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.

HOWEVER, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CITY FINANCES, THERE ARE PERSONAL -- PERSONS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD HAVE VALUABLE THINGS TO SAY TO US. I KNOW MR. GREESON, YOU STATED THAT AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN YOUR REMARKS.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FLUID CONDITIONS WE'RE NOW LIVING AND OPERATING IN, IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK. BE VERY FRANK UP FRONT SAYING, WE'RE TRYING NEW DIALOGUE WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE CAN'T PROMISE THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE YOUR IDEAS BUT WE KNOW YOU ARE INSIGHTFUL AND MIGHT HAVE IDEAS WE'RE BLIND TO. YOU HAVE MEETINGS, ELICIT FEEDBACK, IF IT HELPS, GREAT. MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR, DO

SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND BETTER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OTHER THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET TOPICS?

>> R. DOROTHY: I AM ALL FOR GETTING MORE EDUCATION OUT TO PEOPLE. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET -- AND I THINK MORE INFLUENCE FOR COUNCILMEMBERS DURING THIS PROCESS TOO.

AND I'M AFRAID OF SUBJECTIGATING OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OTHER PEOPLE. BUT I APPRECIATE GETTING MORE INFORMATION OUT. AND GETTING INFORMATION BACK.

BUT I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE SELF-SELECTED PEOPLE.

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BUT DEFINITELY GETTING MORE INFORMATION OUT IS FOR THE

BETTER. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TOO, IS WE CAN O IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE DONE ONLINE AND ALSO BEING ACCESSED THROUGH OUR WEBSITE. IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T ATTEND A PARTICULAR THING, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE IT RECORDED AND VIDEO OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ALSO GAIN THE INFORMATION. ONE PRESENTATION THAT CAN BE NOT JUST LIMITING TO ONE BUT AT LEAST -- THE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS CAN HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THEM AND COMMENT. OKAY.

OTHER THOUGHTS? >> D. KAY THRESS: MS. MICHAEL?

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I WAS GOING TO ASK, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE -- I SAW SOME PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY.

>> D. KAY THRESS: WE DO HAVE ONE.

I BELIEVE IT IS MR. BATES THAT >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WELCOME

, WELCOME. >> ELLO.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: UNFORTE LY, I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING I KNOW YOUR NAME IS MICHAEL BATES BUT GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MICHAEL BATES 36 -- SIX FIVE SIX ZERO.

I WAS WATCHING THE STREAMING PA PIT PP-- I WANTED TO GO BACK TO MR. MEYERS' COMMENT. I THINK THE BUDGET THING IS ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU CAN DO BOTH. WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOME SELF-SELECTED CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT TO GET COMMUNICATIONS AND EDUCATION GOING.

AND DO STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

THERE IS NOTHING TO PREVENT ONE FROM THE OTHER.

I THINK RACHAEL DOROTHY HAS VERY GOOD POINTS AS DOES MR. GREGE AND THE REST OF THE TEAM -- MR. GREESON.

FANTASTIC JOB ON THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, MR. BARTTER.

BUT THE POINT BEING IS THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO GET SOME DATA THAT CAN BE USED FOR FUTURE DECISION MAKING PLUS GET SOME DIRECT CITIZEN IMPACT BY HAVING SOME KIND OF ADVISORY GROUP OR PARTICIPATION BY CITIZENS IN THE BUDGET.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR

WORKING SO HARD ON THIS. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BATES? WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION ND INPUT. WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN WORKING IN THIS AREA FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST AND DEDICATION TO OUR CITY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THANK YOU.

MS. THRESS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE?

>> D. KAY THRESS: NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

IS THERE ANY LAST COMMENTS REGARDING BUDGET THAT ANYBODY

WANT TO BRIDGE -- BRING UP? >> M. GREESON: LET ME CLOSE IT OUT. WE'LL REFLECT ON YOUR THOUGHTS.

AND COME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO DO SOMETHING THAT STRIKES A BALANCE BETWEEN THE COMMENTS YOU'VE GOT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE THINK THROUGH THAT WITH MS. STEWART AND MR. BARTTER. AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF -- AT LEAST A WEEK OR SO TO FORM AT LEAST SOME MORE COHERENT THOUGHTS THAN WE HAD TONIGHT. WE WERE POSING OPEN-ENDED KIND OF ISSUES FOR A REASON THIS EVENING.

I HOPE YOU GOT THAT. AS OPPOSED TO OUR NORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS. ON THE ISSUE OF STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, I THINK I HEAR THE CONCERN THE EXPENSE MIGHT BE A LITTLE EARLIER OR THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF COMMUNITY DUCATION, THE RESULTS MIGHT BE A LITTLE STILTED.

WHY -- I HINK MAYBE WE COULD EXPLORE HOW WE WOULD STRUCTURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE A -- I DON'T KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT BY NEXT WEEK. BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE BY SEPTEMBER AND HAVE -- WHICH WOULDN'T INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUDGET I SUBMIT BUT AND I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING UNDER THE CHARTER. BUT IT MIGHT INFORM ULTIMATE DECISIONS. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH EXACTLY HOW THAT IGHT WORK AND HAVE AN EXAMPLE FROM

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ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT'S USED ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SCOTT OR ROBYN, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD PATH OR DOES IT PUT US TOO FAR BEHIND IN TERMS OF GETTING STATISTICALLY VALID INFORMATION TO INFORM THE BUDGET PROCESS?

>> HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> I THINK WE CAN EXPLORE MORE OF THAT, MATT, LIKE YOU SAID OR THE NEXT WEEK AND TOUCH BASE WITH COUNCIL NEXT WEEK BEFORE THE AUGUST RECESS. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT TIMING WITH GETTING THAT FEEDBACK, THAT YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS. WHY DON'T WE REFLECT ON IT MORE.

>> M. GREESON: OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: MR. GREESON CAN I GO BACK TO A COMMENTED I MADE EARLIER? GENERALLY AS TO THE SURVEY OR INFORMATION YOU ARE SOLICITING, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY OPTIMISTIC THAT OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE ROSY. I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THE WORST OF WHAT'S OING TO HAPPEN WITH COVID.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY A DOOMS DAY SCENARIO BUT IF YOU HAD TO CUT A CITY SERVICE, WHAT WOULD IT BE? ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT WE MIGHT CUT TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE IMPACTING CORE SERVICES?

>> M. GREESON: LET ME TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME SINCE YOU WENT BACK TO 2010 AND THE INCOME TAX INCREASE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNEW WHEN THE COUNCIL HAD THE DISCUSSION WHETHER WE INCREASE INCOME TAX OR PROPERTY TAXES, ALL OF THE THAT CONVERSATION IN 2009 OR 2010, WHENEVER, I THINK EARLY '10, WE HAD SOME STATISTICALLY VALID INFORMATION THAT WAS PART OF THE WORTHINGTON 360 PROCESS. WHERE THE COMMUNITY RATED THEIR SATISFACTION WITH SERVICES. SO WE KNEW HOW WE WERE PERFORMING. AND THEY RELATED.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED ABOUT RELATIVE PRIORITY OF THOSE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE SERVICES TO CITIZENS. WE HAD A SENSE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE LOW PRIORITY AND LOW PERFORMANCE.

AND HIGH PRIORITY AND HIGH PERFORMANCE.

OR HAD A FOUR QUADRANT ANALYSIS OF KIND OF WHERE WE STOOD.

AND THAT HELPED REINFORCE, I THINK FOR THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, THAT MANY OF UR SERVICES WERE VALUED AND OF A HIGH PRIORITY. AND THAT PEOPLE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WILLING TO PAY.

WE HAD I THINK A BETTER SENSE WHEN WE WERE GOING INTO THAT OF WHERE THE COMMUNITY STOOD IN TERMS OF THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON OUR SERVICES AND WHAT THINGS WERE A PRIORITY.

THAT'S WHAT IT DOES. I MEAN, YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO GET A PERFECT, YOU KNOW, A PERFECT ANALYSIS.

IT GIVES YOU AN OVERALL SENSE. IT ALSO CAN TELL YOU WHERE YOU ARE PERFORMING LOW AND WHAT ARE LESSER PRIORITIES OVER OTHERS.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: FAIR ENOUGH.

THANK YOU. >> I GUESS TO BE BLUNT, DO WE FEEL WE NEED THIS TO MAKE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS -- DECISIONS THIS

YEAR? >> M. GREESON: MAYBE.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WE KNOW THE EXTEND OF THE IMPACTS E'RE GOING TO HAVE. AND CERTAINLY, IF THIS DOWNTURN GOES INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS IN

'21, THEN WE WOULD NEED IT. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK NEXT YEAR IS THE CRITICAL YEAR. I THINK WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS YEAR. BUT NEXT YEAR...

>> M. GREESON: EVERY BUDGET LAYS THE GROUND WORK FOR THE NEXT ONE. AND THAT'S THE WAY, I THINK, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ARE BUDGETING IN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS NOW IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL FALL THAT DON'T -- THAT HELP US PREPARE US FOR DIFFERENT

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SCENARIOS IN 2021. BOTH WITH PRUDENT FISCAL ACTIONS AS WELL AS MAYBE DEVELOPMENT OF INFORMATION.

MS. STEWART? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SURVEY INFORMATION, PARTICULARLY, STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY INFORMATION AS BEING BENEFICIAL IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO CUT THE SERVICES WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE. IF WE ARE IN THE MODE OF JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO ADD BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, IT MAY BE MORE CHALLENGING BUT WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT THE SURVEY INFORMATION. BUT IF WE GET TO WHERE WE HAVE TO REDUCE AND CUT CERTAIN SERVICES, I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION OF IS COUNCIL PREPARED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS YOURSELVES? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE SOME STATISTICALLY VALID INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD BE-- THEY MAY NOT BE HAPPY TO GIVE US BUT WHAT THEY WOULD

MISS THE LEAST. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL HAVE DEEPER BACKGROUND O COME UP WITH A CONCLUSION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A GOOD OR BAD THING. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE INPUT AND HAVING SOMETHING DEEPER TO LOOK AT NEXT WEEK.

>> M. GREESON: ALWAYS WELL SAID BY MS. STEWART, BY THE WAY.

>> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I THINK THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT WE'RE QUITE THERE YET.

THAT WE SEE TO CUT THOSE CORE SERVICES.

-- WE HAVE TO -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, WE MAY COME O THE POINT. WHAT KIND OF LEAD TIME DO WE NEED IF FACED IN THE FUTURE WITH MAKING THOSE DECISIONS? OR ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT I NEED TO AKE THOSE DECISIONS IN THIS BUDGET? THAT'S THE INFORMATION I NEED.

HOW CLOSE TO CRITICAL ARE WE? >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WELL, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ITEM FOR THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? IF NOT, LET'S MOVE TO THE COVID-19 UPDATE.

>> M. GREESON: LET ME -- BONNIE, PRESIDENT MICHAEL, THANKS TO THE COUNCIL FOR THIS FAIRLY FREE WHEELING BUT BENEFICIAL CONVERSATION. I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE THINKING OUTLOUD HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE IT AND I THINK IT'S PRUDENT AND GOOD TO DO EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

WE DON'T, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COVID-19 CONVERSATION RECENTLY WITH THE MASK ORDINANCE. YOU HEARD FROM DR. ROBERTS AND ALL OF THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO ENDEAVOR TO TRY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE DISEASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER ON THE AGENDA IN THE EVENT WE NEED TO DO ADDRESS ANYTHING.

AT THIS 61 -- MEETING, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO.

I DO WANTED TO FORECAST ONE THING THAT WE MAY BRING TO YOU AS A DISCUSSION ITEM NEXT WEEK. OUR WORTHINGTON REBOOT TEAM, WHICH IS BEING LED BY MR. MCCORKLE AND INVOLVES THE NOT FOR PROFIT PARTNERS AS WELL AS SOME BUSINESS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. HAS BEEN EVALUATING SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF SOME OF THE OUR BUSINESSES AND TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER A BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. WE MAY BRIDGE TO YOU, THINKING -- BRING TO YOU, WHETHER IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO REDIRECT SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES WE HAVE UNSPENT THIS YEAR AT THIS POINT, TOWARDS A SMALL GRANT PROGRAM AIMED AT HELPING PARTICULARLY SOME OF OUR MORE VULNERABLE SMALL BUSINESSES. THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM UTILIZATION OF THE CARES ACT DOLLARS.

WHICH I'M GOING TO ASK MR. BARTTER TO TOUCH ON REAL

QUICKLY. >> MR. BARTTER:SURE, THANK YOU MR. GREESON. LAST MONDAY COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE CARES ACT FUNDING, I SUBMITTED ON TUESDAY, BOTH THE OBM AND COUNTY AUDITOR WAS CONFIRMED RECEIVED.

AND ACCEPTED TO HAVE ALL OF THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS.

THEY SENTS THOSE FUNDS FOR DISTRIBUTION, WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING THEM SOMETIME THIS WEEK.

WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FROM THE TREASURY, FURTHER

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CONFIRMING THAT FIRST RESPONDER PAYROLL COULD BE AN ELIGIBLE

[5.C.I. Update on Coronavirus/COVID-19]

EXPENSE AGAINST CARES ACT FUNDS. WE CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT, THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE FUNDING BE UTILIZED TO OFFSET FIRST RESPONDING PAYROLL. AND THEN WE WOULD SET UP, IF COUNCIL SO DESIRES OR AS WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT WEEK, ANY BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM UTILIZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS THAT WOULDN'T BE TIED TO BEING A FEDERAL SUB AWARD OF THE CARES ACT DOLLARS AND THE COMPLIANCE THAT GOES WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY.

ANY OTHER -- MR. GREESON, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE COVID-19?

>> M. GREESON: NO. NOT ON COVID-19.

WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, I'LL HAVE A QUICK OTHER UPDATE.

>> D. ROBINSON: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION RELATED TO COVID.

THANK YOU. MR. GREESON, IT'S BEEN ROUGHLY A WEEK SINCE WE IMPLEMENTED THE MASK ORDINANCE.

ANY REPORTS OR ANECDOTES YOU COULD PROVIDE IN TERMS OF

IMPLEMENTATION AND SO FORTH? >> M. GREESON: NO.

WE HAVE REFERRED A COUPLE OF BUSINESS COMPLAINTS TO COLUMBUS PUBLIC HEALTH FOR SANITARIANS TO FOLLOW-UP ON.

AND DON'T HAVE ANY, I THINK, NEGATIVE REPORTS IN THAT REGARD.

MR. LINDSEY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHETHER THE GOVERNOR'S ACTIONS RESULTED IN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR ORDINANCE.

AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTATION. MR. LINDSEY?

>> MR. LINDSEY: MR. GREESON, THANK YOU.

PRESIDENT MICHAEL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE PROBABLY EASIEST AND MOST OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED, NOT TECHNICALLY THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER, BUT OUT OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EALTH, IS THAT THEIR AGE FOR CHILDREN IS 10, WHEREAS OURS WAS 6. AND SO, YOU AVE A QUESTION IF SOMEBODY IS 8 AND NOT WEARING A MASK, ARE THEY IN VIOLATION OF OUR ORDINANCE? OR IS THAT A ATTER OF HOME RULE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY CLEAR GAP, I HAVEN'T SPENT MUCH TIME, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, EVALUATING WHETHER WE WOULD OR WOULDN'T PARTICULARLY BECAUSE PRIMARY WOULD BE AGAINST BUSINESS.

AND WARNINGS COME FIRST BEFORE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS POINT.

I DO OWE COUNCIL REVISIONS. WE'LL BE BACK ON THE TOPIC OF MASKS NEXT MONDAY NIGHT. I WILL TRY TO TOUCH ON THAT ISSUE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT WITH MORE CLARITY NEXT WEEK.

>> M. GREESON: THANK YOU. >> B. KOWALCZYK: MR. LINDSEY, I HAD A QUESTION. I NOTICED ANOTHER CONFLICT.

WHERE THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS DO MORE IN TERMS OF RELIGIOUS ENTITIES. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANN FEEDBACK OURS WAS NOT SUFFICIENT FROM RESIDENTS.

GURGES CURIOUS ON YOUR INSIGHT ON THAT?

-- JUST -- >> MR. LINDSEY: I HAVEN'T DRILLED DOWN THE RESEARCH IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF COMFORT ND ENFORCEMENT AND HOW BEST TO ADDRESS IT.

IT RELATES BACK TO THE QUESTION OF IS THERE A VALID RULE ISSUE AS WE GET DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO, OME RULE IN A GENERAL WAY AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE AND MOST OF COUNCIL HEARD BEFORE, IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER STATE LAW PERMITS OR PROHIBITS SOMETHING. IT'S A QUESTION OF THE ALSO THE UNIFORMITY OF THE APPLICATION. I HAVE NOT SEEN ON THE LISTSERV OF OHIO MUNICIPAL LAWYERS THE QUESTION IS TO WHETHER AN ORDER THAT IS INTENDED TO ONLY ADDRESS INITIALLY SEVEN BUT LATER EXPANDED TO BE 12 COUNTIES, WOULD MEET THE UNIFORMITY TEST FOR PURPOSES OF HOME RULE ANALYSIS.

THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES I HAVE TO LOOK AT HERE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER MORE CORRECTLY WHETHER OR

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NOT I THINK WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A DESIRE TO LEAVE OURS IN PLACE IF WE FEEL THE STATE ORDERS ARE SUFFICIENT, THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE ORDERS IS BY THE LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY. IT WOULD ONCE AGAIN BE COLUMBUS PUBLIC HEALTH TASKED WITH ENFORCING THE STATE ORDER AS WELL OUR ORDER. ON MY LIST OF THOUGHTS HOW TO ADDRESS THIS, ONE WAS TO CONTACT COLUMBUS PUBLIC HEALTH AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD OR WOULDN'T.

MY SENSE IS THE COUNCIL FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADOPT THE MASK ORDINANCE IN THE TIMEFRAME WE DID.

IN LARGE PART TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE WE BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO BE WEARING MASKS REGARDLESS OF THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT OF THE BENEFITS OF MASKS PROTECTING OTHERS. MY BELIEF IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT IN PLACE EVEN IF IT COULD ONLY BE ENFORCED TO THE LEVEL OF THE STATE ORDER. IF THERE ARE ANY THOUGHTS, REFLECTIONS ABOUT THAT THAT POINT ME IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, PLEASE SHARE. OTHERWISE THAT WILL BE MY

INTENT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WILL BRING UP AGAIN WITH THOUGHTS YOU RECEIVED

AT THE NEXT MEETING? >> MR. LINDSEY: CORRECT.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. GREAT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHT OR ANYTHING ELSE PEOPLE WANT TO SHARE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COVID-19 UPDATE.

AND THE MATERIALS WE'LL BE GETTING NEXT WEEK.

MR. GREESON, ANOTHER UPDATE YOU WANT TO GIVE?

>> M. GREESON: A HEADS UP. YOU WILL BE CONTACTED PROBABLY BY MS. TREGO, MS. WITH MS. THRESS' ASSISTANCE, LOOKING FOR SEVERAL HOURS OF YOUR TIME IN AUGUST. WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL TODAY WITH THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY KIRWIN STUDY FOR RACE AND ETHNICITY. WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT WHERE TO START IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP, TRAINING ON OR FOUNDATIONAL TRAINING I SHOULD SAY, ON RACIAL EQUITY, IMPLICIT BIAS, AND KIND OF HOW POLICY OR PUBLIC POLICY CAN CREATE DISPARATE OUTCOMES. THEY RECOMMENDED ONE OF THEIR TRAININGS AS A BEGINNING POINT IN OUR JOURNEY.

WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THREE HOURS.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE START WITH COUNCIL AND SENIOR LEADERSHIP, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR'S TEAM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING DATES THAT WOULD WORK FOR BOTH CIRWIN AND YOU ALL AND US. KIRWIN.

AND THEY WILL SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.

AS WE GET THAT MORE INFORMATION AND MORE DETAILS FROM THEM, I WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE. BUT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD

CONVERSATION. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ARE WE LOOKING AT SOMETHING VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON?

>> M. GREESON: NO, I THINK THEY ARE ADEPT AT OFFERING IN VIRTUAL FORMAT . IN FACT, I THINK THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BY THE UNIVERSITY AT THIS POINT.

WHILE THERE IS, WHILE WE COULD ACCOMMODATE SOME NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING SOCIAL DISTANCING AND HAVING THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY IN A ROOM FOR US TO BE SOME OF US TO BE IN A ROOM, I THINK IN A SAFE SOCIAL DISTANCING WAY, THE TRAINERS WILL BE VIRTUAL.

AND SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL, SO THE NUMBERS WOULD BE LIMITED. THAT'S WHY WE WOULD START WITH SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP BECAUSE OF THERE IS

[6. Reports of Council Members]

KIND OF AN IDEAL NUMBER OF PARTICIPATE -- PARTICIPANTS

GIVEN THE VIRTUAL FORMAT. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE EXCITED YOU ARE MOVING ORWARD IN THE DIRECTION. I HINK WE COULD ALL USE THE

TRAINING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: ANYBODY , ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH?

>> B. KOWALCZYK: THANK YOU FOR PURSUING THAT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE'RE LEARN A LOT.

>> M. GREESON: YEAH. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YEAH.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? IF NOT, I'M GOING MOVE ONTO REPORT OF COUNCILMEMBERS.

MR. BUCHER? >> P. BUCHER: NOTHING, THANK

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>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MS. KOW ALCZYK.

>> B. KOWALCZYK: ONE NEAT THING. THE PARTNERSHIP DID PUT OUT THOSE REALLY COOL BANDANNAS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS ON THEM FOR SALE THAT YOU CAN WEAR IN OLD WORTHINGTON.

IT'S REALLY COOL. AND I THINK SOME OF THE SHOPS HAVE THEM. BUT YOU CAN ORDER THEM FROM THE PARTNERSHIP FROM THE WEBSITE, I THINK THEY HAVE SOME LEFT.

I THINK IT WAS A REALLY NEAT IDEA.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: WONDER. I ACTUALLY SAW THEM IN DOWNTOWN

WORTHINGTON MYSELF. >> B. KOWALCZYK: COOL.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: YEAH. MR. SMITH?

>> D. SMITH: NO. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. MEY

ERS. >> PRO TEM S. MYERS: I HAVE NOTHING TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: OKAY. MS. DOROTHY?

>> R. DOROTHY: I HAVE NOTHING. >> PRESIDENT B. MICHAEL: MR. ROB

INSON? >> D. ROBINSON: THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE WE CAN SPEAK TO THE WHOLE OF COUNCIL TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT CONTAINING SEVERAL PROPOSALS FOR COUNCIL.

RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT'S MY HOPE THAT I CAN SPEAK WITH EACH OF YOU THIS WEEK. AND LET ME MAKE MY CASE WITH YOU. AS TO WHY I THINK THEY ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR US TO ADDRESS IN A TIMELY MANNER, HEAR YOUR IDEAS. IF THERE IS A SUFFICIENT FAVORABLE REACTION, I WOULD URGE US TO CONSIDER DISCUSSING THESE MATTERS NEXT WEEK WITH THE IDEA OF INSTIGATING SOME FORM OF ACTION THAT WE COULD UNDERTAKE NOW AND DURING THE LONG AUGUST RECESS. I THINK IT'S ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS LONG THIS YEAR. I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY DESIRABLE FOR US TO DEMONSTRATE ACTION NOW EYOND THE RESOLUTION WE HAVE PASSED. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR FROM US AS WELL AS THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROTESTING AND SEEKING SOME KIND OF ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO THANK YOU FOR CHECKING OUT MY PROPOSALS.

AND HOPEFULLY, SHARING YOUR

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